>2014
>not using a Micro ATX or Mini ITX build
Whats your excuse?
>>45263056
wanting multiple pci cards without causing throttling due to temps
I'm not a poorfag living out of a grocery cart.
I'm not a huge fucking faggot.
>>45263060
this is basically the only limitation. How hot could a single 970 get though?
>multiple hard drives
>2 SSD's
>FX-9590
>R9 290x
>All watercooled
>Video and photo editing
>Not a poorfag
Pretending like your buyers remorse for getting a Micro ATX/Mini iTX build makes you superior in the face of true computers
I got a micro atx, it fucking sucks
Harder to work with, can't put in more ram because of my heatsink, can't use a second GPU because it would cover up all the sata ports
>>45263056
I was 12 years old. Having my cousins birthday party at Mc Donalds. I went to the potty. There where Ronald grab me, he took me to maintenance room. He said there will be a special dessert but not for everyone, it was limited. I didn't believe him, my parents always warned me about strangers but he took me anyways. While my friends were having fun outside, he raped me 4 times in the maintenance closet. He fed me with his sperm, he said it was "mcsemen". He made me swallow all of it. When he was done I was crying, couldn't sit on my ass for weeks. My parents didn't believe me a clown raped me. I never go to Mc Donalds, even now. I only eat from Burger King.
>>
my excuse
>>45263056
I'm already a mini-ITX master race.
More than 1 GPU is for retards.
mini-ITX boards nowadays comes with wifi and even sound card - see Asus Maximus Impact VII.
>>45263060
>>45263079
>pretending need more than 2 slots max
>pretending that by having more that you are some cyberpunk hacker from your animes
>>45263133
And far worse VRMs.
>>45263133
>More than 1 GPU is for retards
So I guess that people who do things like video editing or multi-monitor gaming are retards?
You're a turboshit/10
>>45263171
>goes through BST
>implying that the neets here doing anything like that
>>45263188
I do that.
Please try not to shortbus this hard.
>>45263087
Depends on how hard you torture the poor thing, along with if you're not retarded with your cooling
>built mitx rig
>fuck I need a nas now
>better buy a USB hub because 4 is literally nothing
>goddamn where do I put my sound card
it's pretty shit after the novelty wears off. good form factor as a general shitbox.
too bad most people buy it because they can fill it up without spending much money, more of a self limitation.
>>45263406
>sound card
Is it 2004 again?
Get a DAC+Amp cunt
>>45263406
>fuck I need a nas now
How many Hdds do you need pic related
>better buy a USB hub because 4 is literally nothing
My mobo has 6 usbs on the back and 2 on the case.
I never need to use them all at the same time.
>sound card
Unless your job is music you don't need it
You just got a shitty build
>>45263056
Usually they are more expensive than regular ATX boards for the same feature set if they don't gimp features that is.
>>45263451
my sound card is a dac+amp retard
do you mean external moron?
>>45263468
the prodigy is bigger than most matx cases. fuck off with your retarded shit of going ssf with a fuck huge case.
>>45263451
>ASIO
Obviously not someone who understands that the point of building a PC is to have a computer that is built to your needs
That buyer's remorse
>>45263468
Currently have 3 Seagate Constellations, one WD Enterprise, Crucial M500 SSD, Sandisk Extreme SSD, and I'm still somehow in need of more storage thanks to being a photographer/videographer
Stop being so stupid thinking that your unmotivated life that leads you to only needing a basic pleb machine is all that other people need.
>>45263520
>photographer/videographer
Then you are just stupid if you got a mITX build.
>>45263636
>you are just stupid if you got a mITX build
sounds about right in general
I do, though.
>>45263056
I have a supermicro dual xeon setup
no exuses.
Six SATA devices and a PCI sound card.
SLI Titans
>>45263652
is that cooler made out of marzipan?
>>45264535
makes me think of kaneda's bike
i like it
>>45263652
>Assrock
>>45264670
>hating asrock
>probably uses gaymen shit
I use a Gryphon Z87, so I do use mATX.
>>45264683
Assrock is very low quality shit, and usually have a very short lifespan.
I would only ever use them for hobo-tier builds.
>>45264692
asrock's better than asus these days
keep up gramps
>>45264692
see >>45264697
also In my three builds so far two of them were asrock, not a SINGLE issue. Achkchualley, I accidentally one pin on the cpu socket and by gently placing it back it worked again with another CPU. And the one I'm using now works flawlessy.
Your shitty memes are not accepted here, fuck off
I need expansion cards.
/thread.
2 for GPU.
1 for a gap
1 for a 10 bit Quadro.
