Intended for users of all levels, including absolute beginners.
There are three ways to try Linux, you can:
1) Install a Linux OS on a VM (Virtual Machine/VirtualBox) for "safety purposes"
2) Use the Live ISO directly without installing anything, that way, you can get a "full Linux experience".
3) Go balls deep and overwrite everything with Linux (not recommended)
If you are serious about switching to Linux and if you have Windows dual-booted (recommended for pure newbies),
we recommend you use it exclusively for 2 weeks, and avoid Windows dual booting for that period of time, or it's
likely you will start retreating back to windows instead of getting used to GNU/Linux as your new home and working on
making it feel the way you want it.
>Recommended for beginners:
-Ubuntu MATE
-Debian (For Broadcom devices, use an ISO that includes non-free firmware)
-openSUSE
-LinuxMint (a.k.a Ubuntu LTS + Cinnamon)
Before asking, please find the answers to your questions in resources.
Please be civil, notice the "Friendly" in every Friendly Linux Thread.
Understand that much of your software from Windows will be unavailable, although maybe wine can make up for it.
Resources:
man <insert command here>
your friendly neighborhood search engine
https://www.codecademy.com/en/courses/learn-the-command-line
https://wiki.archlinux.org/
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/
>>52213070
what about kubuntu i heard it's good or newbs
What is Linux (or GNU/Linux for Stallmanists)?
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/GNU/Linux
Babby's First Linux (What distro to choose?)
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Babbies_First_Linux
What software does /g/ recommend? (Please DON'T include the so called infographic -- refer all your recommended software here.)
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/List_of_recommended_GNU/Linux_software
Ricing on Linux (Make it good and functional or make it worse like those at desktop threads)
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/GNU/Linux_ricing
A script designed to ease the transition from Windows to Debian
https://gitgud.io/Chocolate-Chip-Computing/DebianNewbieScript
We now have an entry in the install Gentoo wiki!
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php//flt/
IRC No one uses:
irc://irc.freenode.org:+7000/FriendlyLinux
Why is manjaro a shit. All I hear is security issues with unstable packages, but I really don't care about untested packags
>>52213078
if you have a good computer it is. but KDE is pretty heavy.
>>52213096
trash distro built on top a trash distro
that's trash2.
HOW DO YOU RUN A FUCKING COMMAND AT BOOT
CRON WON'T WORK
RC.LOCAL WON'T WORK
REGISTERED IT AS A SERVICE AND IT WON'T WORK
HOLY SHIT WHY IS LINUX SO FUCKING BROKEN
I have a laptop I did a Debian netinstall with so it was plugged with an ethernet cable during that time. I don't have an issue with it trying to discover DHCP while booting up, but would like it to be faster. What should I change the time values to in dhclient.conf?
Sorry if you've seen this, I posted in the last /flt/ and /sqt/, too.
>>52213078
KDE is a bloated, ugly turd.
so for anyone who uses slackware, how hard or complicated is it?
>>52213070
Okay so I plan on getting my new desktop Linux and W10. W10 for games because I'm not going to fuck with Wine, and Linux for every other conceivable thing.
Can someone please explain the premise of differing Linux distros, and how it works? My friend runs it, warned me that I might have to do a lot of things in "environments". What exactly does this mean?
What are the other hurdles involved? I'm determined, but I jdon't have more than a vague notion of what benefits I get, either. The only familiarity I have is from running Kali maybe 2 or 3 times. This is it.
>>52213070
>Nothing runs on Linux including malware. We'll call that a feature.
>>52213171
Harder than my dick while looking at 2d wmen
>>52213128
You need to set it up as a service or source it as a script in your bash/zsh config files (.zlogin)
>>52213171
It's not hard it's just an outdated method and very convoluted.
How do you rotate a screen in Wayland? For some reason Gnome's Display settings don't allow me to rotate like they do under xorg.
>>52213216
well I've never used slackware and I always like to try before I form an opinion, how exactly is it convoluted?
>>52213241
It exists because a long time ago package managers weren't very good. These days some grandpas don't like to believe that things have moved on.
Anyway, what's the point asking me if you're going use to form your own opinion?
Any advice for eventually getting a career using Linux? I can rice just fine but I'm not sure how to actually make money with it. Every job seems to ask for a minimum of 5 years of sysadmin work.
>>52213266
get certificates from redhat
>>52213266
Get a job ricing out computers for windows users.
>>52213261
I've heard it's difficult and just want to clear a few things up what they meant by it.
Ricing question. I'm on a fresh mint (MATE) install. Is there an easy way to find and maybe even set a bunch of ricey compiz settings?
