U can get a blank bluray for ~1-2$
21,5 go
U can put 2 movies in 1080p (h264)
U can put a whole season of ur animu (24 episode in 1080p)
U cant fuck all ur 3To of data by drop it like a HardDrive
The best bluray disk have at least 10 years of lifetime, teorically 50 for the panasonics
>>52326904
And apparently you can put English lessons on them.
>>52326974
im not born in a english country, if u can tell where my errors were instead of being a faggot thats will help me
I need all my stuff in one area. I just scroll through and decide what I want to watch.
Switching discs to watch something? and having to find it. I got bored of that when DVDr's were big enough to hold aXXo movies.
The movies I get now are 1-2 GB in size and watchable so my 3 TB drives can store plenty. If I did want a backup I would just back it up and update every now and then to assure it's current.
discs just seem too much of a hassle for anything that spans across 5 or more. For example Bluray would be good for my software archive that is less than one disc or music also but when I got 1,700 movies I'm not trying to leave my computer and flip through books and shit to see what I'd like to see. Whatever I'm in the mood for being two clicks and a scroll away is just too convenient.
>>52327026
have fun to redownload your 3To when it will break
also i kept only the movies and anim that i personnaly loved and would like to rewatch
i don't stock 3To of movie that i will not watch again for the most of it
>>52326904
>U can put a whole season of ur animu (24 episode in 1080p)
lol you clearly do not use bloatgirls.
>>52326904
Fucking french cunts, I swear
>>52327077
and u can class it in a case, i have 2 case of 100, one for anim, and one for movies, they are still half empty
>>52327077
Have fun burning all that shit and keeping the book full of BluRays around. have fun not being able to just delete what you got bored of so you can use the space for something else instead of tossing a BluRay loosing the money you invested or keeping it around even if you don't want it.
>>52327095
the internet belongs to le France
>>52327128
Sure thing, Ahmed.
Can someone explain how discs and other physical media have lifespans?
I know that vinyl records and stuff last much longer, but how does any of this stuff "die" eventually?
>>52327152
data rot
>>52327116
you only lose ~1$ in that case, ok its more expensive than HDD, and it take more time to burn it but whatever ? you don't need to stay and watch the bar progress, you can actually watch your anim while it burn
>>52327152
Entropy.
It is a fucking property of the universe. Look it up.
>also you will die someday o_o
>>52327152
It's a meme based on some ridiculously worst-case scenario/pessimistic theories.
I don't know of any old CD that has actually "rotted."
>>52327173
Explain.
>>52327189
But I don't wanna (Google it, or die)
>>52327207
This seems accurate in my experience. I still have CDs from a long time ago that still work perfectly.
>>52327176
Have fun wearing out your BluRay drive when you constantly use it to play shit and hearing that churning sound when you want to jump seek through the disc. Have fun when you get coasters every now and then.
>>52327152
All platic degrade over time. CD and BD are not exceptions. As they degrade their optical properties change and data gets corrupted. Depending on the latitude and clime as well as the storage conditions CD/BD can last as little as 5 years.
>>52327254
why the fuk do i need to wearing out my library of movie ?
i watch movie at home, and when im at friend house we watch movie in streaming or with HIS library
Seeing that French is your first language, we call Go GB. All of the storage sizes in English are in bits or bytes, so Gb or GB
I'm looking forward to buy a bluray in the future, a bluray "VCR" would also be cool.
>>52327308
So why would you store it to begin with? backup?
If that's the case why don't you get a 3 TB drive back your shit up and put it somewhere secure so it doesn't get bumped or some shit?
>>52327314
x-)
we use octect for bytes
and bit for bit
>>52327077
>not having a raid pairing
>>52327314
>>52327341
yep. in french - octet, derived from the fact that a byte has 8 bits ;)
>>52326974
Didnt even notice that. Not my native lenguaje tough
>>52327337
yes backup
and u can still bumped it when u take it to add/watch movies
because i don't live in a box and i dont care of the space that take 50cm2 of disk
and because it feel good to put a disk to watch a movie, to associate your virtual data with a pysical object
>>52326904
>U can get a blank bluray for ~1-2$
>21,5 go
21,5gb
>U can put 2 movies in 1080p (h264)
>U can put a whole season of ur animu (24 episode in 1080p)
Episodes
>U cant fuck all ur 3To of data by drop it like a HardDrive
3Tb, Dropping
>The best bluray disk have at least 10 years of lifetime, teorically 50 for the panasonics
Disks, a 10 year lifespan, theoretically.
