Daily reminder that there is literally no reason to use Linux on a desktop. Linux is a server OS and anyone running Linux on their desktop is either 12 years old or an unemployed loser. It literally does nothing that Windows can't do better right out of the box. Enjoy your hobby OS, nerds!
>>42640454
Thanks, I will.
y-you too
>>42640454
I'm an unemployed loser.
I'll enjoy my hobby OS.
I'm a nerd.
>>42640454
Can windows even do pseudo-fileystems? DokenFS is dead, and even when it wasn't it was almost total shite.
I use windows too OP. These threads do more harm to Microsofts image than good.
Linux is for people:
Smart enough to realize that windows is shit
Mature enough to live without video games
And too poor to buy macs
"If I ever needed office or photoshop or whatever I'd just buy a mac, windows a shit" - every linux user ever
>>42640454
> Linux is a server OS
Linux is not an operating system.
The original meaning of the word "shell" was a interface layer between the core Unix system and the user. I now consider Emacs my shell, and I try to replace interactive use of rc, bash or other traditional Unix shells with interactive use of Emacs whenever practical. E.g., to escape from the hassle described below caused by equal signs in Youtube URLs, I defined an Emacs Lisp function M-x youtube-dl so that I no longer need to use a Unix shell to interact with the command-line program youtube-dl. (This works for me because 99.9 percent of my interactions with rc are through Emacs. Consequently, I do not need to switch from Terminal.app to Emacs.app to type M-x youtube-dl because Emacs.app already has the focus even when I am interacting with rc, and Terminal.app is not even running most of the time on my system.) I tend to define new commands and wrap/redefine existing commands like ls a lot, which of course means writing some code. Consequently, the list below includes problems I encountered (in bash and in rc) in writing and maintaining code that defines new interactive commands and defines wrappers around existing interactive commands. (My .rcrc file -- which is rc's analog to .bash_profile and .bashrc -- is currently 704 lines long and contains 112 definitions of rc functions, but about half of those 112 are "of historical interest only". I.e., maybe I should have deleted most of them by now.) Here starts the list. Backslash does not quote the next character in rc like it does in bash. Consequently, to refer to a file name with space in it, you have to do it 'like this' rather than like\ this.
I'm an unemployed loser.
I'll enjoy my hobby OS.
I'm a nerd.
I DO NOT GET MONITORED BY NSA/MOSSAD/GCHQ
I USUALLY BLAME THE REPTILIAN QUEEN EL LIZARD BETH FOR THE INEQUALITIES IN THIS WORLD
GAS YOURSELF OP
>>42640454
When you are no longer any use in IT you can always argue about operating systems and whether it's Linux or GNU/Linux, casually insinuating that you have used vi or emacs.
>>42640454
>>42640454
don't feed the troll.
I needed to remove a string of characters from the end of every line of a next file. It was like hsj63g-hsha75. In Linux I just opened up my handy dandy terminal emulator and didsed -e 's/[a-z0-9]*-[a-z0-9]*//g'
How would I even do this on wangblows without some convulted GUI. That's just one normal everyday example.
>>42640752
>"If I ever needed office or photoshop or whatever I'd just use libreoffice or gimp or whatever - every gnu/linux user ever
>>42640752
> "If I ever needed office or photoshop or whatever I'd just dualboot or virtualize" - every linux user ever
FTFY
Backslash does not quote the next character in rc like it does in bash. Consequently, to refer to a file name with space in it, you have to do it 'like this' rather than like\ this. Unfortunately, all the softwares I am aware of that do tab completion of file names quote spaces and pound signs like\ this, which makes it tedious in rc commandlines to type file names with spaces and pound signs in them. This has been for me the biggest disadvantage of rc relative to other shells. It has been especially painful OS X where spaces in file names are not rare, but even on linux it was painful for me to specify file names like #long_name_here# which Emacs was in the habit of leaving around until I figured out how to get it to stop doing that. Parenthetically, I ran into the same basic problem with all the Plan-9 and Plan-9-inspired software I tried to embrace (e.g., Wily, Acme via plan9port): namely, although the design decisions work okay for people who use only Plan 9, the mismatch between the Plan 9 way of doing things and the OS X or Linux way of doing things makes it unworthwhile to use a Plan-9-inspired tool or a tool ported from Plan 9 on OS X or Linux. E.g., on Plan 9, file-name completion via the tab key is simply unavailable, which works on Plan 9 because everyone including the providers of the basic system keeps path names nice and short. In bash et al, you can have an equal sign in a file name or a URL without needing to quote it. In contrast, in rc, you need to quote it. this is a hassle for me since youtube URLs have equal signs in them, and I am in the habit of pasting them into shell commandlines a lot. The thing I like most about rc relative to bash is that a function definition begins with the characters "fn foo" where "foo" is the name of the funs definitions. In other words, in bthe starwhereasn fowhich is to type.
>>42640752
>"If I ever needed office or photoshop or whatever I'd just buy a mac, windows a shit" - every mac shill that's never touched linux ever
>>42640454
Bait thread...
>>42640848
>mfw someone took the time to write all this while forgetting that linux has no games, thus negating everything written
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HD6nqQrJx78
>>42640454
>I have 4 kids, they all want their own computer, but I don't have the money or the space to get them each their own,
>Instead I get one computer, with 4 monitors, 4 keyboards, and 4 mice. now they can all use the same computer at the same time.