Any other rice recommendations?
made a thread about this earlier. should've had the decency to post itt
i want to install linux on my 2009 macbook pro. should i partition, or could i safely get away with wiping everything and starting over with a linux distro? this computer is literally just an internet/itunes machine. i never need to actually do any real work with it, so i don't feel i need a familiar os. is there any practical purpose to dual booting?
>>52213343
Yeah it's more difficult than a lot of distros, unless you use one of the hacked together tools for resolving dependencies, then it is pretty easy. But then what's the point in using slackware anyway if you're going to do that.
>>52213358
sounds like you will be good with just wiping everything. apparently most of the stuff will work OOTB with it.
>>52213279
But you can't do that.
>>52213070
>>Recommended for beginners:
>-Ubuntu
kill youself OP
>>52213530
*buntu mate is a great beginner distro, what's your problem?
>>52213540
>windows is great for games, what's your problem?
How I fix my mouse to work properly on the kubuntu desktop? It's not showing pic related when I hold-click somewhere
It's not a hardware issue because the mouse works fine on the desktops of other computers/OS
None of the settings options really seem to address a desktop selection box either which is troubling considering how much I like to use it to drag files around
>>52213540
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CP8CNp-vksc
>>52213627
that's unity. not mate. i don't even use *buntu and am a full-on freetard myself but *buntu mate is fine for beginners. people who want to dig deeper into GNU/Linux will use something else after some time anyway.
>>52213650
That's Ubuntu not Unity. If you talk about the search function, yeah, that's Unity, but other than that, Ubuntu is teaching not to care about Freedom, which is basically straight against every GNU/Linux is about.
If someone wants it comfy and doesnt care about freedom, he should go back to windows.
>>52213530
Ah, that smell when you lose your arguments and resort to edit war.
>>52213650
meh, if its about "fine for beginners" you could also recommend manjaro
>>52213683
i agree partly but i think people who don't care about freedom should also be welcome. maybe they will learn.
Installed fedora 23 on my Lenovo Twist yesterday.
Touch screen worked well. Not too sure what to do with it as programming is way comfier at a desktop
>>52213478
is there a particularly light distribution you'd recommend? i ran ubuntu years ago, so i'm not unfamiliar with it. i guess i'm just wondering what's new since i haven't fucked with linux in so long.
>>52213712
Manjaro isn't recommended because it's semi-rolling release, though.
>>52213683
>implying all people who use Linux care about freedom just like FSFkucks
>MUH FREEDOM
FSF = NSA, they have American-freedom style.
>>52213747
debian can be installed minimally. but so can arch, *buntu or gentoo aswell.
since it's a 2009 macbook pro you will need non-free drivers so http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/8.2.0/amd64/iso-cd/ this should be great. how light do you want it? xfce is nice, customizable and lightweight, i personally use it on almost all my computers but LXDE and LXQT are pretty cool aswell. if it has to be really lightweight a WM would be suited better however. maybe openbox or i3. openbox is the easiest wm to get into imo.
>>52213767
I'm the guy he was arguing with but could you please stop with stupid flamewar soykaf like this? it's /flt/ for a reason. you sound like someone who has just discovered being edgy on the internet.
>>52213792
i guess it doesn't /have/ to be super lightweight. just something that my 2009-tier specs could handle. i may just snag debian since there's so much support for it.
>>52213914
XFCE sounds like a good choice then. just download the iso in the link i posted and install away, you can choose xfce during the install. have fun anon.
>>52213943
thank you, anon :)
>>52214081
>>52214252
>>52214230
>>52214081
maybe someone has use for it, enjoy
>>52214252
>>52214230
>>52214081
do you feel good about yourself?
>>52214252
>>52214230
>>52214081
>le infographics for transexuals
>>52214438
>implying
We're all traps here.
>>52214469
>weight training = bad
jesus fuck
heres eye bleech you faggots
>>52214609
That's not a cute girl, go away.
>>52214469
>>52214706
:3
Im running arch on my laptop, but it seems that something always wants to break, and finals are coming and ill be using this laptop a lot of hours everyday, so I want to be more rock solid. Thinking about putting either fedora or xubuntu on it. What would /flt/ recommend?
>>52214783
Just read about the updates, Arch usually tells its users if some updates "could" break anything and provide solutions. If you want a rock solid OS, install debian.
>>52214783
fedora is roughly at the level of arch
xubuntu is OKish choice IMO
but why get distracted
if at the current point everything works you should just not Syu for a month
I bet you are just trying to avoid studying by telling yourself you need to install fresh OS and dicking with it for 2 days afterwards
I asked in the previous thread
Is there any way I can configure apt so it shows optional dependencies like pacman?
Does gentoo make any sense at all?
I don't think everyone reads the sources before compiling anyway, so where is the point?
>>52214924
Apt does that already >>"Suggested packages:". Maybe just not for geany. Try another program.
