Thinkpad thread!
Moe uguu loli pantsu edition~
What thinkpad does onii-chan use?
>>43110270
Kill yourself.
>>43110270
None yet, but I want a W520
>that based as fuck 1920x1080
hnnggg
Just bought a T420 off ebay
Non-owner here, was thinking of buying a T410. Found one for 160 USD and it seems like a good price. I want something I can install OS X onto for cheap to have fun with it
WXGA+
i5 540m 2.53ghz
2gb DDR3
Is this a solid deal or is there something I'm missing?
>>43111590
$160 seems like a good price, get some more ram and a ssd too.
What are the benefits of having a SSD over a regular hard drive?
>>43111777
Programs start faster, lightning file transfer speeds and ssd's can take a lot of damage because they have no moving parts. If you drop your lappy you won't lose your data.
>>43111827
Should I take the original hard drive out and replace it with a SSD or have both?
>>43111870
I'd buy a ultrabay hdd adapter and put the original hdd in there for extra storage.
Lenova T420 blaze it faggot
>>43111711
The bid is at 90 USD right now with 2.5 hours left. Should I just buy it now for the 160 USD? I don't have any experience with ebay and the auction game
which one of you just sold me this
>>43110698
>16:9
>>43112025
wait until the last 5 seconds and bid $160
>>43112056
>implying someone here who uses an older Thinkpad would put Windows on it
>>43112202
I think he was just reselling it.
>>43112202
A T60 can handle Win7 very well.
>>43112366
But usually /g/ spergs out about Linux and the great Linux compatibility of Thinkpads.
>>43112406
that's what I plan on doing
Just got an X220 last week for around 450
i7-2640M @ 2.8GHz
8GB RAM
180GB SSD
IPS screen
>>43111936
>>43112569
What's programming on it like with the resolution?
Also battery life?
I'm between this and the T420s
Anyone has experience with modding the BIOS to remove hardware check or modify the whitelist?
>>43111190
Planning to blaze your new laptop?
The good news is the LED strip lights up!
The bad news is the dimming doesn't seem to work. Lowering brightness does jack shit, increasing it kinda blinks it, the brightness decreases for a fraction of a second, then goes back to normal.
I use a T420[spoiler] s [/spoiler]
>>43111190
tfw I love my T410
I put an ssd and put 8gb ram into this beast... blazin 420 fast with my i5
>>43112056
Which model is that?
>>43113891
it clearly says x200 tablet
>>43113891
X200 tablet.
>>43113898
>>43113903
Wasn't paying attention, forgive me and thank you.
>>43112202
I use windows 7 with my T61, T400 and x220t
>>43113569
On what model?
>>43113955
x201t
Im looking to buy a used thinkpad.
what is the going rate for x230s?
Ive found a couple of them for anywhere between 630-750 depending on specs
How are the current T and X thinkpads? I've heard the lines started to go downhill but holy shit that 3K IPS on the T540 is tempting.
Reviews of T410 and T420:
http://www.tomsick.net/misc/
Question:
Can I replace my T7600 with a L2500 to make my T60p run cooler?
What models of the T/W/X series would you call the last of good ThinkPads?
Love my X201, even if it does get a little toasty
>>43114406
Sandy Bridge line
>>43110270
I have $350, what buy?
>>43114880
You can afford pretty much any Sandy Bridge model, maybe Ivy Bridge if you're lucky/patient.
Unless you're counting upgrades too, like SSD + RAM, etc. Then just stick to looking for Sandy Bridge models.
>>43114419
You should get the palmrest with no trackpad
X201 or X220?
Light, quiet, cool temps, and long battery life are the most important aspects here. No external display will be used.
X220 has the IPS display that's great to look at, but gets white spots, and is a shitty 16:9 1366x768. However it does have the newer processor, and the juicy slice battery.
X201 has 16:10, but it's 1280x800. TN iirc, so it will be dimmer. Also apparently it heats up pretty well, and won't be as battery efficient. It is however $200 cheaper as a whole, and supposedly has better build quality.
I'm going to be running Xubuntu, Ubuntu, Fedora, Debian, or Crunchbang on it almost exclusively. The most resource intensive thing I'll be running is going to be a win8 VM, and Eclipse for android development.
I had made up my mind earlier about getting the x220, but someone in a previous thread suggested the x201 will be more enjoyable. I'm coming from a T61, so either of them is going to be a downgrade in resolution.
Anyone ever use both?
>>43113341
I haven't used an X220, but I've used the T420s, and I can tell you that the screen on it is pretty shit. It's like looking through a screen door.