>>42640855
You'd have to install some shady program written just for that specific purpose, and you'd get a bunch of toolbars gratis.
>>42640889
that was such an epic comeback, i found a bucket of cod inside my computer
Nice thread NSA
>>42640752
>Mature enough to live without video games
Is that your dad talking?
What do you do instead?
>>42640889
new PC games aren't worth playing in most of the cases though
>>42640454
>not having three computers at your desktop running osx, windows, and gentoo as well as a home server
remind me what year is it?
>>42640894
>having 4 kids without the money to care for them
>>42640894
>Are you poor? Run Linux!
:^)
>>42640968
>having to use 3 separate computers with Synergy to run 3 operating systems
>hurr durr im too retarded to virtualize
>>42641002
>virtualizing
>shit desktop/graphical performance
>have to resort to shitty/hacky/experimental pci passthrough
retard
>>42640963
This. The day shitty MMO's and 3rd person shooters with weird camera focus 5 meters to the right of the character became popular, it was pretty much clear that the consoles have won and that the gaming industry was doomed forever.
The good way to tell if the game is worth playing is to test if it works in wine properly.
>>42640454
Lots of businesses are moving to ubuntu.
>>42640454
I'm installing Debian tomorrow
But it'll be alongside OS X and Windows. I don't think I could ever rely on just Linux. Muh games, muh proprietary software, muh need to actually get shit done.
>>42641076
>get shit done
>debian
why debian? that's for servers and spaceships bro
>>42640454
*feeds troll*
/g/ is the angriest board (besides /b/). People are more easy-going almost every other board.
>>42640855
>implying OP knows any regular expressions
>>42640752
> macshill
just die already fucking macfag
>>42640855
I've done something like that with batch files, but linux terminal is way better.
>anyone running Linux on their desktop is either 12 years old or an unemployed loser
Not true. If you want to learn about technology quickly use linux as desktop. Its like immersion therapy.
>does nothing that Windows can't do better right out of the box
Have you spent 2 minutes using linux? Doesn't sound like it.
>enjoy your hobby OS nerds!
I will thanks. Enjoy your shillware or whatever locked down bullshit people are fawning over now.
I'm going to deploy CentOS on my dad's business computers because Winodows is a hell to maintain.
We got a case of some variation of CryptoLocker recently, and this was on a computer with malwarebytes and avira installed and kept to date.
>>42640454
Can windows run on Power Pc. I think not.
>>42641207
>using ppc
>any year
>>42641182
do yourself a favor and use debian instead
>>42640454
mommy, why do people get mad like this?
>2014
>paying $200 for Windows 7/8
>steam runs on Linux
>photoshop
>office
linux has free as in beer and free as in freedom replacements
I know you're a troll, I just don't care
SUCK MY DIIIIIIIIIIICK!
>>42641273
because they run linux :(
>>42641279
>windows
>not free as in beer
>>42641304
>having to steal things when better free replacements exist
The only thing I can't do is use Silverlight webapps like Netflix. That's the *only* thing I can't do, but there is so much more that I *can* do, like download youtube videos to mp4's so I can watch them later at my leisure, what's buffering, bitch? I don't even care.
Maybe you butthurt faggots are angry because the command line is too scary.
>>42641304
>windows
>free as in beer
>>42641125
>If someone ever points out that OS X is the best commercially supported desktop UNIX they're a shill
>>42641341
>The only thing I can't do is use Silverlight webapps like Netflix
pipelight
https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/netflix-desktop/
>>42641304
>>42640454
I already tried Debian Wheezy and it didn't fit my purpose because it basically isn't a very viable platform to run Tryton ERP on, it also wasn't as half as stable as the Internet says it is.
PRO OR NOT
FEATURES AVAILABLE ON EVERY LINUX FROM SHELL
WINDOWS NEVER NEVER AGAIN
>>42641357
>https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/netflix-desktop/
thx anon. Though I stream it to my Linux Android Phone these days so save my desktop CPU cycles for real man's work like trolling /g/
>>42641343
>free as in beer
>>42641350
OS X is a good choice if you want to run proprietary Mac apps and have access to a commandline for some scripting and SSHing to other machines. It's not really a replacement for a Linux distro.
>>42641401
just because you can pirate does not mean it's free you dolt. you are special aren't you?
>>42640454
>It literally does nothing that Windows can't do better right out of the box.
Much better shell environment. Also, much easier to install software out of the box on most distros.
Low-latency audio is another one, at least on distros that configure it for you like Ubuntu Studio.
>>42640454
Reason number 1 to use Linux: I don't have to pay for it, or pirate it.
Reason 2: OP is a faggot
>>42640781
>i download youtube videos form my text editor
>>42641427
It may not be free but it can be obtained for free easily, in seconds with literally no repercussion. So yeah, it's "free". Nigger.
>>42641401
heh
I like not having to pay for an up-to-date system even though I have an MSDN account.
Also, scripting is much better compared to batch files. Holy fuck those suck.
I also like feeling like a hacker with the command line
>>42641451
no it isn't tyrone. no it isn't. how are quotas serving you?
>>42641450
>emacs is a text editor
lel, good show old chap
>>42641480
>my text editor has so much bloat it's not even a text editor anymore
>it still sucks for editing text
>>42641475
>Implying you don't piracy
>>42641451
>>>/!g/
http://www.zdnet.com/linux-dominates-supercomputers-as-never-before-7000030890/
neat
>>42641494
oh but i do. I'm not retarded enough to think it's a free product though, not that I give a shit.
