Merry Christmas!
https://a.uguu.se/fcycie.opus
>Requesting purchase advice:
http://pastebin.com/hjHkKDyM
>/g/ wiki headphone FAQ:
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php?title=Headphones
>Previous thread:
>>52020272
>Budget
$50 max
>Location
USA
>Source
Laptop, Tablet
>Preferred type of headphone
Full Sized
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Don't care so long as they don't hurt to wear for extended periods of time
>Preferred tonal balance
???
>Preferred music
Classical, Shoegaze, Electronic shit like BoC, pretentious hipster bullshit like AnCo, post rock shit like WEG
my phone has some static because a shit, will a cheap amp like the fiio e6 help?
does /g/ like clear versions of their IEMs/headphones?
>>52033967
Nah looks unprofessional
>>52033967
I think they look great
>>52033967
something that starts conversations if you let them lie around outside of your pocket
>>52033973
How so?
>>52033986
Do you really have such a hard time initiating a conversation that you have to whip out your pair of $1000 IEMs?
>>52034026
>projecting this hard
No well adjusted person will reveal the real price of expensive items because it scares off normies
>>52034026
you can also get clear ones for not $1000
>>52034091
>normies
>getting scared off by expensive products
Seems like you're really the one projecting here, since it's pretty evident you've never talked to any.
>>52034170
>why would you waste so much on earphones anon? my $10 from walmart ones sound just fine! you can't hear the difference anyway
>>52034170
Yes, I have literally never spoken to any person ever.
Moron.
>>52034170
>>52034026
your a cancerous nigger and should seek help
God why are anime girls so CUTE? That girl is CUTE, CUTE!
>>52034225
>youll never get a present from her
>Budget
$175 max, but that's only if I absolutely have to go that high, would prefer more around 100-150
>Location
USA
>Source
Old-ass iPhone, might also buy myself a laptop in the next couple months, but I wouldn't know what kind it'd be.
>Preferred type of headphone
Full Sized
>Open or closed
Open is preferred, but either would be okay.
>Comfort level
Anything Is fine as long as I won't be in pain after using hem for a while
>Preferred tonal balance
I don't know what this is
>Preferred music
Hip hop, jazz (Charles Mingus, Miles Davis, Coltrane, etc), getting into Radiohead and Swans a bit lately. Stuff like Sufjan Stevens, modest mouse, Can. D'Angelo. Really I'm looking for something that would fit for any genre, as I'm recently starting to dig past the same-old-same-old.
I'd like to not have to buy an amp but I don't know if that's reasonable being that I'll be listening on an iPhone.
I saw those lucid labs Altoid tin amps going for about 40 dollars, but I'm a bit wary. Knowing absolutely nothing about amps, are these any good for the price or should I look somewhere else? My gimmicky sense is tingling.
>>52034266
if youre going to be on the go with your phone, you would want closed for isolation, no?
>Budget
120€ max
>Location
Germany
>Source
Going to use it on my PC as well but it's mostly for my smartphone (HTC One) while travelling
>Preferred type of headphone
Full-sized
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Should be somewhat comfortable of course but I don't put too much of a focus here
>Preferred tonal balance
Neutral
>Past headphones
Was using the Sennheiser HD449 for a while and thought about getting the HD471G
>>52034441
mdr-7506
>>52034495
what's the difference with the v6 or other similar ones?
>>52034323
I wouldn't necessarily be on the go, I might be sitting at home listening on my phone. Closed would be better if it means more versatility, but I don't want to sacrifice sound quality for convenience too much
>Have to wait till the 18th for my new headset
>Have to use basic iphone earbuds until then
Is this what hell looks/sounds like?
>>52034567
v6 and 7506 are literally the same. why? short story: capitalism
>>52034619
akg k612
What does it means with glued earpads on X2? I thought it was intentionally designed like that.
>>52033944
Check my dubs. Also, this poster here. I decided you guys were taking too long and took matters into my own hands.
Are the Creative Aurvana Live headphones suitable for my specifications?
>>52034721
It is if you're impatient my nigga
>>52034766
Would I need an amp with the akgs? Listening on iphone
>>52034816
sorry dude. superlux hd681 evo is definitely your best bet
>>52033894
>Budget
$250 with some wiggle room higher or lower
>Location
USA
>Source
M-Audio AV-40s being supplied from an old M-Audio 24/96 card
>Preferred type of headphone
Full Sized
>Open or closed
I'd lean towards closed but am open to either.
>Comfort level
I'd wear em all day so preferably something that won't kill my ears after a few hours.
>Preferred tonal balance
Neutral
>Preferred music
experimental folk/pop/electronic, drone metal, hip-hop
>Past headphones
Grados sr80i's, nice sound but bad build quality, ended up with rattling in one of the cans. ATH-M50s, bought them for $15 from an Amazon misprice that actually shipped, enjoyed them quite a bit, but not keen on buying them again. I've been using mediocre Superlux HD681s for the last year and a half so pretty much anything at this point will be better.
