Intended for users of all levels, including absolute beginners.
There are three ways to try Linux, you can:
1) Install a Linux OS on a VM (Virtual Machine/VirtualBox) for "safety purposes"
2) Use the Live ISO directly without installing anything, that way, you can get a "full Linux experience".
3) Dual-boot Linux with Windows/Mac (recommend if you want to learn more about Linux)
4) Go balls deep and overwrite everything with Linux (not recommended)
If you are serious about switching to Linux and if you have Windows dual-booted, we recommend you use it exclusively for 2 weeks, and avoid Windows dual booting for that period of time, or it's likely you will start retreating back to windows instead of getting used to Linux as your new home and working onnmaking it feel the way you want it.
Before asking, please find the answers to your questions in resources.
Please be civil, notice the "Friendly" in every Friendly Linux Thread.
Understand that much of your software from Windows will be unavailable, although maybe wine can make up for it.
Resources:
man <insert command here>
your friendly neighborhood search engine
https://www.codecademy.com/en/courses/learn-the-command-line
https://wiki.archlinux.org/
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/
>>52391192
What is Linux (or GNU/Linux for Stallmanists)?
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/GNU/Linux
Babby's First Linux (What distro to choose?)
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Babbies_First_Linux
What software does /g/ recommend? (Please DON'T include the so called infographic [it's reddit-tier] -- refer all your recommended software here.)
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/List_of_recommended_GNU/Linux_software
Ricing on Linux (Make it good and functional or make it worse/puke-inducing like those at desktop threads)
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/GNU/Linux_ricing
A script designed to ease the transition from Windows to Debian
https://gitgud.io/Chocolate-Chip-Computing/DebianNewbieScript
Check out this page for any updates on the OP
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php//flt/
IRC No one uses:
irc://irc.freenode.org:+7000/FriendlyLinux
Previous Thread: >>52385131
>>52391192
I'd like to just interject for a moment. Linux is a kernel you fucking stupid shit. Don't tell newsfeed it's meme Linux when you know full well it's a gnu/Linux or gnu plus Linux operating system.
Finally. We're already at page 8.
>>52391226
Also this OP. Change it finally, goddammit.
What is the BEST linux? I need to know!
>>52391226
Yeah, Linux is a kernel.
It's a kernel at the core of hundreds of distributions, all operating systems in their own right.
Are all of them made entirely of GNU software or developed by the GNU foundation? Doubtful.
They're distributions of the Linux kernel; they're systems built around it. The Linux Kernel is the one element absolutely universal to all distributions.
Any distros made by GNU could be called Gnu Linux.
>>52391344
Nice bait.
Suicide Linux.
>>52391350
>I'm a newfag, please understanding
t. OP
What exactly does systemd do? It seems to have its fingers in everything.
Why is Arch Linux so awesome?
>>52391344
Linux is a kernel; there is only one "Linux".
Also OP is a faggot.
>>52391344
Gentoo
>/FLT/ - Friendly Linux Thread
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux,
is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux.
Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component
of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell
utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.
Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day,
without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU
which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are
not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.
There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a
part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system
that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run.
The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself;
it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is
normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system
is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux"
distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.
is there any phushbullet like software for gnome environment that works on fedora ? thanks !
>windows 8.1
>decide to try ubuntu
>make 250gb free space partition from the control panel
>torrent ubuntu 15.10, verify md5
>burn to disc, verify disc
>reboot, boot into disc from BIOS
>ATA error
>Boot back into windows
>On my motherboard you have to use a different sata port for no reason because I'm apparently using "ASmedia SATA ports" or something
>Too lazy to open my case and switch a few plugs because I know when I do get ubuntu up and running it will probably have a bunch of other retarded hardware conflicts and I won't have any sound and my wifi stick won't work and probably 1/3 of the shit plugged into my motherboard will break
this is why linux will never have widespread adoption
I'm trying to understand system updates without update managers. I always imagined the security updates in Windows to be some obscure complex process, but in Ubuntu, it just says 'such and such package has an update'. Is that all there is to it? Linux is just made up of packages and you can update them individually whenever they get pushed?
>>52391441
Who is this semen demon?
>>52391370
> FSF was working on a GNU operating system
> Linux Kernel provides an important missing piece
> Hundreds of other operating systems are released built on the Linux Kernel
> It's all Gnu/Linux
Not sure how that works.
>>52391396
Because it doesn't make any assumptions about what's best for you?
>>52391440
> I tried to dual-boot with a BIOS and shit didn't work
> I couldn't be bothered to switch around three plugs
> Surely other things would have broken
You're baiting. You had one issue which could have been easily resolved. I sincerely doubt a noob distro like Ubuntu would actually not be able to run on your hardware.
Is having 50+ Firefox processes for one Firefox instance normal? Seems like a few too many.
>>52391472
>I'm running a kernel as main operating system
pleb
>>52391511
Just! XD
>>52391509
is there any good reason why I can use the ASmedia controller to install windows from disk but not Ubuntu?