>>42641488
It's meant to be an entire shell replacement, some people who were used to the way things were done on LISP machines love it because it works like that, and you can do a lot of work with a few keystrokes and it has a lot of pseudo-GUI shit going on like early MAC-OS stuff, but if you were learned in bash and vi from a young age... it's not really UNIX in the same way.
People can hack how they choose, a diverse ecosystem isn't a bad thing in the long run. All it means is that other people edit their files slightly differently...
>>42640949
Read a motherfucking book, asshole.
>>42640894
>Kids that can barely use Windows trying to use Linux
>>42641533
I was just trolling, you autismal fuck.
>>42640454
>It literally does nothing that Windows can't do better right out of the box
Except compile C programs. And run Python scripts. And detect and install all your needed drivers during installation. And come with office software preinstalled. And one of the best text editors in the industry. And have a competent, powerful shell.
>>42641350
anyone who thinks macs are best Unix can't into RHEL
>>42641533
Replace chords for vim-like keybiding and I'm sold.
>>42641266
dont listen to this faggot
>>42640855
You don't have to do that in OSes which are actually usable
>>42641343
literally BitLocker(R)
/g/ wasnt joking
>>42641666
someone doesn't code
it's ok anon, you can learn :3
>>42641657
>replace chords with vim-like keybinding
>replace vim
>vim
just use vim.
It's the real man's editor anyway,
>>42641546
lol what a retard
im cultured in music, books, movies and videogames
enjoy being a bitter faggot who want to believe to be mature because he happens not to like something
>>42640889
Oh, look at all those games in my LINUX Steam library!
Man, it's not like their are 40 OF THEM, and those are just the ones I bought!
>>42641793
>culture
>videogames
lel no, you can seek validation all you want, but in the end it's just a manchild hobbie (more like addiction)
>>42640454
>Windows is for normal people with normal lives
>Linux is for computer enthusiasts who are trying to get a slightly more enhanced experience
>Macs are for faggot
>simple
>>42641868
literally lmao at this illiterate fuck
see you in 20 years when videogames finally achieve the status of art and you don't know shit about them :_)
>>42641935
faggots*
>>42641940
see you in 20 years too...
if your mom let me in her house.
>>42640454
I use Linux primarily for development purposes.
Aside from that I feel much more comfortable when I use tools such as git with it because of how integrated a terminal is to a desktop environments (GQuake, Yakuake, etc).
These days though, with the release of steam and the increasing compatibilities of games through wine. I spend much more time using Linux than in Windows these days
>>42641940
>actually believing this
shit, with the crap that passes as art now a days this may actually happen
>>42642005
They've been seriously studied as an artform for more than a decade in accredited academic institutions.
Shut the fuck up. You don't have any idea what the fuck you are talking about.
https://www.google.com/search?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=Art+and+Technology&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
>>42641357
Just looked that up, and holy shit it supports the Vizzed RGR Plugin.
That I did not expect.
>>42640454
I will
Saging for stupid thread that I don't want to bump.
>>42640970
Is it bait? Or are you dumb enough to think that a computer for every child is a necessity for care.
>>42641676
Come on, VimL suck and the other languages to manipulate it suck or are severely limited.
>>42641793
>im cultured in music, books, movies and videogames
>he believe one is cultured in mediums and not about topics.
>>42641940
if videogames are a form of art, which one is a representative of them?
>>42642201
I think he is referring that on middle income level, having more than 2 kids is not financially viable.
Hell I can't even afford the diapers
>>42643203
Super Mario brothers. It's spawned so much artistic expression.
>103 posts
I'm severely disappointed in you, /g/.
>>42643295
>104
>106
>>42643602
>105
>>42643609
>108
>>42643607
>>42643618
damn it frank
>>42643654
>110
>>42643266
Maybe is a classic, but I wouldn't call it art. Sure it aesthetically pleasing and the game mechanics addictive, but there isn't any real substance to the whole world. What is more I would argue that the world of Mario only make sense if the princess is captured, as the whole world is made to be rushed on the quest to save peach.
You can literally play mario and make a before/after analysis a notice you obtained nothing. There is no meaning on the game apart from the mechanics.
Now mechanics isn't art. It's principle at least in games is based on a primitive reward system for doing a correct action, which from evolutionary stand point make sense to have but which we are purely abusing (without a bad connotation) to derive joy.
>>42640454
>implying that you have a job
unemployed/10
try harder
>>42644104
op here, you're right
also, I run Linux
lol
>>42640454
Nice bait OP.
Linux is actually easier to use for me and plays nice with my ps3 for movie streaming and watching ball games when I'm not playing video games.
Oh and guess what OP, the pnp software I use is *nix based so it doesn't have a native install with windows!
Shock of shock! A piece of software that needs to be forked to compile a static executable to work with your bloated phone tile shit OS!
http://mediatomb.cc/pages/download
http://sourceforge.net/p/mediatomb/discussion/440750/thread/255e8890
Tell me why Windows is a winner for my computing needs. I'll give you a hint, it's a loser.
>>42643175
PHP sucks even more yet people have done amazing (alternatively: horrible) things with it.
If Vimscript is the only complaint you have against Vim, then Vim's doing pretty good.