>>52034766
wasn't there a third?
>tfw fell for the akg m50x meme
>as much bass as beats by dr nigger
Why did I listen to /g/
>>52034876
a lot of people say you need an amp with the akg's. i havent seen their measurements, but even if they dont get super loud, im sure itll be fine. if im a wrong piece of shit, grab a fiio e10k
>>52034884
akg k702
>>52034906
theres a bunch in that line
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_MDR-V6
>>52034921
you meant ath-m50x
and /g/ would never fucking tell you to get m50x, what is wrong with you? that is reddit. those things are niggerbass shit
>>52034933
>e10k
err sorry, from iphone, an e6 is what youd want
>>52034879
Okay, cool. But why those when compared to CAL?
>>52034933
any meaningful difference between the k702s and the k701s? besides the $30 price difference
>>52034974
Cable is detachable. It is worth considering 612 over 701 is you aren't looking for the cable feature.
>>52034968
they are more neutral
>>52034974
their sound signatures are almost identical, with the k702 looking a bit more neutral, and also have a detachable cable which a lot of people love
>>52035018
>>52035029
I'm very much about that detachable cable. Thanks.
>>52034933
Is loudness the only thing an amp affects or will there be a difference in sound quality?
>>52035029
>looking a bit more neutral
That deviation is just normal production variance, so no.
>>52035183
yeah i was going to put its so small its hardly worth mentioning. but do they use the same driver? that would explain it
>>52033967
Clearly the best option.
What headphones should I get?
http://strawpoll.me/6356219
>>52035608
>http://strawpoll.me/6356219
those are all garbage so i voted for the least garbage one
alright whos the asshole proxy voting the m50x? its fucking christmas man
>>52035667
>http://strawpoll.me/6356219
m50 is least shit one
>>52035667
>here's a list of garbage and the M50x which is bad if you don't like too much bass
>wow why is someone proxy voting for the only option
>>52035690
>>52035691
lol wut, the msr7s are great. by far better than the rest of that shit
>>52035714
lmao
no bass, no mids and more expensive
>>52035739
>lmao how does i read fr graphs????????????
>Budget
Probably max is $200. Maybe $300.
>Location
USA
>Source
Dragonfly my audiophile grandpa got me for Christmas
>Preferred type of headphone
Full-sized
>Open or closed
Either or. I do like isolation though, so maybe closed?
>Comfort level
I like comfy.
>Preferred tonal balance
No idea, first-time purchaser.
>Preferred music
I play lots of vidya, and listen to tons of Jazzy jRPG music + watch anime like Monogatari. I don't know how much this helps.
>Past headphones
Some shitty Sony headphones.
>>52035636
what's less garbage than all of them?
>>52035802
HD600
>>52035814
OK, thats really, not what I want
>>52035778
And pathetic driver matching
>>52035847
>1 sample
Driver matching graphs is literally useless for any headphone
![UW4cT5[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/TXXBxdH.png "UW4cT5[1].png")
>>52035847
fine by IF
>>52035876
Lmao, fuck off shill. We both know you want him to buy the more expensive option.
>>52035876
sennshills are so easy to spot
>>52035835
>>52035802
SHP9500
>>52035878
Innerfidelity is mismatched. Not the headphone, the head itself.
>>52035903
>closed headphones
>>52035899
lol thats not me, thats the sennshill. still mad about hd600 driver matching measured at IF
youre retarded too though so its no wonder you thought it was me
you enjoying your terrible niggercans?
>>52035899
>>52035900
kek I just got here
>>52035926
why does that mean youre not a sennshill?
>>52035920
>>52035926
The shills don't even know who they're shilling for now. This is the extent of the shilling, DOUBLE AGENT SHILLS. LMAO
Fuck meeeee
>>52035965
>used headphones
Have some self respect
>>52035959
Okay I am "sennshill"
Whatever dude you're sperging out
Go outside and chill
>>52036048
its fucking cold outside man i live in michigan, im not going out there
are you at least enjoying your hd600s?
I know I'm a vidya-shitter and you faggots are having an argument, but could I get some advice? >>52035785
>>52036048
Sure.
>>52036092
if you really can have open, you should. if you choose open, akg k702. if you really want closed, get the viso hp50
>>52033967
No they look like hearing aids.
>>52036092
Dt770 80 ohms
>>52036157
>not 250 ohms
>>52034323
>Budget
200 euro, can go up or down a bit,
>Location
Norway
>Source
PC
>Preferred type of headphone
Full size headphones, wireless. I know I'm paying a lot for that feature but it would really help me out in my dorm room.
>Open or closed
preferably closed
>Comfort level
fairly flexible
>Preferred tonal balance
no preference
>Preferred music
Honestly a little bit of everything.
>Past headphones
Shitty gaming headset Siberian v7 or something.
