![electron_hero[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/u3DX8Wx.jpg "electron_hero[1].jpg")
How does this look for a budget 4k rig?
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/8D6MK8
total $3300 including monitor.
Based on Austin Evans' $4k 4k "Electron" build: http://austinnotduncan.com/builds/electron/
pic related
>spending 3k on a computer
;^)
>>46732064
Or I can save a few bucks by selling my processor, motherboard, and gpu(3570k, asrock z77 extreme4, and sapphire dual-x 7970), recycling my case(NZXT Switch 810), power supply(hale90v2 1000w) and hard drives, for a total of ~$2500
>>46732064
It's alright, but there are a few problems I have with the idea.
>4K
You're investing in two very good video cards to power a 28 inch TN panel. Not that that particular monitor is bad, but it's still limited by being a TN. At that large form factor, your viewing angles become very important since it's pretty fucking huge. I would highly recommend going for a very quality IPS panel for a few reasons.
1. You could drop down to a remarkably badass 3440x1440 21:9 IPS display and not need to crossfire/SLI to power it.
2. You can stay at 16:9 at 2560x1440 and power it with a single card as well.
3. Both 3440x1440 (34 inches) and 2560x1440 (27 inches) run at right around 110ppi, which is ideal for Windows. At UHD you will have a lot of scaling issues.
4. Long story short, you're throwing a lot of money at a 4K TN build and both will hold you back.
>crossfiring 290x cards
Not a terrible idea, but the 300 cards are around the corner. But it gets back to my original point that you could stick a single 980/290x in a build and power a 110ppi amazing experience.
Builds above $2k are fucking stupid
In case you're serious, I'll tell you why:
From $1k to $2k you'll see about a 50% performance increase, from $2k to $4k you see about a 5% performance increase.
4790K
GTX 980
21:9 3440x1440p IPS (could even go for one with a curve)
The gaming experience will shit all over a 4K build and can be done a lot cheaper, even tho you may drop a grand on the monitor.
>>46732064
why is that monitor so expensive?
I bought a 120hz 27" 2ms 2 years ago for £200
Austin Evans is a fag.
>>46732064
>4k build
>4790K
>Z97
>290X
abort
Sweet, build thread.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/YTv6jX
Sticking with 1080p at the moment but this is meant to carry into/easy to upgrade into the future as well if/when 4k becomes the standard.
>Z97
>SATA SSDs
>>46732221
Any particular reason you're going x99 over z97? x99 is great don't get me wrong, it just feels out of place with your build.
>>46732198
Ur a fag, fag
>>46732175
>nvidia
>4K
Protip: Nvidia's cards are worse at the super high resolutions than AMD's.
Seriously. The memory bandwidth on AMD cards is better, and that's better for the higher resolutions.
Not that the 290X can do 4K either, 4K is just too big for single GPU cards right now.
The 390X might be the one.
But if you want 4K gaming, you want to wait for it, at least.
>>46732221
>X99
>single channel RAM
>>46732221
>2k build
>rosewill bronze psu
Gets me every time.
>>46732244
Did you even read his post? He's telling OP to go to 21:9 instead of 4K.
>>46732248
Rosewill power supplies are pretty good though.
How's this?
CASE: Fractal Design Define R5 Black
COOLER: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO
MOTHERBOARD: Gigabyte Z97X-UD5H-BK
SSD: Crucial MX100 256GB SSD
HDD: Seagate Barracuda 7200.14 1TB
OD: LG BH16NS40
GPU: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 980 Gaming G1 WindForce OC 4GB GDDR5
CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0Ghz
PSU: EVGA SuperNOVA 850 G2
RAM:16GB CL7 1600MHz
>>46732150
I could swap it out for a Dell P2715Q, but I'd probably just have both eventually.
>>46732291
Forgot to add: 1.666,61€
>>46732264
>reading
I'm an american.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/KDzDTW
Should I opt for a 750w PSU?
I don't plan on doing any heavy overclocking so I think it'll be fine.
>>46732327
>http://pcpartpicker.com/p/KDzDTW
You'd be fine with that PSU.
>>46732291
What is your monitor? And what will you be using it for?
If you're at 1080p that's a little overkill since 970/290 can handle that res with ease.