>>52391521
BTFO
>>52391344
Don't try to start shit you bitch
>>52391535
Because ASUS, the same company that makes you connect to their taiwanese headquarters if you have AI Suite installed.
>>52391192
https://www.gnu.org/gnu/why-gnu-linux.html
Dont be a faggot OP.
>>52391577
So I've been bamboozled by some shitty gook company is what you're saying?
>>52391472
Hundreds of other operating systems?
Name five.
>>52391594
Racist idiot.
>>52391344
I'd choose the one made by Linus Tovalds, it's the best one. I'm sure there's a live iso. Google it.
>>52391594
Yes. Their mobos are still good, mind you, but in this world there is always a catch unless you work hard to find it.
>>52391616
Asus x99-a/ usb 3.1
>>52391522
Seriously, this is a bit overwhelming.
>>52391615
>>52391635
I don't have the 3.1 but did you know there is an issue where their ASmedia drivers tend to fail, especially the USB 3.0 driver because of some weird conflict?
>>52391660
...No, i didn't know that and i just won that motherboard on ebay
>>52391344
This one
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux-libre
>>52391647
did you hide the userland threads?
F2 > display options
>>52391692
We have a winner!
>>52391647
"hide userland threads"
>>52391739
So,Firefox is multithreaded now
>>52391647
>not using tree view
>>52391756
yep
>>52391441
Yup, that's pretty much the case.
>>52391441
Can we get more of her?
>>52391687
You'll be okay. Just block EZUpdate in firewall if you end up installing that POS AI Suite if it comes with the software cd.
This is what I was talking about:
http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-2387781/asus-z97-pro-usb-port-working.html
>>52391716
>>52391739
Thanks, that cut it down to just the one. Now htop is a lot more readable too.
>>52391773
Interesting. Some programs are too far down a tree for it to be very nice though.
>>52391800
>EZUpdate
I'll block it, also is the Linux driver affected?
>>52391521
When did I say that? I said operating systems were built around this kernel, and it is the only element all of those operating systems have, hence Linux Distributions.
> Debian Linux
> Red Hat Linux
> Gentoo Linux
> Gnu Linux
>>52391868
windblows problem only
>>52391606
> Debian
> Fedora
> Slackware
> Gentoo
> Arch
>>52391893
see
>>52391429
You may think this is a funny meme, but you should read it.
>>52391617
> wincest
>>/b/
and give me a link to the thread.
is there any phushbullet like software for gnome environment that works on fedora ?
>>52391915
You clearly don't know what you're talking about.
Incest is disgusting, stay in topic
>>52392003
>>>/reddit/
>>52391441
She's really cute.
>>52391915
lolwut
https://www.debian.org/intro/about
>A large part of the basic tools that fill out the operating system come from the GNU project; hence the names: GNU/Linux, GNU/kFreeBSD, and GNU/Hurd. These tools are also free.
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Arch_Linux
> Arch Linux is an independently developed, i686/x86-64 general purpose GNU/Linux distribution
https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/FAQ
> Please read Gentoo documentation and man pages to gain a greater understanding of how Gentoo and GNU/Linux works
http://www.slackware.com/info/
> It's currently based around the 2.6 Linux kernel series and the GNU C Library
i couldn't find such an obvious quote for fedora but they obviously include many gnu programs
>>52392119
Again
>>>/b/
or
>>>/r9k/
And post link to thread.
>>52392131
This
also
>what are coreutils
Just call it flriendly *nix thread to please everyone and prevent faggotry: /f*t/
>>52392200
Or Friendly Unix-Like Operating System Thread.
>>52392200
Friendly Unix General or /fug/
OP here, sorry for being a faggot again.
Next thread will be called /fgt/ - friendly /g/entoomen thread.
Anyone w/ a hot sister having unix like problems?
>>52392309
>not having autism
found the *buntu babby
>>52391344
Free BSD
>>52392407
I hear all the BSD people raving about it. How about what are the disadvantages of BSD compared to Linux? Any compatibility issues? Software? Ease of use / user-friendly?
Why should someone using Debian like myself switch to BSD?
I want to ecrypt my bootable USB which runs mint and would like to have a password prompt for my usb at boot. how can i do this?
>>52392527
* encrypt
Using xubuntu. Having trouble finding a script to resize windows to take up half the screen via keyboard shortcut. Any hints? Thanks.
>>52392273
/fug/ is a good name; it invokes the feeling of linux desktop users, and also doesn't look too much like /fit/
What does Ubuntu have that makes it a little prettier than Debian with the scroll bars, the quick reply post button, etc.? What am I missing?
>>52392273
Fuck off Topcuck420.
>>52393176
>what is gtk
>>52393025
I've said this before, but /fug/ already exists on /vp/. And given how weird their /fug/ is, I don't think we should share names.
>>52393025
>>52392200
>>52392219
Some name ideas:
/flt/ - Friendly Linux Thread
/fglt/ - Friendly GNU/Linux Thread
/f*t/ - Friendly *nix Thread
/fut/ or /fubt/ - Friendly Unix-based Thread
/flt/ - Friendly GNU+Linux Thread
/flt/ - Friendly Linux+GNU Thread
I personally like the last: mostly everything is kept the same, and FSFers are technically satisfied.
