Have you installed arch today?
I never managed to find the original image. Always either cropped or color boosted or recompressed anyway. Anyone has?
Is there any reason to install Arch when you can install Mandingo?
>>42825709
nope, who wants to install shitnux without an installer. only retards would install such a time waster distro
>>42825887
>time waster
If you know what you're doing, an arch
install only takes like 15-20 mins. Plus subtract time for the fact that it's a rolling release, so you never have to reinstall again.
>>42826048
>15-20 mins
probably boots you to the console and nothing more.
whats mkinitcpio
ismkinitcpio -p linux
something I must do, cause I am in cli and all seems to be working and I never did it
>>42826157
installing/updating linux (the kernel package) will run that automatically
Yep on my laptop. Which desktop does /g/ recommend?
A week ago, actually. It's been fun thus far.
CRUX is the real deal. Arch is nothing but a cheap clone.
>>42826261
arch is older than crux
What now?
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/beginners%27_guide
and
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Installation_guide
are all nice and shit
but some nice follow up, would be welcomed
'cause it seems like I am now suppose to jump from topic to topic
wiki authors expecting me to know what I need to set up
Not today, but I did at one point.
>>42826389
Create your user https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/General_recommendations#System_administration
Install X, display drivers and some DE/DE https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/General_recommendations#Graphical_user_interface
I actually did today, twice. Once on desktop which failed then decided to try on laptop which was succesful. Windows identifies the desktops mobo as bios not uefi and I was trying to do an install for a uefi board so I guess that could be the problem. I've got to do the post installation stuff for the first time sometime today.
>>42826048
>so you never have to reinstall again.
>>42825709
August's install is still going well, OP.
I put NixOS on a testbox to see about the hype tho.
>>42825879
Mangaroo. Only reason I can rationalize for installing Arch versus this, is le bloat.
nah,
Installed Manjaro Openbox with AUR enabled on old laptop.
Pic related
Pretty much the same thing, despite what archnazis claim
I did OP,
After installing it I looked at it for a few minutes and cleaned drive, installed openbsd right away after that :^)
>>42827777
If you dont mind being in manjaro botnet...
it sure is alright when the hard stuff is done by arch and arch community
All they do is install it nicely with preset stuff and botnet and delay packages few days
The worst thing is the main guy in manjaro
He is fucking batshit crazy idiot that claims next version will be based on windows and osx
and that that manjaro team of 9 people is stabilizing and optimizing 12,000+ packages for manjaro...
fucking hell
>>42825709
If anyone wants to install Arch in a piss easy fashion use this:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/evolutionlinux/
It's literally the installer for Manjaro, but it's pointed at the Arch Repos. The great thing about it is, you burn it once and it always installs the latest version of Arch. Have fun.
>>42827836
just use script
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLh44czUea0
https://github.com/helmuthdu/aui
Is that a young Stephanie McMahon?
>>42827826
3/10 - your trolling needs improvin'
NB - The crazy guy you mention is Allan McRae, arch developer, not Philip Müller of Manjaro.
Happy to help.
>>42827826
>using term botnet
GTFO faggot
I don't know about Arch being good, but I do know it teaches you a lot, it's nice to have an understanding of the things you set up in your OS and an appreciation for what each part does so when you see something running you know what it's doing rather than just doing a vanilla GNU/linux install and seeing tons of things that you have no idea what they do.
>>42827874
>>42827891
believe what you want
>Philip Müller, was interviewed on a podcast about Manjaro and in the interview he said they were going to drop Arch as a base and do some weird Windows/Mac hybrid. So because of this excalibur1234 made a thread that resulted with 14 pages of debates and confusion only to end with no actual answer. The follow up video Philip Müller made explained absolutely nothing and even made it more confusing.
http://manjaro.org/2013/09/21/frostcast-interview-with-philip-muller/
https://forum.manjaro.org/index.php?topic=7056.0
>>42827826
>9 people is stabilizing and optimizing 12,000+ packages for manjaro...
Why is this an issue? If they did nothing at all, it is the same thing as updating your Arch install a couple of days after an update is released. The Arch wiki even suggests holding back on an update if you use your machine for anything important, just as a precaution.
>>42827898
Issue is with the claim that they do that.
Its obvious they dont and cant.
>>42827865
The Evo-Lution installer is actually easier.
>>42827914
But I am guessing you have less preferences
>>42827896
>Post year old shit like it matters today
>2014 - Arch and Manjaro still exist fine
>Prefers character assassination over objective facts
>Denies that Allan McRae isn't mental (pic related)
>>42827909
>Implying there aren't ridiculous claims made on both sides, i.e. Ellen McCunt.
http://allanmcrae.com/2013/01/manjaro-linux-ignoring-security-for-stability/
Some serious straw grasping going on here.