De rien mon ami!
>>52326904
What do people even use these days for massive long-term storage?
Tape backup? Is it an unsolved problem?
>>52327456
Legal blu-rays.
Or you could use a reliable HDD like HGST or an SSD. You can get a very reliable 512GB SSD for almost $200 right now.
You can also compress 1080p blu-ray movies to 16 CRF 10-bit H264 which takes up ~8-10 GB per 120 minutes for action movies. It will pretty much look exactly like the original blu-ray to the human eye even up-close.
Blu-rays are a neat technology but no longer needed.
>>52327456
Yes because everyone owns a 2000$ tape reader/writer so you can borrow your neighbours if yours breaks down
>>52327450
merci bien !
>>52327077
>I don't do backups.
>Also, I'm French.
>>52327077
Anon. It's TB not To
>>52327728
>>I don't do backups.
if your french u know that some anime in vostfr dont stay for a long time in Internet, because of site like wakanim or adn
>>52327456
Panasonic/Sony 50GB disks with PAR3 redundancy files, I wouldnt waste time storing video files though
>blu-ray
jusqu'à demain peut-être desu
>>52327094
Why is coalgirls stuff so bloated exactly? I've found 2gb 1080p 10-bit flac episodes from them before. How can it get that big?
I didn't even know Blu-ray had blanks
>>52330080
>flac
There's your problem.
>>52330509
Some of the flac stuff is smaller than non-flac and some of it is fucking massive.
>>52327207
My friend has some CDs he burnt like 20 years ago or more that now don't read or even get recognised as music discs any more.
>2016
>still not on cloud
lmaoing @ your lives
When possible I usually download 720p movie rips with filesize between 4 and 4.5GB.
The filesize is small enough to still fit on a single layer DVD which are piss cheap.
While still offering somewhat decent quality of video and audio.
Would burn them on bluray but then again not everyone has a blu ray reader and I borrow movies I have to my friends so they don't have to destroy their eyesight watching 800mb yify garbage.
I don't really care about TV series enough to burn them for long term storage.
>>52327077
My two 2TB hd's are each 5 years old, and will definitely break soon. When that happens, I will let those movies go into the void and spend my life doing something else productive, like volunteering more.
There's no need to re-download the movies. Are you really going to hoard and rewatch them for another 5 years? Change your life, make something of yourself
>>52330712
>dvd storage
>>52330817
>smug animeshit girl
Never fucking reply to me again unless you have something to contribute to the thread.
>>52327152
>Chimay
goooood shit
>>52331001
>>52330809
>implying u cant do something of your life when you dl movies
>>52327019
>U can put 2 movies in 1080p
Put where? On the roof?
>by drop it like a hard drive
Dropping
>the best bluray disk have 10 years of lifetime
The best bluray disks have a lifetime of 10 years
>teorically
What the fuck are you even doing? It's spelled theoretically, enable spell checker in chrome/chromium and look it up if it's underlined
>50 for the panasonics
That sounds like shit, maybe 50 years for the panasonic ones would work
>>52332269
Fuck off Ms.Birr
>>52332269
Don't be such a rude cunt dickhead.
>>52330712
>720 movie rips with a filesize of 4 gb
I'm all about bitrates, but why the fuck would you do that? 720p is a huge tradeoff for less artifacting. I'm pretty sure a 1080p videofile looks much better at the same filesize 9 times out of 10
>>52332356
>>52332370
What the fuck is your problem? I gave him legit advice on the spell checker. He's not gonna learn english by just people telling him his text is shit. Maybe he'll get it right next time if you tell him what he fucked up.
>>52332370
>>52332356
he's right to correct me, my english is poor and the fact that im french dont justify it
>>52326904
You can get a blank bluray disk for one to two dollars. The storage space on a bluray disk is twenty-one and five-tenths gigabytes. You can store two movies at a resolution of ten-eighty pee encoded at aych two-sixty-four. Separately from this you could store twenty-four episodes from your colloquially referenced Japanese cartoons at a resolution of ten-eighty pee. If in the extremely unfortunate event that you pop lock it and drop it your data will be safe unlike what would occur if you dropped a harddrive. The best bluray disks have a lifetime of ten years (Or a decade as I like to call it.). Panasonic disks have a hypotheoretically lifespan of my grandma.