>>52214924
So I've been away from the linux scene for a long time. (University and now full-time job).
My main desktop/workstation running Arch has fallen apart as far as the system goes. Can someone fill me in on what's happened in the last year and a half or so?
General things that I heard of but didn't pay attention to:
* systemd a shit
* ubuntu still not any better, more botnet
* arch a shit
* arch-based distros for some reason are ok for some people?
* debian a shit
* fedora a meme
So what to do?
>>52215093
/g/ went full normie
>>52214866
>fedora is roughly at the level of arch
Hardly.
Current stable release (23) uses the 4.2.8 kernel.
I'd say it's the level of debian testing.
With the biggest difference being when something's fucked on fedora it gets fixed immediately while on debian testing you will wait
>>52215040
>>52215020
I see. But none of these suggested packages are explained though.
>>52215093
>So what to do?
Install Gentoo
>>52215139
testing is on 4.3 though. and testing had 4.3 for weeks before arch switched away from 4.2.5
>>52215150
You can always useapt-cache search $programin case youre searching for more.
>>52215178
sudo apt search is enough
>>52215093
Newfag.
>>52215139
arch only recently jump to 4.3.3, it was at 4.2.5 just a bit over a month ago
there is also the linux-lts package which is at 4.1.15 if that's your preference
>>52215191
>sudo
>>52215171
And that's because as mentioned before there were/are problems with the 4.3.x kernel.
Fedora is up to date no doubt about it.
But I don't think It would be THAT wrong to call it a production-oriented distribution.
It great for development. After all redhat made it for that purpose.
>>52215178
Which is similar to $pacman -Ss
I see why people call pacman easier
>>52215241
>using su
>ishgddy
>>52215268
Why using root privs for a simple search?
Don't be retarded.
>>52215319
not him but apt doesn't let you search without root privileges?
lmao
>>52215342
>>52214924 here, it does
>>52215342
It does, that's the joke.
>>52215342
actually it does
>>52215365
>benis
>tfw you install xubuntu on your laptop and it works perfectly
brilliant
About to install Nagios to monitor a few servers, or is there anything better/more reliable/hip?
>>52215394
I'm dualbooting xubuntu lts and already seeing how apt is not convenient
>>52215342
this >>52215241
is making fun of the person who thinks you do
you do not
How is the upgrade path between releases of ubuntu vs fedora?
>>52215400
>About to install Nagios to monitor a few servers, or is there anything better/more reliable/hip?
Icinga, its basically a fork of Nagios that was created when the lead developer of Nagios went apeshit and started suing people.
I'd suggest to go with Icinga2, its a clean rewrite of the whole thing, with a better configuration language, optional clustering and a nicer web frontend.
Xubuntu Working Spaces
How to adjust the borders over which windows can't be maximized to work with multiple monitors?
I want to create my own Desktop Environment, I installed Debian in VM and got Openbox. What other things do I need to create my own environment.
>>52215555
pick your graphical toolkit of choice (or make another one) and start working.
I would also recommend developing on wayland, since there's only a few years before xorg is replaced.
>>52215139
fedora is on the level of arch in the meaning of stability
if some faggot tells you that fedora is stable and fixes are done immediatly then its just not true and faggot really lucked out with fedora or never used it for few days
fedora is not at the level of stability of ubuntu or debian.
>>52215541
>Icinga
That looks nice, I will check it out
>>52215587
Thanks anon. What are some other well known GTKs?
>>52215640
gtk3, qt
>>52215592
lol
been using the same installation since fedora 20 (fedup then dnf system-upgrade).
It bonked on me once, but that was fault of xorg failing to resume from screen blank.
The faulty package was the screensaver, switching back to xscreensaver fixed the problem.
Is there any version of Ubuntu where you don't have to fuck around in terminal just to install programs?
>>52215864
Install synaptic, faggot.
Also learn the fucking cli.
>>52215864
Depends on the software you want to install. There's always Synaptic, or the Ubuntu Software Center.
>>52215864
don't be scared anon. that said all *buntu have frontends for apt. mint has gui for basically everything.
>>52215895
>faggot
>fucking
>friendly linux thread
>>52215864
No, GNU/Linux is a terminal oriented operating system and thus, not for people with novice skills
I'm trying to figure out the best way of 'locking' certain programs (games, for example), until a certain requirement was met (such as entering in the correct answer to a question or test). Just figuring out a system for my son when he gets his first computer.
Any ideas?
>>52215895
>learn the fucking cli
We went through decades of refinement in the software industry just to reach this point where you DON'T need to have coding knowledge to use a computer.
>>52215930
/thread
>>52215967
It's not "coding language". It's simply shortened english. Example: Remove = rm.
That's not hard. Trust me.