8GB of ram is plenty for most tasks, tho certain Adobe Creative Suite softwares love them some ram.
PSU is overkill. A quality 500-600w will power a 980.
Why do you need an optical drive?
>>46732064
Are you going to overclock that cpu? Over 100gummibears seems kinda expensive for cooling. But i guess its not that big off a deal in all and all.
>>46732354
Yes, definitely. The cooler is mostly a placeholder for the future, if one wanted to put those GPUs under water.
>>46732343
Hobby video/photo editing, gaming, browsing 4chan and watching animays. I own a 24'' 1080p monitor but I plan to go for 1440p in the future. I would buy the 970 but you already know its problems. I want this to be future proof for 5-6 years that's why I went a bit overkill with the ram, PSU is just in case I go for a dual GPU config in the future
>Why do you need an optical drive?
Autism.
>>46732118
>being poor
D^:
>>46732221
this
if you are going for i7, might as well get a proper one and go x99 instead of a pricey i5 with HT
>>46732151
>HURR DURR WHATS A MONITOR(S), CASE, DISKS, OS
>>46732198
underrated post
>>46732243
austin's faggit buttfag fuckfriend
>>46732436
>paying $1000 for a processor, $400 for a motherboard, and then having to pay double for comparable ddr4 ram
no thanks, this is a budget 4k build.
>>46732064
>budget
>4k
>$3300
I guess that's about what I'd expect for a "budget" 4k system.
I'll stick to my 1080p system which cost a third of that, a year ago.
>>46732506
this is a budget build, not a SUPER ULTRA MEGAPOORFAG TO THE EXTREME build.
how this?
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/whD4mG
video editing/3d/gaming, 2 SSds are in raid, HDD for storage
>>46732505
did you even check his build? its 1200 bucks cheaper than OP's
and why even go i7 if you are on a tight budget then
>>46732426
All 3.5 jokes aside, the 970 is still a very strong card.
>future proofing
At 1440p (assuming 16:9) a 970 or a 980 will handle it well for a while. There isn't a comfy line at the moment where you can overkill a certain res and future proof for bigger resolutions in the future, with a single card that is.
4K needs SLI/Xfire and 1440p can be ran with big single cards. So it's very hard to future proof with a GPU right now.
The most important point is that there is not a very big difference between a 970 and a 980 until you get to high resolutions where neither on their own is ideal. You're paying a lot extra for very little extra performance.
>>46732530
>no motherboard
>500gb hard drive
other than that it's not terribad
>>46732537
of course I didn't. but upon inspection
>970
>rosewill power supply
>razer mouse
>no-name GAMING keyboard
>shitty acer monitors
>single DIMM of ram at 2400mhz
>$500+ processor+cooling in a shitty poorfag build
it's full on retarded.
>>46732553
I was thinking of waiting for AMD's 300 series and the z97 mobo refresh including USB 3.1 Type-A and Type-C
Is the new usb type-c thing worth it or a flop? Say, 2 years from now will mice and keyboards and monitors and such come in type-c?
>>46732588
>no motherboard
I'm retarded
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/J6nT3C
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gigabyte-motherboard-gaz97hd3
>500gb
it is sort of enough for me
>other than that it's not terribad
:D
>>46732588
well yeah, its just the cpu im defending. since everyone here thinks op will be better off with an i7, either get one that could make a difference or just get an i5
he also mentioned photo/video editing so 2 extra cores would be nice
also shitty poorfag build? guy is ready to spend 3.3k bucks
>>46732064
These fucking super builds are the biggest gimmick I swear.
Just find some two-gen old parts on ebay.
I just upgraded from an 8800GT to a brand new GTX 460 for $20.
Then again I don't play demanding games like crisis and battlefield because I'm not a huge faggot.
>>46732444
>Buying software
>>46732064
>2015
>rig
Just use your phone.
>>46732609
I think it would be smart to wait on the 300 cards just to see how that plays out. Early buyers usually find the bugs so I'd give it time to see how they're performing at each price point. At least then, you'd be able to make a better decision on your build.
A side effect is it could make the 970/980 drop in price. The 290x was a 500-600 dollar video card until the 970 and 980 launched, then it was dropped to 350.