>>52393186
What?
Personally I just think it's an amusing initialism.
>>52393211
Why would we appease Stallmanists? They're worse than Stalinists. FSF should vanish and GNU should change their name to Linux.
>>52393202
I'm actually having the same problem with debian, my gtk controls are really shitty. It's a base install of debian xfce
>>52393243
Here is an example of it
>>52393350
Install a decent gtk theme and set it with something like lxappareance or whatever xfce uses for that.
>>52393211
We should keep the flt but call it Friendly Gnu/Linux Thread.
Frankly, I don't understand why everybody is so butthurt about what to call it. The way I look at it, it's the Linux Kernel with many GNU programs forming the base operating system.
"Linux" is a good shorthand, "GNU/Linux" is a good professional sort of name.
Though I understand some people hate Richard Stallman for some reason.
>>52393233
Why do people hate Richard Stallman? He seems like a guy just fighting for freedom of software like the rest of us.
Whats the best windows decoration and font to have with plasma 5? I want my ui to have some pizazz. Is there also some sort of dock utility that can be added?
So what do I do to clean up my system? I just noticed that I am using almost 10GB on my / partition.
What's the best way to find and clean up detritus and unused shit?
Running Fedora 23.
I'm creating a bootable Linux drive for the first time and want to know what size (if any) is a reasonable size for persistent storage on a 4gb USB stick. I'm using Mint if that makes a difference.
>>52393607
He's sort of a giant nag who produces little of actual value. Some people hate Linus because he's mean to bad programmers, but nobody denies his work leading the kernel development.
>fighting for freedom of software like the rest of us
sometimes it matters more for software to just work
>>52392636
wmctrl
>>52393699
Delete anime.
>>52394036
Only anime I have is Cowboy Bebop. And it's on my fileserver.
>install opensuse
>root password required for everything
>can't even gksudo
Fuck this.
>>52393760
>sometimes it matters more for software to just work
Since when are macfags allowed in this thread?
Go eating shit with your hands.
>>52393607
Neo /g/ hates Stallman, because they're all windows users from facebook parotting each others. As bad side effect, also linuxfags start to parrot these memes, some ironic, some unironically. I actually bet nobody of these Stallman haters have actually any idea who Stallman is and what he does, except knowing that "he eats shit from his foot".
> Gentoo Linux
> upower-pm-utils
> laptop_mode_tools
> All correct kernel configuration
> Xscreensaver
> Closing laptop lid just resets brightness to 100 without locking shit
Why? If I leave it for like 10 minutes it freezes my mouse and cuts to Xscreensaver after a few seconds, then it's locked, but I'd really rather it lock when it suspends.
Fairly confident it suspends when I close the laptop. I read something about Xscreensaver obstructing it but unmerging it didn't solve shit.
> inb4 don't use gentoo
> inb4 jewgle
I am googling, and I am trying to solve this myself. If anyone here can help, I feel that would be a friendly thing to do.
>compiling wine
That was kind of fun. Any disadvantages right away? apt doesn't know this thing exists, right?
> Linux newfag
> Fall for every meme /g/ shills
> install gentoo to laptop
> don't shower
> barely eat
> sleep where I drop
> spend two weeks working out a kernel panic
> another three days getting a DE working
Why the fuck is it so goddamn hard to install things? Running bunsenlabs linux, but I experienced these same issues on Debian. (I know this is my fault for not being knowledgable and not the fault of the distro, but I'm just frustrated)
So I try to install screenfetch. sudo apt-get install screenfetch. Not found. I kind of expected it. I find a help page with a git command showing how to do it. I try it. Git is not installed. I try to install git.
E: Unable to locate package git-core
Now I'm frustrated. I assume I need to add a repository, but how do I know which one git is a part of? I can't just google "what repository is git a part of", because it gets no results. Maybe I should just go back to ubuntu, but then I wouldn't learn from this experience. Is there someone who knows what problem I'm having, and can explain it to me? (And hopefully explain what I need to do to solve it?)
>>52394387
>Why the fuck is it so goddamn hard to install things?
because you're using APT-based distros, friendo
>>52394387
Add these and try https://pkg.bunsenlabs.org/
Also were you trying apt-get install git-core? Try just git
>>52394387
Did you try apt-cache search git?
>>52394400
Leave. Thanks.
>>52394387curl -sL https://github.com/KittyKatt/screenFetch/raw/master/screenfetch-dev | bash
>>52393243
Did you apply it from ~/.themes? If not try moving the theme to /usr/share/themes and reapply
so I have a VM (Debian testing as both the host and the guest) that I use for torrenting. I wanted to ditch virtualbox, both because it has freedom problems but more immediately because it apparently artificially limits network bandwidth to something like 25MB/s per VM. So I installed virt-manager to do it on KVM instead.