>>52215967
sometimes the cli is still more convenient. you can do useful things like
youtube-dl --extract-audio --audio-format opus <video URL>
or
wget -r -P /home/anon/wget/ -A jpeg,jpg,bmp,gif,png https://www.domain.org
>>52215990
Hey anons how do I a package with the arch livecd?
installed GNOME and now every time I boot my system it crashes so I want to remove it.
>>52215953
>mfw best way to hide from the nsa is rice your desktop to be neon green letters on purple background
fuggg
>>52215150apt-cache show $program
packages listed under recommends are not strictly necessary, but will be installed unless you tell apt to not install them
packages listed under suggested provide additional functionality, but will not be installed unless you tell apt to install them
>>52216049
remove a package*
Asking here because i coudnt find anything.
I want to check my hdd state in the background every hour so see if hdparm is working correctly and to tweak it a bit more.
will this script work:cat /etc/checkhdd.sh
#!/bin/bash
date +%Y-%m-%d\ %H:%M:%S
hdparm -C /dev/sda
probably gonna write it down in the crontab like this:@hourly root /etc/checkhdd.sh >> /var/log/hddlog 2>&1
>>52215967
>DON'T need to have coding knowledge to use a computer.
It's not coding you dumb faggot.
Use a mac/windows if it bothers you really.
Rule is simple don't like it = don't use it.
It's not like some fat greasy neckbeard has put a gun to your head and yelled "install gentoo".
>We went through decades of refinement in the software industry
Thank fucking GOD i don't know what I would do without ads, microtransactions, animations and colourful waterworks in my software. God bless software industry
>>52216076
>packages listed under recommends are not strictly necessary, but will be installed unless you tell apt to not install them
I just want to know
-if there is any suggested packages and
-what those packages are designed for
after/befoer the installation
>>52216105
nice blog
>>52215953
remember alonka.exe? her ex bf made her a quiz. this kind of stuff could be integrated in some bash scipts that open and lock permissions for certain programs. you'd need to dive into bash though.
>>52216140
>i have no arguments but mine has to be always on top
>>52215953
>what are permissions
Just create another user, set privileges, dont tell him the root password.
>>52216105
>It's not like some fat greasy neckbeard has put a gun to your head and yelled "install gentoo".
top kek
>>52216121
doapt-cache show $programbefore installation to see suggested and recommended packages
if you need to know what a recommended or suggested package is for, justapt-cache show $suggestedprogram
>>52215930
>not for people with novice skills
The OP is pretty misleading then.
>>52216205
Yes, he has been since the beginning
You have to have adaptability otherwise it really is a harsh OS
>>52215930
The users literally just needs to be able to read the guides and manuals.
>>52216142
>remember alonka.exe
Nope.
>you'd need to dive into bash though
I've got a few years, it'll be fine. Might have to properly program this.
>>52216288
Which is considered as sins by some people
Recently I upgraded from my old card to a r9 390. When in Windows it's actually quieter than my old card, but as soon as I launch linux the fans are going so loud its like the card is trying to fly away.
anyone know what could be going on?
>>52216354
use a newer kernel and the problem goes away. source: i am using a sapphire r9 390.
>>52216049
pls help
>>52216310
a year ago some people here looked through random peoples google docs and found some guys folders in which he had pictures of alonka (a pretty grill from Russia/Ukraine), some videos with loveletters and an .exe file which contained a quiz with questions about their first date and similar that he made. we found both of them. he was alone and embarrassed that we found it. she had some new bf that looks like a douche.
too bad i didn't save the file.
>>52216288
ugh, text and manuals are soooo 80's
i just want to watch cat videos on youtube, man
>>52216450
>i just want to watch cat videos on youtube, man
>man
kek
>>52216378
switch to tty, log in, use the appropriate pacman commands to remove gnome and the dependencies. If you can't do that then you probably should have installed something else.
>>52216049
so remove it
if you can't figure out how, why did you install arch?
>>52216462
>switch to tty
how? arch-chroot?
>>52216439
found the thread: https://archive.rebeccablacktech.com/g/thread/49358066
>>52216516
try using google
>>52216516
Cntrl+Alt+F4
>>52216049
you used some third party installer, didn't you?
chrooting into an offline arch install and managing packages in it is literally part of the normal installation process
>>52216516
christ
ctrl+alt+function keys (usually from 2 to 9, the 1st one is usually your display manager)
I just want a distro for development without "muh freedom" shit blocking me from using non-free software and hardware, etc. What should I use? I'm considering Arch at this point. I have no time to maintain Gentoo anymore.
>>52216512
I know how to use the packman command to remove, but how do I gain access to my installed arch from the livecd, I chrooted and tried to remove the package but it didn't work, said it can't find it.