1 for primary ethernet
1 for secondary ethernet
1 for serial card
1 for external sata cards.
aka an actual workstation. Not everyone builds their pc for MUH GAMES.
>>45264707
Well, I have opposite and equally as invalid anecdotal evidence.
>>45263073
>He thinks itx is for poor people
LOL point & laugh everyone
Now that we're discussing Mini ATX, can we discuss cases for Mini ATX ? right now I own a Asrock mini atx mobo but it is inside a full case. I want something smaller
>>45264697
>mfw ausrock IS Asus
Muh expansion slots
Muh sata ports
>>45263171
I love it when anons lie and justify there costs by bullshitting what they actually do with their hardware.
>>45263498
all soundcards are dac's retard.
>>45263056
I only use the smallest form factor because of inherent lag from larger form factors
>muh HAF 912
I have a nostalgiastation that's a microATX
thinking about getting a slim case with a low profile GPU
The only reason I will continue to use ATX is because it has more room for PCI and 5.25" devices.
>>45263056
I use a Mini-ITX in my HTPC. Works great.
Will not use anything smaller than ATX in my desktop though. Midget boards suck.
>but mommmmmmmmmmm I need a full tower
There is no excuse
>>45264779
It's not and hasn't been for many years now. Not since Asus spun off Pegatron.
>>45263056
Because I'm into women
Mini ATx are shit mini Itx are ok. If you're totally and wholly gay
>>45264535
>intel Xeon
>GT970
It's like a Porshe with an hybrid motor...
>>45264940
That xeon isn't particularly powerful anyway.
>>45264535
That XEON as far as multithreading goes isn't any better than an fx 8350. If its the single core performance you're after you should get an i5 4690k. It says that your Xeon doesn't even suport FMA instruction sets? At least not fma3 or fma4
>>45264697
HAHAHA HAHAHA ASUS vrms quality wipe the floor with asrock
Because I still can do everything with my dual xeon E-ATX from 2007. fucking reks stock 8350s
matx is king
The ATX was on sale
>>45263056
need more pci lanes
2 for 295x2
1 for quadro
1 for future expansions
>>45263520
photog here dat 12tb isn't even enough for me.
>>45263109
>He actually bought an FX-9590
>>45263122
Sounds like a you bought a shitty board and now blame it on mATX.
>>45263109
>multiple hard drives
Check
>2 SSD's
Check
>FX-9590
Got an i7
>R9 290x
Geforce 980
>All watercooled
not needed
>Video and photo editing
check
Sounds like my ITX build can do the same shit as yours.
>not a poorfag
>pretending that ITX is cheap
>>45264940
>>45264985
Look at these comments.
You stupid fucks.
Why in the holy name of hell whould I upgrade? Theres litterally nothing that requires more cpu power. Mind you, this fucker can be oc'd as well.. (1.gen oc by bclk, not multi only)
I run bf4 with 100+ fps on ultra. no joke.
>>45264747
>1 for primary ethernet
>1 for secondary ethernet
Does your mainboard not come with an Ethernet port?
>>45264768
What kinda case you're looking for? I've got the Silverstone Sg-10 and it's pretty nice. Space for 6 hard drives, full sized graphics card and big CPU cooler. Kinda pricey though and can only fit slim DVD drives.
>>45263652
epic vape dude did u get that out of the dictionary
>>45265471
>i5
kek enjoy having to upgrade in 5 years time
>>45265560
More like 5months time.
>>45265560
That's actually pretty reasonable.
>>45263056
Because I built my PC in 2008 and have not needed to change the motherboard
I really like their cases, but I already had some parts for a normal ATX so I went with that for my current build.
>>45265471
What kind of atx is that
Or is it a mini itx
>>45263109
>9590
>220w tdp
Oh good god, someone actually bought it?
Shitposting in an epic prodigy bread.
>>45265721
ITX
>>45263056
>Micro ATX or Mini ITX
Anyone else here use a BTX motherboard about 10 years ago?
They were so much better than ATX for airflow. I'm still pissed that intel killed them off.
>>45264940
Uhhh, yeah? You mean like the Porsche 918, which is the fastest road legal car that Porsche has ever made? You mean that kind of hybrid?
Dumbass.
I have an excess of space at my home, and ATX is cheaper. Since I have the space and don't move my fuckung desktop around, I went ATX.
But I am.
>>45265424
Something I can slide on a side under my bed
>>45265769
some really nice lookin guts for once, not autism clean, and not gaymen rice either even with the leds. good job.
