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Is it just me or is the demand for CPU power by games currently in relative stagnation? I'm due to for a new build soon but my 2500K still handles things fine, and it's not even overclocked yet. Feels like the thing could go for another three and a half years.
>>45236070
There are a few games (Arma 3 and Kerbal Space Program come to mind) that are CPU intensive, so I'd suggest picking up a 4690k on sale during cybermonday. Just so you can have that headroom.
No reason to get an i7 though.
K8 is about the maximum one would need for gaming and other casual uses, but want it or not the bloat and marketing doesn't rest so you gotta buy the latest shit or be made fun of.
I predict that by 2024 there will be no programmer capable of running space invaders on pentium 4.
>>45236070
Because graphically intense stuff that is optimized well has not much need of a CPU?
Why do you think you REQUIRE the game to use 100% gpu and 100% cpu power?
Why does the fact you can keep a CPU for years without any real downside seem like a bad thing to you?
>>45236070
who is this qt
>>45236119
This is Europe, we don't have Black Fridays or Cybermondays. Silly Americans.
>>45236147
Soikku
>>45236070
Games have moved 90% of their processing requirements to the graphics card. You could get away with a pretty shitty cpu if you had an extremely powerful gpu.
No it's not just you.
But think about it, why would games use more CPU power? What is there to do?
The GPU side you can imagine for sure, "more graphics", but with the CPU side once you have enough to run HL2 level physics, AI, pathing and other crap algorithms, you don't need much to do.
It's simulation type games rather than racing, shooting, whatever games that use up CPU power.
Dwarf Fortress eats CPU like a motherfucker. Flight sims, 4X games like star ruler.
Well we'd see more of these cpu intensive games but you can again thank consoles for that. Weak-ass CPUs as usual.
>>45236147
She is not qt anymore, looks like 50 years old scab
>>45236157
>Yuropoors
>>45236175
>>45236210
10/10
>>45236070
I bought an R9 270x a couple of days ago and I can play almost anything on at least high graphics.
My CPU is older than the hills and I think I bought my motherboard like 10 years ago.
>>45236070
>inb4 gta v need 8 core cpu
>tfw some retard here said e8400 better than q6600 6 years ago.
>>45236471
Also to add that's high on a 1080p 40" televisition 1080x1920
>>45236195
There's always emulation if you want to push your CPU with gaming related things. Some games require a ton of power, especially once you render them in high res.
>>45236479
>1080x1920
On the offchance that it's not a typo, MUH SHMUP NIGGA!!
>>45236471
>I think I bought my motherboard like 10 years ago.
>DDR3
No you did not, now stop exaggerating you fucking faggot.
>>45236473
>e8400 better than q6600 6 years ago.
Always was and always will be
>have money to upgrade to an overkill PC
>have no need to update my 4 year old 6950/i5 2500k system
>realize I only ever played touhou and 2D games on it for a few hours
>don't even have internet friends any more because lack of games means nothing in common
that STEM feel.
>>45237034
>That fucking feel
Go to friends house, I haven't played vidya is forever, so watching him play Dark Souls is drab. End up talking to his sister and posting on the chans all night and drinking too much.
Minecraft though. Holy shit. My Q6600 was once enough, 1.7+ runs like shit, especially on Java 8.
>>45237083
I tried to play dark souls twice, when it was flavor of the month at PC release, then again recently. I more or less bored quit, the same thing happened with skyrim when it was released.
I tried to play the witcher 2 but when I got about 10 hours in I felt too guilty about the time I was wasting on it and how slow it was moving. I loved the first one (which was inferior) and played it twice years ago.
Try Prepar3d and FSX, they demand good CPU speed.
Same reason why I sold my retina MBP and went back to my Thinkpad X220t. It's just way more powerful.
>>45237092
Thats less your specs, more Mojang are a shit.
Apparently nearly reference to a blocks coordinates spawns a new Object for the position. Apparently the amount of objects created causes a full GC every 8 seconds, its disgusting.
This goes back and forth, hardware outpaces software and then new software is written and software outpaces hardware, back and forth like a see-saw, and it's been happening for 30 years.
I think most AAA games don't really use much CPU, the real demand is for graphics processing. Simulation type games like Kerbal Space Program and Dwarf Fortress tend to be more CPU intensive. Shadows of Mordor apparently uses a fair bit of CPU to process the activities of off-screen NPCs as part of it's "Nemesis System"; so much so that the Nemesis System won't be available on the Xbox 360 port of the game.
>>45236175
she looks like a pig
>>45236191
>what is a bottleneck
>>45236434
>having a day a year so you can actually afford something
>calling yuropoor
lel
I bet intel shekels are already trying to push EA to make 120 players servers on the next BF title to sell new CPU's.