>>52215953
set permissions to another user (not root, make a user for games)
Then make a launcher which can load the application when a question is answered.
>>52215930
Honestly, the easiest way to make Linux more attractive is just to create programs intended to make people comfortable with the terminal.
IMO, the discomfort is not that it's some complex "coding language": it's that 1) it's so important/inherent to Unix-based systems that you can easily fuck your shit up and 2) it's another set of things to learn, ways to navigate the computer, etc.
I've said this before, but probably the best way to do it would be:
a) Create a well-made game based on standard terminal commands (including a dummy game version of a package manager and repositories). However, don't just make it a tutorial, but an ACTUAL interesting game in itself, that people will willingly go back to. Think of Solitaire and Minesweeper, which both taught functions of the mouse.
b) Either in the above game or as a default shell function, give a preview of what each command will do before the person actually executes it. This could either come in normal, everyday language, or perhaps with a GUI/tooltip/etc. Perhaps give a simple yes/no thing to confirm things (or enter/backspace). Obviously, normal/power users can either install normal shells or turn the previews off, but it might be useful.
>>52216547
give arch a shot
>>52216547
I love Arch because it does not go overboard with whole mu freedum
no bullshit like debian or fedora
just focusing on functionality
>>52216547
debian non-free unstable
>>52216542
>usually from 2 to 9, the 1st one is usually your display manager
lolwut
It's usually 1-6, with graphics on 7-12
Is Arch different? Why?
>>52216542
>>52216535
holy shit, thx guys.
>>52216570
>go overboard
>needing to edit a text file to get non-free software
>>52216557
when people have aspergers, do they know?
>>52216547
>gentoo is more time consuming to maintain
You know that you don't have to sit and watch while things compile, right?
I installed Xubuntu on my personal desktop and laptop after trying 1 or 2 other varieties (i think redhat, ubuntu with gnome, and back-track) required for my college courses . My thought process was I wanted the 'just works' of ubuntu, without the unity desktop. I've been rocking a Xubuntu and Windows 7 dual-boot for the past few years now, and Xubuntu has been (mostly) very solid.
I was wondering if it is a sin to stick with your first choice of distro without ever branching out, if you believe you have found what you are looking for.
>>52216632
fuck off with your life story and retarded question
and thats friendly version of what I have on my mind
>>52216632
If you don't branch out you'll never know whether or not you're missing out on something better. If that doesn't bother you, it doesn't bother me.
>>52215953
make another user, and install all locked programs under the new one
if you want different "locks", make more than one alternate user.
>>52216628
>You know that you don't have to sit and watch while things compile, right?
That's cheating.
>>52216666
salty
>>52216632
No it's not
>>52213078
It is okay.
KDE is a heavy DE. It will use about 300mb ram, if you don't disable anything, so I wouldn't recommend it if you use it on a 12 year old laptop.
If you have 2gb or more, it will be fine.
KDE is probably the best DE out there.
The default applications is a lot better, (dolphin, firefox-kde, okular, kate, kile, gwenview, kolourpaint, krita, krunner etc) is vastly better than the gtk alternatives.
The whole thing can be configured from a GUI which writes to readable config files, so configuring it makes a lot of sense for new users.
You might find that it does too much for you and alternatives is better, but KDE is a great place to start so you know how good it can be.
>>52216587
Yeah it's different, Arch just happens to default to 1.
>>52216632
>I was wondering if it is a sin to stick with your first choice of distro without ever branching out, if you believe you have found what you are looking for.
not unless you start shittalking every other distro
>>52216714
That's not arch, thats your DE
>>52213683
>If someone wants it comfy and doesnt care about freedom, he should go back to windows.
So using free software with a few blobs is not allowed, you must either use all of the blobs or nothing?
That is not a very practical POV
>>52216632
you can't know if you've found what you're looking for if you have tried all the options
Why doesn't history -c work anymore? If I close my terminal window and open it back up, every line is still there.
>>52215139
but debian's dead, anon
>>52216743
He's obviously saying that Arch just happens to use what would normally be tty1 for graphics, which is different from how nearly every other distro does it. Usually 1-6 are terminals, and the graphical seccion is in 7, with empty spaces for additional graphical sessions on 8-12. Using 1 makes it a tiny bit easier to remember and faster to enter, but it also makes things a bit messy if you run multiple graphical sessions.
>>52213683
i'm not going to buy a new network card because it doesn't have muh freedom drivers
in fact, i'm never going to buy any parts to install any OS. if it requires that, it's rubbish.
>>52216763
Works for me on Gentoo. Is it part of the bash package, or something else? I'll tell you what version I have.
Tangential to linux.
I'm SSH into a console box. Is there an optimal set of terminal settings? Like, sometimes when I'm in vi, if I hit cursor keys it'll enter letters into the text. How do I prevent that?