>>45265895
>diagonal socket
>a good idea
ayy
>>45266143
>get a shitty ATX because too hipster for tower
>half the system is on the floor or supported by paper tissues
kek, might just as well not have a case at all and trip over your hardware
>>45265560
something like a 4790 isn't going to be meaningfully more relevant than a 4690 in 5 years' time.
a -K will, however - as long as it OCs well
>>45266143
Nigga you need to get a proper case for that shit.
Embarrassing.
>>45266290
>Thinks the HSF is mounted diagonally on a BTX motherboard because of the diagonal socket
underage ban please
>>45263056
I had a full atx before micro atx became a popular thing and I'm still using it.
I'll do a micro atx build when I need to upgrade
Also I need the 2 slots my gpu takes up plus one for wifi
>>45266347
>diagonal alignment of heatpipes over a square IHS and a rectangular chip carrier
>socket on edge of board so large dual-tower heatsinks clash against stuff
nobody cares about your ancient, inferior motherboard layout anon, the rest of the world has moved on, accept it
>>45266406
should probably clarify that by ancient I mean "dead for a long time", not "really old", obviously BTX is newer than AT/X
>>45263087
unless you have the card against a solid panel it should be fine, most mitx cases have some sort of vent there
Oh but I plan to!
>>45263056
Swore by mATX for years, but finally needed a full tower with room for drives, extra GPU and the tower under the desk with access to USB really suits my needs.
Yes, mATX can do CF/SLI but mobo's with a PCI lane space and cases with 5 slots are rare and I don't really have space on my desk for a PC due to multi monitors.
>>45263056
But I am.
>>45266659
My wet dream is a micro ITX build with dual 980s (making sure proper air circ), a big SSD (no HDD, so portable-ish), a nice 80+ gold, sound card, and Broadwell, in a brushed case if possible (as minimal as possible). Also a liquid CPU cooler if the radiator fits.
Basically, as much power and luxury condensed into as small a package as possible.
>>45263109
>actually buying a FX-9590
>>45266749
I don't even need the space but everything about the build i posted makes me want to build one myself.
>>45265364
>Implying every mATX is different and they're not all the same size
>Implying EATX and ATX are shit tier
>mATX can't fit more than bare minimum because small as fuck
>thread
>>45266783
Yeah, it's not about the space, it's about the aesthetics. Kind of like 60% mechs.
Also lel @ filename.
>>45266744
nice one
>>45266659
Too big. Might as well get an SG09/SG10
>>45266749
>dual GPUs
>ITX mobo
Does your dream include a PCI double adapter?
also...
>SSD for light weight
>yet ads water cooling
dude
My only regret with my mATX build is that I bought a cheap non-modular PSU (Corsair VS 650)
Fucking cables stuffed in everywhere
>>45266824
Those aren't nearly as aesthetically pleasing >>45266805
I have a set of box shelves similar to these and I'm hoping to store it in them, though they would probably restrict airflow quite a bit
>>45263087
>nvidia
hotter than the surface of the sun
>>45266856
I have a seasonic g semi in my pcpp atm but will probably get a silverstone strider fully modular and buy a set of flat cables and sleeve them myself or already sleeved ones.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812162043&nm_mc=KNC-GoogleAdwords-PC&cm_mmc=KNC-GoogleAdwords-PC-_-pla-_-SATA+%2f+eSATA+Cables-_-N82E16812162043&gclid=Cj0KEQiA1qajBRC_6MO49cqDxbYBEiQAiCl5_CY4FYtLW9arHXU1M1HcW5ACcPpxFPjQP7hdzNORCvcaAvxi8P8HAQ
Not sure if these are long enough for the 250d
>>45266837
>Double adapter
I've found mITX mobos that would fit the build I described. It's hard but they exist. Finding a case that fits it is harder.
>Avoid mechanical drive adds portability because weight
No, main reason for SSD portability-wise is not weight but the fact that they're less fragile than rotating drives.
>>45266863
I have a similar thing going with my PS3 (in a small vertical space in my table's side), and I had to figure out a way to vent it unobstructed (it now faces outward with the vent; cables-out). Sadly, storing computers in any sort of enclosed space absolutely destroys air circ, and overheats it like a motherfucker.
>>45265057
Bitfenix's uATX is a joke. Mini ITX is very good on the other side.
I'm so sorry for you if you got the former.
>>45266919
mITX has only one PCI slot. You are confusing it with mATX
>>45267379
The one he posted is the ITX though. Notice the vent holes for the GPU on the side.
>tfw no mITX AM3+
Life has no purpose.
