previous thread >>51891050
For users of all levels, including absolute beginners
If you are serious about switching to Linux, use it exclusively for 2 weeks, avoid booting to windows for that period of time, or you are likely to start retreating back to windows instead of getting used to linux as your new home and working on making it feel comfortable
You can safely experience installation process and the basic usage through a virtual machine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R33sFFhgkWk
>Recommended for Beginners:
Xubuntu, Mint, openSUSE
>Learn to RTFM - Read The Friendly Manual
man <insert command here>
>Resources:
/r/linux4noobs
/r/linuxquestions
/r/unixporn
http://explainshell.com/
http://www.server-world.info/en/
https://www.codecademy.com/learn/learn-the-command-line
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLtK75qxsQaMLZSo7KL-PmiRarU7hrpnwK
>>51909897
>linking to reddit
>>>/trash/
>>51909913
>sheepeshly hating all of reddit because he thinks its cool to hate it
do you have alternative to /r/unixporn?
please, do share, really
https://www.reddit.com/r/unixporn
or alternatives to the other useful subreddits?
Reposting from last thread
I've got two questions for you /flt/
1) I installed mint+cinnamon on an ssd that I had laying around. Didn't really feel like putting it on the same ssd as windows since I had a nightmare fixing that shit when I fucked something up in the past.
Looking at the disk in Windows it shows 3 partitions. Can anyone tell me what might be in those three? I'm mostly confused about the 8gb and 512mb partitions. I'm sure the largest one is just "basic storage" for things that I download into the disk like programs, media, ect, which I already have on other HDDs.
Why would it split the drive up like that?
2) What exactly makes one distro better suited for a specific applications or purposes compared to another one? I.e, what makes Debian great for servers compared to say Mint or Fedora?
>>51909957
>/r/linuxquestions
/flt/
>/r/linux4noobs
/ditto/
>/r/unixporn
>>>/desktop thread/
>>51909957
fuck off newfag
>>51910019
>>51910024
samefag
(yes, this is the same samefag)
>>51909985
For your first question, you might want to look at your partitions from one of your distros with gparted or such, it’ll give you more info about these. But some people might get more info from the labels shown here than I do, hopefully.
By the way, I recommend you to give custom name to your partitions if you have many, as to keep them organized and to avoid that kind of situation.
>>51909985
good questions
>1)
If your Windows setup is anything like my Win7-->Win10 setup, then the 8GB partition is most definitely a "Recovery" partition. Dunno about the 512MB one, though.
In general, both are inaccessible to you during normal Windows usage, and are probably only available during Windows boot menus.
>2)
Part of it is what's already installed (security-focused distros, for example, already come with security software), part of it is what's in the distro's repository, and part of it is the update schedule.
Debian (Stable Debian, that is) is very great for servers because it's rock solid. Once you get things up and running, things aren't going to break.
>>51909957
Woah, this is nice. People actually share their configs and tools/apps, unlike faggots on Desktop Thread.
I think it's time for being a redditor now.
>>51910212
To be honest, the whole /r/unixporn desktops are better than desktop thread fags.
>>51909985
EFI partition is /boot so UEFI knows how to load it
Second partition is / and contains everything
~8gb partition is most likely swap
>>51910212
people hate reddit because of the default subs
specialized subreddits are great source of information, especially IT stuff, programming, sysadmin, networking, whatever tools and frameworks comes to mind
>>51909897
Does anyone here use a PC with an AMD cpu and linux? Are there any problems with amd cpus in general when using linux (want to assemble my own pc sometime and since I'm a poorfagstudent amd cpus are probably a good choice)
>>51909897
I think that fox's solution is Antergos
>>51909897
debian vs arch?
not new, just getting back.
>>51910393
Debian, specially *buntu distros.
It just works.
>>51910416
the "buntu"s use debian-testing right, is that stable enough for a work computer?
>>51910393
depends what the hell you want
fun / screwing around -> Arch
easy setup / srs busns -> Debian
>>51909897
With Arch you never grow bored, there is always something you need to fix
>>51910452
I'm using Ubuntu as my daily driver since 14.04. This was the point where at least for me the GNU/Linux system felt stable enough for me.
Before that, I kept distro hopping and dual booting with Windows. So I think it's stable enough.
>>51910386
This
>>51909897
>Using cgdisk
>not parted
>>51910656
>using parted
>not cfdisk
>>51910771
>using cfdisk
>not gdisk
I just installed Arch Linux. However, I think I fucked up somewhere...
When I turn on my computer, a non interactive bunch of lines get displayed before I get to see the grub menu...Intel(R) Boot Agent GE v1.5.50
Copyright (C) 1997-2013, Intel Corporation
CLIENT MAC ADDR: EC F8 .. ... GUID: 445.......
DHCP....\
Then, after like 30 secondsIntel(R) Boot Agent GE v1.5.50
Copyright (C) 1997-2013, Intel Corporation
CLIENT MAC ADDR: EC F8 .. ... GUID: 445.......
PXE-E53: No boot filename received
PXE-M0F: Exiting Intel Boot Agent.
for like 2 seconds.
Finally, I can see the grub menu and boot on Arch.
Where did I fucked up?
>>51911082
Set your boot disk properly in BIOS, it's trying to boot from LAN.
>>51911082
its normal, PXE is about network boot, where you run PXE server and it finds OS there and boot from there
disable in bios network boot in some way and its gone
>>51910386
More like Architect
Antergos is plain retarded desu senpai
>>51911412
The fox is retarded and so it'll probably use useless antergos anyways
>>51911335
But booting from the hard drive is the first option... Ah! maybe because I plugged in into the bay for the second hard drive, not the original one ! Gotta try this! thanks.
>>51911385
Thank you ! I'll change that.
Thank you, based anons !
>>51911335
>>51911385
That was it. Thank you again. Somewhere, there's an anon grateful for your help
>>51910452
>stable enough
you don't even know what those words mean, you buffoon
I like cinnamon
Why is it so hated?
>>51911611
Hey, this is a friendly thread. Don't bully without explaining the mistake.
>>51910212
Not everyone in desktop threads is a cuteposter, nobody asks any questions. Just ignore the anime instead of poking them, or filter the trips.
