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Good afternoon /g/

My son is 13 years old and smart for his age. But he can be a big short sighted and rushed into things.

He wants to "make a game or animation". Yesterday he downloaded a trial of Adobe Flash, but I discouraged him from learning that since it's a program that's on it's way out.

I suggested maybe he should learn HTML and then HTML5, but he feels like that would take too long. He really just wants to jump straight in and see some results.

He has:

- Made a minecraft server on his own for him and his friends to play
- Completed all the Codecademy courses on Javascript and enjoyed it.

But this week he wants to animate something. What program do you recommend?
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Flash, nigga.
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Is that an actual picture of your son?

What kind of father are you?
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>>43150784
/thread
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>>43150784
>Yesterday he downloaded a trial of Adobe Flash, but I discouraged him from learning that since it's a program that's on it's way out.

So I see you disagree?
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>>43150768
If that's your son, then boy, does he look like a fag. Also tell your son that he is wasting his time and he should rather learn something useful, like C/C++.
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>>43150768

is your son DTF?
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>>43150807
Of course not, I got it from some dentist's web site
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>>43150768
Your "son" is cute
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>>43150768
SICP
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>>43150813
Yes.

He wants to animate. He is young. Flash will teach him all skills necessary to progress onto a platform that is not dying when he is ready.

Let him eat cake
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>Completed all the Codecademy courses on Javascript and enjoyed it.

Your son is such a genius!

I'm pretty sure my dog could complete those courses.
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>>43150768
He should learn Haxe: http://haxe.org
It's basically a replacement for making games in Flash.
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>>43150768
Tell him he should give up and stop thinking he will ever be in the industry he wants to be in. No, he won't animate or make video games, the closest he will get is being a code monkey intern working for free until he demands to get an actual job where he will then get laid off and replaced by some Indian working for $0.52/hour.
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>>43150852
>I'm pretty sure my dog could complete those courses

I had to give you some indication that he wasn't a flying idiot. You have a smart dog.
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>>43150852
Cmon he's 13 years old.
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>>43150876
My dog is 1 and could do those courses.
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>>43150865

I really don't think he has any aspirations beyond "it would be cool to make something myself"
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>>43150878
Poor Declan, he'll never get to make that game.
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>>43150768

Let him learn what he wants to.

Once you start putting limits on learning and saying "you must learn this instead" you suck the fun out of it and become the asshole.

Don't be an asshole.
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>>43150878
/thread
op should kill himself
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>>43150824
>>43150878
>Some dentists website
kek
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>>43150768
https://www.processing.org/
http://hello.processing.org/editor/

You know, he's going to figure out sooner or later you're hanging out on 4chan. Do you really want that? Find a more respectable venue to ask questions like this in anon.

http://cgsociety.org
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>>43150850
>>43150813
>>43150784
>>43150768
Yeah let him learn flash. I remember I got into messing with DAWs by messing with my dad's Mac (he's a huge macfag) and screwing with Garageband for hours.
It was shit, but a good stepping stone for Pro Tools and Logic which I later picked up.
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>>43150889
Well my foot bacteria did those courses in under 2 minutes.
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>>43150901
That's a good point, however, after the 30 day trial is over I have to find him a legit copy of Flash or the fun ends anyway. I'd rather pay several hundred dollars for a program that isn't gasping for breath
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>>43150768
>pressed run
>followed an idiot proof tutorial on port forwarding, if it was even necessary
>codeacademy
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>>43150890
He should kill himself... Oh wait, >>43150878 says he did.
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top kek
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>>43150768
>Made a minecraft server on his own for him and his friends to play
>Completed all the Codecademy courses on Javascript and enjoyed it.

Wow holy christ what a prodigy.

>implying those 2 things are hard at all.
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>>43150932
>not just cracking it
I mean, really? Unless it has divine anti-piracy magic I don't see the reason not to.
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Make him install Gentoo if he's so smart.
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>>43150959
I didn't actually imply that those things are hard at all. I did intend for you to note that he's not a completely moron.
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>>43150768
Gentoo has all of the tools he needs to do it. Have him install that.
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>>43150993
A 4 year old with down and paralysed from the neck down could do those things.
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What are you going to do when he starts dating a boy?
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>>43151021
You're slightly exaggerating
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>>43150976
i cant believe it took more than 30 posts for someone to suggest this.
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>>43151021
*down syndrome
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>this thread
TOPKEK

/thread
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this thread man. i don't think i belong on this board any longer :(
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>>43150854
Thank you. Link saved.

