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I have a miyota 8xxxx series movement and the power reserve is about 24 hours.
I read that it's supposed to get more than 40 according to the documentation from miyota.
Is there something wrong with my watch or do miyota movements typically get far fewer reserve power hours than advertised?
The watch is no more than a few years old.
Also I should mention that it ran out of juice a day after I spent many hours on the couch doing nothing but watching Netflix.
But I had full wound it 24 hours prior.
Also accuracy seems to be normal. It keeps time properly.
WAYWT senpai?
first for vostok guide
HA! Take that, Bulova!
>>51861180
sweeping hand wall clocks are pretty common.
>>51861196
(and not that expensive)
Still! Take that, Bulova!
>tfw waiting my Soki to come
I hope I'll get it before Christmas, since I'm too late to buy bagelmeme(the price jumped up when /g/entoomen started buying them)
>>51861238
>Soki
Late to the train buddy, hop on to the Tisell memeorail - it's the wave of the future for shilling.
>>51861238
What Soki?
Repostan
>>51860717
>>51861406
Looks like it's the MDV-106A
>>51861389
Pic related
>>51861406
Pretty much every quartz movement is accurate enough, unless you have some really specific usecase in mind. Check out Casio, perhaps?
http://www.casio.com/products/Watches/Classic/
>>51861406
A quick search suggests that Casios tend to be quieter. Get one with a thicker case (like a diver) and that should muffle more of the sound.
Either that, or something like a Bulova Precisionist.
got this recently, it's nice
>>51861465
>pepsi
>no GMT hand
derped around the mall yesterday picking up gifts, stopped by a few jewlers to state at watches.
>invitca pepsi but also no GMT
fuckin why
>>51861435
>40$ translates to 60€ in Spain
I'm starting to think that the only watch you can buy here without getting jewed is the F91-W.
>>51861465
Is that Soki actually good or simply looks good? Ordering from alliexpress?
>>51861473
If I can't find a decent price online I'll search for that Casio on local stores since all of them have a wide range of Casio watches.
>>51861561
When you take a watch off at night, put it on a soft surface, that will help with the sound. I like putting my mechanicals on a hard surface at night, because you can hear the tinkling of the movement like a bunch of little ringing bells.
>>51861561
Go to the "must" thread of ForoCoches, shur. There's plenty of stuff in there for you to choose from...
>>51861561
Can't actually say anything for them before I get my hands on it. Other anons have reported them to be pretty okay for their price(~20 bucks) I bought mine off from ebay actually, since I could get it little bit cheaper there.
>>51861530
I know ;_; Haven't seen blue-black Soki anywhere, which is kinda sad. I'm actually thinking if I should get one of those Amphibia bezels that accept seiko inserts and try to find blue-black bezel insert.
>>51861266
>$15 vs $180
it's a different train
>>51861530
Pepsi on a diver bezel is fine if it's 15/20 mins and not half and half.
>>51861730
but it was half and half
i was like ohh cute little gmt, then once i walked over noticed it had no GMT hand what so ever, with a fucking half and half.
i couldn't comprehend what i was looking at
>>51861487
congrats my friend, wear it in good health!
>>51861561
>Is that Soki actually good or simply looks good?
Neither. It's a novelty toy.
I'm going to get one myself just to fuck around with the movement.
They're badly made using bad materials and have no QC, a shit movement, and it will probably break quite fast. Also the bracelet is horrible but that's expected on antyhing below $200 anyway.
>>51861750
Sure, I was just saying. You don't have to have a GMT hand to have a bicolour bezel.
Also, a GMT mechanical for $15 would be absolutely nuts. Tbh a mechanical for $15 is already pretty crazy as it stands.
>>51861753
As expected. I don't want more chink shit laying around anyway.
I kindla like the Seiko 5 series but I don't want a mechanical since I'm not going to wear it a work.
I guess I'll just dig for a fairly priced Casio.
>>51861753
>ironic shitposting is still shitposting
>adding a genuine comment below doesn't make the part above less of a shitpost
>>51861561
Look on /f29/ (for anything really)
Soki is the cheapest mechanical sub homage you can get. My friend who gave another friend a Soki and owns a Bagel said that it's marginally worse yet cost the half, pre-inflation. You can still get some rare bagels on taobao for about $8 more than the original prices if you REALLY want that meme. I'd rather spend a bit more and get a Seiko 5
Friend who got the Soki said "it's a decent watch for the money, but definitely replace the bracelet"
>>51861886
Aren't you the one funposting now? Care to share what exactly is wrong with Eco-Drives and other such watches then?
>>51861927
?
>congrats my friend, wear it in good health!
you didn't actually unironically say this, right?
>>51861927
>Implying people who own a smartwatch know shit about technology
My parents just got me this for my birthday, very pleasantly surprised
>>51862341
Neat. What's the model?
What should I do with this turd?
I mean the watch, not the camera.
>>51860876
I always wait the whole minute to see if something cool happens when the seconds have done a 360 but nothing cool ever happens
Fuck your clocks
>>51862631
I bet Ahmad's clock wouldn't just do nothing when it's done ticking
>>51862631
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJwPOBoy3V8
>>51862530
wear it you dolt
>>51862797
Why does he sound like he is about to cry ?
>>51862797
>mundane
Was that on purpose?
>>51862797
>that second hand
No, just no.
>>51861643
I lack an invite to foro coches
Do you think that in 20 years, Nomos watches will be as expensive as Omega or even Rolexes are in the present days ?
>>51863088
No because that is ugly compared to Rolex
Are Vostoks the Holgas of watches?
>>51863017
yep, mondaine means mundane in french.
>>51862966
because $650 for quartz
>>51863048
it's the same as the clocks in swiss railways that have been like this for 70 years.
>>51863088
>will my shit be less shitty if I store it for 20 years?
>>51863088
They're already 5x as expensive.