>>51910393
>>51910461
this
arch is a toy, debian is a tool
fugg I forgot my pass
what now?
>>51910109
Debian Stable is great for desktops too.
>>51911830
If you like it then use it, don't listen to /g/ neckbeards who will tell you to use a tiling windows wm instead.
I hoverver tend to dislike it (well, mostly grew out of it) as I feel like this is merely a cheap replacement for gnome 2 (rip). Gnome dev went full retards and started their new stalinist gnome 3, removing features because they didn't like then, regardless of the users preferences.
I never felt attracted to KDE. Maybe tried to join too late and the party was already too far, maybe its "functional" design is too bloated for me... I then chose xfce for quite a while. I am now using Openbox and I like it for it to be very easy personalizable.
So, why do people here scream their hate for cinnamon, mate and other? Neckbeard pride if you ask me.
Why don't I use it? Because in every direction, I seem to find a better alternative.
>>51910393
I have never had arch break an install on me but I still consider it a sandbox. You can always enable the
>>51911830
Because MATE has more readily available themes which get people's dicks hard. Cinnamon is a bit to minty fresh for me but all its included software worked when I tried it last and it is quick enough. Half the fun is trying out multiple DEs or window managers until you find one you like.
I finally got Linux Mint working on my Laptop
It runs super smooth and looks sexy
would install again, thanks for your support
>>51912051
... LTS arch kernel. Sorry, I haven't made my 4chan whitelist permanent yet and can never remember what is needed anymore.
Any preferred video players? I mostly watch Chinese cartoons.
Using mint by the way.
>>51912094
I do like mpv; the default configuration is just fine. Don't go blindly copying configurations from the threads here. If you want a gui I would use baka-mplayer but uses Qt so mint might yell at you.
Mplayer, bomi, I have no idea what is minty enough for you.
I'd like to take on a little project, but i could really need help from some Linux Gurus out there.
TL;DR
i want native Void Linux booting on mah nVidia Shield K1
Long version
I gathered the information on how to create .mrom files to flash in MultiROM.
see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2093797
and https://github.com/Tasssadar/multirom/tree/nexus7/installer
so far so good.
But i'm unsure what file to select on https://wiki.voidlinux.eu/Embedded_Images
i took the USBArmory one, but that one isn't packing a kernel.img, just
>img53-usbarmory.dtb
>u-boot.imx
>uImage
Should i either take another one (rpi2? - has a kernel.img or compile a kernel on my PC and put it in there?)
Furthermore i'm concerned with the GPU driver, but with the Linux4Tegra project this got to be somehow managable, right?
>>51912166
Thanks man
One last question for you guys since I've asked two in this thread.
If I decided to mess around and configure a program myself, would I just find where the config file is in my filesystem, open the config file in nano, and edit whats in there? Is it that simple?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWJOMptw_2o
is this video legit?
I will use MPV instead of FLC
Your .dtb is a binary blob for telling the kernel about your device. I am pretty sure Uboot is the bootloader with a custom header.
http://www.informit.com/articles/article.aspx?p=1647051&seqNum=5
http://www.imx6rex.com/software/how-to-add-support-for-a-custom-board-into-yocto/
You can get more specific on your own faster than I can but If I understand your question you already have a custom kernel and set of instructions to for your gpu.
>>51912393
thanks, man i'll dig though it.
No, i have no custom kernel available right now, but nVidia provide Linux4Tegra, which is ubunto, so i think i could take a look there to hack something up.
I'm not really good with kernels, i just compiled some with autgen on gentoo and modified the standard kernels on N4/N7 2013. This is a whole other level i'm aproaching right now.
what the fuck did i do wrong?
* using Arch
* install goes smoothly w/ dual boot (in fact, using Windows to type this)
* boot back into Arch
* again, everything is pretty smooth
* install AMD drivers and do a bunch of other shit -- browser installs, color changes, font installs, openbox, etc. etc.
* last thing I was doing, I was basically just trying to get headphone audio to work (which, as I'm reminded, is my one never-ending beefs with Linux -- why the FUCK doesn't headphone audio work out the box for 90% of setups?)
* reboot again to see if my audio stuff would work
* grub menu seems normal (again, currently booted into Win10 via grub)
* enter into arch
* looks like it's doing the normal boot process until...
>black screen with just a blinking cursor
Google hasn't been too helpful, to be honest. Most people with "black screen, blinking cursor" problems either
1) hadn't already installed stuff and were just using the CD/USB to do things; or
2) had the problem occur after the first boot after installing; or
3) had the problem before GRUB even shows up
>>51912294
cd /path/to/file
nano file.bleh
or if write protected: sudo nano file.bleh
or just
nano /path/to/file/file.bleh
Yes it is just that simple, just don't add shit if you don't have some idea of what it does.
>>51912323
I suppose so, Ufw is the only software firewall I have used. Your router and common sense are where you should start with any firewalls. Sure install restricted extras but don't get anything you don't think you need, If wireless is already working you don't need whatever special broadcom driver. Most broadcom drivers are included in the kernel now anyway. Look at the wiki for both /g/, mint and other distros, they are all very useful.
>>51912437
Good luck, I am sorry I can't be of much more help.
>>51912501
Thank you, you took me one step further, which itself is immensive helpful for me.
>>51912453
Proprietary AMD drivers?
>>51912537
Nah, the open source ones.
I don't even know if that'd be the issue, since I still boot into the terminal instead of X.
>>51912453
Is your fstab correct?
Is your board UEFI or BIOS?
Are your EFI variables and partitions loaded and formatted correctly, marked as bootable ... ?
have you read https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Dual_boot_with_Windows?
Unless you got tunnel vision trying to get your headphones working and went insane I don't see how that could have broken anything.
>>51909897
Alright, this might sound like a bait, but why should I even bothered with linux if windows "just works"?
>>51912581
because you are curios?
you wanna see how its different?
you want more control over you system and the choices?
because you feel like you will have carrier in IT and its one aspect you might want to be at least a bit familiar with?
because you want to spend more time on /g/ arguing and shitposting about some stuff but stuff run out and you need new subject where you can start showing your strong opinion after 4 weeks of use?
>>51912608
sounds good enough
>>51912581
Because if you take a bit of time and think things through a bit it works too.