>>46732526
$3300 for a toy is not a budget anything. I could justify spending that much on outdoor equipment, but not indoor equipment. It would only make sense if you game in a "professional" capacity, like a streamer or game tester/reviewer.
The final piece comes next week: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/JtnkmG
So excited for my first desktop. I'm going to build it myself, too. My computing experience shall be reborn!
>>46732675
>being a thief
>>46732686
Definitely a price drop on the 980 would be welcome. What about the USB type c? And wait for broadwell or nah?
>>46732651
I'm OP.
The shitty poorfag build is the guy putting literally 1/4 of his entire build+peripherals budget into his processor and sacrificing on everything else in his build.
>>46732654
Sorry m8, some of us actually care about our hardware.
Maybe I can sell you my old shit when I upgrade. I'm sure the 7970 I'm ugrading from would be a huge upgrade to your housefire.
>>46732687
You don't know what budget means. Considering that I took a $4000 build, added a 4k moniter, and still cut out $700, this is definitely a budget build.
>>46732700
Very nice. Are you recycling a GPU from a previous build, or is this a business computer?
>Budget
>4K
Pick one.
Also
>using the word rig to describe a fucking pc
>>46732707
>Paying money for arbitrary bit patterns
>Calling me a thief
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theft
>>46732746
Budget: an estimate of income and expenditure for a set period of time.
Rig: an apparatus, device, or piece of equipment designed for a particular purpose.
>>46732763
Doesnt make you sound like any less of an idiot.
>>46732064
>buying a huge as fuck tower for the puny build
>NZXT H630 and H440 have shit tier airflow for GPU so you have to water cool it
your build is retarded for that much money
>>46732707>>46732707
>using software that respects my freedoms
>install gentoo
>>46732767
>using words in situations where they're appropriate by definition makes me an idiot
Wow great argument fagtron you sure convinced me with those hot opinions
>>46732738
Technically it's a GTX 555 so no fermi.
60C tops.
>>46732738
again, have you checked the price on cpu/cooler? its about same as yours. x99 isnt as expensive as you think.
and again, why get i7 at all then?
oh well whatever, get an i5 with HT for 70 bucks more and call it budget build
>>46732588
>>46732248
What's wrong with the power supply?
>>46732801
It says "ROSEWILL" on the side.
>>46732789
Okay, enjoy you overpriced "rig" you childish retard.
>>46732808
Oh no, now having money to spend and knowing how to use words contextually makes me a childish retard?!
>>46732801
Boom.
>>46732821
So does posting reddit tier image macros.
I dont see why you're so upset. The only people who actually call a pc a "rig" are idiots from /v/.
>>46732064
>"Electron build"
wtf is that?
>$1,000 CPU for gaming
complete and utter retardation, this can't be real, right?
>Putting SSDs in Raid 0
I'm out
>>46732799
The difference is that my processor and processor cooling is a total 14% of my build, which is comprised of mostly pretty high end hardware.
His processor and cooling are 26% of his build cost, and he skimped on almost everything else in his build.
My build would be a powerhouse, and his would be absolute shit.
>>46732588
>That mouse is probably the best thing razer makes
>it's a mechanical keyboard, nothing gayman about it
So how would you fix it?
>>46732444
>you will never be a richfag
damn
>>46732863
It's literally linked in the post that you're quoting.
I literally removed the $1000 cpu from my build.
>>46732879
The shiniest piece of shit is still a turd.
Any keyboard that's called the "nighthawk x7" and has a backlight is gaming shit, and when it's overpriced and from a brand I've never heard of, it's not going to be any good.
On top of that, it's gaming shit with blue switches, because it's marketed to gamers who don't know the difference.
You can get a CM QFR with reds or blacks for ~$80, or a QF-XT for ~$90, if you're not into TKL.
>>46732939
Not even a richfag, I only made $10,000 in 2015. Just get good at saving your money for the shit you want.
>>46732871
14% of your 3300 bucks build, 26% of his 2000 build, dat logic
so basicly what you are saying is because he doesnt spend as much money as you, it makes it a shit build.
you know what im out, you link a utter shit build, when ppl talk bad about it you get upset :(
>>46732939
Start practising dick sucking and become a paid trap
>>46732953
I mean with the processor/mobo/cooling.