>>51863115
No, BOCKTOKs are ugly but actually at least functional and decent. Something like a bagelsport would be more like a holga, cheap trash for hipsters.
>>51861160
>vostok
>not pobeda
Pleb/10.
>>51863088
No way. Rolex watches have always been expensive, Nomos are not.
And Rolex watches don't get more expensive with age apart from the really old or very limited ones. Nomos doesn't have any of those.
Also, Nomos has no prestige associated to it.
Sup /fa/. Rec me some /g/ approved watches for poor people with bitch wrists, preferably <$100 and ~38mm diameter. I want to be cool like you guys please respond.
pic unrelated
>>51863219
SNK809
>>51863088
i'm trying to figure out the same thing with orbis
but >ETA movement
if they produced their own movement then possibly
>>51862530
Wear it in good health.
>>51862341
looks very "Russian" i dig it
>>51863203
>Rolex watches have always been expensive
$195 MSRP for a sub in 1964, that's $1500 in 2015 dollars. An 114060 today has an MSRP of $7500, 500% more than pure inflation.
>>51863191
>ugly
m8
also, I'm waiting on a slava that I bought some days ago, but I don't think it'll arrive this year
>>51863290
The difference is actually a lot more because wages have increased slower than inflation has risen over that time period.
>>51863129
i'd pay $300 for it
shame
>>51863290
But is the new Sub five times better than the old one?
>>51863290
And yet that was still an expensive watch at the time.
>>51863290
Wrath of Khan was released in 1983 on VHS and Betamax at $39.95, which was about $40 under contemporary tape pricing.
That's $192 in 2015 dollars.
This is completely irrelevant, but I read it the other night and it stuck with me. In 1983, if you wanted to own a copy of a typical movie at home, it would cost $80.
>>51863350
>tfw only payed $20 for all 5 on laser disk
>>51861020
Orgo final in 2 days. C here I come
Vintage '76 certina manual watch.
Kinda like it!
This watch is nice.
>>51862867
>>51863268
It stops working in like 15 min unless I keep shaking like a retard.
>>51863394
So at what point between 1975 and today everyone lose the knowledge of how to make a quartz movement that consistently lines up perfectly with the indices? Is it really so god damn hard that only really high end quartz movements like the 9F can accomplish it?
>>51863300
DUDE WEED
>>51863481
It's not hard, it just takes time and money to design a control system like that.
Companies like to cheap out whenever they can.
>>51863203
>Also, Nomos has no prestige associated to it.
In their defense, they were founded in 1990, so they're a very young company, they have no "history" yet, for now they're just a cool brand with neat designs
>>51863264
When Lucien Piccard went broke (again), some Chinese investors bought the name and moved the dial making tools to China. If you get one with a Japanese quartz or automatic movement it'll be alright. Don't pay MSRP, it's only worth $30-50
>>51863393
I fucking hate chemistry.
Good thing I will never have to touch it again.
>>51863518
You would think that when they made this special movement they would've done that since the whole point of this completely useless complication is to watch the second hand stop exactly at 12 oclock.
>>51863350
That's why you "time shifted" your rental copy onto a blank tape. And don't cheap out on your second VCR, make sure it's 4 heads stereo.
>>51863474
>mechanical
>>51863551
They look kinda shit, have no feature, and cost a fortune. I could get a much better rolex for the same price as the cheapest nomos.
>>51863551
Of course, I wasn't criticizing them for it. They're definitely one of my favourite brands.
>>51863082
You can still read it though... google "relojes must have forocoches".
>>51863474
Rip it apart and try and put it back together.
>>51863585
same
>>51863585
>>51863649
>tfw i never had a chem or physics or any kind of advanced science class
>tfw now i want to get into biochem or space science but too dumb to wrap my head around core concepts now
fucking homeschool sucked
>>51863694
Public school wasn't any better.
>advisors told me I don't need to go past algebra 2 or take a language to get into college for engineering
>I specifically asked about engineering
>nah bro your good.
Fuck them
>>51863637
This, and keeping the strap for other watches is the only good use I can think about.
>>51863694
Bio major here. Fuck science, major in finance or engineering or just something that's garenteed to get you a job after you graduate. I'm assfucked if I don't get into pharmacy school.
Also posting poorfag collection
>>51863624
>They look kinda shit
That's subjective m8
>have no feature
On most of their models yeah, but then there's the zurich worldtimer ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SK58RMRfmds ) which is pretty neat
>I could get a much better rolex for the same price as the cheapest nomos.
I doubt you could find a 900€ rolex honestly
So what are you wearing and what boring shit are you studying, /g/?
>>51863997
>Fuck science, major in finance or engineering or just something that's garenteed to get you a job after you graduate.
I got a degree in Biology and I fully agree with this.
Getting into that career is by far the worst mistake I made in my life.
People don't get surprised when I say what I studied after they see my F91-W.
>>51863997
shit
hipster shit
shit, bracelet looks great though
don't like the dial, nice anyway
official chink shit or simple chink shit?
>>51863809
>technically dual enrolled (paying some umbrella school $150 a year to play the same role as a high-school advisory basically)
>took 12 classes the first 2 years of fucking highschool
>on track to graduate a year early
>oh i'm sorry you forgot to take a second language course
PROBABLY BECUASE YOU TOLD ME TO TAKE LIKE 6 RELIGIOUS CLASSES
FUCKERRSRSSSS
I COULD HAVE USED THAT TIME TO LEARN PHYSICS AND BECOME AN ASTRONAUT
>>51864086
>I could have followed my dreams, but instead I'll be programming computers for the rest of my life.
pourquoi?!
>>51864055
I'm so sorry man. Were you premed/health and gave up?
What are you working as now? Lab tech?
Bio is the memiest of degrees next to chem and psych >>51864068
Why the hate for my calculator watch? Its legitimately useful sometimes and has the best stop watch controls of any digital. I've actually never seen a hipster wear one either, and I go to school in fucking NYC.