You then have much more control over a system that when built property can be extremely stable.
What you learn can be applicable later in both system maintenance and usability.
Things under the hood make more sense and aren't obscured as in windows or OSX.
You want to have a basic knowledge of various systems.
If you like computers there is no reason not to learn how to use a proper Unix like system.
>>51910379
AMD'S run perfectly fine with linux, it's graphics cards that are troubling
>firefox updates to 43
>try youtube
>every fucking video is just "an error ocurred, good luck faggot"
The fuck is his problem? youtube.com/html5 shows that everything is enabled(pic related). I'm on mint. any ideas?
>>51912581
because you’d be so cool using linux, you’ll be able to tell everyone you are a hax00r without any botnet on your computer, until you come back on /g/ and discover your distro is shit and you should change your distro, you decide to follow what they told you, and then repeat until you finally realize it was pretty useless and you go back to windows if you hadn’t discovered anything interesting with linux you’ll go back to Windows / OSX, and if you did you finally decide to settle to a distro of your own choice… for now.
But this guy >>51912608 is right too.
A bit more seriously: Linux is to me an interesting system to dig in and to manipulate, it gives me a feeling of freshness after using Windows and as said in the quoted pots, Linux is fun.
I also use some tools that are only compatible with Linux, so I have to use this OS, and I prefer it for a daily life as it is in my opinion smoother than Windows. But I do agree that Windows still is a good OS and if you’re fine with it, then good!
>>51912681
ok, got it
about:config → media.fragmented-mp4.gmp.enabled → false
>>51912681
What addons?
Otherwise I probably have no idea.
>>51912608
possibly the edgy, obnoxious image i've ever seen. every time i see it i want to follow viper's advice.
and that's coming from a gnu/linux user
For an update to >>51912453:
Added "noacpi noapic nomodeset irqpoll" to the GRUB menu line. Got a little bit more info from the boot process, but I didn't see anything weird.
A couple of booting messages about tty1 were the last things I've seen in my last retries, so I'll look into that.
>>51912579
>Is your fstab correct?
...probably? I wouldn't know what to check, but I made it the way the guide recommended.
I *did* make it with UUIDs instead of labels, though, so I don't know exactly how that'd affect the whole BIOS/MBR or BIOS/GPT thing.
>Is your board UEFI or BIOS?
BIOS, definitely. Made sure of that and also made sure to avoid the UEFI steps in the installer and try to stick with a BIOS/MBR install.
>>51912681
>youtube.com/html5
It 'works' for me, but I noticed that youtube uses 85-90% of my CPU since Firefox43. Any ideas?
>>51912720
I solved it using https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=206285
Looks like that was caused my manual fiddling with about:config earlier on, in order to get html5 yt playback back then.
>>51912724
>gnu/linux user
only radical fanatics, retards and noobs who dont know better call it gnu/linux
you also dont really know what edgy means
maybe the pic is bit cringeworthy in presentation, but its still true for some of us and not some edgy stuff
>>51912752
linux is a kernel. gnu/linux is the combination of the gnu operating system and linux kernel. this distinction is not "retard[ed]."
please learn how a gnu/linux system works and stop copy-pasting your counterfeit linus bullshit
>>51912724
You know you wanna try but fail to get some.
>>51912730
/etc/fstab
I don't dual boot so I don't know how much help I will actually be. Chances are just dicking around might fix it, if not just start over completely.
>>51912752
Do you really care about some lovers spat from years ago?
>>51912785
freedom is to name stuff you make, not name others people stuff
are you against freedom?
also as the image says, why not xfree86/gnu/linux? or why not gnu/ubuntu and gnu/debian?
learn your shit and stop spreading missinformation on account you want to feel special and trying to pretend you are using some correct term when Linus the creator of linux tells you that you are not
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU/Linux_naming_controversy
>When Linus Torvalds was asked in the documentary Revolution OS whether the name "GNU/Linux" was justified, he replied:
>Well, I think it's justified, but it's justified if you actually make a GNU distribution of Linux ... the same way that I think that "Red Hat Linux" is fine, or "SuSE Linux" or "Debian Linux", because if you actually make your own distribution of Linux, you get to name the thing, but calling Linux in general "GNU Linux" I think is just ridiculous.
Is debian good to start and learn with as a first time distro or should i go with ubuntu/mint?
>>51912826
debian is old shit with old packages
ho for mint or xubuntu
>>51912826
Debian wheezy is my OS of choice.
I recommend it with gnome-shell, but that's just because I really like gnome-shell with extensions. You might prefer cinnamon if you want something more familiar coming from windows.
>>51912752
Daily reminder that posting screenshots of fake posts is cancer.
Btrfs or etx4?
>>51912838
So what?
>>51912883
was on btrfs for some 9 months
didnt use any advanced feature, though I kept making automatic snapshots, just never revereted to them
had zero problems everything worked fine
but when I did fresh install on new system I went back to good old ext4 and rsync to another hdd for making backup/snapshots
How would I go about changing the view of this? I'd rather see my images without having to scroll through each of them.
>>51912824
And rms the creator of gnu says you are wrong.
Linus is a purely technical person, he doesn't care how you call some distro or usecase of the linux kernel as long as you don't misname the kernel he made.
>>51912907
not 100% but I think opensuse firefox version for kde has file picker tinkered with
>>51912838
>debian is old
Debian stable is old. This is not true for any other update branch.
>>51912927
>Linus is a purely technical person, he doesn't care how you call some distro or usecase of the linux kernel as long as you don't misname the kernel he made.
well then why dont we quote AGAIN how he does care:
>When Linus Torvalds was asked in the documentary Revolution OS whether the name "GNU/Linux" was justified, he replied:
>...but calling Linux in general "GNU Linux" I think is just ridiculous.
How do I rice on Debian as a total noob
Which Desktop Environment Debian should I download as a start?
Help
>>51912731
Mpv+youtube-dl through open with
>>51912953
ubuntu and mint are stable as well
debian is just old
and people usually ask just debian
>>51912965
like any other distro
also noobs on debian, where the fuck did you got that idea?
>>51912824
>freedom is to name stuff you make, not name others people stuff
which is exactly why you shouldn't call a form of the gnu operating system "linux." thanks for reinforcing my point.