>>42640454
I'm am in fact unemployed. I'm a student.
I use Linux on all of my PCs.
>>42640454
I'll bite.
>valgrind doesn't exists on windows and it's the most fucking useful thing ever when coding
>lower ram usage for a recent distro than a recent version of windows
>all the shit I run (browser, DAW, graphics editor, 3D modeler, music player, IRC client) is cross platform anyway
>so I don't actually have any disadvantage by using Linux
>xfce is pretty nice
>only reason I keep a Windows machine around is muh games (Steam's Linux selection is shit, stop fucking posting "muh steam works on muh linux" you fucks)
>better out-of-box support (Windows does have the advantage that most things have drivers for it and not for Linux, but most distros are built with loads of fucking hardware supported that I'd need to track down a driver for to get working on a recent version Windows, also muh PS3 controllers)
Why does /g/ react to bait so badly?
Come on, the OP was too obvious.
>mfw I have a job even though my network is Linux/Plan 9
Though really, this whole setup is slowly getting disorganized and ignored. Never here to work on it. Or use it.
This sucks.
>>42644877
Because we get a righteous kick out of it even if it is bait.
>>42644900
>I have a job
>my network is Linux/Plan 9
>posts faggot gif
Post proof of your absolutely ridiculous claim that you are hire-able, and somewhat less ridiculous claim that Plan9 has ever been depended on in real life outside of Bell Labs.
Worse bait than OP.
>>42644918
I apologize for the crap quality, my phone got dunked in a pool today. A pool that used salt instead of chlorine, which destroyed it instantly presumably.
As far as actual use, Plan 9 serves as a massive AoE target for a my desktop using tools imported from 9atom
>>42644900
tfw got a boner watching this gif
>>42644951
Do you use it for work? Or personal use? I may have mistaken what you meant.
>>42640860
I'm mature enough to admit sometimes proprietary software does it better.
>>42644969
Oh, personal. However Lowes does expose employees exclusively to netbooted Linux boxes running an ancient version of OpenSUSE. The registers are literally just Linux boxes with X and a full screen virtual terminal connecting to some mysterious server
>>42640454
The people at Cern would disagree with that statement.
Here is where I see the Oses being used best
Windows:
Business Applications
Gaming
Linux:
Scientific Applications
Servers
Supercomputers
Macs:
Video and Graphics
>>42644969
>>42644987
And I mean, not just the registers, every computer we use is Linux. We mostly stay in Firefox on web applications of, but documents are done with the Open Office suite.
>>42641413
As someone considering buying mac, what can it not do? I know homebrew fixes the whole package manager issue, which makes getting command line tools much easier
Guys, I know how to fix linux fragmentation
Just stop supporting obscure things like xfce, arch, non-redhat distros, non-floating WMs, and so on. A concerted corproate effort to support only the most mainstream, viable linux configuration.
Then, with the hobbyist distros crushed, linux can finally shine
>>42644987
My last job was in retail, the cash registers were a fucking retarded system. I hated it and avoided actually selling things to customers at all costs. I actually had the idea to do exactly that, but didn't know that it was already in place somewhere. That's pretty cool man. The registers sucked so bad that I knew I could make a better system by writing a terminal program.
>>42645004
Most people I know outside of my IT classes (and some in them) don't know what Linux is.
>>42645007
Not him but from what I gather:
-gay
-good battery life
-good build quality
-shit keyboards, worse processor than my used thinkpad and less upgradeable
-proprietary as fuck
-probably good to install gentoo on
But your question was about OSX. I'm not convinced mac has any level of package management as good as the best Linux distros.
>>42645056
At least you're posting your bait in the appropriate bait thread.
>>42642031
"Art" in academia is for people who are too stupid for anything else
It doesn't take a high IQ or a useful mind by any right to go into the arts. The dumbest, worst problem solvers can make up conjecture, metaphors, and poetic descriptions any day.
There was a time when art was the past time of the bored genius. Now it's the muse of the moron who is bored because they can do nothing else, save flipping burgers.
Hitler could have actually prevented this
>>42645067
It's not bait. Hobbyists and ricers hold linux back.
>WAIT, PLS SUPPORT DEBUBUNTU
>FUCK THOSE MULTIMILLION DOLLAR REDHAT GUYS WITH AN ALREADY ESTABLISHED BUSINESS
>Companies: Ugh, fine, this is going to double development time
>enjoy your low quality software, most of our time was spent porting it to three init systems, two package formats, and making sure it worked in two dozen WMs and DEs
the only company to try to support non-RH distros to date is steam, and what the fuck do gamers know about anything? When mir lands steam is going to be royally fucked
>implying anyone who uses linux on the desktop isn't doing it to look cool or being a baby duck that's been using it too long
>"i just like it ok, it's convenient" <- typical baby duck
fact: if a linux user tried windows with an open mind they would finally break free of the vicious cycle of neckbeard
>>42645097
>xfce, arch, non-redhat distros, non-floating WMs
The non-redhat distros part is the most obvious bait I've ever seen man congrats.
As for tiling WMs, Arch and XFCE, they all have their uses outside of being a useless faggot and customizing them all day. Xubuntu is a great OS that's not going to stop being supported, so is Arch and I'm using a stock i3 WM right now.
>>42645059
>gay
okay I'm not 12, I don't actually care what people think about what I use.