>>52216689
>>52216547
ubuntu
>>52216547
Name me one distro that "blocks" non-free software, lol.
>>52216916
>I have no time to maintain Gentoo anymore.
Newfag spotted.
>>52216763
>>52216852
I don't actually have a 'history' executable, so I guess it's built into bash. I'm using version 4.3. Are you using a different command interpreter?
You could always make an alias like "ch" for "clear history" that clears the file your command interpreter keeps its history in.
>>52215650
I wouldn't mind having fedora boot with that screen.
>>52216609
> top gnu
> Linus torvalds
Do some research fuckstick
> installed Gentoo
> works perfectly in minimal
> install LXDE
> my non-root user has no desktop background, file manager bitches about not being able to open root when nobody wanted to (let's me use the manager after I hit ok)
> volume control and brightness control and mouse sensitivity scales do not work
> only emerged xorg-server
> as well as lxdm and mesa
I'm concerned that this is a permissions issue. I have no fucking clue how to fix permissions issues (I know chmod and shit, I mean hunting down files and changing them to correct permissions at this scale is too great).
Anyone sure why? I'm emerging xorg-X11 now.
>>52215093
arch is not shit and systemd is great.
the rest is true
>>52217203
Update: most likely not a permissions issue. The root account has no such features either.
>>52213070
Two questions:
1 Are you going to post this meme several times a day for the whole of 2016?
2. Do you really samefag allthose replies yourself?
It's not working.
>>52213173
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/GNU/Linux
Crunchbang here, is there a way to keep my system alive?
>>52215361
do you know how to config your users?
>>52218032
>Using Debian OldStable
Jesus fuck, update to something more modern.
>>52218174
>>52218200
>/flt/
>baiting
kek
Sup /flt/
I think I have the hang of Mint, It kinda holds your hand too much in my opinion. So what is my next distro? Debian? Fedora? Arch?
>>52218233
Well, people need to start somewhere.
>>52218254
If you're looking for a distro that just werks while not hiding your hand, do Fedora.
If you're looking for a distro that you really need to work for, do Arch.
If you're autistic and have two weeks to burn, install Gentoo.
>>52218254
I used Mint last year for classes. For this last semester, I've used Ubuntu GNOME.
There's not anything new, other than this amazing DE.
>>52218254
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>>52218254
Debian testing, installed from netinst iso (in so-called expert mode). You start out with a minimal package base, and you can either tell the installer to install a DE or you can install the DE yourself. You won't end up with all the garbage that Mint and Ubuntu give you.
>>52217203
Never used LXDE, but:
You could try using "nitrogen" to set your desktop background. It's got a nice GUI for image selection, it supports multiple monitors, and you can add "nitrogen --restore" to your ~/.xinitrc so that the wallpapers that were used last time are loaded every time you start a graphical session. You can also use "feh", but I don't think it gives you the graphical selection tool (not really a big deal if you don't change it a lot, just use your file manager to pick and type the file name into the command line) and I'm not sure about multiple monitors with feh.
>volume control and brightness control and mouse sensitivity scales do not work
Do they work as root, or not?
>file manager bitches about not being able to open root when nobody wanted to
What is the specific error, and have you tried googling it? Please do not ever ask people to resolve errors for you without including the error. You might get a more detailed error by launching the file manager from a terminal emulator and watching the terminal output.
>>52218254
The usual life circle is:
Ubuntu/Mint (-> Debian -> Manjaro) -> Arch -> Gentoo/Funtoo -> Open/Free BSD -> Plan 9 -> Linux from Scratch -> Nostalgia OS's (Workbench, DOS, Windows 95) -> Arch.
You come always back to Arch and nobody uses Fedora, except that one guy who will reply now.
>>52218364
I use Fedora
your sequence is bullshit
>>52218364
>no OpenSuse
>>52218364
People hate on Antergos on here but I think it's a good distro to start with if you're coming directly from Mintbuntu. You get to see how the Arch world is laid out, how it's different from the Debian world, what the AUR is all about and how to use it, etc. Most people will only use it for a couple days before going to Arch but I think it makes the learning curve easier as opposed to saying "fly baby bird fly".
Alright guys I need some help. I'm trying to compile qBittorrent on linux mint since the one in the package manager is a fucking old as shit version. I've done this before but for some reason I can't do it this time, I keep running into an error while trying to update libtorrent-rasterbar, I've got version 1.0.6 that I compiled when I first installed qbittorrent but now I can't compile version 1.0.7. I just get the error in pic related. What do?
Do I just give up and install transmission? I like having an RSS downloader though.