>>43113709
nice! looking forward to this
>>43115078
lel, I'm just following the guide
https://people.xiph.org/~xiphmont/thinkpad/led-backlight.shtml
>>43115119
>thought you were the guy writing the guide
>>43110270
Not funny, previous post much better.
>>43114993
I have an X200 and an X230. You probably want the newer processor, much better battery life, ability to use a mSATA SSD and IPS screen of the X220, but I'd get a dock and another monitor if you want to use an IDE on it. In my experience the major problem with the screen is not white spots but image retention.
>>43115055
but it supposed to be IPS....?
>>43113798
looking to grab one for class and programming. Battery life? Opinions etc?
>Read these threads.
>See people cumming all over their thinkpads and other stupid shit.
>Decide to just buy new.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00IPIZ17G/ref=ox_ya_os_product_refresh_T1
>>43116196
>Battery life?
a lot, with the 9-cell battery
>Opinions etc?
it's gud, I just wish I went for an X220 instead.
My T420 makes a high pitched but low volume droning whenever it goes to sleep. What is this, and is there anything I can do about it?
>>43116626
Do you have an HDD or SSD?
Is the HDD still spinning?
>>43116636
Both, though even removing the HDD doesn't prevent this.
>>43112080
>95% NTSC gamut
>>43111590
Check your resolution privilege
>>43113998
>>43114993
X220.
>>43116181
T420s has no IPS, but can take the better X1 Carbon panel.
>>43115119
Keep us apprised, anon.
>>43116265
disgusting/10
>>43116656
CPU whine. Probably out of luck.
Reseat heatsink or swap the RAM stick locations.
I posted this in the last thread, but then I passed out.
I've been here before, when I was having issues with my T60p's GPU overheating.
I used the copper penny trick with AS5.
Anyways, it was running pretty hot recently, so I cleaned it with alcohol and applied new thermal gel, still AS5.
I've also done something I can't remember that allows me to set the fan at full speed withecho level disengaged | sudo tee /proc/acpi/ibm/fan.
Still,cat /proc/acpi/ibm/thermalgives:temperatures: 82 54 44 94 50 -128 40 -128 51 67 71 -128 -128 -128 -128 -128
Apparently, the 4th is the GPU, which shuts itself off at 100. It's no longer better than the 94-96 I had yesterday, but what's wrong?
Did I possibly wear my already probably tired fan out? Should I invest in a new one? How much should I expect to pay for one if I should? Could someone recommend a seller if I should?
The penny is indeed pre-1982 and thusly copper.
>>43116196
I wouldn't know about battery because mine is dying and I get 30 minutes at best.
>>43112080
16:9 @ 1920x1080 is better than 16:10 at anything lower
quit being autistic
>>43114942
the palmrest with a fingerprint reader and no trackpad is rare as fug
>>43117383
It shouldn't be, X200 palm rest is interchangeable with the X201...
>>43110698
have one. The screen is based once decently calibrated. One of the better TN panels out there
>>43110270
Posting from my x201
>Buy thinkpad off amazon
>order SSD at same time
>TFW I've had my thinkpad for almost a month and the SSD just gets here
>>43118701
Has the SSD changed anything?
>>43119109
no ssd's are just placebo
Is the Yoga 2 pro any good? Im thinking about getting one.
>>43119284
You sir are fucking retarded.
I bought a T60 to fuck with. It has decent stats right now, but I'm looking to beef it up, maybe swap out the board for something with a little more juice. Does anyone have experience with swapping boards? Was thinking of at least the T61p, but can you do like a 200 or 400 series board in a T60 case?
>>43110270
That's actually kawaii senpai
>>43119432
I was being sarcastic
>R40 for $20
Should I?
>>43120013
Do you have a use for it?
You'll have to spend a brazillion dollars on RAM if you need more...
>>43120013
I'd go for it, but I'm a hoarder...
>>43120044
Me too, that's why I want to know.
>>43120041
Not really, I just want to use it and have fun with it. I mean it's only $20 bucks, it's not like I'm going homeless for it
Also, there's a T60 for $75 and it looks to be in perfect condition with higher-end specs, and the guy only used it for like a month because it was a work computer. Thoughts?
>>43114942
What does the palm rest look like compared to a normal piece?
What do you guys think of this? Come visit me if you know where I'm at <3
http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/nvn/sys/4558763401.html
>>43120320
fuggg
If I lived in Vancouver I'd buy it. salty ontario tears ;_;
How's the battery though?
>>43120335
I'm not sure. I would ask. If I did need to buy a new battery would it be worth it? How much can I get a battery for?