>good battery life
Is it actually better than competition? I've seen comparable hours on cheaper computers
>good build quality
ya probably
>shit keyboards, worse processor
I feel like every laptop these days you are gonna get a shitty chiclet keyboard. And though the processor won't be upgradeable, any reasonably sized laptop will have that problem as well
>proprietary as fuck
ya I honestly am not the hugest fan of giving apple my money, especially since I'm not in the Apple ecosystem (android phones, tablets)
>/g/entoo
I'll probably already dualboot Windows 8.1 if I get a mbp, I'll see if its necessary to add some sort of Linux (would honestly probably be Ubuntu or Elementary or some shit)
Lets be honest, there's only one reason to install linux on a desktop
>>42645122
Most modern programs already assume you're using a floating WM instead of setting special hints for transience or making sure the window isn't being forced into a weirdly sized box.
XFCE is still lagging behind the real world, and there will come a time when its users will be seen as masochists in the same light as windowmaker users today (but worse, because windowmaker actually offers something unique).
This it the beginning of the end. Fragmentation will die. Everyone will use qt. All will become systemd, then rpm, then one and the same,
why won't this shitty thread die already?
>>42645131
The processor won't be upgradable in any laptop, but things will be soldered in in a macbook. I think you can upgrade ram, that's about it.
My theory is that the average consumer likes apple because they treat them like dumbasses, and deliver a computer which may as well be one solid piece, the user doesn't know shit about it, it's just one smooth thing that just werks somehow.
>>42645152
In i3 you can edit your config file to start certain things in floating mode always. I find it very convenient, especially with my lack of a mouse. The i3 status bar also completely makes the WM.
>>42645178
>>42645131
there's also the fact that the rMBP really has few/no competitors at this point
closest you've got is that dell mobile workstation with the 4k display, but it has bad battery life. Lenovo and a few other companies make some shitty 3k pentile display plastic shitbox laptops but those don't really compare to the mbp
>>42645233
>laptop
>4k
>lel
>>42645073
>academia tier talk
My, aren't you're a pretentious fucking shit.
>>42645073
Truly good art is never intentionally made by idiots. If you don't think applying yourself to creating a realistic oil painting stimulates the mind, then you are the idiot who's tasting sour grapes.
>>42645329
andy warhol had an iq of like 75
guy was a retard
Only pedophiles use GNU/Linux and all of its variants.
>>42645362
Yeah and his art sucked. The velvet underground wasn't any good either.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQD-dXfHrvk
>>42645073
Hitler failed out of art school.
>>42645412
Didn't he not get accepted? His art was alright, I saw some of it.
>>42641568
I casually used the C64 and the Amiga when I was like 6 years old. And in the case of the C64 you had to know the console commands to list entries on the disk or even run programs.
This is literally and figuratively so easy a child can do it. If you can't do it then I'm afraid that most children are more intelligent than you.
>>42645426
Now, you tickled my curiosity, and yeah. The first results are pretty good.
>>42645152
>lagging behind the real world
How? It's pretty much a bog standard desktop that just works.
>>42640894
wut
Explain this. How the fuck do you get four monitors working, four independent mice and keyboards?
>also, no money/space for 4 laptops even though you got four monitors, keyboards, and mice, wut
>>42645478
I would assume that people don't want stuff that works. They want stuff that looks nice and unique.
>>42645394
>The Velvet Underground wasn't any good either
pleb
>>42645152
>Fragmentation will die
It's not fragmentation, it's choice, something the vast majority of Linux users are in favour of
>Everyone will use qt
I won't
>All will become systemd
Slackware and *BSD wont
>then RPM
Nope
>Then one and the same
never. gonna. happen.
Our lord and saviour will never let his magnum opus be assimilated. Slackware will never change, no matter how many trends come and go.
>unemployed loser
>makes 110k a year as sysadmin with Ubuntu as main OS
Cry more faggot.
>Windows user going back in time to show off computer:
Well yea this his is windows and it has programs like these, look at these games and look at this office program and stuff
>Linux user going back in time to show off computer
Well, yeah, this is *everything* guys. Look over here, if you like, remember fortran and cobol and stuff? Here are modern compilers for it and a plethora of other languages, all with their own source code included free for you to study.
Here, look at this modern kernel and the amazing features it has, it runs pretty much all the supercomputers of our time and a big big chunk of the internet (which I will also explain) and other things.
Oh, and the source is right over there.
Want TCP/IP stacks? source is there.
Want this? source is there.
Want that? source is there.
Look, we even have some games like wesnoth and shit, and blender and stuff and so on and so forth, source is there, too, of course.
Office? Step right up. Source is here.
Source is always here. Come one engineer come all engineers. Get your future here!
>>42640889
How does that negate anything?
>>42645753
The minds it would blow.
Even of the people who know and have worked on Unix.
Hey, Ritchie, check this out.
>Ritchie explodes
Hey, Knuth, remember TeX? You'll laugh when you see all the shit that has grown from it.
>Knuth explodes
Hey, Torvalds, check this out.
>I knew this would happen.
>Torvalds grins and flips the bird at the world.
Hey, Stallman, check this out.
>Allow me to interject for a moment...
>>42644900
>>42644988
Macs:
Video, graphics and hipsters
>>42640752
>Mature enough to live without video games
I'll still game if I'm eighty years old.
I'm 33. Played DayZ and Cod4 yesterday.
Was awesome.