>>51864134
No hate, it's just that the hipsters love it, hence hipster shit.
>>51864151
I've only ever seen one other person wear one of those things and he was a fedora wearing sperg, so I question your assertion. I think hipsters just wear fashion watches.
>>51864134
>Were you premed/health and gave up
Nope, I simply didn't think much about it when choosing my career.
Working as biological pest control technician, a job I could teach to anyone in like 2 weeks.
I'm not gonna blog more because I'm getting really angry.
On topic, this was my first watch. Got it like 18 years ago as a gift. It's still working great and is pretty god for running/jogging.
Which was your first watch guys? Do you keep it?
>>51864151
I see at least 10 hipsters/trendy faggots every day in this shithole and not once have I seen a calculator watch. I'm pretty annoyed at the shit that this really nice price of utility gets just because of Casio's shitty marketing.
They wear the fuck out of movados though.
>>51860876
Faggot
>>51864228
How long ago did you graduate? Try getting a professional degree in physical therapy or occupational therapy. If you're lucky and live in or near one of the smaller cities chances are you'll get a really nice paying job right away.
>>51863997
I'm a math student, and I'm assfucked if I don't get into quantitative finance
>>51864306
Nah, you could become an actuary and make fuckloads of cash.
Why didn't you just straight major in finance with a math minor?
>>51864306
you can do tons of shit with maths dude
>>51864128
Not that guy but I'm not that mad about being fucked over by my advisors. I might only become some expendable IT guy but I'm not defined by my job, and if iI can live comfortably I'm not gonna bitch about not making enough.
I know that sounds like an excuse to come with failure but meh, I didn't have big dreams or aspirations, deep down I'm a lazy fuck. I don't have the passion or drive to make myself great, I had plenty of opportunities to pick up my deficient classes but I didn't.
I've got rich family so I'm not losing out on life experience like travel and shit, so I can't really complain even though I'm impoverished myself.
Well, I say I can't complain, but sometimes I still do
I ordered the SARX015 for my friend, and while it is kinda pricey ($620 canadafag socialismbux) I really am astounded by the overall level of quality. There's like 3 or 4 alternating surface finishes on the case. The dial is crisp and high-quality, not a single applied index out of place, great finishing. This watch easily competes with Swiss stuff in the $1,000+ price bracket (and I speak from first-hand experience). Really nice overall.
>>51864345
>Why didn't you just straight major in finance with a math minor?
When I chose my field, I didn't know I wanted to get into mathematical finance, I just knew I wanted to do math
>>51864366
Sure, but quantitative analyst seems like the perfect job for me
>shittons of stats and probability
>a lot of programming involved
>you travel frequently
as >>51864345 mentioned I could try becoming an actuary if I don't manage to get into finance, but the idea of working with insurance companies is kind of a turn off to me
>>51864306
>inb4 300K starting
>>51864465
The box it comes with is kinda crap, nicer than the SARB box but in shape only. Still the same shitty cardboard, but it DOES come with a pillow. I guess Seiko decided to just pour all their resources into the watch, which I'm fine with.
>>51864128
At least you won't become an accountant.
>>51864525
My SNK809 came with a box like that, albeit smaller, and a nice leather pillow.
>>51864465
Shit, that looks good.
>>51864444
I'm glad someone can look on the brightside.
>>51864465
>This watch easily competes with Swiss stuff in the $1,000+ price bracket
compared to what exatly?
also my only gripe is the off shaped 12/3/6/9
triggers my autisim crazy but a beautiful watch besides that
love the facets on the case
>>51864494
>shittons of stats and probability
yeah i prefer math myself :^)
>>51864525
Shot of the movement. Some minimal decoration going on here. You can definitely see the 7S26 origins.
>>51864028
5 seconds on ebay and I found a $900 (probably about 800€) rolex.
>>51864573
Minimal is right. I wonder why they bothered with the display caseback honestly.
I have no qualms with an undecorated movement on a (relatively) inexpensive watch, but then why show it off?
Posted in the b other thread but this one is more active.
Really love this Casio GW-M5610.
It's been through hell and back with me. Salt water, swamp water. Sweat, blood. I got in a major cycling accident a year ago, landed right on the watch, and it came out with only a tiny scratch on the face. Some of the stainless steel on the back has got rust spots from the perpetual soaking of sweat and the band has a constant layer of sunscreen runoff. But damn do I love this thing.
It's solar so I've never had to replace the battery. It receives the correct time from a radio signal so it's never inaccurate and I've never had to set it.
>>51864573
I fucking love undecorated movements, are there others beside the 6r15 and 7s26 ?
>>51864557
Leather or vinyl? The box is OK for something like the SNK809, feels chinsy for something like this.
>>51864564
Compared to the likes of Mido and Oris. I kinda like the off-shaped markers desu senpai. There are also so many fucking facets on the case, the photos don't show it but they're great at capturing light. I can see why my friend preferred this to the SARB033.
>>51864573
Speaking of SARBs, here's a comparison to my SARB017. I think both watches fill their own unique niche. I like them both, might get a SARX015 for myself. The only possible downside I can think of is the lack of a hi-beat (28,800) movement. If I wanted to be blasphemous, I could try jamming the 0703 from my Elnix into the case.
>>51864465
Holy shit you Canadians are getting fucked with your play money, I paid like $450. Also god damn I wish my friends would get me gifts that nice.
But yeah it's a really good looking watch, I'm amazed with what Seiko makes in that price range and every watch with a 6R in it is pretty damn nice. I've though about getting a GS or something but honestly these sub-$1000 Seikos are so nice I don't see a need for anything more. Maybe I'll spring for one of those urushi or enamel dial models next instead.
>strapping an ugly, obsolete lump of metal to your wrist
>not looking at your phone for the time
>2015
>>51864602
Why not, they're sort of neat. It's not fancy but there are Geneva stripes on the rotor and the bridges are brushed and beveled a bit, it's not completely rough and bare like a 7S26.