>>43150913

Thank you, links saved.

>>43150976

Thank you, I'll suggest it.
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>>43151024
Fuck him in the ass harder than usual to prepare him.
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>>43151028
Oh yeah, his "son" supposedly has friends.
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>>43150959
You're a fucking adult. Act like it.

I can envision you at family gatherings.
>Oh golly! Your 2 year old son took his first steps. What a fucking pleb. Walking is so easy, what's got you in a bundle of joy?
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>>43150993
>he's not a completely moron.
nice grammar
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>>43151081
>implying he's an adult
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>>43151081
Maybe he's just a realist. It sucks when you grow up and learn that you aren't special at all since that is the opposite of what you are told your whole life.
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>>43150784
/thread
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>>43151107
You are special though. :3
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>>43151107
Your mileage may vary, but you cannot begin to guess how my son has been treated. I'm sorry that adulthood has disappointed you.
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>>43151124
:')
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>>43151137
Is he the autistic one or the one that got dumped in a swamp?
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>>43151081
>Oh wow a first word, good-for-fucking-you. how's it feel to have a complete autist for a child? Come back to me when he can speak full, fluent sentences without obvious grammatical errors.
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>>43151081
But my "son" at 12 was doing the same shit and more.

>The son is not me.
>Mods the son is not me.
>I'm the proper age.
>I'm not 13
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>>43151155
Both
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>>43150878
OP, your son is dead...
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>>43151164
>Oh wow, solid food. I've been eating solid food for 28 years now. It's not even that difficult. Give me a call when he can eat an entire cheeseburger on his own faggot.
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>>43151166
Oh and my "son" at 6 was learning DOS for lulz even though it was 2006.

I, I mean my son was and is a odd child.
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>>43150768
declan crouch?
Boy he's a cutie. Too bad he's not your son.

Anyway, regarding the topic at hand - a minecraft server and codeacademy are really just handholding him, tell him that if he wants to make something decent he should take time and actually get into it. If you find a nice way that takes a while to learn, convince him to do it anyway instead of just giving up.
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Man poor OP, he just wanted suggestions for his kid.
Shouldn't have posted some random 13 year old kid with Aspergers getting murdered or not qualifying your statement initially with "since he's not completely retarded of a shitty faggot son".
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>>43151107
If he's a realist, he's got a false sense of reality. In this day and age there are people 60+ years old going back to college and graduating. It took them 60 fucking years to graduate college, while somewhere out there there's a 15 year old that graduated from Brown. Does that make it any less of an accomplishment for that old man? No.

There are many many people in the REAL world that don't know code, nevermind the fact that they're well beyond the age of 13. Does that make them less intelligent than you because you learned to code when you were 10 and a half?
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>>43151164
you weren't replying to me. that was someguy anon
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>>43151244
Obviously the answer is yes.
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>>43151244
>Does that make them less intelligent than you because you learned to code when you were 10 and a half?

Yes, It does.
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itt: teenagers competing their virtual sons
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>>43151259
I remember my first beer
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>>43151250
Oh, meant to agree at first and add on
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>>43151277
m-my son is real :s
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>>43151285
Mine too. ;)
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If he already knows Javascript, he can easily just jump right into HTML5 with Canvas and start working from there.
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>>43150768
What the fuck is wrong with pencil and paper? That's how Walt Disney did it. That man had a good head on his shoulders. Hated the jews.
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>>43151277
if your "13 year old son" is so smart then how come he hasn't installed gentoo?? mine could if I had one fucker
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>>43150768
>He has:
>- Made a minecraft server on his own for him and his friends to play
Wow, running Linux and 5 commands! No way! Cool OP!
>codeacademy javascript
pls be troll
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>>43150768
Flash is perfectly fine for simple stuff. Actionscript 3 is a programming language.
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>>43151310
ayy lmao
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>>43151310
>linux commands
There are no fucking commands in that shit. It's all done with gui's even the fucking port forward.

When my son was 6 in 2006 he used dos for the lulz it didn't even do it to be cool.
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>>43151268
It sounds like you're being serious.
Dear god I hope you're not

>Someone didn't take an interest in the things I did until a later age
>instead of focusing on computers from the age of 8, they learned how to play sports, have fun, socialize, they studied rocket science in university instead of CS, and they learned how to be a productive member of society
>but since they don't know how to code I'm obviously smarter.
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>>43151338
So nice you had to say it twice?