Not much time to do it lately but there is a spare hour or two every week.
Enjoy your dull and useless life.
OP is right, gnu/linux is more better for hackers and for servers because of his its own robust security and performance while in the normal desktop user things work until a certain degree
In the Desktop world, people wants to get things done as quick as possible, time is money
Like why would i exchange functionality and convenience over ''muh freedom, look i'm free of botnets and nsa'' on a fucking workstation pc
In the GNU/Linux Desktop what you can do besides the server world and open a web browser and write web coding and hacking? yes there are software alternatives from windows/mac for gnu/linux but the 90% is crap and games are very limited too but i have to give props to Steam for what they're trying to achieve
And hardware support for newer hardware is slow on GNU/Linux in distros like ubuntu for example, idk how good is in arch since they always get the latest stable kernel version on their AUR
>tl:dr: If you wanna sacrifice convenience and functionality over ''muh freedom'' and security in your desktop then use GNU/LInux faggot
>>42641035
>This. The day shitty MMO's and 3rd person shooters with weird camera focus 5 meters to the right of the character became popular, it was pretty much clear that the consoles have won and that the gaming industry was doomed forever.
You are a total idiot obviously.
>>42640940
>Nice thread NSA
Retard. Biggest botnetter is google, all of their shit is linux based.
>>42641343
>Buying retail versions from microsoft shop
>Being this retarded
>>42640855
Easy to do in powershell or vbs.
Are you retarded?
I would switch to linux, but I have two issues in my mind.
One is, I don't know if proprietary AMD drivers are good enough for everything. OSS ones give me problems (I have 3 options: let my gpu fry itself, adjust it so I have to manually switch power profiles all the freaking time or use a refresh rate of 100hz max using a 120hz monitor) so I'm kind of forced to use proprietary.
And the other one, I don't know of really, really basic video editing software that will help me with some DVDs (that ancient technology, right?)
>>42640894
Why in hell would anyone do that???
The pc alone is the cheapes part of your setup.
Many companys throw them out for free every two years, you can get 4 pcs for literally shit nothing.
>>42640454
I would actually be slightly impressed of a 12 year old capable of using GNU/Linux daily without googling the shit out of everything thing that isn't point and click
>>42640889
There's Wine, and the games I play have always ran well with that. I don't feel like I have ever missed out on a game I would've wanted to play just because I use Linux.
>>42646139
implying literally everyone doesn't just google any little issue nowadays
>200 years ago
>had to manually troubleshoot
>2014
>google for exact instructions or at least useful cues
>>42640855
How long does it take a newbie to find out how to do that?
How long does it take to find out how to do it in powershell?
Windows has a user community that is actually helpful not some virgin neckbeards that blame people for not being computer illiterate.
>>42646151
>implying literally everyone doesn't just google any little issue nowadays
>2014
>People are still too dumb to use google properly
That's why pages like lmgtfy even exist.
I work in tech support, I know my people, they use telephone before even trying to solve anything.
>>42646139
I will be disappointed if under 50% of people on here fit this profile.
OP, Windows fucking costs money
>>42640454
finally someone with a brain on /g/, linux is a time waster OS, has always been and will always be.
Enjoy your hobby neckbeards
>>42646175
I meant us, even "power users"
not retard end-users
my point was just that even non-12-year-olds are googlin like mad cunts nowadays because it just makes sense. I use Linux exclusively and I google any issue that comes up really
>>42640454
I'm sorry you wern't smart enough to install Arch Linux OP so you have to try to justify still using Windows. You better get to bed OP Summer School is starting tomorrow, have to try to treat your autism/
>>42646199
>You better get to bed OP Summer School is starting tomorrow, have to try to treat your autism/
Helpful linux users everywhere.
Taking the bait proves your autism mate.
>>42640781
Too bad it has a shit text editor...
>>42640454
it is desktop OS and it was made as one, its just used on servers because it is good for anything
>nothing better than the smell of frash bait after waking up
>>42640454
>Linux is for losers
>Hobby OS
I lol'd a little.
>>42644984
does what better?
Not fuck up your own proprietary format is not a feature
>>42646009
Manjaro is an Arch based easy-to-use distro, usong their repositories, and pretty much all new stuff works well.
Anyways, I don't see how you guys can compare "Linux" to "Windows" just like that. You have to take in consideration differences between distros when it comes to the Desktop where people don't normally modify their systems on their own.
You should be comparing certain Linux distros to Windows instead.
>>42640454
I also feel that Windows offers a much better experience.
But for anything where it's better to use command-line...
If windows ever offers something like cygwin, but native, it might kill Linux Desktop for good.
>>42646341
>Android
>Not being hobby os
Seriously?
>>42646477
>If windows ever offers something like cygwin, but native, it might kill Linux Desktop for good.
Care to elaborate?
Why do you need cygwin at all?
Everything command line can be done by powershell nowadays, you just take the time to learn it. But it took you time to learn it on linux too, so what's the point?
>>42641401
>posted from manjaro
you're one cheeky cunt i like you
>>42646497
Most useful command-line programs are Unix only.
You don't have something like apt-get on Windows.
>>42641546
Even I read books but holy fuck you're a pseudo-intellectual neckbeard. I found the perfect shirt for you.
>>42646576
>>42646477
>I also feel that Windows offers a much better experience.
Agreed. Everything in Windows is just better "integrated" (especially things like file associations).