>>43120355
Oh, I thought you were the one selling
If the battery is crapping out at only 30 minutes then you need a new battery. Get a generic battery because the genuine ones are expensive as fuck and one of the higher-end generic 9cells can last almost 7 hours.
>>43120385
other than that is it a good computer for just running older games and just other shit?
>>43120290
like an X200
>>43120320
you can find T400/T500's for that much now, and arguably much better, also DDR3 RAM is a lot cheaper than DDR2
>>43119773
>tfw you will never pleasure yourself with them
>>43120429
Yea I was reading about that the other day in one of these threads. Where can I pick up one of those models for cheap?
>>43120441
what the fuck, /g/
>>43120409
Yeah, if you're tight on cash it's a very nice computer, Thinkpad love you long time.
>>43120409
Forgot to mention you should upgrade the HDD, 60GB isn't a lot and SSD is amazing
>>43120479
Ssd with hard drive or both?
X201 here.
Does ANYONE worry of the hinges breaking everytime you leave your Laptop alone? I don't even close it, I just leave it half-way, but I fucking worry.
Even had a nightmare of it once.
the x200 is the one with the touch screen right? hows writing look on it? I was considering getting a laptop for note taking for classes
>>43120522
The regular x200 is just a notebook while the x200T (tablet) has stylus/finger touch capabilities.
>>43120509
i use my x201 daily and the hinges are loose like hell. The whole screen wobbles whenever i type now. The hinges are cheap as hell on ebay but im lazy to change it
>>43120509
>ThinkPad metal hinges
>breaking
this is why we don't buy eMachines here
>>43120522
X-series Tablets. There is an X200 Tablet and there is X200 non-tablets. Also X201, X220, X230, and older models such as X60, X61.
>>43120552
I know, I know. but they feel so fucking delicate. Let's hope I get a good paying job to buy more Lenovo shit to compensate for it.
>>43120573
>>43120587
See that's what I fucking mean right there. I must have gotten TOO attached to my Laptop, because this is the only form of connection I'll ever get.
>>43120453
>poor
>hipster
Hello /g/ Please stop with the hipster threads and by a new laptop.
Pic related its my laptop compared to yours.
>>43120542
I see, so does anyone here have an example of the styuls writing something
>>43120759
Here's an X220 Tablet, which is notably skinnier than the X200 or X201.
(pay no attention to the actual content please)
Using a T400 with Gentoo as my main computer, it's pretty good. I bought it refurbished for $400 for some reason. I don't know what they refurbished exactly, it has a scratch on the screen and the Core 2 Duo sticker was replaced with a Centrino sticker. Got an SSD, it's nice. Overall very good even if I could have got it a lot cheaper.
>tfw no coreboot support
>>43120759
Also, it's a digitizer, not a stylus.
Styluses are just sticks, digitizers have batteries in them that enable the use of buttons and pressure sensitivity.
Also since it is Wacom based, you can use several other Wacom digitizers that are much better when it comes to pressure sensitivity, if you're into drawing.
>>43120795
oh that looks nice. how much does that kind go for
>>43120867
About this much
http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_trksid=p2050601.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.Xlenovo+thinkpad+x220+tablet&_nkw=lenovo+thinkpad+x220+tablet&_sacat=0&_from=R40
I got mine for $350 though.
>>43120731
>buy a new laptop
Except I'm POOR, you insensitive fuck. Either way, after having tried the thinkpad, used and all, I have to say I still prefer it over any modern laptop. It's cheap and works bretty good, the keyboard is like sex to my fingers, trackpoint and no touchpad is a miracle, it's sturdy and reliable, the retro business look is just a plus.
>>43119757
>>43119757
Please respond. Is there any good place to go for modding T60 series Thinkpads? It's the 16:10 model, by the way.
>>43120821
There is no battery with wacom. It's powered by some coils under the display.
Likewise though, you can't use too many wacom pens with it. The Intuos line's pens for example is incompatible.
>>43122162
>The Intuos line's pens for example is incompatible.
Wacom uses different frequencies or something for their own products and OEMs. HP, Samsung (including Note phones) and ThinkPad are all intercompatible, but not compatible with Wacom branded devices.
>>43113709
Whelp, now it's time to look for what connection went wrong.
Hm... I suppose I should write a little bit of troubleshooting too, since it's probably unreasonable to expect perfect assembly first try.
If you're still here, can you post your closeup assembly pic from before? Failing anything obvious to spot, I can list the voltages you should see at each connection...
The usual problem, actually, is either a bad connection to surface mount or accidentally breaking one of the surface mount components :-( But aside from being annoying, it's the worst case.
>>43122162
>>43122254
It's not a universally true statement.