And now file transfers are speedy, but the guest's UI is dog fucking slow. Opening a terminal window, for example, can take several seconds from the click to the time the window appears, and another few seconds before the prompt shows up, during which the guest uses a fuckton of CPU. Watching htop in the guest while it's being slow reveals that the vast bulk of the CPU load is coming from the X server.
>SPICE
I enabled that following the instructions on http://www.linux-kvm.org/page/SPICE, nothing changed.
>fuck GUIs, do it from the command line!
I do not have the networking chops to set up a VPN connection from the command line without networkmanager.
any other ideas? Or should I just throw my hands up and go back to virtualbox?
>>52394424
> defending APT
APT a shit, man. Portage, RPM, and Pacman are superior.
>>52394500
I told you to leave because your meme bullshit doesn't help anyone here. Don't forget to close the door, thanks.
>>52394529
Not the same guy.
I can appreciate telling people not to just shit on things without giving actual help, though.
>>52394422
Package git is not available, but is referred to by another package.
This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
is only available from another source
E: Package 'git' has no installation candidate
>>52394405
Added deb http://pkg.bunsenlabs.org/debian bunsen-hydrogen main and deb http://pkg.bunsenlabs.org/debian jessie-backports main. ran apt-get update and upgrade. when I run apt-get install git I still get: Package git is not available, but it is referred to by another package.
This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
is only available from another source
E: Package 'git' has no installation candidate
>>52394236
Have confirmed the issue is that it doesn't lock on suspension.
pm-suspend suspends it, and it does the same shit the laptop being closed does, so I know that's not the issue.
Now the question is why the fuck it's not locking.
>>52394438
I mean, it technically works but I'm more trying to solve my installation problems than find workarounds. Thanks anyway though
Should I install manjaro or arch?
I don't care if manjaro is bloated. My arch would end up bloated as well.
I was gonna post this in /sqt/ but here is probably just as good. Is link related a good general-purpose desktop build? I plan on running linux and not gayming on it. Also any similar build guides or recommendations would be appreciated
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/dxDzqs
>>52394754
Go to /sqt/ goddammit.
A few more bucks gets you gold and more power.
I think you're getting fucked by that green HDD.
Also, are you really sure spending that much on a keyboard? I've seen Logitech's g710 and g710+ go on sale the past few weeks.
>>52394733
More info: I've used arch before, but I don't have as much time to fuck around with broken linux installations as I used to.
Is manjaro really any more stable than arch?
>>52391192
So does Microsoft One run in linux under WINE?
I really enjoy it because of cloud features, but I hate having to boot into Windows to use it on my x220T. Also sorta devalues the fact that i never use the tablet feature
>>52394843
One Note*
>>52394824
thanks mate. A few of the things on pcpartpicker I could get for cheaper by shopping around. The build on there is just a sort of rough draft. Anything in particular I should look out for when buying linux compatible hardware?
What's the first Distro you guys ever used, ever?
My first experience was with Fedora (not sure which one) when I was seven and my brother taught me how to turn on and play Freedroidrpg.
First distro I ran full-time was Fedora 18.
>>52394958
Ubuntu 8
>>52394958
Ubuntu at first, absolutely hated Unity. Devs were clearly riding apple's dick.
>>52395019
I had the opposite experience with GNOME 3.
I actually enjoyed it and found it easy to use, then my brother came along and started talking about how shit it was and shifted my opinion.
Now I run LXDE. I don't think he has a DE at all.
>Have to go through Redhat and Fedora 20 for college
How bad is it gonna be, guys?
i was experimenting around with i3 earlier and found it extremely fucking impressive. probably going to wind up switching over from openbox.
/blog
>>52394958
linux mint with MATE
>>52395107
> Fedora 20
Don't know why they'd make you do that when the earliest version still supported is 22.
At any rate, Fedora isn't bad, it's just a bit different. Spend a bit playing around with it and you'll get the hang of it.
t. figured out how to use basic Fedora functionality when I was seven
>>52394958
Some Ubuntu in 2005/2006.
>>52395126
Why? Explain the hype.
>>52394958
Ubuntu, back in the days of Gnome 2 (don't know what version), on an experimental basis only. I tried several for a few days at a time before settling on Fedora, also with Gnome 2, as my first full-time distro a few months later.
>>52395228
it's surprisingly seamless and intuitive, and from my impression so far, especially so if you are in the terminal a lot and use a lot of console based programs.
try it another one of your virtual terminals nigga
>>52394669
Solved it by telling lm_lid to run xscreensaver-command -lock when it suspends.
Now I'm wondering why it still resets my brightness to 100 when it suspends.
Really pissing me off.
>>52394958
Fist distro I used was knoppix.
It was the one my local lug recommended and it was way easier to install than Debian.
I don't remember the DE but remember being blown away by how great it was.
I quickly switched to Ubuntu and found gnome go be a lot better.