[spoiler]But I still like muh Debian much, much better.[/spoiler]
>>42640752
>Mature enough to live without video games
Are you mature enough to live without movies and TV shows as well?
Video games aren't fun
It's the same shit over and over again except for boring, avant garde cinematic games that tell awful stories written by third graders (being able to pick out a few metaphors does not make them any less shitty)
So you can get by gaming on linux by playing doom/quake all day and feeling secure in the fact that indie games always end up on linux.
>>42641935
>Linux is for computer enthusiasts who are trying to get a slightly more enhanced experience
false. My mother(baker) have Linux Mint, my gf(economist) have Ubuntu...
>>42640454
enjoy your native telnet client.
>>42646632
similar experience with me
>3 brothers under 12
all use manjaro
>dad who's a pilot in the ADF
Mint
>gf
xubuntu
They're all casual OS' but thats the point, they can all do exactly what they need to do on them.
>>42640889
Valve has SteamOS going for it which is guaranteed to bring a ton more games to Linux seeing how popular Steam is.
This also negates the faggots who go.
>el im so matur i dnt play games xD
>>42640454
>...anyone running Linux on their desktop is either 12 years old or an unemployed loser.
i use Linux daily and it is installed on my working notebook. I personally like it more than Windows, and there are several reasons why it is superior to Windows.
i make nearly 90.000 Euro with medical computer science per year.
How much do you earn OP ?
>>42646623
Somebody always makes sure the most popular games work with Wine, really. Honestly, I am a big-time gamer, although mainly into RPGs, and I've never felt very restricted by my OS of choice, which obviously is Linux.
Some games require some adjustment to make them work, most don't, and they work.
I dunno why no games is even an argument.
Firstly there are some games, some pretty good ones too.
Secondly, the ps3 had no games and look how well that sold.
>>42640855
You mean the technet?
Hi, I have a bsod problem.
Ok anon, it could be OS, driver, virus, hardware failure, or OC.
>>42645999
>implying video games make ur life "usefull and interesting"
>>42640454
>Enjoy your hobby OS, nerds!
I do. Also winblows is for faggots.
>>42646529
apt-get is not a command line program it's a packet management system. Why would anyone need that on windows, you can just download an installer for any piece of software from billions of sources on the internet and run it?
>>42640889
There are a lot of games out there that run natively on Linux. Also,
>Wine Is Not an Emulator
>>42646675
kek'd
>>42641025
>Unable to get vga passthrough working
>>42646675
because linuxfags are retards who need someone to put their software in a repo for them and pre-configure everything .
>>42646675
you can, and its perfectly acceptable to use it.
You know what apt-get is, so you obviously know how easy it is to use so I don't need to explain that too you.
But using apt-get or pacman is much faster than searching for something online once you know how to use it.
They're not perfect though as sometimes you still need to go searching, but I prefer having them to try before I search since it takes 10seconds to use them.
>>42646623
>Video games aren't fun
>Fapping to my newest linux theme is fun
>My opinion has to be anyone elses opinion.
You're a total fucktard. Kill yourself.
>>42640889
>games
I haven't found the need for FPSes other than xonotic and wolfenstein ET
There aren't as many active players as the latest cow doody but I'm free from xX420ShoutsIntoTheMic[NOSCOPE] for the most part
>>42646651
>Valve has SteamOS going for it which is guaranteed to bring a ton more games to SteamOS
Fixed that for you.
Native linux support won't happen.
>>42644988
>Computers
>No dev
Linux is also for dev and non-commercial/casual/old-school gaming.
> windows user points out x-y feature is missing
> linux user: muh I don't need this anyways
100% autistic, always
>>42645117
Best fucking image ever. I'm about to jump from Debian to Slackware, but I've been on a Fedora-based distro before switching to Debian. I know I will end with LFS, also I started from Ubuntu and then used Linux Mint. This image is kinda realistic.
>>42646699
is wolfstein still alive
>>42646722
Other way around. Where's your package manager, faggot?
>inb4 poorly supported bullshit with all of 20 programs
>>42646692
>retards
malware_winvista64_setup.exe
>typical Windows installer
How are Linux users retards?
>>42641621
and ssh, virtualisation, good audio player, archive manager supporting anything else than zip, package manager, dm-crypt, ftp, internet browser, effective multi monitor set up.
>>42640454
>>42646692
God damn those retards for wanting to do less work
Apt is actually shit for doing less work though, if you want a package manager that does everything for you, does it well, and never breaks, use yum.
>BUT ITS SLOW
That's because it's doing so much damn work verifying your packages, building deltarpms, managing your metadata and mirrors, properly calculating dependencies (remove with leaves plugin = godsend), and optionally getting changelogs and checking whether or not something is a security update
>>42646722
>Windows user points out a program is missing (linux is missing very few features that windows has - except AD/etc aka shit for office intranet management that /g/ is afraid of touching regardless of OS)
>linux user: I don't need it. If I needed it, I'd be using windows.
100% reasonable, always.
>>42646744
> packet manager
why would I need one, it's not even useful as if you don't know what program to use for a certain task you still have to look it up anyways.
Windows and all my apps check for updates and let me know when one is available.
> malware
only freetards get malware on windows because they are too dumb to use windows.
>>42646804
it really is reasonable, lets take an example
>why do you catch the bus anon, what if you wanted to go into the middle of the desert?