>>42827923
Si.But it is Arch and as we all know, anything you don't like is easily remedied.
ITT Archtards fighting Archtards
pic related
>>42827941
>Prefers character assassination over objective facts
Its fact that he said it.
Its fact that no rational person would said that.
>>42827959
can you quote whats the issue there?
I read 3 paragraphs and I think I know where its heading...
>I used Arch for two years and it was perfectly fine until one day when I updated and it broke my system. Now I have been using Manjaro for a month and it is completely stable.
Well is he wrong that theres something stupid about statements like that?
>>42828004
Yes
>>42828054
so, can you quote whats your issue there?
>>42827826
or could just use arch bang. not bloated at all and just works. just turn it into arch.
>>42828078
so, can you quote what your issue there?
>>42828004
>Well is he wrong that theres something stupid about statements like that?
Yes. For example, if you are running Arch and let's say you went away on a vacation, you come back and see you missed an update 6 days ago. Are you now running Manjaro? Is your system going to crash and burn? That retard is portraying ARCH to be the piece of shit with his attempts to slander Manjaro. Manjaro is nothing but Arch with some crap weeded out of it's repos.
>>42828078
My issue is that you are obviously someone who enjoy sucking Allan McRae's kernel
>>42828151
Well, so you link an article
you complain about it
and when asked, you are unable to tell us what are you complaining about specifically
you go girl
>>42828078
My quote is ten dollar.
>>42828184
I use Arch, I don't have to justify my criticism of other people.
>>42827300
>that cut off skype icon
fix it nigga. it looks disgusting.
>>42828184
Article speaks for itself
>>42825709
No I have a life
>>42825709
does gentoo count as arch?
No, I'm using Debian GNU (plus Linux).
>>42826077
Sudo pacman -S xorg-server
Sudo pacman -S @lxde
>doesn't know how to install his own desktop environment.
>>42826231
Gentoo always
>>42828732
>maybe he's not an elitist internet hipster like you
pic related
>>42828811
Does arch have a gentoo installer?
I don't know what distro to get for my first
>>42829073
windows
>>42829073
>you want to learn
archlinux, but first install few times in virtual box, by guide or by script
>you want to just use os to get shit done
linux mint
>>42829073
The answer is always Debian. No exceptions.
>>42829158
My first arch install was on my laptop. I literally had no education on linux before installing.
>>42829225
if you want to experience linux how it was 3 years ago
fuck debian with its old packages
>>42827680
never
>>42829303
>I don't know what Stable is for.
>What are backports?
>What is Sid?
Disgusting
>>42828956
>installing programs on a computer
>elitist
Go back to your iMats and chromeboots
>>42829504
I will.
Thank for confirming archfa/g/s are dicks
>>42829504
>>42829970
pic related
as true today as since the dawn of time
>>42826157
You only need to do that if you edited mkinitcpio.conf (which you need to do of you use lvm, dm-crypt, etc)
>>4282570
Yesterday, actually.
im gonna have to do that for a while mainly to tick off my aunt who hates people not using windows cause she thinks its stealing
Installing Crunchbang on my main PC. Quite excited to get rid of xubuntu and windows.
>>42828732
just curiousn what does the @ do? i have never used it
>>42830139
That comics is partialy true
at around 6th panel where he dumps books on the poor guy
Arch really helps everyone better know linux
you dont need no books and shit, you need arch wiki and youtube
wiki tells everything and youtube videos about how to install and setup
can help some with attention deficit disorder who cant follow wiki
I used mint and open suse, I barely new what a fucking fstab is before I started to use arch
with other distros it feels like I am learning their DE (cinnamon/kde)
with arch it feels like i am learning linux
>>42830410
pic related
>>42825709
I already did a few days ago on my desktop and over a year ago on my laptop.
So what's this systemd shit that people keep talking about, I installed arch successfully for the first time today and in the post install configuration stages, the guide on the wiki was okay, but parts weren't working for instance trying to get a system daemon running was giving a command not found, so I google and found I had to use system d to launch it which was actually much easier and didn't require any config file editing.