>>51864683
Seiya was also kind enough to send me this Seiko Japcatalogue, which might be interesting for posterity's sake since it is laid out in much the same way the old Penisquartz catalogues were. Of course, I'm sure their intention was to get me to order more watches. Also, I just noticed that the SARX015 doesn't have Diashock, but the SARB017 does. Interesting as I figured such a feature would carry into a more expensive watch.
>>51864630
Pretty much every single other Seiko movement in existence. I've also seen some pretty barebones ETA 2824s. Panerai 318. Oh and the Vostok 2414, of course.
>>51864602
The displayback is for you to show your friends how fucking cool your fap-powered watch is.
>>51864849
>Panerai 318
>>51864849
They have the same exact movement, the SARX has a diashock balance too (basically the same as ETA Incabloc) and so does every other 6R, but only the owlpenis prints it on the dial. Are you sure you're not confusing it with diashield (clear DLC coating on the case and bracelet to prevent scratches) which neither of those watches has?
>>51864707
Yeah, the currency situation is pretty bad. And it's getting worse, the loonie fell another 2 cents against the Greenback since I bought this last week. What makes me really mad is while the dollar has lost about 25% of its value since September 2013, I've only seen my wage go up 2.5% a year. We're all getting fucked with the spindly end of a rake.
As for the gift, yeah it is nice, but my friend gave me a good pair of racing skis (pic related) for my birthday last year, I figured it was time to return the favour. Sure he paid $800 for them, but he also makes more money.
>>51864755
If the 7S26 is a base model Corolla, the 6R15 is like a Camry XLE. Upgrades and finishing where it counts.
>>51864932
Not Diashield, Diashock. I remember some watchmaker telling methat the other 6R15 movements use a simpler shock absorbing system, but I figured that just held true in the SARB line. I could be wrong. Looking at the jewel over the balance wheel, it definitely does not have the typical Diashock shape.
>>51864683
Leather, off white/grey
Mine and I like it
>>51865310
full scale pip-boy when?
would pay dosh for that
>AUTOMATIC pip-boy for maximum triggering of /wt/
>>51865138
So does the Alpinist have the 3-sided spring then? If so that is pretty interesting, that's the more high-end diashock type that's normally in GS type movements. Maybe they use it since the owlpenis is supposed to be a tougher outdoorsy watch, it's also 200m rated instead of 100m like all the other SAR* models.
>>51865138
>I remember some watchmaker telling methat the other 6R15 movements use a simpler shock absorbing system
That's just retarded of him. They use a different system from the old 80's movements, which are 2 leaf instead of the three leaf system of the oldies.
It works just as good, but people are retarded and think it doesn't work as the older ones because of the retarded mentality "moar is betturrrr". Also, the older ones were simple brass, while the new two leafs are niquel plated brass, more resistant.
>>51865337
literally already happened
>>51865367
as in not a marketing gimmick with little use or functionality
>>51865366
But the GS movements continue using 3-leaf springs which I would think suggests that's still the superior type. I guess we'll have to throw a bunch of watches on the floor to see which type of spring works better.
>>51864465
>>51864573
>>51864683
>>51864849
>Mid-range automatic Seikos
>Not one, but two Thinkpads
Typical /wt/
>>51865467
It's easy to tell why.
GS movements are derivatives of the old movements.
The ones with the two leaf shock absorbers are all from the 7Sxx family and derivates. Whether they are more high end (Anantas, Prospexes, SARXs, Brightz, etc) or the lowly Seiko 5's.
>>51865467
I wouldn't be surprised if there's literally no difference, they just have to figure out shapes that are different to Incabloc since they can't just copy it.
>>51865537
Alright, I can believe that.
>>51865553
Incabloc was invented in the 1930s or something, it's long out of patent. Anyone can copy the design but other companies can't call it by the same trademarked name. It's the same with automatic winding movements, Rolex invented automatic winding with a free 360 degree rotation so they decided to name it Perpetual. Now everybody is free to make automatic watches but only Rolex can call them Perpetual.
>>51865366
Well I stand corrected, thankfully the guy who told me that isn't my regular watchmaker. What is troubling, however, is he works for a Seiko authorized repair centre.
>>51865467
>Hand-winding GS movement
I didn't know this was a thing
>Used in reissue of the 44GS which also happened to be the same size as the original
Holy shit, hiw did I only first find out about this only now?
I kinda wish Seiko would do re-issues of some of their movements so we could cannibalize parts. If this watch was issued in the old 44A lo-beat, I would have really been ecstatic.
>>51865625
The only probable difference (except the niquel plating in the newish movements) is that the three leaf design might be better at keeping the jewel better oiled. More stuff in the way means more contact points and more surface tension for the oil.
I see we're talking shock protection.
>>51865762
>>51865625
>tfw one day everyone will be making spring drive copies but only Seiko will have the true Spring Drive
What do you think other manufacturers will call that movement type? Electromagnetic? Supposedly Swatch had researched and prototyped basically the same type of movement in the 90s under the name High Precision Mechanics. In fact apparently the idea of that type of movement goes way back to the 70s but Swatch and Seiko both took forever to get working examples and only Seiko has bothered to mass produce them.
http://wiki.epfl.ch/polymac/documents/hpm-en.pdf
>>51865782
>>51865762
Nice rolex hairspring, but what is that >>51865782 ?
>>51865809
And what is that?
Never heard of that movement, although the design looks very old, although high end.
>>51863141
>Nomos
>shitty
Lurk more, you horological peasant.
>>51865788
>High precision mechanics (HPM) – a self-winding mechanical movement having the precision of an electronic quartz watch - has been developed. This performance is achieved by replacing the spring/balance wheel resonator and its associated escapement mechanism by a quartz tuning fork resonator and an electromechanical escapement (a microgenerator and an integrated control circuit).