I'm very grateful for any decent wireless headphone suggestion.
>>52035608
>people voted for M50X over MSR7
>>52036191
Fuck off shill
>>52036178
Bose SoundLink Around-Ear Wireless Headphones II
>>52036212
What am I shilling for?
>>52036191
yeah it must be because school just got out on the east coast, i dont know where these people came from. i really hope that guy didnt follow that polls advice
>>52036048
>Have some self respect
I've bought multiple used headphones off Amazon warehouse deals and they were all in essentially mint condition. Plus I saved a lot of money versus buying them new. Amazon inspects them and cleans them anyways. And if you're super OCD, then just replace the earpads.
It doesn't make we sense to spend an extra $50 or so dollars when you can just get an open box pair on Amazon. And if they're fucked up which they never are, you can return them no questions asked.
>>52036226
Thanks man.
>>52036252
Everything! You probably have dozens of shill accounts in the same company. Acting as if audio technica has made anything of value. I hate you
>>52036358
>>52036269
>school just got out on the east coast
>Christmas Eve
Not how that works.
>>52036322
Open box is good discount, especially if the MSRP is high.
Head-Fi works fine enough for headphone sale and resale.
>Budget
less than 50$
>Location
USA
>Source
Smartphone (moto g)
>Preferred type of headphone
Earbuds (bluetooth)
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Don't care as long as it stays on my ear while moving. Planing to use while im working
>Preferred tonal balance
Dont know what is this but i like a bit more bass and loud as hell sound
>Preferred music
rock and metal!
Right now im just using a 5$ philips earbuds they are great but id like a bit more sound quality and no wires
>>52036428
Samson SR950?
>>52035913
>>closed headphones
okay where did you say this?
>>52036442
i dont know if i can remember /where/ it was, but it was right after i pulled out of your mom when i finished
Would tube amp work with X2? Im not asking to buy, just intressted...
>>52036816
>tube amp
meme
>>52036816
tube amps are shit technology of the past. they have no meaning anymore. theres no point in even answering that question. they are deprecated
>>52036191
>MSR7
I stopped visiting these threads about half a year ago after I bought these headphones.
I had the M50x but it sounded way too muddy. If you want a neutral clean closed back headphone then the MSR7s were the best available when I bought them.
>>52036816
>tube amp
I bought fiio e6 and tested with my sony mdr 1r headphones (with my laptop as source playing flac and using audio out). I literally felt/heard no difference.
Is fiio e6 simply a snake oil or is it that my headphones are too shit to take advantage of it (assuming it actually works and is not a snake oil)
>>52036857
>>52036869
>>52036921
Poorfags
>>52036958
Your headphones are shit.
Your amp is shit.
Your laptop's headphone out is probably not that bad.
>>52036958
your headphones are definitely shit but the e6 is just an amp. it just makes it louder. were you expecting more than that or are you saying it wasnt even doing that?
>>52036100
I see the same headphones for 250 burger dollars, What country are you in?
>>52036975
tube amps dont even cost more than regular ones, wtf
>>52036977
Fiio cost me like £20 so obviously its crap but still I had expected atleast some minor improvement or difference.
>>52037046
>Literally says CND$ in the picture.
Can't into FOREX I see.
>>52037083
It's literally just to boost the volume from your phone if your headphones are hard to drive.
Your headphones are memetier fashion accessories for people who were too contrarian/too poor to buy Beats. As such, they're already about as easy to drive as your mother is to fuck.
>>52036869
Okey thanx!
>>52037039
I dont know, I thought its like when you increase volume too much and you start hearing skreeching sound, there is not enough power to drive bass or something
>>52037077
My tubes alone cost more than your headphone
sup mkg are filco keyboards any gud?
>>52036269
no, I didn't, not sure what to do
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00NBEWB4U?ie=UTF8&camp=213733&creative=393185&creativeASIN=B00NBEWB4U&linkCode=shr&tag=fbook08-20&linkId=ZHV2M6ZUQ4LB5R4L&=electronics&qid=1440273911&sr=1-1&keywords=amazon+basics+headphones
Should I buy these? I want an upgrade to some rather crappy in-ear headphones (EarPods) I have, and I don't really want to spend a lot of money. I don't really care about sound quality much, either. As long as it sounds good/acceptable, I'm ok.
>>52037165
wrong thread
>>52037165
yeah they are, majestouch 2 are top tier if you don't want stupid addons
>>52037165
Back in 2010 yeah
>>52037127
np
>>52037149
that can be caused by more than one thing. in your case, the headphones are doing it
>>52037153
there are solid state amps that are expensive too
doesnt stop them from being as much bullshit as the money you wasted, lmao
>>52037166
msr7 you fucking retard. does the thread not make it obvious what happened in that poll?