And there are indeed Wacom branded devices that can user interchangeable pens. I know for a fact there are a few Cintiq pens that work.
I don't know how Wacom pens work exactly, I just know there are some that work and others that just don't for unknown reasons. The only consistent thing I found was that non-display device pens (such as bamboo and intuos) will not work with Tablet PC's and drawing tablets with displays built in.
Otherwise, it's kind of a lottery. Some Cintiq pens work, some other Tablet PC pens work, such as the Fujitsu Lifebooks, etc. etc.
Anyone else with a tablet have issues with rotation under linux? I get pretty bad tearing, and the screen dimensions don't seem to rotate with it so I have huge fonts from the messed up PPI
>>43110270
>clean unstained panties
Get that fresh pair of shit out of here and come back with the real stuff
>>43122373
As far I'm aware, the wacom implementation in tablet PCs is a relatively old technology related to the UD. As such, pens from other tablet computing devices with wacom digitisers are compatible. As for the cintiq, that's another can of worms but the guess is that it's something related to such.
N-trig pens don't work for obvious reasons though.
>>43112056
just now? you were here yesterday with that same picture.
I love my x220 tablet, but I wish I got the x200 or x201 instead. The reason I went with the 220 was because I thought I wanted a trackpad, but after about a week of using it I disabled the trackpad in the bios.
So I decided I really want to get an x220, problem is I currently live in China. Now I could potentially wait until I'm back in Vancouver for a bit next month to buy one on Craigslist but there's no guarantee one will be available. I could also buy one online here in China. Searching taobao I found this one that seems like a decent price, can anyone confirm?
Configuration C2: ThinkPad X220/I5-2410M/2.5G-3.2G / Memory 2G/320GB HDD / 12.5 "(1366x768) LED / Bluetooth / camera / lithium Countdowns 3050 yuan Configuration Description: With I5 processor, strong performance, main shop recommended.
Comes out to around $530
>>43122782
>So I decided I really want to get an x220
Why? The x220 is shit
>x220
>$530
>seems like a decent price
No
>>43122793
You're the first person I've seen say it's shit. What makes you say that?
>>43122782
>buying electronics in Asia
unless you are going for "slide to unclock" knockoffs. Don't
>>43122808
I can speak Chinese, getting scammed with a knockoff isn't an issue.
>>43122808
Though if you're referring to electronics being overpriced here I agree with that. Problem is I live here now.
>>43120795
i've used it before as a notebook
might as well use paper man just couldnt get to studying from notes
>>43122805
>You're the first person I've seen say it's shit
Really? It's pretty common knwolege the x220 is garbage
>What makes you say that?
Shit keyboard
Shit 16:9 1366x768 screen
Shit build quality
x201 was the last good x series
>>43112366
>>43112202
>>43112406
X200 here I put Windows 7 back on because elementary likes to fucking freeze so much
>>43122848
I mean I've seen it recommended multiple times in this thread alone combined with glowing reviews elsewhere. It seems pretty good. What would you recommend instead?
Is there a T series with a decent screen? Or should I go with >>43110698
Or is there some frankenpad like that? The T430 can be affixed with the X1 screen IIRC, but it's not that good and it's pretty expensive
Why are newer thinkpads bad again?
They seem to be just as durable and expandable as the old ones but with more modern hardware.
>>43122895
The T510/520 did have a 1920x1080 configuration using the same RGBLED backlit panels as the W
>>43122868
x201
>>43123026
>desing has gone to shit, is MBA copy now
>keyboard is not the classic one
>a bunch of classic thinkpad features are gone
It's not much, it's still a good laptop, but lost most of what made the thinkpads good
Also
>those uber shitty screens and low resolutions
Might as well get a rMBP
>>43123063
There is a x201 available on craigslist for $400, seems pretty good. Do you or anyone else have any experience with the HP Elitebook line? There's an 8540p available for $350.
>>43123082
Elitebooks are solid laptops if you're brave enough break out of the Thinkpad hugbox.
>>43123082
x201 should be <$200
>>43123109
Oh seriously? I haven't seen one even close to that cheap
>>43123122
Penis.
http://www.ktgee.net/post/49423737148/thinkpad-guide
>>43123067
Thats pretty much only the Edge line though.
the regular high-end ones only differ from the old ones with the keyboard.
And they're just as good imo
>>43123122
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-X201-Tablet-Fully-Functional-i5-2GB-160GB-Webcam-Same-Day-Ship-/291192565462?pt=Laptops_Nov05&hash=item43cc6deed6
Here's one that looks like a good deal, it's a tablet convertible which have IPS screens unlike the normal ones
>>43110270
A-am I kawaiiii senpaii~?