>>52213371>>52213343
don't listen to this fag, it just takes a learning curve to get use to it. Once you get it up and running its simple and stable. The main difference its more geared towards finding and compiling your own software as opposed to installing everything from managers. Its basically a philosophy thing, do you want to resolve a hand full of dependencies for certain applications and have exactly what you want or do you want it done for you and risk alot of bloat and things you don't need/ modified binaries.
>>52218458
>Antergos
Everything that makes stuff easy is not 1337 for some people. Antergos is fine.
>>52217203
FEH
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>>52218364
If a person has half a brain, they'll avoid Gentoo like the plague. Funtoo is more likely.
Nostalgia OSes are literally memes. They're used, at best, on throwaway machines and in VMs.
Plan 9 is an old meme. I don't think anyone here would ever have interest in using it.
IMHO, distro-hopping is nonsense after a while. Just install a VM program and play with any/every system, or just use their Live CD/USBs. No reason to change systems just because you're "bored".
>>52218364
a lot of other people come back to other distros. the only reappearing pattern seems to be that people that used everything always end up using one of the base distros, meaning debian, arch, gentoo, slackware and fedora
>>52218356
Mouse sensitivity works as root. Volume and brightness I can't find anything to use for as either user; I'll install pulseaudio and volumeicon in a second.
I'll also install nitrogen and check out my xinitrc.
File manager thing was just kind of an annoyance and it stopped on its own.
Will post update once emerges finish.
>>52218510
Agreed.
>>52218508
Agreed.
>>52218508
Gentoo/Funtoo, what's the difference - in human language?
>>52218597
the fun :^)
>>52218545
>I'll install pulseaudio
You probably don't need pulseaudio.
>Volume and brightness I can't find anything to use for as either user
What does this mean?
Does the fact that you're controlling screen brightness through the operating system imply that you're using a laptop? Does it not have some function keys for that or something? Maybe all you need is acpid.
anyone here ever used Bodhi Linux? i'm thinking about trying it out. Is there anything that would keep you from using it as your daily driver?
>>52218597
funtoo adds some trolling like rm -rf while youre compiling
>>52218508
>If a person has half a brain, they'll avoid Gentoo like the plague.
If a person has more than 2 brain cells to rub together they'll realize that portage is fucking amazing. Have fun with your useless packages faggot, USE flags are the best thing to happen to Linux since SMP.
Okay team, I'm about to begin a math-and-programming-related degree, however there's no heavy programming, just simple code to solve math problems. What's the best distro for university life?
>>52218597
Funtoo Linux is a Gentoo-based distribution developed by Daniel Robbins (the founder and former project leader of Gentoo Linux) and a core team of developers, built around a basic vision of improving the core technologies in Gentoo Linux. Funtoo Linux features native UTF-8 support enabled by default, a git-based, distributed Portage tree and Funtoo overlay, an enhanced Portage with more compact mini-manifest tree, automated imports of new Gentoo changes every 12 hours, GPT/GUID boot support and streamlined boot configuration, enhanced network configuration, up-to-date stable and current Funtoo stages - all built using Funtoo's Metro build tool.
>>52218670
calculate
>>52218622
I mean there's no brightness or volume sliders.
Yeah, I'm on a laptop.
>>52218690
Based on gentoo :^)
>>52218674
Wait, wait, - portage, git-based? Damn, that sounds amazing. I havent seen any point in using a distro just for the challenge of having everything self-compiled, but this sounds interesting.
Also, so, basically is Funtoo the real Gentoo? Why the split?
>>52218698
Function keys don't work; sorry for not mentioning that.
>>52218732
https://web.archive.org/web/20080113042159/http://blog.funtoo.org/2008/01/here-my-offer.html
https://web.archive.org/web/20080115061441/http://blog.funtoo.org/2008/01/and-it-gets-worse.html
>>52218732
Robbins got sick of the stagnant bureaucratic mess that gentoo became so he left and did his own thing. Funtoo is pushing new boundaries all the time and gentoo ports his new features so yeah, in some ways it's nu-gentoo.
>>52218364
lmao I stopped on ubuntu because I don't like wasting time dicking around with the os
still miss 8.04 though
>>52218670
Fedora.
>>52218724
>Based on gentoo :^)
so is chromeOS. calculate is used a lot in this sector, it's a good choice.
>>52218864
Since you're probably the same guy on this thread calling fedora, what are the advantages over the distros.
>>52218927
>inb4 being an alpha tester for Red Hat
>>52218914
I'll definitely have a look, it does sound interesting from it's description. Being 100% compatible with gentoo does sound nice.
Why the anti-Fedora sentiment here?
My brother taught me to play games on it when I was nine and it took me half an hour to install when I was a 14-year-old Linux newfag with no knowledge of anything.