We heard you the first time, your son is autistic.
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>>43151164
>>43151081
>>Oh golly! Your 2 year old son took his first steps. What a fucking pleb. Walking is so easy, what's got you in a bundle of joy?

HOLY FUCK /G/
YOU FUCKEN MADE ME CRY OF LAUGHTER
YOU FUCKING FUCKWITS I FUCKING HATE YOU
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>>43151338
pretty sure it takes about 5 terminal commands to set up a minecraft server in Linux
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>>43151354
>implying the kid uses linux
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>>43151342
Looks like you got it.
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op should have just lied and said
>mine son is a completely faggot failure NEET but finally did something with his shitty life by doing that codecademy shit or whatever and has been getting into animation and since I don't want him to keep on being a do nothing faggot what would you suggest?
and then proceded to post some stereotypical 20 something year old NEET
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>>43151349
I AM NOT, I MEAN MY SON IS NOT AUTISTIC. HE JUST WANTED TO KNOW WHAT WAS GOING ON BEHIND WINDOWS FANCY GUI.
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>>43151342
if you couldn't compile a kernel by 4 then i'm sorry but your a genuine retard, you probably don't even watch superior japanese animated series and films.
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>>43151342
I'm not saying anything like that, I'm just saying his son is not a prodigy since there will always be younger people doing better shit then him.
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>>43151407
>He never said his son was a prodigy
>He just wants to be proud of something he spent 13 years raising

I cri
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>>43151407
>I'm just saying his son is not a prodigy
when did OP say this? he was obviously just showing stuff he already knows to build upon
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>>43151430
poor dad
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Jesus, /g/. Quit trying to act so cool to your internet friends.
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>>43151441
He implied that it was special his son could set up a minecraft server and do codeacademy.
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>>43151476
Go away son, father's busy
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>>43151482
>He implied that it was special his son could set up a minecraft server and do codeacademy.
I don't see it
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>>43151482
OP didn't imply shit, you just inferred
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>>43151509
I didn't actually imply that those things are hard at all. I did intend for you to note that he's not a completely moron.

He said his son wasn't "a completely moron", he's implying that a moron couldn't do that shit.
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>>43151537
Sorry I forgot to use greentext.
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>>43151303
>good head on his shoulders
>hated the jews
top kek m8
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>>43151303
please answer my question, I'm being serious.

I'm an animator at the studio that does Adventure Time. We're digital, but the animators who have "grown up" on digital are extremely shitty and their animations look all rigid, because they're used to just, for example, selecting an arm and rotating it, instead of actually redrawing the arm for each frame, which encourages adding nuance to the motion since you're redrawing it anyway.
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>>43151537
I know a few morons and they can hardly figure out how to attach mails to emails, much less actually write any sort of code.
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Synfig
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>>43151537
My uncle is a moron, he doesn't even know minecraft
So I doubt he can set up a server
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>>43150784
>Flash, nigga.
>Raising a proprietary shithead son.
Free software or bust.
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>>43151028
No.
Pic related.
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>>43151585
Those are retards.
Just because his son made a minecraft server and did some codeacademy bullshit doesn't make him "not completely moron".
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>>43151537
I think you may want to look into what constitutes a complete moron.

Think someone who can't even tie his own shoes.
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>>43150768
He should use OpenGL if he's actually worth shit
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>>43150768
If he's comfortable with Javascript, have him look at Three.js if he hasn't already.

http://threejs.org/
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Goddammit /g/
The one thread you decide to be funny is when I'm browsing at work.

Also OPs son should just learn how to torrent. free porn and video games will keep him busy until he's about 25
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>>43150768
AfterEffects duh. It's like Adobe Flash on steroids, but with huge balls instead of steroid-shrunken balls.
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>>43151674
>free porn and video games will keep him busy until he's about 25
Idiocracy.
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>>43151674
>implying you really need to learn something to torrent
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>>43150918
>Logic
what a pleb.
Ableton masterrace
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>>43151731
Pro Tools master race
Logic is just a secondary
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If he isn't already writing a multi threaded 3d C++ game with DirectX then he's a fucking pleb and will never make it in the games industry
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/g/ = /b/ v.2
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>>43151723
Learning the 3 steps to torrent is still learning.
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>>43151777
Trips CONFIRM
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>>43150878
HAHAHA
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>>43151795
I guess, TECHNICALLY
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>>43151769
>DirectX
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>>43151799
>>43151811

2 dubs in a row,
nice.
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>>43150768
> minecraft server???