>>52037190
fucking definitely dude, they have 4.4 stars. even the he560s only have like 4.0 so they must sound better
>>52037119
I paid £160 at the time, they are good for traveling and stuff, closed and noise cancelling, good looking too, ona plane/train they are god tier.
>>52037375
>mdr 1r
Don't get me wrong, I like to sound signature of some Sony headphones, I can't bear to get rid of these even though the pleather has gone to bits and one of the cups is held together with sellotape.
All the same, Sony headphones are mid-fi at best.
>Budget
60 dollars or so.
>Location
US
>Source
Typically a computer (Desktop and laptop), maybe a smartphone later down the road.
>Preferred Type of Headphones
Full-sized, wired.
>Open or Closed
Closed
>Comfort level
A bit of comfy is appreciated, but I prioritize sound quality.
>Preferred music
A bit of everything, but most of the stuff I listen to includes electronic, rock, and rap.
What does /hpg/ think of Shure SE215?
>>52037708
hd-681 evo
>>52037740
shit/meme, just like everything else
>>52037740
Fun IEM, quite dark though. Trebles are bit too rolled off unless your source has decent amplification. Amazing fit and sound isolation. If you can't afford the SE535, they're the next best thing.
>>52037330
jej
>>52034968
The evos are garbage. Get the hd800s and don't be a poor fag.
>>52037895
they changed the name to HD800F idiot. the f stands for foam
Did I do good?
>>52033967
I think they're cool
As long as they don't turn yellow from your fingers touching them
>>52033973
Headphones in general look unprofessional
is there a way to make headphones quieter via hardware short of buying very power-hungry ones? basically I'm trying to get some headphones for my dad but if I give him any old pair he'll destroy his hearing even faster than he is currently by listening too loud on the computer.
>>52034798
It's just a manufacturing blunder, they shouldn't be glued, but they don't sell replacements. Eitherway I have glued ones and desu I don't care, I'll buy planars when these wear out.
>>52038374
You did OKAY if you like bass.
>>52034199
>yes I spent $700 on this phone, snapchat is so fun!
>>52037808
Why?
>>52035029
>>52034968
>evo more neutral than CAL
fucking what. the CAL is mildly warm/bassy. the evo is basshead levels of bass.
>>52037861
Thx man.. i just want some IEMs with differente fit because regular iems cant fit in my big ear...
>>52038578
did they change it that much from the non evo? show measurements
>>52038610
look up the measurements yourself. the evo is completely different. it's probably the most colored superlux. in terms of bass levels 681 < 668b < 681evo. the 681 and 668b are also significantly brighter.
>>52038798
are the blue bird wireless earbuds any good?
is this good for 90 bucks?
http://www.frys.com/product/8506409
Are Xiaomi Pistons a meme? I bought a pair a year ago (Mk 2?) based off the recommendations of this general and one ear stopped working just yesterday. The sound quality was decent, but I'm mad they broke.
I do occasionally accidentally run over the wire with my chair, sit on them, yank them out by the wire instead of the grip, etc but still, I expected longer than a year.
Is there a substantial difference between the Piston 3 vs. Piston 2? Some people on reddit and elsewhere are saying 2 is better? 3 came out just this year, right? They sure look different. They took six weeks to come last time so I don't want to buy garbage, even if it is very cheap
>>52038563
everything is shit/meme in /hpg/
>>52039219
there are tons of fakes.
Are these good?
http://www.trust.com/en/product/16450-gxt-10-gaming-headset
are the Superlux HD-681 EVOs comfy? i would get takstar hi 2050s but they would be coming from chinkland and i want my headphones fast
>>52039554
aw yeah dude the best
>>52039219
>>52039532
where did you get them from?
piston 3.0 is better sound & comfort
people just complain there's a lot of plastic and they look less stylish. It's less of a fashion piece now
>>52034199
>beats are the best
>>52039562
If you really do not want to wait and are okay with closed, look at the Kingston HyperX Cloud. It's basically a Pro 80 with nicer finish, detachable mic, braided cable, a bunch of extras and some gaymurr branding.
>>52039554
>Gamer headset
>deep bass
>brand is trust
yeah mate, top of the line
>>52039632
i have a budget of 50 dollars for my headphones, sorry
>>52039655
Hmm. I was considering the 681 Evo myself, but they are really really bass-heavy unless you do some modding. Managed to score a deal on the QPad QH-85 (Hi2050 with detachable mic) in the end, picked them up for €40 and I don't regret it at all.
>>52039619
I bought the Xiaomi Piston II off Amazon for $15 a year ago. $25 is now my hard limit, shipping isn't a problem since I usually buy a lot of items at once
I bought a pair of Sony MDR-XB50AP for $40 at a physical store today and I am extremely fucking disappointed, which is why I'm posting in this thread. I couldn't return them (I tried) because the store's return policy is retarded. I bought on impulse from a physical store because I need to listen to music over the holidays and can't wait for something to ship in from China. Learned my lesson, I guess - always do research, always ask people who know, inquire about the return policy.