>>43123180
>black pantsu
>kawaii
no
>>43123176
That does seem like a good deal. Is there any drawbacks to it being the tablet version?
>>43123243
They're about half a pound heavier
>>43123176
That has the worst processor the x201 can possibly come with, I'd look for a better one
>>43113341
I'm choosing between the x220 and T420s too, as far as I can tell I'm leaning towards the x220 only because of the battery life.
>tfw no x201 tablet
Is the tablet function useful at all or should I just stick to conventional laptops?
>>43123696
It's useful if you like to draw furry shit.
>>43123142
>drop hinges
>grey
>one button trackpad with trackpoint buttons shoved into firmware
>lack of lid latches
>built in batteries
>soldered memory
Is there decent support for Nvidia Optimus on GNU+Linux? Some time back there was bumblebee, is that still a thing? Does it work now?
>>43123704
My artistic ability is lacking.
Does it have any other uses?
>>43123768
Not really, no.
>>43123768
It makes win8, gnome, and unity very nice to work with.
>>43123768
nice ips/affs screen compared to their shit tn counter part
>>43123768
*shrug* I use it for marking up and signing documents.
>>43123768
He lied, it's not even good for drawing furry shit. The digitizer is crap and the screen edges are useless.
Lelnovo tablets a shit. Convertible cloud terminals are the future. A hundred years from now we will walk up to a public station and grab a google chrometab running a proprietary google OS to check our Freedomnet™-enabled facebook accounts.
The keyboard unit will be an extra credit. And they will explode if you try to install free software.
Don't be a luddite, get modern today!
>>43123768
Watching movies in tablet mode is nice
I think I'm stuck between the x220 and the x201 now. I honestly haven't been able to find anyone else that says the x220 is shit, in fact it seems most everyone loves it. What would you all say the upper limit for pricepoint on these two models is?
>>43123986
Watching movies in frame mode is nicer.
Laying down, and putting the laptop on your chest with the screen turned around is some imax level shit
>>43123768
You can flip the screen around and wave it over your head, showing the entire world your gay wolf porn framed in a black plastic border.
Then you can drop it and buy a 15" Retina Macbook Pro
>>43123997
The x220 is objectively worse than the x201 in every way but the processor, ask anyone
If you need the extra power for games or something go for the x220, otherwise get the x201, it's cheaper and better
>What would you all say the upper limit for pricepoint on these two models is?
x201 - $200
x220 - $300
>>43123969
>walk into a random plaza
>put on a mask
>grab a tablet
>draw furry shit and throw it at someone
>the face identification system kicks in and recognizes whoever catches the tablet as the artist
>it's automatically uploaded to facebook
>repeat
>continue even after cops come
>>43124025
$200 for the UPPER limit of the x201? Where are you finding these anywhere this cheap? Looking at ebay they seem to start higher than $200 for the cheapest ones.
>>43124073
quick scanning and Im seeing a bunch at buy it now $199 with free shipping. everything but the os is included. Thats just the BIN prices too, if you bid then it will be way under $200
What's with everyone jumping on the loli haet ThinkPads bandwagon?
>>43114419
It gets toasty because you use linux
>>43124130
Seems like to be $200 it has to be somewhat damaged or beat up, which isn't what I'm looking for.
These two seem decent: http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Lenovo-ThinkPad-X201-12-1-Laptop-Core-i5-540M-2-53GHz-2GB-320GB-w-Win-7-Pro-x64-/141351023900?pt=Laptops_Nov05&hash=item20e92d751c&_uhb=1
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Lenovo-X220-i5-2520M-4GB-320GB-Windows-7-Pro-Webcam-4290-W3W-/191250751921?pt=Laptops_Nov05&hash=item2c876ee1b1&_uhb=1
>>43110270
>no shimapan
get >>>/out/
>>43117135
Well, now my temps are in the low 70s to low 80s range.
I guess I don't know. It varies.
My ac was fixed, but it wasn't like this at other times without it, so I don't know.
>>43123142
>just as good
No. Fuck you.
>>43124272
Anybody have any thoughts on these?
>>43124073
You seem to be right that they're aren't any decent priced x201's at the moment for some reason, you can usually find many good ones for <$200 but right now the only ones <$200 have something wrong with them
Maybe wait a bit?
>>43124362
I would just buy another mobo on ebay. they're like $15~25 bucks. I had the same problem with my t400 ati heating up like crazy. Tried everything, from repasting to undervolting to making the fan run 100%, and buying a copper shim for the gpu. shit still ran hot as fuck. Got fed up and i got another mobo on ebay
>>43124521
Well it has to arrive in Canada before August 26th or I won't be able to use ebay, hopefully better ones show up soon :/
>>43124530
Please forgive me, but I've forgotten what the mobo is.