>>52395275
>try it another one of your virtual terminals
I have a Linux question about this. I use ~/.xinitrc to launch my GUI, and the last command is openbox, resulting in the fact that my X session is terminated if openbox is killed. After Googling it, I've just learned how to use an alternate script to launch an X session, and done so using a terminal emulator as the final command, so that I can change window managers within that X session at will. My question is this:
Is there a simple way to use some kind of dummy process as the last command in an xinit script, which does nothing except run until I kill it?
How do I install linux on this?
>>52395725
It would make an okay terminal. Stuff a raspberry pi inside, and install linux to that.
>>52395540
openbox &
>>52391344
Arch
>>52395725
>mod this into a high end gaming rig
This would be amazing
>>52394500
>APT a shit, man. Portage, RPM, and Pacman are superior.
Here are even more ways to do something trivial like installing a program.
Just Werks(R)
>>52395767
>high end gaming rig
>with a low resolution monotone CRT monitor
>which might not even be capable of displaying graphics
>>52395749
Either you don't understand my question or you don't understand xinit scripts (or maybe I don't understand xinit scripts). X exits when it finishes running its init script. If you fork everything that you launch in the script to the background, X will exit immediately, in the amount of time that it takes to launch your programs and fork them to the background (i.e. the amount of time it takes to run the init script, i.e. about half a second). So, you've got to leave something running in the "foreground" of the script (don't know what the correct terminology is for scripts regarding foreground/background processes). When that thing is killed, the script has finished running and the whole X server shuts down. I use openbox as this thing, but it means that I can't change my window manager without rewriting my xinit script or using an alternate one. If there was some dummy process that I could use instead, I could kill openbox and start other window managers at will.
OK, here the thing. I have a friend with a problem. His mother and sister manage to kill Windows on their PC in a month or two, surfing social networks, clicking malwares and stuff, and he is their go-to guy. So, I figured, since they don't need PC for anything other than net surfing and videos/music, why not install linux as primary OS.
So, what would be better for actual retards, Ubuntu or Mint? Which is more user friendly?
>>52395806
Not sure what you're talking about. X will run just fine on its own without any other applications, including DEs or window managers. You sure you didn't fuck up your .xinit?
>>52395816
my mom has been using ubuntu for a year, no issues
>>52395816
For an actual retard, Ubuntu with Cinnamon.
That or Elementary OS, though I have zero experience with it.
This is probably posted here a lot, but which is the best distro for newbies to Linux? Another question, how much configuring/tinkering/technical knowledge is needed to use it? I want to use an OS that lets me do what I want to do easily and smoothly, not having to spend all my time tinkering with everything.
>>52395855
>Ubuntu with Cinnamon
What about Min 17.3 Cinnamon?
>>52395906
iirc Mint is just Ubuntu with Cinnamon, but with a bunch of tweaked crap that makes it not good.
I don't really like Mint. Use Ubuntu with Cinnamon.
>>52395767
Someone do this please.
>>52395805
Couldn't you refit a new monitor so it still looks retro-ish? Although that might defeat the purpose I suppose.
>>52395817
X will run just fine without any other -specific- applications, but it's own init script has to be running, or it exits. Maybe this is a result of a distro-specific configuration of xinit or something like that.
If I have a file called "~/temp" whose only contents are, for example "xfce4-terminal", and I use it as the xinit script by doing "DISPLAY=:1 startx ~/temp", what I get is an X session with only an undecorated terminal in it. If I then kill that terminal, X quits. If I overwrite ~/temp with "sleep 10", I get a black screen (a completely empty X session) for ten seconds, and then X exits ("Server terminated successfully", it says). X will only run as long as the xinit script is doing something. Try it yourself, and tell me what happens.
>>52395725
Also this explains a lot of the design decisions behind vi.
>>52395914
OK, thanks.
>>52395806
try addingexec openbox-sessionto .xinit
then usekill openboxand call the wm you want to use
i havent used openbox in a long time but it might work
>>52395944
So, when you exit openbox it automatically closes X too is what you're saying?
Doesn't sound like an issue with X. Check openbox to see if it has some kind of shutdown script that's closing X.
>>52395944
http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/42901/how-to-do-nothing-forever-in-an-elegant-way
>>52394958
>all these plebs using Linux from 2000
Softlanding Linux System.
>>52395918
>Couldn't you refit a new monitor so it still looks retro-ish?
you could, thats hipster mentality
>>52395883
Ubuntu. I'm going to bed right now but I'll add more help in the morning if this thread is still up
>>52395966
>exec openbox-session
I actually do this already. According to the link below, the only difference between "openbox" and "openbox-session" is that openbox-session runs startup scripts for openbox, which you can use like ~/xinitrc if you're launching X via some method that doesn't use ~/.xinitrc (like a DM, which, if I'm right, simply use their own xinit scripts in its place). Adding "exec openbox session" essentially makes the openbox startup script part of the xinit script, but this doesn't solve the problem that X quits when the xinit script finishes running unless there's something in the openbox startup script that never finishes running.
https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=114602
>>52396106
It's not a problem with openbox because "sleep" does it too. I don't think sleep is shutting down my X session. It's not even really a "problem", exactly, except in that it produces a situation where you can't change absolutely everything that's running within an X session without restarting it. Why should X run when it has nothing to do, after all? An X session with absolutely nothing in it is a pretty useless thing.