>>45263109
And yet I have
>1 SSD and 2x3TB HDD
>GTX 750 Ti
>FX-8350
>16GB RAM
>and a watercooler mount
in a mATX case. I could fit an R9 290x in here too if I rearranged the drives, removed the SSD bays, and got a 3.5" sled for my SSD.
>>45263056
But I am using one anon. On the other hand, there is a severe lack of case options on this size that aren't cheap OEM tier or twice as expensive than similar ATX cases. There is a fuckton of mATX boards with 6 sata ports, and almost no case that allow you to use that.
>>45263056
the G3258 and ATX board was $99 at microcenter and the mATX one would have been $30 more.
I want a giant overkilly gaymer box though.
>>45269586
What case is thay
![IMG_20141121_192743[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/npeWUo6.jpg "IMG_20141121_192743[1].jpg")
>>45269740
Fractal Design Arc Mini R2.
>>45263125
>>45266919
I've had simillar issue while putting my old PC (about 5 years ago) into a special pc "slot" in my desk.
It really did look nice and didn't really overheat too much during the winter. But then the GTX 260 i had in it somehow went ballistic and went up 130C,meleted the mobo,and set the table on fire.
As much as i've bought a new table with enough space to keep the pc rather chill, i keep a small fire extinguisher in the living room near me just in case.
weird fact is that somehow my HDD,RAM,and processor were somehow alive after all of that.
I'd make a mini-itx build if all the cases weren't butt ugly boxes
>>45269912
Care to show more pictures of your desk?
Did you make that bracket or did your desk come with it?
>>45263109
>FX-9590
I'm using a mini for my new gaming PC
http://pcpartpicker.com/user/jqsk/saved/GQf2FT
>>45267379
what's wrong with the matx Prodigy other than getting the airflow right
>>45263109
I am an AMD fag to the core and I think the 9590 is a crime against nature. A 220W processor is wasteful.
>>45263056
2 CPU sockets...
>>45263056
Too lazy to update muh Sandy Bridge ATX build, all works flawlessy.
>>45270223
2h later... sure. I made it ages ago in Sketchup and sent to a company to make it.
That bracket came with it, was made to fit my old case, it just happened to be the perfect size for this case too.
It is 2m wide, 65 cm deep and 75cm tall. There is a space behind to tuck all the wires and a small space for the amplifier/sub.
>>45263056
Because fuck you
>>45263056
Micro-ITX motherboards have been too temperamental from my experience and I prefer to have more expansion options for future upgrades.
I have only had a few Micro-ATX motherboards which were actually reliable and did work well for me, but they often fell short on features not only on the hardware, but also the BIOS too.
Normal ATX motherboards have worked better for me in terms of reliability, features and general performance so I won't be down sizing anytime soon.
As for recent upgrade I went with a Gigabyte Z97 G1.Sniper and Intel i7-4790K which went well with my other hardware and was a good upgrade from my Gigabye Z68XP-UD3P and Intel i7-2700K.
Processing performance isn't much better, but the general connectivity (USB and SATA 3) and sound is much better.
>>45272161
grats, I think these ehatsinks are fking hard to setup, I wouldn't do 2
>>45263056
EATX, because fuck you.
>>45272286
The mobo had built in backing plates so installing it was not too hard, but god they are worth it.
Thinking about getting an m.2 so I can remove all the sata/power cables. No idea what to pick though.
>>45272161
...did you really secure that fan to the ram with a rubberband?
>>45272432
If your mobo supports PCIe M.2 then just wait for the new ADATA ones that should have 10Gb/s+.
Couldn't remember the exact number but it's pretty high.
>>45264692
If only I knew you, I would electrocute you in real life, and pretend it was a careless, freak accident, while laughing at your funeral.
>>45272432
>green drive
>>45266040
Cry harder, I enjoy it.
You still have a lopsided-as-fuck piece of shit pc.
>>45263056
I have five expansion cards:
1) Wlan
2) bluetooth
3) video capture
4) GTX 750ti
5) Sound Blaster Audigy 2 sound card w/ firewire port
>>45266347
hahahaha lol lal kek btx fucking oldsmellyfaggot
>>45263109
when a french style revolution happens in your country, I will think of you, hoping it is you, every time I see someones entrails hanging below them from a high balcony.
>not having an NCASE M1
>>45265769
Ugliest case to ever exist.
>>45266798
I expected no better from a tripfag.
>>45272343
>spending $400 on a "gaming" motherboard
you are the very definition of a good goy
I was considering compressing my build into a small portable build as my Christmas gift to myself. My question is, assuming you shutdown the PC properly, turn off the power supply, and wait a minute, is it still safe to frequently move a PC around? For some weird reason my instincts are telling me it'll reduce the lifespan of my PC or fry it or something.