It's the GPU, right?
>>43124589
Motherboard. The thing the GPU plugs into
>>43124676
Oh. I'll just try to use it in cold environments for now.
I'm going to uni in less than a month and don't really want to go through the trouble right now.
I wouldn't even know a reputable seller and how I should pick out a motherboard really.
It's possible I could get a worse one anyways.
Does anyone have more pics of thinkpads with panties?.....please
>>43124749
/g/ pls go
>>43122307
Man, the time difference doesn't help at all. It's 12.00 here now.
Sadly the batteries of my point and shoot just died so I can't take pics right now. My phone has a potato camera (pic related) Should be charged in a couple of hours.
I can post some old pics but a couple of connections have been redone since then to cut down the size and to replace the smd cap I broke while filing the board down. I think it would help other anons a fair deal if you updated the board modding page to mention the size constraints in more detail, preferably at the point the board is as bare as it gets. Other than that it's great really.
X220 owner here, still running windoze, haven't bothered to try to into linux since my last experiment with installing OpenSUSE on an eMachines D725, which ended in vain since I couldn't get anything to work to my liking, couldn't even load websites without getting disconnected (this was with wired ethernet)
What exactly does it mean by "Thinkpads have good linux compatibility"? Does this mean that all my stuff like wifi drivers will work with linux right out of the box without need for manually installing drivers?
I'm planning to get an mSATA SSD for my X220 some time in the future and install #! on it, and I don't want to have to fiddle with shit just to get it working right, I want it to just werk so I can start fiddling with how the god damn file system works, and then get to ricing or something.
>>43125006
(cont.)
I'll recheck the solder joints now. There were some sketchy places but I think I fixed them up well enough. As for the voltages, I only have a shitty $1 chink DMM on me at the moment but it should do fine for troubleshooting.
>>43125006
>I think it would help other anons a fair deal if you updated the board modding page to mention the size constraints in more detail, preferably at the point the board is as bare as it gets. Other than that it's great really.
Yeah. I winced when I realized there was a millimeter that needed to go to fit it into the non-tablet. I had tested all the board builds on bare motherboards, and the Tablet had tons of space-- didn't check the X61regular clearnces carefully enough until it was time to take pics.
>>43125140
Shitty DMM will do fine. Unfortunately, I need to go out the door, won't be back for a few hours. But I'll check in then.
>>43125179
>won't be back for a few hours.
That's perfect actually. I'll probably have my camera up and running by then.
>>43125098
seems like linux might be outside your comfort zone kid. crunchbang and debian don't have proprietary drivers, which means you're more than likely going to have to manually install wifi drivers. stuff like mint and ubuntu usually work out of the box though, and you can install openbox on them so you can look super cool with your anime wallpaper!!!
>>43125226
>mint
>jewbuntu
Sounds like the kind of thing /g/ would laugh at me for using.
It's not outside my comfort zone - I just get frustrated every time I try to do something and it doesn't work, and I can't be arsed to find the solution for it after.
>>43125243
You're going to run into a lot of scenarios where stuff just doesn't work. If you base your OS on what /g/ likes you're gonna have a bad time.
>>43125243
>caring what /g/ thinks
if /g/ really knew as much about linux as they want you to think, they would realize that distros such as arch or gentoo offer nothing over ubuntu and its derivatives. go with xubuntu if you're too scared of "bloat" on your $200 processor and 500GB hdd
>>43125226
pretty sure at leat #! comes with non-free ootb
>>43125284
/g/ likes broken stuff?
>>43125295
it didn't last time I used it, but that was a few years ago
>>43125323
No, I'm just saying that when you're setting up the more hands on distros there will often be times where you try something and it doesn't work. Once you get them set up they're great distros and I personally enjoy the troubleshooting but just because the majority of the people here feel the need to prove themselves with their leet hacking skills doesn't mean you should feel bad about using whatever distro or even OS you want.
is 45c ok temp? x230 -- i5-3320m, running memtest86+
i5 x220 with 4gb of ram
work issue. only really use it at work. use a surface pro at home
>>43125987
That picture is meant to be a joke, right?
>>43126155
nope.
can someone answer my question?
yuropoor here.
bought myself a 400 euro asus laptop but its slow as fuck and keeps overheating and being loud, so i want to get rid of it. how is the thinkpad market in europe? are there as many offers as in US?
Friend recently dropped of an i Series 1171. Not sure what to do with it except use it as a door stop for the time being.