>>52396143
>tail -f /dev/null
That'd certainly do it, although it seems that there is a bug related to using tail -f on device files that I don't understand at first glance. "while true; do sleep 1000000000d; done" would also work, I guess. I don't know enough about "sleep" to know if there is any disadvantage to doing this.
Ok, I am have a problem with my openELEC media center. I have to execute a series of commands which I have to execute to get screen mirroring to my monitor to be recognized and to set the correct resolution.
They are:
xrandr --newmode "1080p" 173.00 1920 2048 2248 2576 1080 1083 1088 1120 -hsync +vsync
xrandr --addmode VGA-0 1080p
xrandr --output VGA-0 --mode 1080p
How would I automate this to be done at boot time?
>>52394958
Slackware
>>52396302
Reading the stackexchange posts, you could also write a simple C program which uses the pause() syscall:#include <unistd.h>
int main()
{
pause();
return 0;
}
>>52391192
Ok I'm trying to run i3lock on hibernation. So what I did is make a file in /etc/pm/sleep.d/ called 'lock'. It contains the following:
#!/bin/sh
case "$1" in
hibernate|suspend)
/usr/bin/i3lock -c 000000 &
;;
thaw|resume)
;;
*) exit $NA
;;
esac
But nothing happens.
>>52396342
Add those lines to your .xinitrc (before the last line)
>>52396360
Yeah, I like that one. I should have read further down. I also didn't know that "sleep infinity" was a thing that worked. Thanks.
Running kde on arch and it won't connect to any wi-fi network. Help?
>>52391192
>>52391192
Best IDE and compiler for C programming on Ubuntu?
>>52397098
>IDE
vim
>compiler
gcc
>>52397114
Thanks.
What's your opinion on Eclipse?
>>52397127
Shit.
How to best experience Window Maker without Arch or Gentoo? I want to get comfy on an X41.
Has any of you used WMLive? Seems good, the guy who made it even states he used a T61 for developement.
>>52397114
>VIM
>IDE
have fun going through hoops to ultimately get something that doesnt work as well as an ide with vi keys
>>52397139
Discarded
>>52397127
Eclipse is nice but quite bulky too. If you are going to need it's functions it's quite nice, but most people could probably do just as well with a good text editor (Emacs or Vim) and compile in terminal.
>>52397336
Is it a one line Bash command to compile it in the terminal? If so, what is it?
I may grab an IDE like Eclipse or CodeBlocks for quickly testing code but as for learning how to write and compile it more manually, I guess using Vim and GCC is viable.
>>52391192
Once I decided that it would be handy to always have have an USB stick with GNU+Linux(TM) on it with me. So I literally installed Ubuntu (inb4: >Ubuntu) to a 16 GB USB drive and it worked fine except one little unfortunate issue: on every boot fsck checked root partition and found few orphaned files, until the whole thing got finally unbootable. Obviously the system powered off itself before the partition was synced every time (I personally blame systemd, it is well known for SIGKILLing processes on shitdown for sake of saving few seconds). Does anybody know how to fix this? Or, more generally, how do I make a proper installation on a removable media? Please no bullshit like so called `Live USB' Linux which is completely unsuitable for prolonged use.
>>52397389
> Is it a one line Bash command to compile it in the terminal? If so, what is it?
It's called `make'.
>>52396364
Just in case: did you `chmod +x lock'?
Which distro is best for school laptop, skill is not a limiting factor.
Do i just go with fedora or debian?
I just installed my 'first' linux distro, and i cant get my headset to work
Turtle Beach PX21 usb
BunsenLabs newest distro
wat do i do?
>>52397511
I don't think so.
>>52397511
to be honest I don't even know what that does. I now chmod handles permissions, that's it.
Has anyone successfully gotten VFIO / Vt-d running on Debian?
I'm following the Debian guide at https://wiki.debian.org/VGAPassthrough
I'm stuck at the drivers association step, where I'm supposed to tee the make and model of the device to /sys/bus/pci/drivers/vfio-pci/new_id.
Debian complains that the vfio-pci path can't be found.
I have already verified that I have the vfio and vfio_pci modules.
>>52397874
Yes.
>>52398318
Makes the file executable for all.
>>52397874
Depends on what you are looking for of course. If you want to build your system from scratch go Arch or even Gentoo. On the other extreme, if you want everything in a GUI and have maximal support, go Ubuntu. If you want something in between run Fedora or Debian, Debian being more stable and Fedora being more bleeding edge.
>>52398339
ok I did that, still nothing happening, do I need to restart my pc first?
>>52398339
running it like this
./lock hibernate
works. But it still doesn't run when I close my laptop which makes it sleep.
>>52396700
I'm just going to assume you're using network manager.
Right click on the network icon, select your wifi network, go to "wifi-security", enter whatever passphrase your using and try again.
>>52398339
ok I restarted my pc because it still doesn't work. But that did nothing either.