I can't believe that $15 Chinese headphones sound better than $40 Japanese headphones. Like, I am actually upset. At least I didn't spend hundreds of dollars. What the fuck happened to Sony? In any case, I don't care about fashion or plastic, just wondering what the best earbuds I can get for $25 are.
>>52039562
No the HD-681 evo's are uncomfortable. Get the Takstar 2050.
>>52039764
All non-chink IEMs under 100$ are shit with very few exceptions like RHA
![iitmIl[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/wTjqtqY.jpg "iitmIl[1].png")
>>52039655
A lot of people doing this. Oh well.
>Budget
~$100
>Location
US
>Source
Standard PC Jack
>Preferred type of headphone
Full Sized
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Whatever
>Preferred tonal balance
Don't Care
>Preferred music
Electronic, Rock
>Additional Details
It needs to also have a mic attached to it
>>52039929
HyperX Cloud I and be done with it
>that feel when K7xx master race
>>52039655
be prepared to spend 150 or more at the least for a good headphone
>>52039833
are you sure it'd be worth it? i can order the evo's tomorrow and get them on the 27th. if i order the 2050s, im waiting till jan 21st
Looks good. Just bought one. Thanks.
Sound Blaster E1 isn't enough to sufficiently power my meme50x. What can I get that'll do the trick for ~$100?
>>52040037
Plastic a shit.
>>52040272
I thought the meme50x didn't need an amp?
>>52040281
Sounds kinda weak without it, at least to me anyway
Any differences between the RE-400 "Waterline" version and its android/iPhone models with the mic?
>>52040309
A mic and basic controls
>Budget
~150€
>Location
Germany
>Source
Desktop Comupter, Decent sound chip
>Preferred type of headphone
Full Sized
>Open or closed
Whichever you recommend
>Comfort level
I wouldn't want to sacrifice audio quality for comfort but still kind of important
>Preferred tonal balance
Slightly more lows and highs
>Preferred music
Rock, Classic Rock
I would either want to use a DAC/amp combo or a tube amp i need recommendations on this too. About 100-150€
>>52040442
>I would either want to use a DAC/amp combo or a tube amp
unnecessary.
as for what you want, i dont know of a "slightly" v shaped headphone in that price range, and either way, id say just get akg k612 and eq the parts you want up
>>52040604
oh the colouration doesnt need to be my preference exactly, thats just the way i set my equalizer
>>52040641
well that doesnt really change anything. youd still want to start with a nice neutral headphone and just eq it the way you want, especially if youre going to do that anyway
>>52040677
can you tell me anything about the akg k612?
>>52040142
It's worth the wait. I've owned both and can tell you that I still have the 2050 and returned the HD681 evo after one day.
If you don't want to wait just look for better headphones in that price range.
Then again considering you wanted closed headphones neither of those fit as they're both open and will leak sound.
http://www.amazon.com/LyxPro-HAS-10-Professional-Headphones-Neodymium/dp/B00R0DCSSM
http://www.amazon.com/TEAC-CT-H2000-Pro-Grade-DJ-Headphones/dp/B00I4PI0K0/ref=sr_1_1?s=aht&ie=UTF8&qid=1451007291&sr=1-1&keywords=teac+headphone
look at those two. not sure how comfortable either one is but the teac's will most likely be less comfortable.
Has anyone listen to Phonak PFE 112?
>>52040683
Can be considered an alternative to the K701. Less sensitive, but flatter in sound.
Still has the pesky 2.5kHz peaking.
>>52040814
I thought that was discontinued. Guess not.
If I remember right, grey filter was like ER-4P/HF5, and the black filter was a bit darker/bassier than that.
Just got AKG K550s and want a DAC to go with them, any suggestions?
>>52040879
Whats the difference between ER-4P, ER-4PT, ER-4B anyway. I heard it was 4B that have the thinnest sound and 4P the thickest one. Not that I understand what they mean with thin and thick though.
>>52040920
a resistor
>>52040968
How does that translate into the sound signature. I know that the difference between 535 and 535LE is a resistor too, and many people preferred 535LE than 535.
>>52040996
it changes the dampening factor
http://nwavguy.blogspot.com/2011/02/headphone-amp-impedance.html
>>52040920
Their frequency response. I can't comment on the B but PT has a rolled off treble whereas S is exceptionally neutral and accurate.
Thin = more treble relative to bass and mids
Thick would be the opposite. Shitty and vague descriptions imo.
The S535LE has a different damper which is user-replaceable. The LE has more neutral treble than the standard SE535 which is very rolled off in the high mids/highs.
>>52041027
The important thing is that it changes the frequency response.
>Rock, Classic Rock
what the fuck is the difference?
they all look and sound like fags
>>52041107
fuck off to /mu/ with these low tier shitposts
>>52040920
Some cabling/color differences, although I think those are the same by now.