>>42831569
systemd is nice
it's just different, and more integrated than some would like
for those who don't give a fuck about technical details and just want their system to werk, systemd is great
No reason to. I use debian. I prefer stability. Although Arch does have a sexy repo system
>>42832072
if you haven't tried arch for a few years (or ever), you should try it again
debian "stable" is a bit misleading imo, it doesn't really mean anything that uses newer packages is automatically more prone to crashing
debians' use of stability is practically on the "paranoia" side of the scale, in my experience
been using the same arch install for over 2 years with minimal hiccoughs, it takes less effort to maintain arch than it does to say, do a dist-upgrade every 6months in ubuntu
i'd only use debian if i needed something i could ignore for years at a time without having to worry about it, for a desktop i use constantly, that level of stability is simply not a concern
>>42832159
true. I'm behind wireless so never bothered to install or try to install arch. I have used manjaro though. I do love pacman. I had an x org issue on first update. But when I did -Syuu instead of -Syu. It was fine
The point of Arch is so you don't have to reinstall ever.
So no, I haven't.
>>42830432
so true
I'm but a casual windows fag
>>42830432
Wait, pacman still hasn't got package signing?
>>42832462
Package signing is too mainstream.
>>42832480
Why be mainstream when you can be hipster
>>42832185
i've been using linux as my main os since 2009, and for the first couple years it was with debian based systems (pretty much just debian and ubuntu), i also used gentoo for almost a year, but arch was the first time i felt like *not* going back to debian based distros
at first glance you'd expect it to be, well, unstable... what with things updating pretty much as soon as each package claims to be at a new stable version, no formal releases (rolling), and the aur being comprised of things anyone can throw together.. somehow it *works*
the package manager is sensible, simple, and fast as shit. the repos, including the aur, contain *damn near everything* (i honestly can't stand the idea of not having the aur available anymore), packages are compiled with everything you'd need, and less common things split off as optional packages
basically it's exactly how i want desktop linux to be, i don't expect it'll be suitable for everyone, but i'd say any experienced linux user (that is, people who are capable to overcoming small issues as they happen) should really give arch a shot
ignore the shit it gets from /g/ (you wouldn't be silly enough to take that kind of stuff seriously, would you?) i first heard about arch from a friend who was running it, so i wasn't initially put off for that reason
>>42832462
It does, but people like to spread misinformation to make themselves feel better about their inferior distro.
Yes, yes, I have.
>>42832185
oh yea, if you have trouble getting onto wireless from the arch cd, you can also do an install without the cd
just grab the "bootstrap" tar file (should be alongside the isos in arch mirrors), and extract that into a prepared root partition, this'll give you the equivalant of using pacstrap from the arch cd
then just chroot into that and continue setting it up (bootloader, set root pw, install more packages, etc)
>>42832243
mirin hard, how'd you get the terminal to look like that
>>42832849
zsh + oh my zsh
I just edited the colors on the agnoster theme.
>>42832861
thanks m8, have a background in return
>>42832498
What are the major differences between Gentoo and Arch? I'm adding an SSD to my build soon and I figured I'd distro hop while I'm at it, especially with the recent systemd mess.
>>42833016
Arch: binary packages. Systemd
Gentoo: source based packages, openrc (possibility for systemd)
>>42833016
gentoo's pretty nice overall
it's a source based distro, so packages are compiled on install, while arch uses precompiled binary packages
with that gentoo has the advantage of having packages configurable down to every tiny detail (by means of USE flags), but at the cost of more time to do to compiling
tbh, unless you were making a very specific embedded-type system, or were someone who uses custom patches often, compiling your own software typically has no real benefits
try gentoo if the idea sounds interesting, but otherwise don't worry about it
>>42833063
What about the installation?
I've heard that setting up wireless in a new Arch install is a headache, although that might have changed by now.
>>42833214
installation is not a hugely different, both involve dumping a basic rootfs onto a partition and configuring it from there
setting up wireless on arch shouldn't be any different from other minimal systems like debian netinst
>>42833214
Arch's wifi-menu worked out of the box on 2 laptops for me (acer & thinkpad). Also the arch wiki has a good explanation on wireless settings. It's not thathard. And as a last resort you could use a gui program for it like wicd/networkmanager.
Guys.... I just want to interject...
>>42825709
no because it won't boot from USB on my macbook pro
>using arch botnet instead of freedom respecting gentoo
>>42825709
>All that skin cancer
RIP in peace grill ;_;
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how to make log in automatically in cinammon desktop environment in arch ?
No, because Debian doesn't break every day :^)
In this moment I'm euphoric, not because some phony installer's handholding but because I'm enlightened by my intelligence at copypasting commands from a wiki
>>42836003
#REKT AS FUCK
Arch gettin' BTFO.
>>42835388
>how do I made firefox log me in for me?
your desktop is just a window manager and some programs. you need a login manager to login automatically
>>42825709
I'm amazed he's allowed anywhere near him