>>45237856
>tfw no proper simulator with aircraft (not arma shit), vehicles and soldiers with hundreds of players on
>>45237706
Yeah well, your mom oinks like one.
>>45237893
Planetside, maybe?
>>45236119
>http://www.ocaholic.ch/modules/smartsection/item.php?itemid=1158
>suggesting the 4690k over the 2500k
If you oc both the difference is maybe 1% not to mention the 2500k is much better suited for overclocking because it has a properly soldered heatsink as opposed to the newer generations of intel cpu's
>>45237933
nice one
now, why don't you go back to pulling your pork at those pictures of that pig
>>45238003
>simulator
Planetside is the epitome of arcade
spawn>run 5 meters>die>respawn>goto 10
>>45238003
nah man, modern warfare
like DCS for aircraft + arma could work
Little off-topic but just saw on TV, that if you ever see a woman laughing to herself or smiling to herself she has farted in the last hour or so. Weird ain't it?
>>45238035
That article doesn't show arma or the 4690k
Gaming has stagnated due to consoles.
I have an old I7 laptop with a quadro which is basically a 9800gtx with extra memory and I can actually still play A LOT of games.
It's usually on mid settings, some high on 1920x1200
I never tried battlefield, but I can run metro last light on low settings, and Skyrim on high (aa ect off) just fine.
That's pretty fucking pathetic if you ask me.
No, it's not just you, OP.
Most games are cross-platform and even the new consoles are like entry-level gaming PCs at best.
Muh i7 920 also still plays games fine. A bunch of upcoming high-end PC only release titles might finally make me upgrade, though. We'll see.
>>45238092
You think the 4690k is going to perform very differently from the 4670k? nope
>>45238114
>implying consoles holding back the rest of gaming from an all out graphics war is a bad thing.
>>45238092
If you used the 4690K you'd also have to use the 2550K since they're both the lower model but with an extra 100 Mhz, and we all know how much of a difference that makes especially once you overclock them. None.
>>45238126
the 4690k does overclock much better if you're not going to bother delidding it
Don't let ARMA be a representation either.
When I had an i5 760 and dual radeon HD 6850's I got better FPS than I do on my i5 3470 and R9 270x
and my laptop
>>45238114
Runs it not as high, but more consistently than either of them.
I've also never seen more than a few FPS difference between highest and lowest settings besides when I was on an Intel HD 4000
That fuckin game man.... What the fuck
>>45238157
Not to mention, the 4690k is still not soldered properly meaning it will get hotter at similar clock speeds
>>45238180
Might as well actually use my 2500K for another three years and actually overclock it for the first time.
No good games need horribly overpowered graphics cards anyway. If you pay more than $100 for a graphics card you're a fucking moron, if even that much.
>>45238211
Why the fuck did you buy a k version if you didn't overclock it?
>>45237092
Not using Optifine?
>>45238416
I wanted to but then I used the stock cooler for a while and overclocking it seemed complicated at the time and I was happy with the performance so I just kinda forgot about it and about ordering an aftermarket cooler.
Plus, what's a few dollars over the non-K version?
>>45238463
Throw away money if you aren't going to overclock it
>>45238518
Don't be so stubborn! We're not talking about a few thousand dollars, we're talking about a few dollars!
>>45238543
The point still stands, the only reason to spend more money on a k version is because it has an unlocked multiplier, if you don't make use of that I don't see the point
>>45238563
Well I may make use of it. It's already worth if it I'm getting another year out of it.
>>45238587
getting another year? why do you think you will just get a year out of it? It performs pretty much identically in videogames to the newer generations of cpu's
>>45238604
That's the point of it. The K, the merrier. Why do you even keep arguing with me just because I haven't multiplied by processor yet?
What about shit like opening 300 tabs on firefox? I have a 2500K OC'd to 4ghz but lately it feels slower. I rarely close my tabs in firefox.
>>45238640
I keep arguing with you because you keep saying dumb shit, like implying the 2500k will need to be replacing in a years time
>>45238655
Have you ever thought about closing your tabs?
>>45238688
But what if I need to view them again later? I still have tab groups from a year ago.
>>45238686
I didn't say the 2500K would need replacing in a years time, what I said was simply that buying the slightly pricier model of a CPU so you can overclock it and get another year out of it already makes it worth it.
>>45238702
I'm pretty fucking certain that's what bookmarks have been invented for.
>>45238416
The K version was cheaper when I bought it. Can I get an upboat?
>>45238733
But my bookmarks are a mess too and sometimes I come across stuff that isn't really worth bookmarking but maybe I'd like to look at it again later.
We're straying from the point though, Will the current stock 4.0ghz i5/i7 cpus outperform my 2500k by a large margin in this regard? My 2500k is 3 year old tech after all. Thanks.
>>45238773
If you want to look at it again later, that's when it qualifies for being a bookmark. There is no quality standard for them, all that matters is that you want to look at it again later.