>>52398374
Where did you read the info about /etc/pm/sleep.d/ scripts? What distro are you using?
Hello /flt/
I noticed that in plenty of applications I'm using (such as puddletag or qbittorent) the popup windows like pic related are completely unmovable and often appear blank without letting me do anything other than force quit the application. Any idea how to fix it or what's causing it? Sorry if it's really stupid question.
>>52398374
>>52398357
I'm not totally sure, but I think there's supposed to be some kind of number infront of filename. i.e., "lock" should be "90lock", or something. afaik, the number has to do with order. It might be that whatever is running those scripts, ignores files with wrongly formatted names.
naming it "99lock" will make it run as the last thing before sleep i think.
>>52398403
What window manager/DE?
>>52398429
Nemo/Cinnamon
Installing arch linux, being ready to partition hdds for home,root,swap and boot volume, having different hdds for different purposes (Downloads,programs,windows). Where should i link future linux partitions to correspond with windows?
>>52394958
RH7 I believe.
Is there a good frontend for Retroarch on linux?? Nothing full-screen oriented, something more like the OpenEmu approach. Does anything like that exist?
>>52398528
which partitions will benefit more from speed of harddrive? swap root boot?
>>52398528
>2016
>making more than 2 partitions
>>52398613
i dont understand your explotion..
>>52398597
root and swap imo. The latter depends on how much ram you use. If you have e.g., 8gb in your PC and all you use it for are browsing facebook, then you'll probably never going to be using your swap partition and you might as well drop it.
>>52398528
>Where should i link future linux partitions to correspond with windows?
What on earth does this mean? Explain what you want to do in more precise terms.
>which partitions will benefit more from speed of harddrive? swap root boot?
Root, but you should just put all of these into the ssd.
>>52398637
> explotion
What?
>>52398669
let me elaborate, a volume that stores installed programs is mapped as root in a linux distro, correct me if i am wrong. So with the same principal what should be the assignments for home, swap and boot.>>52398652
>>52398669
replies was helpful enough
>>52398398
I read about these scripts on random support websites like stackexchange and stuff. My distro is Arch Linux
>>52398776
>arch
You're probably using systemd then. Check out
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Power_management#Sleep_hooks
>>52398413
it's 99lock now, still doesn't work, restarted and did chmod -x 99lock
>>52398776
You need pm-utils for those scripts to work. Don't use it, unless you know why you need it. It's mostly useless bloat nowadays when systemd can handle suspend/hibernate. Instead, use systemd service files: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Power_management#Suspend.2Fresume_service_files
For example, my suspend service file looks like this[Unit]
Description=User suspend actions
After=graphical.target
Before=sleep.target
[Service]
User=%I
Type=forking
Environment=DISPLAY=:0
ExecStart=/usr/bin/i3lock -c 000000
[Install]
WantedBy=sleep.target
im trying to use Dolphin on XFCE because thunar is shit, but for some reason it wont set default applications, causing all my images to be opened in firefox instead of ristretto. setting it on the open as/other menu doesnt do shit and neither does setting it in kcmshell4 filetypes. anyone know how to fix this?
>>52398838
followed the example here:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Power_management#Hooks_in_.2Fusr.2Flib.2Fsystemd.2Fsystem-sleep
it's now called 99lock.sh and contains the following:
#!/bin/sh
case $1$2 in
pre/*)
i3lock -c 000000
;;
post/*)
;;
esac
Still nothing
>>52398875
can I just copy that into [email protected]?
>>52398996
Yeah, but the file has to be named[email protected]where you replace USERNAME with your username. The wiki is a bit misleading about that. Never got around to editing it.
>>52398928
nevermind, i fucked with ~/.local/share/applications/mimeapps.list yet again and it unfucked itself
>>52399036
yeah ok trying this now
>>52399036
still not working. Do I have to tell it somewhere that this file has been added? Do I need to restart?
>>52399036
Ignore this, you don't need the USERNAME part in the filename after all. You just need it when enabling/starting the service.
>>52399072sudo systemctl enable [email protected]
sudo systemctl start [email protected]
And reboot
>>52399036
while waiting for an answer I decided to restart it anyway, but it doesn't work.
>>52399109
that second command executed the script it seems, will be restarting now.
>>52398341
This was the answer i was looking for. Thanks.
>>52399109
Nice, now it works perfectly. Thanks mate!
Using MPV and got lain from coalgirls. Why isn't it playing in Japanese? Even if i change audio track to off/jap/eng, it either mutes it or plays English.
>>52399541
do ffprobe filename and see what audio tracks it actually contains.
>>52399574
OK nvm, both English and Japanese audio is working. Turns out the opening is supposed to be in English. I feel silly now.
>>52393607
Every time I've ever heard him speak he comes off as an asshole.
>>52399825
And you don't seem to understand
When I ps, I only see the programs I started from the open terminal, but there are other instances of programs running behind. How do I get their process id's and kill them or do whatever?
>>52399887
Understand what?