>It has to be noted that the escapement generator creates the electric energy needed for the resonator and escapement functions. For this reason, there is no need for electrochemical energy storage of any kind (rechargeable battery, supercapacitor, etc.) and the energy to operate the movement comes from the main spring as in any other mechanical timepiece.
>The self-winding mechanism and the mechanical energy storage in the main spring give the user a reliability and comfort which is significantly better than both, the traditional mechanical movement (because the most critical elements – resonator and escapement – have been replaced by more reliable and more precise ones) and the traditional electronic quartz movement (because its most unreliable element – the electrochemical power source – has been replaced by a system of constant availability and unlimited lifetime).
>The quartz movements cannot achieve this performance with a kinetic generating system recharging the accumulator or supercapacitor [12, 13]. On the other hand these movements offer the significantly larger autonomy (if not worn after a long wearing period) due to the relatively high-energy storage capacity of a rechargeable battery. It should, however, be considered, that no system can create energy. A much larger energy storage capacity needs to be ″filled up″ in order to be able to deliver its capacity and when empty often needs a much more uncomfortable handling than a mechanical watch in order to run again normally.
continued
>>51863203
>>51863253
>Nomos
>no prestige
>ETA movements
Hello newfriends :^)
>>51865893
>The large operating temperature domain together with its reliability makes this movement an ideal choice for extreme conditions such as expeditions, etc.
Too bad Swatch will never keep developing this because they've dug themselves in a hole by convincing everyone that mechanical watches are the only true watches and anything with a quartz crystal in it is dirty. And without any competition Seiko will probably never develop it much past being an expensive curiosity for their high end watches. Also it's funny how the paper makes a dig at kinetic quartz watches being shit, I'm glad Seiko seems to have finally stopped making those shit movements.
>>51863405
Neat watch, nice to see some more vintage mechanicals on these threads. Know anything about the movement?
>>51865788
>In fact apparently the idea of that type of movement goes way back to the 70s
I would think it would be a very old idea. Spring drive is essentially leveraging quartz technology to regulate a traditional watch. It has all the makings and working of watches that have been made for centuries, and uses the quartz crystal to regulate it. But instead of our first quartz watches being a traditional watch with a new regulating mechanism, they threw away much of what traditional watchmaking was and replaced it with a different way of doing things. Only later does Seiko seek to truly integrate the new technology with the craftsmanship of a traditional watch movement.
>>51865809
>35 jewel handwinding movement
Something about this makes me feel warm and fuzzy inside
>>51865822
An older Rolex hairspring
>>51865840
http://ninanet.net/watches/others15/Mediums/mseiko5722.html
>>51864707
>I've though about getting a GS or something but honestly these sub-$1000 Seikos are so nice I don't see a need for anything more. Maybe I'll spring for one of those urushi or enamel dial models next instead.
Yeah, I have just about the same exact notion about the SARX019
>>51866134
I think that one might be my favorite but I wish it had at least a bit of an upgrade to the basic 6R15 since it's like $700. There's a really cool beefed up 6R movement with a 28,800 beatrate in this watch and the date subdial is neat but I think the date plus the power reserve makes it a bit too busy.
>>51864630
How about this?
>>51866134
>That date window
Ruins the whole watch to be perfectly honest, family.
>>51866324
>Hideki-sama, it is impossiburu to cut a neat hore through enamer diar for datu windu
>Suzuki-baka, we have arr these goddamn 6R15s with datu dispray and you had better cut datu windu unress you want to be made to jump in front of shinkansen
>y-yes Hideki-sama
>>51865950
Now this is movement decorating, the geneva stripes look neat and all but they aren't particularly artistic.
>>51866134
>>51866225
Those seconds hands are so sexy.
Why did they decide to use those Credor like hands in the SARX?
Also, what the hell is with Seiko and all the islamic styling on the Credors?
>>51866459
http://www.ablogtowatch.com/seiko-shinju-hattori-special-model-limited-edition-watch-japan/
Holy shit it's a real watch. That fish is supposed to be this guy, too. That's a pretty goddamn cheeky watch.
>>51864238
Personally I've known like 2 "hipsters" who wear calculator watches.
The regular digital terrorist casios w/ metal bands (silvery or gold color) are more common, I see those all the time on the wrists of people who go to the same gigs I do (and they're pretty "hipster" or underground if I may say so)
>>51866466
>Those seconds hands are so sexy.
>Why did they decide to use those Credor like hands in the SARX?
I don't know but I like it a lot. It's not just that, the enamel finish on the dials is pretty similar to the porcelain dial on the Eichi watches. It's definitely a bit of a Credor homage.
>Also, what the hell is with Seiko and all the islamic styling on the Credors?
I've always wondered the same thing, it's really weird but I kind of like it. The Credor logo looks like Arabic to me.
>>51866564
>the enamel finish on the dials is pretty similar to the porcelain dial
No, just no.
Have you ever seen enamel and porcelain side by side? They're nothing alike. They might be similar in photos, but in your hands? Nope.
>>51866564
I can make up three possible reasons for the styling:
1. Completely unintentional, they're Japanese people making watches for Japanese people, they might simply not realize what some of us westerners think when we see that styling.
2. Actually intentional to sell to rich-ass arabs but I doubt Seiko is popular around there so I doubt this one
3. Intentional, abrahamic religions are "exotic" and "mystical" to people in Japan, they often use Christian etc symbols to create that sort of aesthetic effect in media etc
>>51866523
Also I just realized that Seiko's current CEO is the great-grandson of the company's founder, how Japanese of them.
>TZ: I really liked last year’s Kintaro Hattori Astron. In a very subtle way, the design details communicate so much about the Seiko brand as a whole. In particular, the case back is engraved, “One Step Ahead of the Rest”. Can you explain the meaning of this ideal?