>also as the image says, why not xfree86/gnu/linux? or why not gnu/ubuntu and gnu/debian?
well, debian's full name is debian gnu/linux, so that's just redundant.
you're forgetting that gnu isn't a piece of software like xorg. instead, it's a collection of software. so when i say i use gnu/linux, you can infer that i use xorg because it's effectively a part of gnu (although not officially of course).
>linus the creator of linux tells you that you are not
yes, linus is the creator of linux. but he is not the creator of gnu/linux. as i've said, please learn the difference and stop appealing to false authority.
(and don't worry, i had the same opinions as you when i was literally 14)
>>51912883
i use btrfs and like the snapshotting etc., but it can frustrate me sometimes. btrfs send/receive, for instance, is buggy as hell and has frustrating limitations.
in others words, i personally use btrfs because of the cool features, but often those cool features are broken, so i might as well be using ext4, which has better performance and reliability. it's up to you; i don't think there's any clear answer.
>>51913000
>also noobs on debian, where the fuck did you got that idea?
debian isn't some elite distro buddy, get over it
>>51913000
>also noobs on debian, where the fuck did you got that idea?
I hear it was stable, secure, and had a fuckheug list of packages compared to other distros.
Needless to say that I learned my lesson after a few days by breaking grub, breaking windows, and fucking up a multitude of other things by screwing around as root.
I switched to mint, this is ez.
>>51912963
You didn't actually read what you posted did you? Have you even seen revolution OS? Linus said it's fine to call some distro GNU/Linux as long as you don't call linux (the kernel) GNU/Linux.
Also how is it that every flt that is started by redditfag/shitty apps guy has some guy calling people fanatics for calling the OS they use gnu/linux in it?
Just reinstalled Antergos after trying out debian.
I can't do without the AUR.
>>51913058
quote what you are claiming.
and maybe get a life its ridiculous how you are in every flt every day and everytime butthurt
/g/ approved cinnamon themes?
>>51913000
Ubuntu is about as stable as debian testing. And I think most people here that don't use debian on a server run testing or unstable.
>switch from arch to gentoo
>everything just does not work
>switch to profile 12 (amd64/13.0/systemd)
>reboot
>everything just works
thanks systemd
>>51913091
no, when I read forums and debian users crap on someone that what they expect when they are using testing... hell that wont happen when you are on ubuntu
also debianfags just recommend debian, and noobs just ask about debian
dont get pissy if then comes factually correct statement that debian is not a great choice for most users as desktop OS
>>51913122
That's why you systemd.
>>51913073
You could start quoting correctly aswell. Also it's not just some claim, it's what linus said in revolution OS translated to be specific enough to even interpret anything from what he said in the first place.
But I am not gonna watch the entire movie a third time just to prove a point on a vietnamese ricegrowing forum.
/g/ is a slow board and I come here once a day to help out people with problems. And apparently once a day is enough to identify the same people after a while.
>>51913043
How can you be retarded enough to break Debian.
It is almost retard proof since you need to edit configuration files just to install steam/other packages while disabling cd reading.
>I game on Linux
So good that afterbirth works well. I also made it raid my shit, install non free shit and run kvm on it 24/7.
It is not hard. Then again I am going for my red hat cert in 12hours so I know bash/commands well enough to fix shit.
>>51913043
Just stick with Debian, all you did was learn to listen to the sudo nag. Just install debian and then cinnamon, boom linux-mint only you won't get bored in a month.
>>51913131
What? Debian is really nice, It was what I used for stability until I bit the BSD bullet.
Antergos has the best installer in the game right now.
Best on the rise distro out there.
>>51913122
at this point if you want a systemd free system you install Funtoo instead of Gentoo, as they actively develop and provide patches for things like Gnome to function without systemd.
>>51913182
Systemd is good for clustered servers that are not required to be turned off.
If you are running a simple server then chances are systemd is limiting server potential
>>51913040
Get over it, it's Linux.
>>51913226
the fact you are embarrassed by your nonstop attendance on /g/ is a good sign
but as you said its easy to recognize fags around after a while, so no need to be lying on your part
and about quoting... I linked to wiki, I quoted what he said with source, so its now on you... but you gonna have to one day get square with the world mate and accept the facts
>>51913131
Never was pissy. You took 2 different people as one. And yes it does happen on *buntu. I had broken packages more often on mint than on debian testing. Users on /g/ are usually not as tech illiterate as people on the ubuntuforums.
>>51913231
>How can you be retarded enough to break Debian.
Never said I broke debian anon, I said a variety of other shit.
>It is not hard.
Tell that to someone (i.e. me) who had never used a cli, package manager, or pretty much anything thing or piece of software that isn't on windows. It took almost 6 hours to figure out how to add repos in Synaptic.
>>51913326
We need to be mates
>random anon btw
>>51913267
>>51913273
>>51913122
>>51913182
systemd is nice but I miss knowing exactly what everything is doing. Maybe it has just made me a bit lazier.
There is still rc which was always better than sysV.
>>51913040
We've been over this 100 times, mate.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Linux/Name
>>51913294
Linux allows for a haxxor to hit backspace 28 times and get in. That shit's way better then M$ or Crapple... amirte?
http://lifehacker.com/you-can-break-into-a-linux-system-by-pressing-backspace-1748370796
>>51913455
nice job embarrassing yourself with this terrible post
>>51913370
Why don't you people at least educate yourself with Linux basics. Yes I said "Linux" basics.
When I was 12 (10years ago) I was introduced to Linux and suselinux. I was educated before using it by reading a book named Linux for beginners. I then was forced to look at hardware compatibility lists to ensure my hardware shit works.
Understand that Linux is and always will be a server kernel. Learn bash basics before you even think of moulding your distro into what you want.
Where me and you differ. I can recover from a complete system failure, however you will not know what to do and simply reinstall.
Not to be a cunt but people are skipping the first steps and wondering why shit breaks and is not being recovered from the break.
>>51913392
Bashrc I love it
>>51913494
>however you will not know what to do and simply reinstall
Hit the nail on the head, that's exactly what I did.
For what it's worth, I did stick with debian for about a week and learned some very basic things. I mean, I know mint is considered an "easy" distro so to speak, but I'd probably be having issues with it without the small amount of time I spent on Debian.