The driver (Knowles ED-29689) used and the acoustic damper used (Green 1500 ohm) is identical through the ER-4 line.
ER-4B is the original. It has a 220 nF capacitor in series/daisy chain with the driver, and has a 100 Ohm resistor bridged across the cap.
4S skips the capacitor and leaves the 100 Ohm resistor in series.
ER-4P/4PT reduces the value of the resistor to 25 Ohms. 4PT differs from the 4P by the accessories int the box.
Now if you know how to calculate voltage division in AC, you already know how they are sounding different. I'll explain anyway.
The point of all those electrical parts is to use passive attenuation to equalize the ER-4. The stock ED driver is extremely dark, but the voltage is wasted in the lower frequencies on the passive parts, and not the driver. This shifts the balance to the highs.
ER-4B has the brightest sound, but is closest to neutral, DF neutral anyway. If you swap out the stock acoustic damper for a higher value, this will control the treble peaks better, making it not sound so bright.
4S has a reduced treble balance and sensitivity compared to 4B, but is generally found more palatable. I find this to be a bit on the treble shy side at certain frequency bands, not so much at others. This is nitpicking, I think.
4P is darker and more sensitive than 4S or 4B, less of the low frequency signaling is being wasted, but less wasted in general.
535 LTD is different from stock 535 by an acoustic damper and not electrical means. Adding electrical impedance in series to the 535 will reduce the treble even further.
>>52041027
>dampening factor
This is dumb phrase. Resistance of ED-29689 is under 4 ohms.
>>52041027
So, a resistor difference will make a difference in impedance, right?
>>52041079
Yeah, I know. But my local community always use that vague descriptions to describe the sound. And I didn't know yet how it'll translate to FR. What'll be "dry sounding" translate into frequency response?
Anyway, can you help me read this phonak measurement. Looks fairly neutral to me, but with a little elevated on mid.
>>52041198
Cheers, anon.
I need some good studio headphones pls help
>Budget
$200-300
>Location
US
>Source
PC
>Preferred type of headphone
Full Sized
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Will be wearing it everyday so comfort is important but not first priority
>Preferred tonal balance
Neutral
>>52041526
ATH-MSR7
>>52041233
>a resistor difference will make a difference in impedance
Impedance (Z) is the opposition to current using AC voltage, something with frequencies. Music, for example.
Resistance is part of Z, and it is the same at all frequencies. Reactance is the other part of impedance, and as you may be able to guess it varies with the frequency.
A simplified description of how this works is that the voltage in a circuit is distributed in direct proportion to the impedance of each part. High Z gets more voltage, low Z gets less.
The ER-4 driver has a low impedance in the low frequencies and higher impedance in the mid and high frequencies. Adding resistance before the IEM means that the low frequencies get less voltage, high frequencies still get most of the signal.
The Phonak uses a very similar driver, and behaves in a similar fashion with impedance.
>can you help me read this phonak measurement. Looks fairly neutral to me, but with a little elevated on mid.
That mid bump around 1-2kHz is just the little weirdness that Tyll does at innerfidelity. If you reduce the level around 1kHz by a few dB, that should be about right.
PLEASE tell me you guys have a set of headphones that emulate these glorious pieces of technology. I had some a few years ago and I loved them more than anything I've ever had.
>Ultra comfortable
>Amazing sound quality
>Look gorgeous
Anybody got a place I could find another pair, or something very close?
>>52042509
http://beststore-online.com/search?search=ath-em7x
good luck
>>52041233
"Dry" is supposed to mean a lack of reverb in the context of audio, but audiophiles have this tendency to mangle words into having more vague and non-descriptive connotations. I've seen people use it to refer to the mid-treble balance.
>>52042509
Hopefully EM7x has similarities?
>>52042543
Oh my god I love you. Here's a gif for your help.
i'm not going to be happy until i have sex with a petite little blonde girl.
>>52042509
Yuin G2A
>>52042570
dont gotta tell me that
Don't buy the RHA MA750's. They hurt like hell and all the included tips are complete shit, and the foam tips that are included are barely malleable, they just change back to their original shape before you even put them in your ears. Avoid these like the plauge. These things make my fucking ears go numb for gods sake. 119 dollars down the drain. I've had a chest cold for a fucking week and because of this I'm even more fed up.
>>52042652
what will you be going back to?
>>52042670
In the past year and a half I've gone through
>Sennheiser CX-300 II (Sounded alright and fit perfectly, but the right side crapped out after 5 months)
>Panasonic RPHJE120K (2 Pairs, first one also died on the right side and the second still works, but I hate the way they sound and feel)
>Audio-Technica-COR150BK (Sounded alright but they hurt almost as much as the RHA's and were a nightmare to adjust)
Please kill me.