This guy is talking about Manjaro Linux 15.12 XFCE. What dock is that? Can you move the start menu into this dock and remove the task bar altogether?
>>52400038
i dont use docks so i am not positive, but it could just be a modified cairo-dock.
>>52399892
I try not to tell people to RTFM in this thread, but you should probably have a look through the ps man page.
The short answer is "ps -e". -e shows you all processes. -A does the same thing. -f gives you more information ("full format"), so "ps -ef" is the most complete process list.
You can use -C to "select by command name". If you want to kill Thunar, for example, "ps -C thunar" will show you all Thunar processes. You can also use -fC to get STIME, which is the time that the process was started. STIME is sometimes useful for distinguishing otherwise similar processes from one another.
Hello everyone!
I need some help with vim here.
I messed up somewhere somehow and now my .vimrc wont get sourced.
It just wont load it.
Cleared everything out and just wrote this in it:filetype plugin on
filetype indent on
syntax enable
set ruler
but it does not work.
Some help please? want to install some plugins but all the bundlemanagers wont work
>>52400038
Looks like Docky. I prefer Plank, yet don't I use either anymore.
I have just installed Debian. Whenever I try to install packages, it gives me an error saying invalid permissions. My account is administrator. Also, my sources list is fucked up because the bottom lines are commented out because they could not be completed for some reason. I cannot install a text editor to fix the file as the permissions are not letting me.
>>52400038
>Can you move the start menu into this dock and remove the task bar altogether?
Is the applications menu the only thing keeping you from removing your panel ?
If so, you should know that xfce has other ways to access that menu, either by right clicking on your desktop or pressing Alt+F1 by default.
Also, it could be any dock. cairo-dock, docky, and plank can all look like that. You may even be able to configure an xfce panel to look like that.
>>52399994
That was a string from opening song
>>52400313
I'm not familiar enough with Debian to know for sure what it means for a user to be an "administrator", but I suspect that it just means you're in the sudoers file. That it, your user has permission do do things with root privileges using the "sudo" command. There are two ways to do things with root privileges. Using sudo you can, if you're in the sudoers file, execute things with root privileges after entering your own password (or not, as specified by the sudoers file). The other way is to log in as root using the root password.
Can I manually update the kernel version of my installed distro? I love Linux Mint and I may use it as well on my main pc, which I use for playing games when at home and I would like not being stuck in Mint's outdated kernel. I've heard OpenSUSE has its kernel up-to-date. Also, AMD drivers are certified to work with it, what do you think? Thanks in advance
>>52400437
>I would like not being stuck in Mint's outdated kernel.
Have you bought hardware that doesnt work with mint's lts kernel?
If not, why on earth does it bother you?
I have a weird desire to choose which desktop environment I want to run on a given day when starting the computer.
But I have no idea how to do it, if I use runlevel 3 I can't start an X session as far as I know. And when I use init 5 it just sends me back to whatever I was using. Which configuration should I modify to change this? Or is there a way to just login to command line and do for example gnome-session or some other DE?
My problem is I think I don't know how to login to CLI that can start an x session.
>>52400437
Without knowing anything about Mint, I'm going to say that it's possible but it's not supported. I don't actually think that it would be that hard, but there won't be any documentation to help you with any problems that you might run into and the distro maintainers won't be sympathetic to your cause.
It's a better idea to use something that works the way you want it to under the hood and customize the UI to your liking than to do it the other way around. Whatever it is that you like about Mint, you could probably achieve the same thing yourself in a more cutting edge distro in a way that is supported.
>>52400475
So you mean kernel updates are mostly compatibility issue solving? It does not mean thet my system could be more efficient on a newer one?
>>52400505
So... is OpenSuse a viable option?
>>52400520
More viable than Mint.
>>52400344
What I really want is a Windows 10 style task bar with starters and such. I couldn't find out how to do this in XFCE.
>>52400507
>So you mean kernel updates are mostly compatibility issue solving?
Yeah? Most kernel updates are either security updates or hardware driver updates.
Even IF you would get any performance difference, it would be like 0,5% difference and only in a specific workload.
Basically it's not worth the effort.
Not even mentioning that if you switched to something that's not *buntu or buntu based you'd have to install your GPU drivers manually.
Also kernel and xorg version updates on a rolling release distro like opensuse would break your proprietary drivers a LOT.
Just stick with mint, it's based on the lts release of ubuntu. The most hassle-free experience you'll ever get from linux
>>52400488
You could use a display manager. Most if not all display managers let you pick which or your installed DEs to use when you log in. If you want to do it from the command line, then you could write multiple xinit scripts and specify which one you want to use when you run startx. Some DEs have commands that you can run to start them, and others don't.
>>52400607
Thanks, going for SLiM now.
>>52400745
>SLiM
Good luck running that deprecated piece of shit.
>>52400558
How is the Windows 10 taskbar different from any other taskbar?
XFCE has a taskbar by default, which includes "starters and such".
>>52400745
slim is fucking abandonware, it was discontinued some time ago.
Do a little research you dum negro
>>52393350
>>52393176
Bumping this.