>>51913494
It is a new world out there and unfortunately not everyone will do it the right way, curiosity is the first step though.
That said https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvA_wgsX6eFAOXI8Rbg_WiQ is a good guy and covers alot of the basics.
>>51913510
Yayyy another one.
>>51913494
Hell use a bn and practice basics using bash on that.
bashrc "a file you change your current logged on user values with"
Nano " a simple and beginner cli file edit tool"
"Everything in Linux is a file" including /dev/sd* devices (Hdd)
Vim "unlike nano, vim is more complex file editor. It is improved over formatting a text over nano but is never referenced to nano"
>>51913577
Typing on tablets are near impossible.
Sorry for spelling
>>51912453
I think I know exactly where I fucked up.
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Activating_Numlock_on_Bootup#Extending_getty.40.service
So, basically, lesson learned not to do that.
>>51913494
Linus intended Linux to be desktop kernel.
>>51913577
Redirection examples
echo hey > shit
>send "hey" to the file "shit"
echo hey > shit
>replaces the existing shit contents with hey. Replaces anything in the file.
echo hey >> shit
>adds hey to any existing shit contents. It does not replaced text. Simply adds it.
ls command lists contents in your current directory.
"pwd" command which shows you directory are in.
The more you know
>>51913684
why are you doing this
>>51913625
Sources?
Linus had exclaimed an alternative to UNIX that was free. At the time UNIX was a server only system...
>>51913614
I never would have gotten there.
>>51913709
Bash basics. You need redirection to recover from fatal system failures. I am simply showing you that by having this knowledge, it will provide a much better Linux experience. You will not worry so much when you break something since you will know recovery techniques.
>>51913772
i mean i know these things, you just appear to be giving this strange seminar to no one in particular.
>>51913772
Bash super basics, I figured this was basic knowledge to anyone trying out any non-win/osx operating system.
>>51913772
One example is a Linux mint bug in cinnamon. If you run into it then your UI will lockup. When restarted you can then fixed and migrate the bug by using a friendly community solution that is shown in text.
They provide quick fixes until patched. Another need for redirection since you will always backup config files.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9iX2qSfMhE
>>51913791
One day, a small boy, a boy who lied when he clicked that he was over 18. That same boy will come here, see some education for Linux and then will turn to his Windows machine and wonder what gifts Linux provide.
With the teachers United we will pull a lost soul into the light while giving guidance.
Anyone else having problems with Steam segfaulting when using proprietary Nvidia drivers?
>>51913840
can you tl;dr his talking points because judging by the comments he's trying to make the claim that dual booting is inherently unstable which is a ridiculous claim to make. the only thing it'll fuck with is your clock if you don't set Windows to use UTC or Linux to use local time.
>>51913886
admirably idealistic of you
>>51913895
are you 100% sure it's the proprietary drivers causing it? you need to give us more information on your distro / setup. the more likely reason for Steam on Linux crashing is that you don't have the right multilib binaries.
>>51913915
It hates 64bit Libs.
I found out on deb that melsa sometimes determines 64bit. Stupid steam depends
>>51913915
Not 100%, but I do have both 64-bit and 32-bit binaries installed. I didn't have this issue with my AMD card. I haven't tried the open-source drivers yet so I don't know if they have the same issue. This is what dmesg has to say[ 1469.744929] steam[1225]: segfault at 43660208 ip 00000000f60a5400 sp 00000000ffb27cb0 error 4 in libnvidia-glcore.so.358.16[f493c000+1b19000]
>>51913961
https://github.com/ValveSoftware/steam-for-linux/issues/4144
There's no real solution here but to roll back to 355.11, if you can.
Currently I have win10, and linux mint boot along with it, with grub.
How do I delete linux mint all together, so I can isntall ubuntu instead?
>>51914030
Yep, I already posted on that thread actually. I might downgrade if this won't be fixed soon.
>>51914102
Just open up the partition manager on Windows and delete the Mint partitions.
>>51910019
this is actually a fair point
>>51910212
Must just be newfags not sharing configs in desktop threads because that's the only place I've gotten configs.
>>51911412
this
>>51911434
but also this haha
Anyone else hate /Desktop Thread/?
If you observe it, you'll realize that most stuff posted there is anime waifus, not the desktop.
Also, they'll rate you low if you don't have anime included with your desktop pic.
Can we do anything to kick /Desktop Thread/ out of /g/? It belongs in /a/ anyways.
>>51914125
Will this assign them to the windows partition? If yes will it also merge to one partition?
>>51914161
i'd rather kick the /v/edditors first
>>51914142
Flood them with /r/unixporn's desktops, do a raid.
>>51914161
I hate the Desktop thread because it's a bunch of effete retards circlejerking over the same pastel anime backgrounds thread after thread, they all talk the same fake way that MLP fans do with ascii hearts and fake stutters. They need to be eradicated.
>>51914208
>>51914142
Meant to >>51914161
>>51914193
/g/ is supposed to be a hardcore niche board.
Why do weebs and gaymens litter here?
>>51914161
Some of us are still there to provide useful input. I can't be in all of them though, it is a shame they move so fast with all the shit that goes on in them, see if /w/ will take them. I don't mind them posting their desktops and shit but the general circle jerk is annoying along with no longer giving two shits about anyone elses desktop.
>>51914142
Fuck off ben, no one shares their config there.
>>51909957
>hating reddit
>because its cool to hate it
that isnt the reason people hate reddit
>>51914249
Nobody asks.
>>51910393
Arch, but Debian is second for sure.
>>51910452
they use unstable
>is that stable enough
lol please avoid meaningless buzzwords, friend.
>>51910468
The only issue I have ever had on arch was the recent bug in nvidia drivers that makes steam crash constantly, and that's really nvidia's fault.. (and holy shit am I mad)
>>51911830
It's.. well it's more that there are better things, not necessarily that Cinnamon is bad.