>SH: Kintaro always said, ‘With no hurry or rest, always stay one step ahead of the rest. Not two or three steps. Taking too many steps ahead would distance you from the public. One step ahead is important.’
Fuck anime, nothing makes me weeb out more than Japan's weird corporate culture.
>>51866679
That saying is pretty wise though.
>>51866599
They're sort of similar as far as being clean glossy smooth surfaces, right? Or at least those enamel watches are as close as you can get for less than tens of thousands of dollars.
>>51866652
There's no way some Arab sheikh would buy a boring subtle Eichi. More like the biggest most expensive Astron there is, but only after it's been entirely covered in diamonds.
>>51866765
They're clean, smooth surfaces, but enamel uses metal as a base, while porcelain uses ceramic as a base.
It gives a distinctive look, although both are somewhat reflective and nice to look at. Finer porcelain will be miles ahead of enamel though.
Also, the porcelain Credors seem to have indices painted on top of the porcelain, while the enameled dials have the indices painted beneath the enamel (in the paint coating of the metal)
>>51865869
Nomos is the very definition of shitty. I'd legit rather get a timex than a nomos.
>>51866408
Kek
>>51865310
How.
My Rock has landed. If anybody is actually interested I can try to take some more pictures later tonight.
>>51867542
Please, no more, this single pic is enough to make my eyes bleed for the next week!
>>51867542
This watch would look pretty good if it didn't look stupid as hell.
>>51867542
What an abomination.
>>51863344
It is better, however you get less for your money as back then you just paid more for a nice watch. The innovations in them were newer and actually for practical purposes. It wasn't luxury as much as it was a high end tool.
A comparable budget option was like 1/3 of the price of the Rolex if I recall correctly and even that was actually worse for practical purposes.
Nowadays you don't need to pay 1/3 of the price of a Rolex sub to get an adequate waterproof watch. You don't even need to pay 10%. It is genuinely something like 1% of the price of the Rolex if you don't want no luxury.
>>51863300
well to be frank they are ugly in a way
some could be argued to look actually nice if you like vintage designs, some can be easily modded to look genuinely pretty neat (pick a neutral-ish face, slap a decent mesh or something bracelet on it, swap the original g-shock-tier bezel for some regular one).
but most look good only if you embrace the ugly soviet russian retroness
nothing wrong with that tho and overall vostoks are my favorite watches, even being cheap and semi disposable is a feature to me. can't imagine actually wearing an expensive watch every day, nor do I like most designs of luxury watches.
bonus sentimentality for vostoks: their basic shittiness sorta makes them feel like they're really ~yours~, you don't just buy one and slap it on your wrist after setting the time (regulation helps em, at the very least switch the bracelet, the lack of a quick set date makes you fiddle with it, acrylic crystal needs a polishing every now and then to remove tiny scratches and it definitely makes sense to change bezels as most of them look too silly)
>>51865310
Another face I like
Thoughts on Michel Herbelin?
>>51867673
I would say squale is a brand that kept prices in keeping with inflation or was able to make them better.
I hope they stay in keeping with the tool watch mentality even if they get super popular, which I half expect they will for their price and quality
>>51863997
Sorry you fell for the biology degree scam that colleges are running. And yes, I said scam.
Employers do not need nearly as many bio majors as these colleges are turning out. And people like you don't know that at the beginning, and by the time you've figured it out, you're assfucked.
>>51868646
Hospital lab techs are needed though and the starting pay isn't too bad. It's a stepping stone career for sure but it's an option for sure for bio majors.
>>51868508
>Michel Herbelin
Pricey for swiss quartz and 2824-2 movements. If you'd like a French watch, check out Pequignet- they make their own movements at the high end, and use Seiko movements (NH35) for their base watches.
>>51861473
I just bought that watch today. I love it so far.
Need to get it taken to a watch specialist to see if it just needs a new battery or if it needs to be repaired, and also needs a new strap. Worth it?
>>51869297
The case isn't that bad. If you can manage the cost of a repair, I think it'd be a good idea. The dial is in great shape all things considered.
>>51869297
>Bulova Accutron
>Worth it?
Yes.
>>51869297
If it needs more repairing than just a basic servicing then it won't be cheap because that's a very unique movement, but accutrons are very cool and you should definitely get it fixed up nicely if you can.
>>51868646
Pretty much all degrees are scams in one form or another. I fell for the accounting meme and literally half the shit I learned in school could have been taught on the job. I mostly stayed in school just to have access to internships and the coveted rubber stamp, because outside the classes for my Econ minor, I wasn't learning anything groundbreaking or interesting in the least. The only reason why these degrees are pushed so much is because
>Employers want to externalize the cost of training (ie accounting knowledge) onto the future employee, while internalizing the benefit (profits derived from employees' professional work)
>Accounting and finance used to be skills that were somewhat rare and had a correspondingly high cost of labour, so it would be in the best interests of EY, KPMG et. al to push this "Rule the World" bullshit on impressionable high school and first year university students
To all the STEM people who think they're safe, guess what, you're next. Any time wages are high enough to justify some social stature, expect this to happen.
>>51864042
Orient Ray, studying tax. I'm beyond College but I still have professional exams.
>>51869624
>To all the STEM people who think they're safe, guess what, you're next.
Too late, it's been happening. STEM is a huge meme these days and there are so many people I'm studying with who ended up in it because they were pushed into studying muh STEM and are not going to make it. Doesn't help that I'm doing one of the top paying engineering degrees behind memetroleum engineering.
>>51869624
Is it good? I'm thinking of nabbing the mako USA. The best price for the ray I can find on a bracelet is about 75$ less than the MAKO USA, which seems about right for sapphire crystal and upgraded bracelet.
It's gonna be a desk diver, it come boating or swimming when on vacation.
So should I get the mako USA or try and nab a ray with a coupon code or something
What does /at/ think of pic related?
>>51869297
Absolutely.