I don't want to go to the middle of the desert i want to go to college and work
HURR IDIOT YOU NEED A CAR MORON
>>42646827
>muh I don't need this anyways
Thanks for proving me right.
>>42646804
>Windows user points out a program is missing
>linux user: NO, I DON'T NEED YOUR AUTISTIC CALL OF DUMBASSES.
I'd rather say that this is the situation in most cases.
>>42646830
Are you describing windows users with one of the dumbest analogies ever?
>>42646722
>>42646827
the pot calling the kettle etc.
>>42646833
system updates are taken care by windows
program updates are integrated
are you retarded ? also there are tons of packet manager alternatives on windows if that's what you really want so fuck off freetard
>>42646842
yeah, windows users relate to cars, because their low iq forces them to do burnouts all day
i couldve used another analogy but they wouldnt understand if it doesnt make loud noises to keep them entertained.
[spoiler]just like video games[/spoiler] [spoiler]no spoilers[/spoiler]
>>42646827
>Windows and all my apps check for updates and let me know when one is available.
GNU/Linux can't do that lol
Also, Windows updates:
>have to reboot computer, often without asking
>updates while booting, doesn't let you use your computer while updating
GNU/Linux Updates
>only reboot if kernel updates (makes sense, doesn't it?)
>doen't setup on booting
>asks you before updating
>>42646827
Only wintards think package managers are dumb because they are too stupid to comprehend the convenience that even apple and every mobile OS ever have implimented
Even microsoft is making an app store (newspeak for package manager) now. Get with the times, luddite.
Oh nevermind, you probably use 7 because you can't live with a slightly different start menu. How typical of the grossly unintelligent to be unable to adapt
That, and the perilously old and settled, but since you are on 4chan I will assume you are just dumb
Android is the only reason Linux is still around.
>>42646852
>system updates are taken care by windows
lel update failed pls try again lel updating for 4 hours configuring updates lel
>program updates are integrated
lel click through this shit oh don't forget to uncheck the bullshit adware every time you open a program it bugs you pls update java pls update java pls update java
Not to mention that cleaning up your programs on shitdows is the worst thing ever. Oh lord, all of that clicking around, waiting, survey bullshit. Gay as fuck.
>tons of poorly supported bullshit with all of 20 programs
You mean.
>>42646868
>>42646864
once again proof that freetards are manbabies who don't know shit about computers or how to use windows properly.
Ok enough 4chan I'm going to play watch dogs, something you'll never do in your shitty Lignux
>>42646852
>why would we have a single program to take care of updates for everything
>when we can write an update manager into every programs, exponentially increasing the potential number of bugs
>while providing an inconsistent experience, with differences including forced vs. optional upgrades, downgrades vs. no option, and varying update methods including asking the user to download and install a program manually!
Wow it's like you really live in the 90s/early 2000s. Do you also use windows XP?
>luser: hurr microsoft knows best, package managers are stupid
>microsoft: introducing the windows app store, because not having a package manager is stupid
>luser: p-package managers are stu...pid... ;_;
>>42646882
>gets rekt
>devolves into shitposting and muh gaymes
Are you actually a linuxfag trying to make wintards look dumb? Trust me, they don't need your help.
>>42646884
fuck off with your appstore/repo cancer. go back to iOS and shitnux.
>>42646882
I'm going to see my girlfriend, something that gaming wintards will never do.
>>42646882
>>42646898
A windows user of all people being proud that his computer is a fucking timesink that breaks half the time? Wow.
-Sent from my iPhone
>>42646909
Fuck off furfuck, everybody hates your kind, and for good reason.
>>42646909
once more proof that you are just too dumb to use windows, probably the kind of tard that downloads pre-activated of the piratebay
>>42646915
My kind? Hey now, I may be jewish, but I'm still a person like you. Don't hate me, hate the bankers, hitler.
>>42646924
Doing things in the most convoluted way possible doesn't make you smart, it makes you a dedicated idiot.
>>42646940
>My kind? Hey now, I may be jewish, but I'm still a person like you. Don't hate me, hate the bankers, hitler.
Your kind, as in furfaggots. I'm not /pol/, I've no issue with jews.
>>42646909
why is marty so cute?
id kill for a bf like that
>>42646940
>Doing things in the most convoluted way possible doesn't make you smart, it makes you a dedicated idiot.
yep using wine or qemu + pci pass through is the smart way to play gaymes,
muh windows is difficult to use, muh I got a malware
>>42641427
but it is free, fucktard
>>42646954
Windows is what? How is Windows difficult to use? One of the most used pro-Windows arguments is that it is easy for everyone to use.
>>42646946
>Windows user with a superiority complex
>Tries too hard to act like a goon from 2007
Is it safe to assume you just got back from shitposting on /v/ and reading up on your encyclopedia dramatica?
Everyone has already thought that you're trolling and stroking your dick to hot marty horsedick action right this moment but I'm curious if you're actually sincere or not
>>42646976
I use GNU/Linux, retard. I just also happen to hate you subhumans.
>>42646954
>yum install wine
>double click on an .exe
WHY IS PLAYING TOUHOU ON LINUX SO HARD
>>42646981
Hmm, yeah, that's the exact same language I use when I troll furries/weebs/internet nerds to mask my own insecurities.
Could you be my brother in suicidal depression? Lets cut together while listening to OPN and boards of canada