Also, anyone with a EVGA Hard-on build? It's so pretty and compact, but if I'm gonna get rid of my water-cooling and buy a new mobo I'd like to hear some recommendations.
>>45275897
>Hadron Air
the power supply is loud as fuck
get an NCASE M1
>>45263056
>not using HTX
Small boards for small guys..
>>45275965
Thanks, all I needed to hear to pass on that shit. My stupid 780Ti already gives me coil whine with my HX850. Could be my assrock mobo causing it as well.
Any input on the first part though? If it's dangerous to move a PC say, once a week, I'd rather just wait and make an entirely seperate mini-PC somewhere down the line.
>>45263056
You forgot about the idiots spending 500$+ on an overheating graphics card that will be deprecated next year.
Mini ITX master race for low-tier.
Micro ATX master race for mid-tier.
>>45275990
It isn't a problem. Think of laptops - they get moved around all the time with no issues.
The only thing you might have to worry about is a big tower heatsink or big video card - if these are not well secured and you drop your case there are some pretty big cantilever forces there
>>45275897
>is it still safe to frequently move a PC around?
If everything is secured properly, it shouldn't be an issue.
Your biggest worry is probably the graphics card, which can exert a lot of torque on the mobo if the case is given rough treatment. Consider getting a bracket or something to secure the cantilever end in place.
Also, get yourself a set of geargrips. Thank me later.
>>45264784
Ive had three screens sice the 570s came out and I bought 2.
Need to replace them now and waiting for the 980ti.
The real question is with one display port can I get away with one card for awhile?
My 570s wont go into surround anymore I think they on their last legs.
Is there a cheap, small, semi portable case for micro atx? I have an existing micro atx build I want to throw in a smaller, console-like case just as an arcade/emulator box. I kinda like cube shaped cases.. I looked at the Node 804 and it seems a little too big. Actually, if anyone owns the Node 804 I'd appreciate any pics with stuff to scale next to it.
>>45276277
Silverstone SG09/10
>>45263056
ITX board is like 100 bucks for AMD
>>45275965
Hadron Air's PSU is very silent actually. All you need is to lubricate the fan. Takes 30 seconds to do.
I am using a micro atx motherboard, op
i prefer features over looks
>>>/v/
>>45277407
I prefer looks over functionality.
>>>/fa/
>>45263056
ive got six drives and 4 PCI-E cards, its simply not enough for me
>>45263140
enjoy your realtek and lack of virtualisation options
My excuse is that I'm leaving the country next year, so I'm replacing my desktop with a laptop.
But my next desktop build will definitely be mATX.
>>45263652
what cooler/cpu? is it passive?
>>45263056
Using B85m-G with an i5 4690.
Its great
is there a micro atx/mini itx board out there with thunderbolt ports?
>>45275761
Can you use full sized video cards with that?
>>45275618
Is there a problem kind sir?
>>45281164
what case are you using if I may ask?
Is the NCASE M1 the only decent mITX case?
>>45265769
>has an EK watercooler
>setup looks like thermtake bigwater
your setup looks bad man
>>45275761
went to the website but it's not for sale
So i don't have to make my own M-ATX thread:
Hey, /g/ about 16 months or so ago I built a new desktop, however, being younger and more retarded I bought a fuck huge NZXT case. Now the case is great and all that however I have moved cities since and my PC has been gathering dust in my parents house for 4 months.
Now my problem is that I moved into uni halls of residence (inb4 underage, im 24 and a "mature" student) so my room is tiny, and I'm wanting to bring my PC with me when I go back after xmas. But I don't want to transport my huge case (with everything in it) for fear of crushing myself and taking up loads of room so I'm wanting to (down/up)grade to a Micro ATX case but I have some questions:
According to PCpart picker http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/8scJTW (my current build, I have everything from my current desktop there plus a M-ATX motherboard and case) there are no clashes with parts, is this site 100% accurate?
And when i get my new motherboard will I need to re-install windows due to their being a different bios? right?
Also hows the airflow + temps on the prodigy?
Sorry for the long post, but it's vital I don't fuck up.
>>45263056
Some people need more than 2 pci devices anon, that's why.
Raid card, gpu, network links, audio, etc.
Life isnt all just a gpu and cpu for everyone.
>>45263056
mITX is fine, mATX is retarded--not case choices out there to commit to a weird standard meant for OEM shit.
>Do a mATX build
>Get a Corsair 350D
>Do a cheap server build later
>Realize my mATX case was nearly as big as my ATX
>>45263451
>get placebo
Nice advice retard