>>51869893
https://youtu.be/Wgadua3PYnY?t=12s
>>51869895
>wasting money on a watch that can't even hold within 10x the precision it's rated to
Got the pepsi Orient Ray for free, what strap should I get for it? It doesn't look too good with a leather strap and the original rubber strap is too big and ugly.
>>51869935
It can actually do 1s/day, which is what it was rated for 45 years ago. Watchmakeranon was the one that serviced it even.
Maybe do some quick research before spouting stupid shit.
>>51869950
>for free
for free?
>>51869893
Just get a fucking black one you coon.
>>51869965
>he fell for the accutron meme
>he is happy to blow 10x the worth of a watch because of a brand name
>he posts on /g/ - technology
>>51869999
Nice quads! :)
>>51869950
Pepsis belong on bracelets imo, if not that, then an appropriately colored nato such as you have pictured, you could add a red or partially red nato
>>51869719
I think I'll switch to the King Meme
There are a lot of people who will make it to the end of their degrees, you don't need to be a genius to do math. They'll get fucked when they graduate into a saturated job market. It's especially bad for the petroleum bunch right now with oil at whatever ridiculously low price it's at. I have a friend out in Alberta who was just laid off because his company is basically bankrupt.
>>51869833
I like the Ray, it's pretty barebones (no hacking, no handwinding) but it's a nice-looking watch. A good office beater. Can't comment extensively on the Mako USA, looks are subjective but people here have mentioned that the sapphire is not AR coated and the bracelet is similar to the Ray's aside from the endlinks.
>>51870054
Yeah when I first mentioned looking at it a few days ago here a few people were like
>muh coating
>only end links
But when I proposed that an uncoated sapphire was still preferable to mineral for me, and that the end links were the largest issue with the mako bracelet, rhey had no other complaints.
I think it's rather similar to the ray and I like both of them, just with a couple upgrades that tick the right boxes for me.
An upgraded movement and AR coating g would be great but I'm not gonna bitch about progress, the price is still right.
I just can't decide on blue or black.
>>51870054
As to the meme degrees conversation, it's almost a blessing that my advisors fuck me over so I don't spend 8 bazillion on an education of questionable use.
Is the A+ certification and its ilk a meme? Seems like good skills to have, but will it qualify me for a job without a degree?
To keep on topic I'll show what I'm wearing today, same shit different day
>>51869973
Gotcha. Will a super engineer bracelet dwarf my bitch wrist?
>started liftan just to make wrists bigger so I can wear +40mm divers
>make gainz on bicep and forearm
>still have bitch wrists
fuck this gay earth
>>51870308
Might take you a while considering there's no muscles in your wrist. It'll get a little bit bigger eventually but it's going to take you a very long time.
>>51865762
How do vostok movements have such good shock protection at such a low price point?
>>51870308
Consume more milkshakes
>>51870376
Communism. And systematic oppression designed to make communism seem appealing.
>>51870054
Accounting dude, how do you see pharmacy? Everyone days its saturated as fuck but everyone I know personally who did pharmacy got a job right away.
>>51870349
>>51870394
y tho
>>51870188
>A+
In the past, perhaps, but not really nowadays. A more secure line of work, funnily enough, is watch repair. If you look on WUS and other forums, you'll see there's a shortage of trained repairers, and a lot more mechanical watches being made.
A lot of the machinists' trades are in need of more workers, too. If you could get into tool and die you'd be well-placed for future employment.
>>51870546
Not him, but it's a decent place to be. With the aging boomers, there's a demand for jobs in health services. Pretty much anything you'd like to try has an opening.
My line of work is education (post-secondary, colleges rather than university) in Canada, so that's what I've been seeing.
>>51870625
>watchmaking
I Googled schools for this a couple weeks ago out of curiosity and found a school in my state that was tuition free, founded by rolex but it was a general watch repair/making curriculum.
The only catch is that you need to front your own tools, which apparently cost 7 grand, and need to be able to do a monday-friday, 8-5 schedule
I would have to move and get a suitable job, or take a loan to live off of and buy the tools.
I thought I was too specialized to be able to find a job after I graduated.
>>51870123
Sapphire without AR is pretty fucking R. My poor man's SARB reflects just about everything and is unreadable in some conditions, but my real SARB is just fine. If you're just getting the sapphire for the scratch-resistance, then go for it. Also, having to bend the end links on the Ray every couple of weeks just so they keep their shape gets pretty... annoying.
>>51870188
Don't get me wrong, my degree ended up being useful and helped me break into the job market, and despite my bitching I have a pretty good salary now. It's bullshit, but given how many degree-holders there are out there, I feel as if a lot of employers won't even consider non-university people in my field- even though university isn't really required for a lot of the shit that people do. There is no reason why an entry-level bookkeeper making $39k needs a bachelor's degree and 2 years' experience. Can't comment too much on CS.
>>51870546
A few of my friends are in pharmacy. It is getting considerably more popular, which could have an impact on future salary, job security, etc, but for the time being it is pretty easy to get a job and salaries are good. The one thing is that the job itself is more boring than accounting... and believe me, that's saying something. I have the option to fuck off and do something else finance-related later in my career (which is good because I'd rather kill myself than do public accounting for the rest of my life), but I don't know what kind of flexibility, if any, pharmacy affords you if you end up not liking your job.
i'm looking at buying a used Fossil Flight CH2801, 50 bucks, any experiences?
>>51870743
CS is typically $50k starting, guaranteed job out the gate even with a 2.7 GPA. Then there's the 10% google freshmen position that makes $70k-100k after a few formative weeks. You can hardly do better without going petroeng.
>>51870708
Just like mechanical watches, it's from an earlier time when you apprenticed and worked from youth to old age in a specialized and intense field. At least with watchmaking in the olden days there was a good lead into gunsmithing.
>>51870743
Also, IT (A+) is not CS in any way imaginable.
>>51870751
>used fossil
For what purpose?
>>51864617
Wrist size?