It _is_ bad, but there are definitely worse things, e.g. unity, pantheon, etc. Cinnamon is trying to appeal to people with baby duck syndrome by trying to work like Windows.. Kinda pointless considering that's what we're all trying to get away from. Unity and Pantheon suffer the same, except by trying to appeal to Mac OS users. Try out openbox or i3 if you ever get bored of cinnamon. Keep in mind that most WMs are pretty ugly out of the box, but can be made very nice looking. Just get some configs from here: http://dotshare.it/
>>51911956
Boot liveusb and/or recovery mode, use passwd command to reset password after mounting your appropriate partitonis. alternatively you might just be able to delete /etc/passwd to remove all passwords. This is assuming your hard drive is not encryped, though.
>>51912094
mpv for objective master race tier
vlc for comfy playlist tier (pic related)
>>51912453
probably related to the gpu driver install
can you get into a tty with ctrl-alt-f1/f2/f3?
>>51912581
GNU/Linux is very similar to god tier UNIX. Windows took over due to UNIX costing thousands and GNU/Linux taking too long to be made all while BSD was in the middle of a lawsuit and also couldn't release. It's a sad history lesson that really brings me to tears. tl;dr windows is just a meme that got lucky and got popular on accident, use a real OS
>>51912826
yeah it's a great first distro, just stick with testing or unstable as stable has very old software. try arch later on
>>51912883
ext4 for now.. but btrfs someday
>>51912965
openbox/i3 (Try both)
>>51914217
>>51914238
Didn't realize there is a circlejerk... but now that I think about it, some desktop pics are shitted in the threads over and over again, without any alterations made.
>>51914290
>unironically using the term "GNU/Linux"
>>51914260
>[citation_needed].jpg
I am failing to set up the sound in Arch. I have installed alsa and my goal is to control the volume via both gui in my tint2 pannel and the built in keys in my laptop keyboard.
Despite readfing the alsa part of the wiki and trying to follow tuto on youtube, I didn't managed to make it work.
I consider using Obkey but I have no idea what I'm doing.
Can somone light me up?
>>51914322
What's your sound card?
>>51913326
"a kernel by itself gets you nowhere. To get a working system you need a shell, compilers, a library etc. [...] Most of the tools used with linux are GNU software" (kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/Historic/old-versions/RELNOTES-0.01)
>>51914340
Since I run on a laptop, I believe it to be intel pch (since I want the sound via either built in speakers or audio jack)
>>51914290
cont.
>>51913000
>also noobs on debian, where the fuck did you got that idea?
please don't perpetuate the meme that new people should start with ubuntu or mint or whatever other cancerous distro, I've actually sat down real life friends in front of debian and arch and they do just fine. If someone is on /g/ they have no reason to worry. Not only are the distros equally easy to use, but Ubuntu will create a lot of bad habits and limitations that will stunt their growth.
>>51913071
please try to avoid antergos in the future, although it's not worth reinstalling over I guess
http://sourceforge.net/projects/architect-linux/files/
>>51913266
have you tried architect?
>>51913895
yeah it's a global issue right now
>>51914102
you can just mount the existing mint partitions from the ubuntu installer and it will overwrite them.. no need to overcomplicate things
>>51914161
Ugh.. Not only is this attempted censorship, but your observations are pretty inaccurate, as is your claim that it belongs on another board. They're desktops not wallpapers so they belong on /g/, not /wg/, and they don't belong on /a/ just because of what they choose as their wallpapers or themes. You really just aren't making sense.
>>51914249
I'm not ben and I have several pages bookmarked of people who linked me to a github with all their dotfiles, please don't spread misinformation.
>>51914309
It's the most correct term and an easy to to distinguish it from the kernel and things that use the kernel but not any GNU software. Please don't start drama as though people are taking sides. I care the most about being correct, couldn't care less about some Stallman versus Torvalds bullshit. Have a nice day.
>>51913326
"Linus Torvalds:
There's alot of these programs uh...done by the Free Software Foundation and done by other people like Linux and there's a symbiosis between Linux*(he refers to the kernel) and the programs so the programs run on Linux*(the kernel) and at the same time they take advantage of Linux* as a platform while Linux* takes advantage of the programs by just being able to use them.
Interviewer:
what programs?
Linus Torvalds:
Uhmm... the main one is actually the GNU C Compiler which without a C compiler it would not have been possible to make Linux* or most of the open programs available."
The * means it stands for the kernel.
Copied this straight from the wikipedia talk page someone here linked.
>>51914350
"I’m doing a (free) operating system (just a hobby, won’t be big and professional like gnu) for 386(486) AT clones"
--Linus Torvalds, 1991
>>51914300
It's no different than battlestation threads. Of course the same people are posting so they will post their desktops. If you haven't made major changes there's not really a reason to prepare a newer screenshot. Don't stretch for reasons to hate the thread. It's a fine idea and usually presented well. Filter people you don't like. You can filter tripcodes, names, and also the image md5 if it's truly the same pic being posted over and over that you dislike.
There is a poster in the thread who uses very ugly fonts and wallpapers and I usually filter all his images because they're upsetting to the eyes. In general I find desktop threads are pleasant to browse through.
>>51914371
Then it probably works ootb. Do you see any controls in alsamixer?
>>51914350
Before Linux kernel came out, GNU was a meme.
GNU Hurd was unusable. Linux actually allowed GNU to grow, but it's not the other way around.
>>51914399
>presented well
>desktop threads
Pick one.
>>51913713
Sources?
UNIX is not a kernel.
New loonix-fag here. Is there alternatives to flash player for Firefox? I need to be able to watch my wrestling on the network live sometimes.
Hi, I didn't found a homeserver thread, and I would like to ask soem things about Orange PI hardware. Can I here, some anon would like to help me?
>>51914431
Shumway? It is still shit though.
>>51913713
Minix you're forgetting Minix. Linus used Minix for years, that was his main OS he even used it to compile the early releases of the linux kernel. After he acquired an i386 desktop he wanted something that he could use to directly interact with its hardware so he wrote the kernel for his own purposes borrowing concepts from Minix.
>>51914399
>desktop threads are pleasant
how can you find desktop fags like loli, ushifag and ben pleasant? they are puke-inducing.
>>51914450
>Shumway
I'll try it out. If it works then I'm fine with it.
>>51914409
"...GNU C Compiler which without a C compiler it would not have been possible to make Linux* or most of the open programs available."
Linux wouldn't have been possible without the GNU project.