>>52042732
maybe you should give up on iems?
i dont understand. just looking at graphs, the k702 seems more neutral than the hd600. am i not reading these things right? i mean the k702 rollercoasters a bit but i dont think its as terrible as most phones that tend to rollercoaster
>>52033967
For aesthetics? Yes.
But the cables oxidize after a while.
>>52035965
Dodged a bullet there.
>>52037740
Complete and utter shit.
>>52037948
Should have named it HD800HR, for Helmholtz resonator.
>>52040879
I'm pretty sure Phonak stopped making consumer IEMs.
>>52040920
That's actually a really accurate way of describing them.
>>52041198
4P isn't in production anymore, it's a choice of ER-4PT, ER-4S and ER-4B.
You are completely right about the ER-4S' treble, I find it a bit shy around 8k and a bit hot at 12k, this is also nitpicking but I haven't heard a more favorable treble response in headphones or IEMs.
>>52041526
Beyerdynamic DT250, don't bother with MSR7, it's bright and not flat, comfort wasn't that good either despite looking like it would have been freakishly comfortable.
>>52042732
That's just too bad, those Panasonics are among the most comfortable IEMs ever created.
>>52042919
>dt250
pretty crazy how close their signatures are. hard to believe one is going to be much brighter than the other
>>52042919
>Dodged a bullet there.
What should I buy then?
>>52042919
>dodged a bullet
Those headphones are amazing for that price. It seems like that was a scam though considering how many of the same headphone from the same store was listed. Then again everyone might have just jumped on it quick.
>>52042988
There needs to be more measurements of this headphone. I tend to hear it like this as opposed to other plotted results. The DT250 sounds more neutral. Tyll and a few others said the MSR7 was bright but I thought he was memeing, he was actually correct in this case.
The headband also hurts the top of my skull. Earpads are god tier though. I found these to be more uncomfortable than the ATH-M50s going by memory because those never bothered me besides clamp.
>>52042996
Whatever you think you'd like.
>>52043031
wait i'm looking at the new rather than the used side, nevermind. Seems like it's still up. Seems like a great deal and a reputable company. Go for it if you manage to find a way for them to ship to you.
i told my parents that i wanted SE846 for christmas...have to wait 8 hours for disappointment or excitement. what are you hoping for christmas /hpg/?
>>52043068
>SE846
Have fun with your sweater, Timmy.
>>52043068
Why?
For $5 you can get better sound and comfort.
>>52042799
>maybe you should give up on iems?
I think I've spent near Indofag levels on IEMs and DAPs, if not all at once.
>>52042919
>Phonak stopped
I thought they stopped many years ago too, but apparently some are still for sale.
>ER-4S nitpicking
Actually, the peaks and dips drove me insane. Audiophile neurosis at its worst.
Whatever, more resistive dampers should solve some problems of ER-4S or 4B. I've ordered some, and will eventually have a proper listen to modified 4B this time. Not doing 4S again...again.
>>52043111
DAPs? Do tell a sample of what you've owned. I'm generally a smartphone guy.
I'm generally autistic when it comes to sound as I use an ER-4PT in public but you take it to a different level.
i have some dt880s, would like get some headphones with a different sound and bit more bass, merry christmas
>>52043111
I thought singapores ones usually spend much on IEMs and DAPs, am I wrong?
How many DAPs you're owned again?
>>52043154
Fidelio X2.
>>52043157
Not him but I wish I had a local Jaben that was within driving range. But then again I buy stuff from various online retailers and return them all the time. I don't risk it with amazon as I don't want to get banned.
>>52043163
That doesn't even have bass, that has rolled as fuck bass actually.
It's all bloated mid-bass
>>52043154
DT770 desu, 80 or 250 ohm
>>52043181
All open dynamic headphones have rolled off sub-bass, but that doesn't mean that it has no bass. Also, he wants a different sound, DT770 and DT880 sound very similar past 1kHz and only differ from the lower-midrange to sub-bass.
>>52042919
>Helmholtz resonator.
i love this meme
>>52043181
>listening to a furfag
>ever
The DT770 is even more bloated than the X2. Go with the X2 considering the deal it's currently on right now.
>>52043211
I love the meme where you call things you don't understand a meme.
>>52043228
I love this Sennshills who eat up everything Sennheiser marketing shits out and don't understand shit themselves meme
>>52043177
Well, while I'm consider myself lucky for have a local Jaben within driving range. All the headphones listed are usually mid-fi and hi-end ones. And usually retailed with early high MSRP for european and US brand headphone.
>>52043197
>All open dynamic headphones have rolled off sub-bass
Not as bad as the X2. Open dynamics with subbass rolloff also tend not to have big midbass humps right before a steep subbass rolloff.
>>52043244
>he thinks the HD 800 S is a simple foam modded HD 800
Full. Fucking. Retard.
I returned my HD 800 due to it being a shitty headphone, I'm no Senn shill.
I'll wait for measurements, disassembly information and a few months of feedback before deciding to purchase one.