Are there any easymode distros with good ricing capabilities?
>>43125344
So, they're good only if I take the time and effort to actually MAKE them work...?
>>43126273
You can take discomfort in the fact that it's part of the line manufactured by Acer
>>43126312
Take Arch for instance. Once you get through the fairly long install process (which I actually recommend you do sometime, teaches you a lot about linux) you're greeted by a blinking terminal. No GUI, no preinstalled apps. Anything you want you need to get yourself. For a lot of people, including me, this is great because I WANT to choose everything I use. However for a first time linux user who doesn't sound too into doing stuff the hard way I really don't recommend it. Also you mentioned Crunchbang which I haven't used myself but it basically comes prericed.
>>43126440
Seriously? But this thing still runs after 14 years. That's impossible!
>>43126592
Yeah. #! is basically a pre-riced Debian Stable from what I've heard.
Are there any other distros that are pre-riced out of the box?
>>43126647
No clue, I started with Arch
>>43125179
took a bunch of photos, uploading them right now. With my shitty 50kbps upload it takes some time.
>>43126749
and there you go!
https://mediacru.sh/dcd9dd5946b8
>>43120544
You can open the bezel up and tighten them. Also the screws on the back of the laptop. That's how I remedied a shaky X220 screen. Three years on and as solid as ever.
> All these faggots hating on the X220
What, it got too popular and now you have to hate it? Sure is hipster around here
Could anyone with experience with Hackintosh tell me if it would be a good idea to install Snow Leopard (Mac OS 10.6.8) on a T400?
Snow Leopard is my favorite operating system and I prefer it to Linux (which I have been using for 2 years on this laptop), but if it's going to run like shit I'm not going to bother with it.
>>43125339
It has it now, confirmed when I last used it a couple of months ago.
>>43126647
Archbang and Manjaro from what I remember are pre-riced.
>>43127956
Last time I checked 3 people encouraged me to get the x220, now it's all
>you appear to be lost, this is a thinkpad thread
But I digress. Loving my x220.
>>43128293
That's why I'm really confused. In general, /g/ was always shilling the X220 but now everyone and their mom seems to hate it. Thinking of getting one anyway because it suits my needs, fuck these hipsters.
>>43128384
x220 is the last one worth buying. nobody on /g/ will dispute that without trolling. the x200 was more archetypal of the thinkpad series which is the only reason people half-jokingly bash on the x220.
>>43123696
If you ever want to read ebooks the tablet mode is handy.
>>43128442
I know the display on the X220 is ass, but is it true that it has a worse keyboard and build quality?
>>43128729
Yes, the keyboard especially
>>43128760
Could you elaborate as to why or how they're worse?
>>43128442
>nobody on /g/ will dispute that without trolling
I will, x201 is the last 16:10 one which makes it the last one worth buying
>>43128729
it's probably negligible unless you're an autist but you have to consider that they were a lot cheaper than the previous models when new and also more compact. you're probably going to sacrifice some build quality. the keyboard is fine.
>>43128729
It really depends on how far you're willing to take it. The manufacturers of the keyboards didn't change. But the heat concerning the double height escape and delete keys is the major pivot. Although a the key shape and gap change may be a point of debate.
It is however certain that such a point was when the type of plastic used was changed. The previous iterations took longer to show wear. Although I recall the lead designer spinning this change in plastic to indicate the individual user's habits.
>>43128729
Insert was shifted to the left, to make room for a double height Delete. Esc is also double height, but now it is in the correct position. A hit and a miss, if this is good or bad, that's your call.
whats the deal about thinkpads? is it only because the compatibility with lunix? if you had 1500eur would you still buy a thinkpad? what about those new ultrabooks with bling bling cases, infinite power, and lightweight?
>>43126836
>https://mediacru.sh/dcd9dd5946b8
I think the 2N7000 is wired backwards. Source goes to ground, drain to the diode.
>>43120795
lel, junior high math tier
>>43128827
gnu + loonix
KEYBOARD on the 2012 and previous models
cheap on the used market thanks to corporate popularity
durable
easily repairable/upgradeable
that being said, if I had infinite money I would probably own a Dell XPS 13 developer edition
>>43128827
If I had 1500eur I would buy a thinkpad and then spend the other 1300 on something I wanted other than a laptop.
>>43128827
People here worship them because they're durable, have trackpoints, and are cheap. They're pretty unremarkable in terms of features, but they're solid enough.
>if you had 1500eur would you still buy a thinkpad?