Used it for five years before installing Gentoo. It's a solid OS, secure, simple package manager, good support, good efficiency, can use any desktop environment.
Frankly, I find apt-get a confusing and needlessly complicated manager. I never liked the *buntus or Debian.
How often does Fedora updates/RMPFusion update? It's annoying to be behind Debian testing.
>>52218847
>>52218834
Thank you.
>>52218927
> simpler package manager
> support from an actual company
> popular enough that most questions are answered
> freedoms
> not made for the tech-illiterate like the *buntus
It's a good OS. Simple as that.
>>52219018
Deviating from the *buntus is tempting, I've mucked around with them but never stuck on them.
>>52218766
>Function keys don't work
The only laptop I've got is an old Asus EeePC. There's a driver in the kernel that has to be enabled for the keyboard brightness controls to work. I think it also enables the keyboard sound controls, and some of the other keyboard functions, but not all of them. Some of them I had to implement myself using acpid and shell scripts, which is really not as hard as it sounds. This is the only time I've had to do backlight control with Linux as opposed to a display's firmware. I know that there are also some generic backlight control drivers, but I don't really know what they do or how they work.
Basically, you may need to see if the kernel has some make or model specific drivers for your laptop. Besides backlight control, these would probably also do things like status LED control and stuff like that.
>>52218698
See if you can control your volume using the "alsamixer" command line utility.
>>52218965
It's because le hat joke bro.
You wouln't run an OS named "Milhouse" too, as example, no matter how good it may be.
Im running Debian Sid and keep on getting this errorE: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)whenever im trying to install a package
>>52218965
No package manger I have ever used is complex.
Perhaps learn how to man your shit...
>>52213078
Try Xubuntu
It's Kubuntu with a different DE (windows and taskbars, so to speak) that uses 1GB less RAM.
How is KDE5? I've always shied away from trying it because I've heard its a resource hungry monster with too much glitz thrown in for someone who just wants something simple that looks nice.
>>52219105
use sudo
Alright, can someone actually give me a for-retards guide to ricing with i3 and shit or whateverthefuck the weebs in the desktop threads have?
I have used linux on servers but my desktop experience is limited to gnome/kde/xfce/lxde, I have given i3 and ricing a try and I feel like I'm too much of a dumb shitstain for it.
>>52219131
It's huge, hungry but can look nice. Then again, also dwm can look nice. It's up to you.
>>52219168
>Wanting to rice desktops
...however I also request this
>>52219131
>I've heard its a resource hungry monster with too much glitz thrown in for someone who just wants something simple that looks nice.
You've heard right. If you want something simple that looks nice, use XFCE 4.12 or Openbox with a dock or panel and maybe Compton, a la Crunchbang.
>>52219168
http://ref.ochazuke.org/
Made by /g/, robbed by #rice, pushed to reddit, therefore people hate that guide, but it's the most complete guide out there for linux.
>>52219233
Oh, I've seen this before, how outdated is it?
>>52219070
> kernel driver
Son of a bitch. That's what I was afraid of.
Well, I guess it's back into that pile of shit I dive.
Here's hoping I don't need to fix any more goddamn panics.
>>52219186
>dwm
>http://dwm.suckless.org/
This? Looks neat, but my knowledge of C is rudimentary and I'd rather not be configuring this by mucking about with source. Is this anon using dwm? >>52216663
>>52219196
Thanks
>>52219233
Thanks, but it doesn't really help me. I know what a WM is, that all these WMs exist, etc. What I would really like is a guide that takes a retard like me from clean install to a concrete example of a riced desktop.
>>52219282
Just a hint, before you install i3 and get disappointed: i3 does NOT have the nice gaps between windows by default, you will need the gaps fork or use awesome if you're good with lua.
>>52219289
Basically all you need to to is to learn to use your Xressources, get a nice paper, a bar and a small WM, then try to match all colors to one theme, done. There's nothing more. Also most people on /desktop thread/ just use premade themes and change the colors.
>>52219279
I took this screensshot a minute ago but forgot to post it. You shouldn't be able to do any damage by turning these on and off. Some of them are hidden unless you enable other things, though. For example, it looks like the EeePC driver requires "rfkill" because one of the keyboard controls toggles wifi power. (I took this on my desktop)
You may want to google the model of your laptop and "gentoo" to see if there's some archived wiki page or something that explains how to get stuff working. There's one for my EeePC.
How to rice from clean install to a great desktop:
1. >see something that looks nice
or
1. >have an idea
2. >feed google with
3. >use results
????
PROFIT
>>52219438
or install enlightment :^)
apt-get install mpv doesn't work on debian, I think it became unstable after an apt-get upgrade. It's Jessie.
Halp
HEY GUYS always when I try to type screenshot I actually type screenshit, what is going on!?