>calling it a rig
>4k gaming
>housefire PC
>>>/reddit/
>>46732871
Your build is also another grand and some change more. Your math doesn't add up.
>>46732980
No, because all of his other hardware is fucking shit
are you literally retarded?
If this is a budget build what is then a non-budget build since you can't get much better hardware than this? Why do you want 4k when it's still not optimized or used? Why do you think that someone is poor just because they are spending money smarter than you and don't want to throw cash like mindless idiots? Companies sure love dumb people cause they are easy to milk and laught at.
>>46733034
My math is rounded to the nearest integer
>>46733050
A non-budget build would be a build without a budget. My budget was obviously "less than this guy who spent $4000 and didn't even get a monitor with it"
I cut $1300 out of that buy's build.
How is this even something that you're having trouble understanding?
Budget does not mean "cheap", budget means keeping it under a set amount of money.
>>46732953
>shits on me for having a "gaming" keyboard because you "think" it's one
>links me an actual gaming keyboard ( that's actually called one)
>if you like blues you're an uneducated faggot
You're an opinionated idiot.
>>46733076
Why are you not understanding the concept that shitty overpriced hardware marketed to gamers is inferior to hardware that is better and cheaper that is also marketed to gamers?
>>46733093
How about you tell me WHY it's bad instead of just throwing opinions around (derp lights r bad)
So literally half the posts are OP's, replying to everyone why his shitty "budget build" isnt bad
>$3300
>old gen gpus (better than x2 980 tough)
>that high cost and no ddr4
Its shit
>>46733132
Honestly I can't tell who's who in this thread.
>>46733130
Obviously because it's too expensive for a keyboard I've never heard of and for a keyboard that has features of which I do not approve.
>>46733140
>old gen GPUs
>literally current generation GPUs.
>>46733153
I'd use a trip but then the the thread would be full of retards shitposting about how trips are bad.
>>46733069
I know what budget build means. You are right about what you said, but usually when someone mentinos budget build they also mean "cheap-er".
>>46733184
Again, future-proofing, and GPUs are not in a good spot for it with 4k around the corner. If it wans't for the 4G issue with the 970s I'd SLI them, but that won't solve the RAM problem. What would you do?
>>46733245
2x 8gb 290x
>>46732654
You are right, they are gimmicks but not to these faglords who live off building new PCs every week. 460 is indeed a housefire since it's fermi.
>>46733251
And pay more for cooling and a larger power supply?
>>46733357
then
uh
i dunno
um
one 8gb 290x?
>>46732064
you can very easily save up to 660$ on a smaller, better looking build that will get the same performance on pretty much every single game.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/LPVnFT
The only difference you'll see will be in synthetic benchmarks and rendering applications like Keyshot Pro. i7 is a scam imo literally just an i5 with extra threads that generally aren't even used. If you really want extra cpu power move up to a 6-core i7 or a xeon, but keep in mind it won't necessarily get better fps in games. Also please people need to stop quoting logicalincrements, as much as I love the website their "high-end" builds are trash fodder
>>46733413
I was thinking a 780ti
>>46733567
disgusting.
go for a 295x2 they cost like 600 now
>>46732588
How would you fix the monitors?
>>46733576
nvm closer to 700. still a decent deal and you get ~ the same processing power as you would with 970s but with that extra 500MB
>>46733527
I could save another $200 by recycling my 3570k instead of buying the 4690k, because it's really very little improvement.
>>46733580
by not buying shitty acer monitors. I'm not just talking shit now, I've had acer monitors, and they're absolutely terrible. Imagine the worst backlight bleed you can imagine and then add 20% more bleed.
>>46733612
So what brand would you go with, everything else staying the same?
>>46733642
Asus makes solid monitors. If you just need a cheap 1080p display, you can get anything from asus.
if it's for gaming, think about getting a vg248qe, which is what I use. You'll benefit more from 144hz than from two displays. Think about getting an ips display for your secondary because there's no reason not to go ips if you're not gaming on it. I got a u2312hm for cheap and I don't regret it.
>>46733701
I also do graphic design work, so the color issue on the vg248qe might be an issue.
>>46733820
If you're doing graphical design work, then you NEED an IPS monitor BEFORE you buy a TN panel for gaming.