I would buy a cheap one and spend the rest of the money on something I cared about more than a laptop, but if that money had to be spent on a laptop I would probably just buy a macbook pro
>>43128876
this
>>43128836
holy shit, I do believe you're right. lel, I distinctly remember double checking the pinout and being disappointed that the flat side was up and not down. Figures.
Well at least it a relatively easy fix.
>>43128781
>>43128795
>>43128803
Thanks /g/ents, I know I can switch the display to a decent one and as long as the thinkpad itself won't fall apart It'll be a worth it.
What is the opinion on a x201T ?
>>43128836
>>43128989
flipped the fet and guess what - dimming still doesn't work! On the upside, lowering brightness no longer blinks the leds, now it does the same thing as increasing brightness, i.e. nothing.
Judging from the brightness and heat, it's stuck on 100%
Even tried booting into windows and gnu/linux, still nothing. The brightness indicator works but the actual brightness doesn't change.
>>43129572
what's the voltage on the cathode of the diode as you increase/decrease brightness?
>>43129675
[this might be easier if you pop into IRC on Rizon... might as well use #diy]
>>43128857
>>43128876
>>43128883
You can't compare a 200€ laptop with one of >500€. When I bought my ultrabook for some months ago, for less than 900€ you couldn't get a FHD screen.
How do you use a 200€ laptop? VMs, Eclipse, ST with multiple opened files, multiple browsers with multiple tabs, music, several random open apps...
I Would never get a MBP. And the Dell XPS13 was my second option, my third was the Samsung L9. I end up buying an Asus Zenbook.
>>43130011
Thinkpads with 1440x1050, 1600x1200, 1680x1050 and 1920x1200 displays are common and inexpensive.
If I was to get an x200, what sort of upgrades would be recommended?
Has anyone tried making a NiMH battery for a ThinkPad?
>>43130027
What is "inexpensive". IIRC, the only Lenovo I saw with similar specs to my laptop was one that costed around 1700€
>>43130211
every computer can benefit most from an SSD and either get one with at least 4gb ram or max the ram. also any old laptop will benefit greatly from a new battery.
>>43130211
ac wireless
ssd
max ram
better screen
expresscard usb 3.0
>>43130283
>>43130367
Cheers.
>>43130219
Well I bought my T60p for $150 on Amazon a few months ago, and I apparently overpaid, and it has a 1680x1050 display.
>>43114419
best TP form factor there is was or will be
>>43130011
>You can't compare a 200€ laptop with one of >500€
For what I do, I can. One is good enough, and another is way more than I need in a laptop.
>>43130967
>>43130011
The thing is a used Thinkpad isn't a cheap laptop, it's a very expensive laptop that is bought old and second hand.
For instance with the T6x you're paying a hundred bucks for a product that some guy seven years ago paid two or three thousand dollars for. Over time HDs get too small, processors get too slow but build quality is build quality.
A big part of this is that it seems like CPU, RAM and HDs become obsolete a LOT slower these days. Is a Core 2 Duo, 3GB of RAM and 160GB of storage bad? A little bit. But it's not a 386 with 640k, you know what I mean? Hardware from the last couple generations lasts ridiculously long and I'm not entirely sure why.
Thoughts on Amazon vs Ebay for ordering used? Does one have any more risk of getting something not like advertised than the other?
>>43112056
I'm selling one
Buy it goyims
>>43131087
>Hardware from the last couple generations lasts ridiculously long and I'm not entirely sure why.
It's been decided that the masses shouldnt own processing power anymore. Computation power is moving in to the cloud instead, where anyone other than us controls it.
They can't just raid houses to confiscate cpus and gpus, so generally available processing power is being phased out by drying up advances on the consumer side and dumping everything in to "cloud".
>>43131218
Or because everything is already fast enough, so now all progress is being made into making them more efficient...
>>43131309
>everything is already fast enough
gubmint shills please go
>>43131309
>>43131218
There is no competition, and we're starting to hit physical limits. Progress is slowing, the free lunch is over and software authors are not taking extra free computer power for granted.
What does the switch near the disk drive of the t420 with the lock symbol do? My switch I noticed somehow fell into the computer but it doesn't seem to be affecting anything.
how did I do /g/? I had no idea what I was doing, I am still using an old acer aspire 5810tz-4657 so I think this will be a step up. Any recommendations?
i just bough that. if the latch need a replacement im just going to do it. also the cpu is good. and i can fix pretty much anything . i think its a good deal
http://www.ebay.com/itm/ThinkPad-X201-tablet-i7-L640-4GB-160GB-1280x800-12-1-Cam-Win-7-Battery-Charger-/141280368421?pt=Laptops_Nov05&hash=item20e4f75725