>>51914431
Shumway, lightspark, gnash.
Or use a media player.
>>51914418
I'll pick the latter I suppose, considering it'd be boring if everything was always perfect, and it's comforting that desktop threads are full of real people. I think it's presented well in general, not that everyone has a good desktop.
>>51914405
By default, the HDA Intel HDMI is displayed.
I press f6, select HDA intel PCH and I see the mixer similar to the one I see in the tutos.
I then input in a terminalamixer set Master 5+
but I get as an outputamixer: Unable to find simple control 'Master',0
>>51914380
Only one of the cuteposters bothers to post new pics of his desktop each time he responds. My main gripe is that are 3+ threads a day. Right now it is alright.
>>51914463
You ignore it and look at the what they've done, I don't see trips so its whatever.
>>51914487
You have to change the pch to be the default card, instead of hdmi.
>>51914463
I don't mind ben too much, neutral on ushifag (I just scroll past if that's who I think you're talking about), and I can't remember if loli is one of the people I don't like or not.
Anyway, I don't personally filter very often, but if those dudes are the only thing bumming you out about desktop threads, filter away. No reason to let those dudes stop you from enjoying posting a desktop.
>>51914470
The BSDs used GCC for compiling as well.
>>51914470
It's a symbiosis, so let's call it Linux/GNU. Okay?
>>51914494
The 3+ threads a day issue is because they're about as active as a /vg/ general, but /g/ threads die way faster. It'd be nice if we got a bump limit boost.
>>51914479
>not everyone has a good desktop
I think I do not hate Desktop Thread because people post "bad" desktops. That's just a matter of perception.
There are a ton of other things to hate upon Desktop Thread. The concept of the thread is nice, but it's polluted badly with hardcore weebs and circlejerks.
>>51914260
please do tell me why would you hate
/r/linux4noobs
/r/linuxquestions
/r/unixporn
and yes, it used to be trendy to hate leddit on 4chan because they stole our memes
>>51914527
Why linux/gnu instead of gnu/linux? Why not gnu + linux? Not trying to flamewar just genuinely curious.
Hello, I've installed Puppy Linux on a shitty laptop I had lying around and I'm amazed at how smooth it runs. I just downloaded the windows installer and it gave me no options so now I have 2 partitions on the laptop, one for windows and another one for puppy.
I just want puppy linux on this laptop, how do I format the windows partition and 'add' it to the puppy partition, and make puppy the default OS?
>>51914589
>stole our memes
what memes?
>>51914383
Whats the point?
>>51914513$ aplay -L | grep :CARD
hdmi:CARD=HDMI,DEV=0
hdmi:CARD=HDMI,DEV=1
hdmi:CARD=HDMI,DEV=2
default:CARD=PCH
sysdefault:CARD=PCH
front:CARD=PCH,DEV=0
surround21:CARD=PCH,DEV=0
surround40:CARD=PCH,DEV=0
surround41:CARD=PCH,DEV=0
surround50:CARD=PCH,DEV=0
surround51:CARD=PCH,DEV=0
surround71:CARD=PCH,DEV=0
Doesn't it means that the correct card is already selected as default?
>>51913294
damn you're a master of rhetoric
>>51913439
what's your point? why post this link?
>>51914556
The "hardcore weeb" bit is kind of a given considering we're on 4chan. Despite what you may have heard, this is a website for fans of anime.
>circlejerks
This comes in some form with all generals. I don't mind it. Nice to have a sense of community.
>>51914602
It's better for sorting things if you use the kernel. Linux is used in many devices with various userlands wrapping around it. GNU is only used in desktops and servers for the most part. Linux kernel is more significant.
>>51914604
run gparted from within puppy and delete the windows partition, apply the change and then you should be able to expand the puppy partition
you may have to boot a liveusb or something to modify the partitions considering you're using one
>>51914619
>Whats the point?
He asked for a quote proving that linus doesn't take the stance the depp poster said linus did. It's from an interview after revolution OS.
Can I get some recommendations for a internet browser?
Want to get away from chrome, I've been trying qupzilla but I don't like it very much.
>>51914602
Because the kernel loads up before other services, it is correct to call it Linux/GNU.
Stallman emphasizes on using GNU/Linux because he thinks that GNU is the primary contribution and Linux is secondary contribution. But this is false. True that GNU began it's development way before Linux, but that does not mean Linux is just another component of GNU OS.
Do not forget that Linux was developed independently of any influences of GNU. GNU could not fix their Hurd, so they NEEDED Linux.
>inb4 Linux was compiled with GCC.
>>51914693
what stand, we have quote of him saying that gnu/linux is ridiculous, what you quote helps your point none
>if you actually make your own distribution of Linux, you get to name the thing, but calling Linux in general "GNU Linux" I think is just ridiculous.
>>51914709
>Because the kernel loads up before other services, it is correct to call it Linux/GNU.
but I use GNU GRUB.
>>51914661
This is a niche tech board, not an anime board in any sense. Amazon started out with selling books doesn't mean it has to comply it's customers to buy a book with every other item.
>This comes in some form with all generals.
Not with /flt/, /wdg/, /sqt/, and other functional boards.
>>51914668
GNU is used with different kernels aswell so I am not sure if your point counts. I think stallmans way of calling it would actually be the most technically correct and sorted by what you say. (GNU +Linux) maybe even the most neutral name. Correct me if and where I am wrong.
>>51914700
Try Midori.
>>51914738
nice bait, but bootloader is not part of the OS.
We are debating on naming of the OS, ushifag.
>>51914729
What if linus refers to the kernel in the last part? How do you know he doesn't?
>>51914643
Try doing sudo alsactl init.
>>51914772
It sounds better with "Linux + GNU"
>>51914677
I can't unmount the windows partition, tells me it's being used
>>51914808
because he says "Linux in general"
and because no one refers to kernel as gnu linux
so he would not be talking about just kernel when that issue is not on the table
>>51914803
so the windows bootloader is not part of windows?
>>51914709
Stallman has been calling it gnu+linux for quite some time now.
>>51914782
Can't get it to work. Says I'm missing shared libraries even though I have them.
>>51914535
I would be fine if that were to happen too. As before, I don't mind them, hell I have a couple old configs around. I just wish there was more variety because most newcomers are either turned away or get >>51911518.