The display is the one thing you can NOT skimp on if it's for business.
1080p is not enough, and I'd go bigger than 24"
something like this would work well http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA24G1XA5131
>going to 4k instead of 1440p and 144hz
>3k
Holy fucking shit
>>46733883
Sorry that I've spent the whole thread talking shit about your build with some asshole who had no idea what he's talking about. I'll have an updated build for you in 10-15 minutes.
>look at my 3k build
>what do you play there?
>skyrim
>>46732175
How much more difficult is it to run a 21:9 1440p vs a 16:9 1440p?
I'm holding out on a new monitor for my 290x to see about the Acer 1440p/144hz freesync monitor
>>46733883
>>46733945
I updated my build a little bit and I have a cap of ~2600.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2z6hxr
>>46733820
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/8BvKbv
here you go
It'll cost a little more, but it will be a LOT better for what you need to do with it.
pick one of the monitors, and remove the other one. one is QHD and one is UHD.
for design work, you NEED more RAM, you NEED as high a resolution panel as you can afford, and you'll benefit from more VRAM.
Your graphics should be as much of your budget as possible.
If you can afford it, get another 16gb ram kit to throw in there.
>>46732064
looks okay.
but 3k$ ist very much. You should really build something you want to use for longer and change graphics cards after some years and don't buy the most expensive stuff.
One gpu will do. 4k is not good for gaming.
If you want to play games you can get 3 1080p screens or one good ips or amva and one 144hz tn for gaming. that way you have a screen with good quality and a fast one.
Trust me it makes a difference. I am also using the 2 different screen setup.
And for your amusement:
you can buy supah gayming pc here:
http://elite-pc-pro.com
>really. take a look at those ridiculous offers
>>46734144
>http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2z6hxr
Better, but I'd say for the same-ish price, I think this one would do you a lot better:
>>46734179
4k will be great for gaming, but is even better for working. 1080p simply doesn't cut it for actual work. You need a mouse with a perfect sensor, and linus recommends the cm m45. I would've said to get a g400, but they're all gone forever.
For working, if you're not going to be using headphones, you need powerful speakers. For $100, the ones I've included are pretty solid(from personal experience).
The PSU I included is similar to the one you selected, but a lot cheaper.
Same ram, same keyboard, either motherboard would probably be fine, case doesn't really matter, but personally I would(and did) go for one from NZXT for looks their phantom goes on sale a lot.
>>46734248
>http://elite-pc-pro.com
It's scary that there might actually be people buying things from them. Absolutely terrible website, and the specifications are as ambiguous as possible. I think they're throwing in the shittiest bargain-bin hardware they can find.
>EVGA Nvidia GeForce Series 2 Gigabyte Video Card
>>46734144
Don't buy that crappy SSD. It's not even the newest generation of that model type. Buy a Samsung 850 Evo instead. (850 Evo Pro if you want to spend extra for more reliability even though the 850 Evo is extremely reliable)
>>46734144
You have a full tower case, so you don't need to buy that terrible watercooling loop. Get a Corsair H105 for about the same price.
>building a 4K machine before AMD releases their new cards
I think the timing is bad. At the very least you'd benefit form price drops.
>>46734642
does anyone even know when they're coming?
>>46734312
Why do you need 4k for work?
>>46734792
earliest I've heard is smarch
Just finished my build. It's expensive, but it should last me a few years.
Corsair 900d
Asus X99 Deluxe
Intel i7-5930K
Corsair 32GB (4x8GB) DDR4-2400
Corsair H110i GT
Corsair AX1500i
2x EVGA GTX 980
Samsung 512GB XP941 x4 SSD
Noctua fans (found the 140s for 13.99 a piece!)
No window, solid panel on both sides.
3x ROG Swift monitors will be replacing my current Samsung 5760x1080 setup soon. Just found out I'm having my first kid, so it's probably my last purchase for the next 18-22 years.
What does /g/ think of this? I'm going to be buying a CPU cooler and HDD later on. What monitors should I be looking at?
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/c3wPLk
>>46735045
>4GB VRAM
>a few years
>>46734312
>>46733883
I don't do it for work, mainly pleasure. It's just an issue though.
>>46732429
>not building your own pc for under 2k
;'^]