Also, this argument was done already where it was proven that you have no idea what you're talking about.
>>52043292
>he thinks the HD 800 S is a simple foam modded HD 800
Why are you putting words in my mouth? It has also already been established that the 6KHz peak remains.
You still clearly have no fucking clue and continue to regurgitate Sennheiser marketing as if it's your own knowledge.
>>52043311
>It has also already been established that the 6KHz peak remains.
Prove it.
>>52043339
You'd have to be pretty fucking deaf not to hear it.
>>52043344
I haven't heard it.
I want to see measurements.
>>52036178
Sennheiser RS170 or 175.
I have the 180 and they are amazing through my Chord Mojo but they're open back.
Good thing about the senn's is when you're out of range it simply cuts out then comes back exactly the same volume with not harsh click or anything, good for your ears.
>>52043353
Of course you do. You kidiots who base their opinions entirely from one or two frequency response measurements of one or two models that are hardly definitive of response among all manufactured models are literally no better than the average placebophile on head-fi. Only difference being is you pretend like you understand anything because you can read a basic FR graph and treat it like law.
>>52043344
>plays the 'hear it' card
jej you're a /r/headphones trailer trash audiophile
>>52043372
Isn't amazing because the Chord Mojo, not the headphone though?
>>52043380
>he can't hear a blatantly obvious 6KHz peak which is basically a signature of the HD800.
You keep on keeping on with your lack of job and inability to afford any decent headphones. Keep basing those opinions entirely off of FR graphs and acting like you know anything.
>>52043393
Chord products are fucking awful.
>>52043399
Of course it'll be when you compare it to god-tier O2.
>>52038374
I have these. Very good for the money. Build quality is one of the best I've seen, better than the se846 imo. Give them plenty of time to burn in though. Only thing I didn't like was straight plug and non-removable cable.
>>52043375
>>52043399
Did a post trigger you to write this bullshit?
See:
>>52043311
He has yet to prove that the 6kHz peak remains on the HD800S. Everyone knows that the vanilla has a 6kHz peak, it's been extensively measured.
>>52043418
kek
>>52038419
The headphones have a few noticeable differences from this post on amazon.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/customer-reviews/RC91A4ZS3P4PX/ref=cm_cr_pr_viewpnt?ie=UTF8&ASIN=B00O2Y2MZG#RC91A4ZS3P4PX
>slighty different colors
>white font rather than the yellowish gold font on the real ones
>different wording
>greyish earpads rather than pure black
Anyone know if this revision/european model is actually worse? It could possibly be a fake for all I know.
>>52043423
Burden of proof is on you to show your meme "HELMHOLTZ RESONATOR XDDDD" actually does anything relevant and not within tolerances of driver responses.
Just got these for $65 at slickdeals. Are they good for the price?
>>52043399
>plays the poorfag card
my sides are fucking killing me
I bet you think you're the king of the world with those expensive headphones you got
you must get mad pussy
>>52043442
>maybe if I use big words like tolerances I'll sound like I know what I'm talking about XD
>>52040903
Chord Mojo, seriously an endgame dac you can use on-the-go.
>>52043455
At that price, yeah.
>>52043458
>sent from my HD558s
>>52043468
Glad to see you literally have nothing of value to come back with.
>mfw this retard gets triggered so hard when someone mentions the hd800s' helmholtz resonator
every time
>>52043505
>when you get BTFO to the point where you can't even reply to his posts
>>52043393
Bit of both. But the amp is in the headphone, just needs a good source. Good battery life, nice charging station and awesome comfort too. Mojo has given new life to every headphone/earphone I have.
Don't feed the beyershill, he lives for the (you)s, no surprise he's even here on xmas shitposting as usual.
>>52043524
When do you expect to upgrade to a good DAC?
>guys I used "Helmholtz Resonator" again
>>52043157
>>52043145
>sample DAPs
3x different iPod classic, Samsung P3, Sansa Clip+, Cowon J3 2x, Walkman model I don't remember, I think I might have had a Zen player a really long time ago.
The IEMs I've gone through, dozens more. Some that I have owned.
SE535, Westone 4R, EX1000/600/7550, ER-4PT, HF3, RE272, TF10, Super Fi, RE400, Sony MH1, IM02, and many more.
They're all gone, I never did any of this with the intention of building a collection.
Now it's just a smartphone with EQ, and it sounds better too.
>Budget
Let's say $200
>Location
USA
>Source
Desktop computer
>Preferred type of headphone
Full Sized
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Just need to be able to wear them for long extended periods of time, as they would be my main source for noise output for my computer.
>Preferred tonal balance
Balanced or neutral as I will be using them for just about everything.
>>52043565
DT250
>>52043505
The results shows on the IE800 in which two were used to reduce half-wavelength resonance at 24mm/20mm. Rin Choi has analyzed the IE800. Impressive from a technological standpoint but it was too colored for my tastes.