Holy shit he's a genius!!
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>>43150768
your son is pretty pleb. mine knew at least three extremely complex programming languages like ruby or CSS by the age of six
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>>43151886
/thread
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>>43151777
3.0, /v/ has been 2.0 since a gorillian years
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>>43150878

>Found in swamp

The laddeh should've checked himself before he Shrek'd himself.
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Fucking plebs. My son's first words were "printf Hello World"
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>>43151975
Shrek is love,
Shrek is life,
OPs son is a faggot.
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>>43151915
>mine knew at least three extremely complex programming languages like ruby or CSS by the age of six
Sorry to say but you're a retard if you think a 2 year old moron couldn't figure that out.
>wow he knows 3 languages!!!
Get ready to get BTFO
>son just turned 4
>working at MIT labs
>almost to a conclusion about P versus NP problem
>engineering next era's quantum computing
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>>43151961
>>43151777
Wrong both of you.
Moot himself said that /jp/ was /b/2.0
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>>43152003

OP confirmed for Farquaad.
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>>43152018
everyone knows that /jp/ is proto-[s4s], moot is just dumb
/jp/ is too small, slow, and contained in their own air of abstract silliness
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>>43152037
Wow programming really changes a person.
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>>43152026
I kek'd
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>>43150824
Liar. That kid committed suicide.

http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-national/missing-cairns-teen-took-his-own-life-20110611-1fxre.html
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>>43151995
>implying that would compile
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>>43152063
/jp/ would've developed into [s4s] if the terrible lich king "janny(look like a cat LMAO)" hadn't come.
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>>43152139
>tfw got b& from /jp/ for talking about japanese music that weren't 2hu/vocaloid/jpop/baby metal
I bet the Jews did this
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OP if you're still around I thought I'd offer some insight.

HTML5 engines are actually very easy to use. I've never used flash, but I've used several engines and HTML5 is by far the simplest, and I don't think it'll be dead any time soon.

Look up Panda.js. It's in javascript, so it should be relatively familiar (it's also free).
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is someone archiving this ;-;
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>>43150768
Blender, you massive faggot.
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>>43152178
Moderation on the Jay has been pretty lax recently.
Did janny quit?
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Get him to do some proper programming. Nothing wrong with a bit of C at that age.

13 is not that young.
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>>43152211
lurk moar newfag
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>>43152305
>13 is not that young.
But I want to beat people up right NOW!
I got the pajamas!
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>>43152315
been here longer than you bitch tits ;D
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>>43152337
What? I'm just saying that 13 is fine to be learning C, if the kid is reasonably bright/.
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>>43152337
No, wash the car and then paint the fence.

Kara-te is here. *touches chest*
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>>43151342
>they studied rocket science in university instead of CS
>but since they don't know how to code I'm obviously smarter.
If you're a rocket scientist and you don't know some basic coding skills, you're going to be fucking screwed in the industry.
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>>43152340
>bitch tits
>stating you've been here longer
>;D

lurk more newfag
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>>43152383
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>>43152396
>doesn't know about the archive
>uses emoticons
lurk moar
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>>43152396
>hasn't used meme arrows yet
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>>43152440
Forgot to add
>misusing memes
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>>43150768
>my son
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>>43152475
>implying greentexting is sage
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>>43151619
>tfw grandparents can't set up a minecraft server
>tfw parents can't set up a minecraft server either
>tfw whole family consists of morons
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>>43152572
>implying they're talking about greentexting
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>>43152634
>implying I didn't read >>43152475
the fucking shill is real, just gonna keep my mouth shut until the summerfags get tucked in
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>>43152582
I bet they don't even know javascript
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Hi, my son is thirteen and he wants to know what is an easy operating system to watch porn of his friends on secretly.
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>>43150768
Blender
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>>43153322
>to watch porn of his friends on secretly.
I'd like to know this too
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>>43150768
> Made a minecraft server on his own for him and his friends to play
So he knows how to double click a .jar and forward his ports?

Also confirmed autism.
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>>43153489
Does anyone actually seriously use this?
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>>43153840
They used this for an intro class back when I was in highschool.
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>>43153949
And look how you turned out.
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>>43155222
Employed making 6 figures?
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>>43155222
This was like freshman/sophomore level.
This was the first exposure to CS for most kids.
What would you expect?
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>>43151674
I'm 33 and it still keeps me busy
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>>43151635
>Being even more autistic than OP's son.
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