>>52326904
not re-writable (unless you pay a shitton more), and worst of all you're wasting your time burning them. optical media is dead
>>52327308
"Wearing out" means using it until it breaks
>>52332467
>>52332745
I know its just that my 8 grade Lit teacher used to do this cynical response bull shit on every ones papers instead of saying how to fix or what was actually wrong.
>>52326904
>U cant fuck all ur 3To of data by drop it like a HardDrive
I don't drop my HDDs
>The best bluray disk have at least 10 years of lifetime, teorically 50 for the panasonics
I have 10 year old HDDs that still work, those HDDs also have more than 25GB.
>>52330080
They used to apply high CRF values on their encodes that sometimes would be pure placebo, not sure if they still do or not
I used to backup all the anime I watched. One day, when I opened up my DVD book of animu, I realized from the dust accumulated on it that I haven't rewatchex any of the crap I downloaded. With the exception of showing it to friends and what not. But nowadays, I have no friends to speak of. I threw away my collection. And only have a 1tv internal hdd in raid 1 for backups, which I erase if I didn't go back to watch it after a year. I honestly don't run out of space. I keep a 500gb ssd for muh gaming and it's more than enough for me.
>>52330556
That depends on the media quality. Music burnt on verbatim discs will last much longer than if they were recorded on <insert unknown brand here> discs.
>>52326904
>U
>ur
>>52332404
Are you sure? Try pausing a “1080p“ rip at a high-motion scene and compare the ammount of artifacts and blurriness
>>52333039
Pretty much this, I used to keep backup of everything I download, movies, anime etc. Then I realised I am not gonna rewatch any of that ever again. So I just deleted it.
>>52327173
>he's not keeping his discs in the coolest part of the fridge.
>>52333525
And vertically to avoid warping
>>52326904
You may be right about movies, but not for series.
A movie=a disk, simple, easy to store and easy to organise but a TV show is composed of seasons and episodes, a disk for an episode is a waste and a disk for a season is not enough and even if it is is bad organised.
The best way I found is a NAS to store and download everything and a media player connected to the TV to play, also if you want to watch whatever you want in your bed you just connect to the nas.
A physical media is nice to have but there's no way disks are actually better
>>52333413
>low bitrate movies are for pausing and analyzing
because region free bluray drives are a bitch to constantly switch with codes
Never even seen blank blurays let alone a bluray burner
I'm surprised that people here are ruder than at /b/. This is my first post in /g/, and probably the last.
BD are actually way better than the posters here described. An avarage BD disk will keep its data fot ~100 years, and a special kind, called M-Disk will hold for a thousand, at least that's what the manufacturer claims. The 5-15 years what others were talking about is true only for CDs and DVDs. This is because the layer wich holds the actual data, in which the so called pits are burnt in by the laser, is an organic compound in the case of CD and DVD and synthetic in the case of BD. This synthetic layer is much more stable, so decays slower.
The case for original, factory-made disks (music, film) is different, because these aren't burnt by laser, but made with a mechanical process much like vinyl disks, and so the pits are better. I don't know exactly how better though. I guess they are deeper and the layer might be different, since it doesn't have to be light sensitive.
The storage of the disks largly influences the lifetime of the data. Optical disks should be stored in a dark, cool, dry environment. Pouring some silica (cat litter (without cat and shit)) in the case might be a good idea.
Archiving on BD is a very good idea in my opinion. If you want a local copy of your data and can't afford taping, it is much cheaper and safer than HDD or SSD. It's quite sad though that modern backup softwares don't support automatic backup to BDs, so you have to manually arrange and burn the disks which is a hassle. AFAIK some manufacturers are developing cheap multiple hundred GB disks for archive purposes, so in the long run it can displace tapes.
I like optical data storage. It's nostalgic to me because once I used this technology daily and happily collected my precious pirated films and software. I don't think it has a place in our everyday lives nowadays, given its low datarate, but for archiving purposes it can be on par with tapes or even better than that.
>>52338157
Linux does not have this problem.
>>52339156
linux also doesn't work for everyday use