>>51870798
I never said it was. Its just something a bit better than delivering/making food
>>51870625
>>51870708
Accountant dude here. Funny enough, when things get really bad in the depths of tax season, I joke to my coworkers that I'm going to quit my job and become a watchmaker.
But it's actually not as good as it looks, at least as far as I can tell. While there is a shortage of labour, people are also cheap fucks and try to pay you as little as possible. We had a family friend who used to work for Tag Heuer before they closed all their operations in Canada. He had a really toxic work environment, long hours and only made about $55k at age 49. He now works for an independent jeweller and makes even less. Apparently people who work for Swatch's luxury divisions make similar money, my watchmaker tells me it's the same with Rolex, although apparently those guys have killer benefits. All the watchmakers I know supplement their income by flipping watches they come across to ignorant bankers with more money than sense because people are constantly nickel-and-diming them on repairs.
>>51870777
Yes, I am aware of this, one of my friends had a cumulative average lower than my lowest university mark and he makes more than me now. And the guy barely works at all; 37 hour weeks, compared to an average of 50 for me.
>>51870798
Again, I cannot comment on the actual cert too much, just generally I see people with certs getting fucked because "why would I hire you when there are 10,000 bachelor degrees who are unemployed?"
Kinda like perlon on this komandirskie 1965, might get one that fits it better.
Anyone know how much it would cost to have the crystal pressed on this watch? Might just buy a press if it's too expensive.
>>51870743
>Also, having to bend the end links on the Ray every couple of weeks
Is this really a thing? On my mako they're exactly the same as when I bought it after almost 8 months, I wear the watch quite regularly.
>>51863393
Just found out this thing does flyback. Why does timex get so much shit again?
>>51870835
About 6.75" to 7"
>>51870895
My father's a DBA and makes 6 figures. At one point, he was working a grand total of 3 hours a week with that salary. Nowadays he works something like 30 hours a week. He keeps complaining about indians, though, so I'm assuming getting in the door might be hard.
>>51870964
They don't get shit here, but if I were to criticize them I'd say: must try harder. They have a lot of interesting heritage they could draw on if they wanted to. They could make some cracking mechanical movements based on their old designs and cash in on nostalgia- especially if they made them in the US. A while back they made some autos with cheap Chinese movements, which was a disgrace.
Instead they are content to crank out ho-hum basic watches. That makes money and that's fine in a way, but they could be so much more. Casio has higher-end watches, they should too.
>>51863393
I got pic related for free
>>51870964
It's cheap and cheaply made.
For the price, though, timex watches are fantastic.
>>51869624
guy you were replying to here. I am a stem person and i am actively cultivating secondary sources of income because you are fucking right
>>51871022
Where are you people getting all these free watches?
>>51870955
Mine keep separating from the main case of the watch, creating a small gap which looks really annoying. I think the springbars might be fucked.
>>51871007
Database administrator? And yes, Indians are the fucking worst. Most of our Indian clients haggle down our fees as much as possible, expect us to be there for them 24/7, and then refuse to pay the bill unless they're assured that we're losing money on them- I've had to falsify a few billing reports just to show the client that we're "losing" money beyond our already ridiculously low fee for them. If it were up to me, I wouldn't take on any more Indian clients unless they were of the whitewashed variety.
>>51871019
These are all valid points. Timex actually has a lot of heritage that they needlessly squander. Remind you of anyone? Bulova, perhaps? Everything Swatch owns?
>>51871333
>Everything Swatch owns?
I'll nominate IWC- I was looking at some of their older designs the other day, particularly powered by the classic Cal 89 movement. They were nicely styled and subtle- dressy watches with a robust movement intended for military use. Nowadays the only handwind IWCs are giant (45mm).
I'll also nominate Revue Thommen for a different award- they've brought back some of their old movements. Sure, they're not high-beat, but it's nice to see some old workhorses back in action.
>>51870349
>There is no muscles in your wrist.
>>51871396
Even fucking FAG Huehue is bringing back their old movements, I suppose the ETA jewery is going to produce some net benefit in the long run.
Stallone almost had taste back in the day.
>>51867542
This is so ridiculous. What movement is it?
>>51869950
That's not a ray. That's a mako.
>>51873959
アオザメ?
>>51873762
ETA 2824-2
Anyone here with a scout sniper? How's the watch? I really like marathon style divers but theyre too expensive. Borealis seems like a decent alternative
>>51875403
I haven't even heard of this brand. I'm gonna have to look into these
>>51875403
>90 clicks.
>>51871333
Reminds me of my soviet Raketa dress watch. Same font and similar hands.
>>51868233
How do you display those? Something downloadable or created by yourself?
>>51875403
I have one. I like it a lot, the tritium never gets old but it is a very large watch, I have 7.5" wrists and it's barely adequate. Very nice watch for the price though, I think they're $50 off until the end of the year too.
>>51864042
Is that building materials for civil engineers? Had to study the same shit last year and learn all those formulas and many more by heart the day before the exam. Horrible experience but at least I passed.
>>51871333
>refuse to pay the bill unless they're assured that we're losing money on them
So unless they think they're bamboozling you they won't pay up? What kind of nonsense is that?
>>51867944
>bonus sentimentality for vostoks: their basic shittiness sorta makes them feel like they're really ~yours~, you don't just buy one and slap it on your wrist after setting the time (regulation helps em, at the very least switch the bracelet, the lack of a quick set date makes you fiddle with it, acrylic crystal needs a polishing every now and then to remove tiny scratches and it definitely makes sense to change bezels as most of them look too silly)
Also you don't destroy a years worth of income, or an irreplaceable part of human heritage when you (somehow) wreck a Vostok. So it's really yours to use and abuse, there's no obligation to the world to preserve it.
>>51862797
Wow it's atrocious. He sounds like he's so disappointed he'll commit suicide.
Why didn't they just make a sweeping seconds hand?