I stick around because it has been a nice place before and it still can be. I think a bump limit is a fine idea.
Something does need to change though because it is already immediately shat on in any other thread.
>>51914765
There are still people with all sorts of interests and many found 4chan because of the japanese culture boards.
>>51914822>>51914803>>51914772>>51914738>>51914729>>51914709
Just stop or make a GNU/Linux flame thread. It doesn't matter.
>>51914822
Doesn't matter because it's a plus.
>>51914832
>being this retarded
so why is it called "windows" instead of "Windows NT/Windows"?
Why do you have to compare it with Windows in the first place? It's not like Linux/GNU and Windows share the same past.
>>51914772
GNU can be used with other kernels but in practice it's only been been used with two others from what I can tell, FreeBSD's kernel and HURD.
Although Debian GNU/kFreeBSD is pretty great I think it needs more developers if anything. GNU/HURD would be interesting too but that project doesn't seem like it will ever be in a usable state.
>>51914818alsactl: sysfs_init:48: sysfs path '/sys' is invalid
Found hardware: "HDA-Intel" "Intel Haswell HDMI" "HDA:80862807,80860101,00100000" "0x1028" "0x05bd"
Hardware is initialized using a generic method
Hum... no mention of intel PCH :(
>>51914866
Are you using Slackware?
How do I make linux mint look cooler senpai
>>51914878
>so why is it called "windows" instead of "Windows NT/Windows"?
i'm not sure what you're trying to say here.
if people called windows "the windows kernel," i'd see the same problems. but windows is, like gnu/linux, a collection of a kernel and other stuff.
>>51914870
So are you saying GNU and Linux both have equal contributions?
>>51914895
Perhaps the chip in haswell is not supported yet.
>>51914897
No I'm on Ubuntu 14.04
>>51914912
You go to the Desktop thread and ask there.
best python ide with git support?
I've seen pycharm has built in git support, I want something like that? is pycharm comunity edition any good?
>>51914883
GNU has been used with NT aswell. Slow as hell but it's a cool project.
>>51914912
/r/unixporn
search 'mint'
look
read comments
Would love to use Linux as my main OS, but I like to play games. And before you all tell me that Linux runs games just fine, it doesn't. There is often something weird about the game that doesn't quite feel as good and there is always noticable performance drop
>>51914918
>i'm not sure what you're trying to say here.
Kernel --> Linux | Windows NT
Higher level components/services --> GNU | Windows.
It is actually futile to compare it with Windows, because Windows was developed as a whole, and not two independent entities.
>>51914954
Emacs.
>>51914941
Then try Firefox.
>>51914967
Nice personal blog entry.
Now off to >>/v/ you go :~)
>>51914934
That would be strange as I got it working when I tried Ubuntu.
>>51914967
i am same as you
so I used linux for everything but the games
with my ssd the boot between the system is less than 30 seconds
feels good not carrying about garbage cracks I torrent...
want to play? boot windows
finish playing? back to arch it is
>>51914967
>>51915005
/v/edditors please go
>>51914967
Dual boot or get a second computer(small form factor preferrably) to run linux for your basic shitposting 4channing needs and leave windows on that one for gaymen abd put it to sleep when you don't need it.
>my face when i put linux on a fuckedup router, disabled problematic switch port and it works flawlessly for 15 minutes now, surviving reboots
openwrt is the shit, real power of linux
So I'm installing Antergos alongside an already existing OEM Windows 10.
I have shrunk the partition and its ready to go.
I'm worried about what to do with the /boot.
I've got /, /home, and /swap but I don't know what to do with /boot in order for Windows and Linux to be able to be booted.
What do?
after my 8th attempt, I have arch linux up and running. All i gotta say is fuck bootloaders and fuck the correct partition table types and partitions. fuck uefi and fuck msdos.
Also, gunna reinstall because my locale is fucked.
But my question is, should i have seperate partition for /root and /home? or just one big partition for the entire linux install?
>>51915164
Depend. If you put /home in a seperate partition it will allow you to reinstall without losing your data.
>>51915140
cant tell hows antergos install goes
but with regular arch you do this
- format your selected partition as ext4
- mount it in to /mnt
- make boot directory on it
- in to that boot directory you mount windows created boot partition
- and you continue as usual with the UEFI installation
I done it like that on my system, worked flawleslly except for two things
- windows make boot partition small so I cant have 3rd linux bootable from there
- on mobo update I could get only to windows, had to chroot with usb and do bootctl install again
but I really dunno how antergos goes about this
>>51915202
never thought of that, that's extremely convenient. Should I do that? is it considered best practice. also how do you avoid putting to much shit into the root partition? Im at a loss when it comes to dealing with the linux FS and where shit should be stored.
Also how important is it to make a user and not use root at all times?
>>51915132
Please, never post that ugly bitch again.
>>51915140
>Using Antergon
Not using Architect installer in this day and age is plain straight blasphemy
>>51915164
wiki recommend single large, it makes absolute sense and benefits of separation are few while potential to waste space or do a fuck up when deciding how much where can bite you any day
>>51915202
Exactly what data are you talking about?
>>51915285
cheese pizza and maymays
>>51915241
I would say very.
>>51915241
>Also how important is it to make a user and not use root at all times?
Very. There's no reason to not do all your work from a user with sudo privileges.
>>51915241
Yes it is considered best practice. I would recommend it if it isn't too much trouble for you. I would create a user desu.
>>51915285
Everything on /home
>>51915235
Antergos doesn't go about it this way but thanks for the input.
>>51915298
does it require any bullshit setup to let the user have access to i3 and other programs? Im afraid to make a user out of fear its going to be a pain to set up permissions
>>51915301
>Yes it is considered best practice.
by who? partitioning these days is a subjective thing. you do whatever works for you. i personally do one big partition because i barely store anything meaningful in home, and configs are easily backed up to a different drive with one command.
>>51915322
make sure your user is in the right groups. audio,video,wheel for starters. you're not configuring grsecurity here, Linux permissions aren't difficult or a real hassle.
>>51915322
No, just install sudo, add your user to the wheel group and allow wheel to sudo, depending on distro that may all be done for you.