>>45238788
Ok, I'll take note of that in the future. Could you address my second question too?
>>45238743
Someone was a fucking retard at that shop then
>>45238715
You didn't say it, but you heavily implied it, by saying "I'm gonna oc it and see if I can get another year out of it" like you're squeezing the last bit of performance out of it
The 2500k is still an amazing chip, plenty strong enough for the coming years especialy when oc'd, only difference with more modern cpu's is a slightly lower power usage (though the 2500k seems to be less power demanding than the 4670 when oc'd)
>>45236175
Is she Japanese or Finnish... or what is she?
>>45238841
It was Microcenter.
>>45238841
I didn't say I'll see if I can get another year out of it. I said if I get another year out of it, having bought the K already amortizes itself.
>>45238907
Just oc your 2500k and stfu
>>45238872
nordick mustard race
>>45237034
>This feel.
I have a 3570k and a HD7950.... I have only used it to play gta for a few hours.... Now using it to lurk on /g/ and writing some simple code... My Thinkpad would have been fine for that. I wasted about 800 YuroDollars on this PC.
>>45238946
Thanks, I will.
>>45238042
I bet you're just sitting there and snorting at your own joke
>>45238807
>>45238788
So rude.
>>45236070
Jewnose
>>45236175
>tfw no qt mongol gf
>>45238155
Mainstream Gameplay hasn't really changed in ten years or more. Seriously. Barring some indie games, they're all doing the same shit over and over again. WoW is so much like EverQuest, it was a joke.
I think Dota is one of the only new gametypes to come out recently... and it probably has older analogues, but I can't think of them right now. Then it got copied by LoL and people eat that shit up even though it's a total knockoff. LoL is fun, though.
RTS games haven't changed much since the 90's, really.
It makes this old gamer sad.
>>45240615
>Dota
>recent
>Then it got copied by LoL
Please stop. You obviously don't know what you're talking about.
>>>/v/
>>45240839
Please stop. You obviously don't know what you are talking about.
That's how bad it is. That's exactly what I'm saying. Mainstream games for the last decade have all been rehashed shit that makes old gamers sad.
>>>/getout/
>>45241317
No, you don't know what you're talking about. Dota is just a rehash of aos. Claiming that lol is a copy of dota is stupid since guinsoo is the one who revived dota in tft. Dota is just a dumbed down version of the game for shit players who couldn't manage ladder games, not a new gametype.
Go back to >>>/v/.
>>45237034
I kinda know that feel. Got a lot out of my 680 and refuse to upgrade because I mostly lost interest in gaymes. The 680 is still good for editing and transcoding and holds up fine for gpu enhanced playback. Still pulls its weight on modern gaymes as long as AA is not maxed out. Fortunately, I got a lot of playing time out of it so it wasn't a waste.
>>45238872
i can never tell those two from another
fuck
>>45241520
> Dota is dumbed down version of ladder games
lol wut
>>45236175
she looks like a knockoff Jeanette McCurdy
>>45236070
Play some strategy games, CPU is very important for AI
>>45236070
>currently
Is this 2007?
>>45236070
Mostly because people are still stuck on dual cores and the game devs dont want to alienate potential customer base.
>>45238946
/thread
>>45236070
I agree.
I've been talking about this for a couple years already, and noticed this trend starting as far back as 2008. Remember how long the Q6600 and E8400 were dominating everything well beyond their expected lifespans?
I suspect the primary reason is because of the big development shift away from PC - more and more games being developed for consoles first and then ported to PC. Working with the stagnant resources of consoles means developers will essentially always be working for the lowest spec.
My 1090T is already four years old, and is still performing fine; I expect I will upgrade somewhere around 2016/2017. This longevity is something that was unheard of before.
Sure, there are a FEW PC-first titles that can stress a modern CPU, but nothing that makes me feel the need to upgrade. The only ports that bog down CPUs are unoptimized garbage and don't really have anything to do with CPU power anyway - they always perform like shit and wouldn't scale properly with a faster chip anyway.
>>45241520
it's all fucking tank war with tits you moron
nothing is new
>>45237034
I pretty much play nothing but Stepmania and decade-old racing games on it. Sometimes Quake on occasion.
>>45236070
>tfw you bought a 2500K, the greatest processor made in the last 3 years :^)
no end in sight bros
>>45237770
And in the end you eurofags still have to pay more for everything, lel.
>>45237034
I've pretty much given up on games at this point, I'd figure that if I still want to be interested in it as a hobby I'll need to make my own games and I don't have the time to generate 100+ assets and make a functional program out of it.
sorta sucks that gaming has come down to all of this, I still enjoy programming really simple games (ala pong, missile command) in C and making ardinuno arcade cabinets that I put up in my garage or resell on ebay
>>45236775
You are very silly in how wrong you are.
