>Requesting purchase advice:
http://pastebin.com/hjHkKDyM
>/g/ wiki headphone FAQ:
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php?title=Headphones
>Previous thread:
>>51774866
>Budget
$100-$150
>Location
Canadaur
>Source
Topping VX1
>Preferred type of headphone
circumaural
>Open or closed
open
>Comfort level
comfy
>Preferred tonal balance
neutral
>Preferred music
Jazz, classic rock, 90s hip hop; these are the main ones
>Past headphones
Fostex T50RP modded by mayflower electronics. I like the clear sound and build quality, but I want something that emulates a sound stage.
>>51781909
HD558 is on sale on amazon.ca
>>51781909
558/598 wasn't the most clear but this was fixed using EQ by removing the chunk of upper bass it had.
>>51781969
>558/598
>removing the chunk of upper bass
lol
>>51782006
Don't start this HD558 shitposting.
>>51782013
what shitposting? you're trying to imply they're heavy on bass.
>>51782020
>>51782013
>>51782006
>>51781969
>>51781963
are they a steal for 100 bucks?
>>51782020
That wasn't me who posted that. And according to DF it's bass biased but it does roll off.
>>51782026
Not a steal but lower than what they usually ask for.
>Budget
$100-$220
>Location
Canada
>Source
Laptop, phone, iPod classic
>Preferred type of headphone
circumaural (maybe on-ear if it's really comfy)
>Open or closed
closed, since I'll also use in public
>Comfort level
comfy, preferrably
>Preferred tonal balance
a little bassy, but not overwhelmingly bassy
>Preferred music
classical, jazz, electronic with a good amount of bass (like Balam Acab stuff, also some trip hop), and stoner rock
>Past headphones
Errr, the earpods. Yeah, I know. I want to upgrade to something very nice.
>>51782051
>And according to DF it's bass biased
stop posting you utter retard
this is now a realtek thread
OC btw do not steal
Also check em
>>51782051
with a bass boosted DF curve it's still bass light
>Budget
$200-$350
>Location
U.S
>Source
Phone, desktop with soundcard
>Preferred type of headphone
Over the ear.
>Open or closed
Currently closed, but very interested in open headphones, but I've never listened to a pair.
>Comfort level
Sofa
>Preferred tonal balance
Not sure.
>Preferred music
Rap; House; electronic;
>Past headphones
ATH-M50x, Sony MDR XB950bt/b. Love the crisp, clear sound if the m50s. The Sony pair is warm, but overtly so, the bass covers up a lot of detail.
>>51782059
Learn how target curves and compensation works instead of ad hominem shitposting.
>>51782051
They're 180 dollars off the normal price if you didn't notice
>>51782138
their -real- normal price is $100
i have grado sr60e's
do i buy vsonic gr07 bass editions or m50x's next
>>51782139
>>51782121
You really don't understand compensation curves, do you?
Golden Ears uses Diffuse Field + X-curve compensation + bass compensation, that's regular DF with two changes.
>>51782181
>bass compensation
ding ding ding
>>51782149
Yes but I live in Canada and everything is inflated because oil has gone to shit
>>51782190
You really don't understand how this works, do you?
Let me break it down to you so you comprehend it with your thick skull.
If you take a theoretical flat DF headphone and compensate it GE's curve it would show up as being bass light and having highs that are positively shelved. Target curves 101.
If you place the HD558 on a purely DF target curve, it peaks in the 50Hz-500Hz regions, hence my use of the term biased despite having rolled off sub-bass.
>>51782256
yeah but what i'm saying is that rrp or "base price" isn't normally the price they're sold at. the $180 off is super inflated
>>51782268
>500hz
>bass
smhtbh
>>51782293
I like how you conveniently missed 50Hz, shitposter.
>>51782300
i like how you think that the 50hz response on the hd558 is anything even worth mentioning. only an idiot who has never heard them would ever consider calling them bassy by any definition.
>>51782317
>b-but if you listen to them they h-have no bass
kek, always resort to memes and shitposting when you get told
>>51782326
>when you get told
whatever helps you sleep at night, shill
>>51782068
ALC1150 Master Race Reporting In.
>>51782162
Vented IEM over closed headphone, why either?
GR07 if you want the portability. Faces competition in the Fiio EX1 for the vented IEM position.
>>51782410
>ALC1150
noice
Which of these have the "best" bass:
DT 770
DT 770 Pro
DT 880
DT 990
>>51782464
well i have open headphones, and i don't want another open-back pair. i want a different experience, so its IEM vs decent closed-back
I've got ~100$ US, looking to get a new pair of headphones for x-mas. No amp, would be plugged straight into the onboard sound or the soundcard I have. Used mainly for games and comms.
>>51782965
Also they MUST be over the ear, pref closed but I guess it doesn't really matter.
>>51782965
http://pastebin.com/hjHkKDyM
>Budget
~100-125$
>Location
US
>Source
PC - Onboard sound, also have a x-fi soundblaster soundcard from ages ago.
>Preferred type of headphone
Full size
>Open or closed
Doesn't really matter
>Comfort level
High, long hours spent with them on
>Preferred tonal balance
Decent bass, Crisp sounds overall
>Preferred music
Rap/Metal/Rock
>Past headphones
Never owned an actual pair of headphones, just headsets.
Turtle Beach HPA2, Logitech G35, and most recently Sennhesier PC350
>that feel when K7xx master race
>>51781898
What is /hpg/'s favorite iem?
>>51783272
>Rattle.
>>51783326
E10
FLAC stream: http://chiru.no:8081/stream.flac
Currently playing anime music
>babies too poor to afford speakers have to listen to their little headphone toys
>>51783404
use flac 1.3.1 noob
>>51783406
See pic:
>>51783341
>>51783404
why wouldn't you stream in a non-retarded format
>>51783463
Reasons why FLAC is superior:
- Free
- Smaller filesize to wav, wma lossless and alac
- Original data
- Sounds better
- More crisp highs, luscious lows, liquid soundstage
- Greater resolution detail
- Resolves better
>>51783474
no no no
-Massive Bass
-Liquid Mids
-Extended Treble
>>51783463
Because if you're listening to headphones above 15 dollars, you don't want any bottlenecks, retard.
>>51783406
yeah except a good pair of speakers is actually cheaper than a lot of these headphones
Hello /g/
I bought a pair of W5000's a few months back and I'm really quite happy with them. Had to bend the headband slightly to get them to clamp just a little bit more, but wasn't really an issue.
I was reading about them online before I bought them, and was reading some more this evening out of curiosity.
Apparently the measure badly, but I don't really understand how to read this graph. Can someone explain to me how they measure badly? What's considered ideal exactly?
Personally, I prefer it if highs are more pronounced than the mids, and the mids more pronounced than bass, which is what I feel like I got with these headphones. I don't really have regrets about buying them, maybe spent too much, but I don't particularly understand the graph.
>>51783474
pic related
>>51783483
your headphones are the bottleneck though lmao
anything but apple earpods are a waste of money
just eq this until its perfect http://www.dx.com/p/xty-operator-style-earbud-microphone-set-2631
anything more is a waste of money
>>51783404
>high on DXM and yerba mate
>listening
>quality is the greatest thing I have ever heard
>>51783483
if u havent spent at least $2000 on your headphones u have no reason to use flac
>>51783404
No one here believes in HQ anything. Everything sounds the same. Plug all your shit into your Realtek. Trashcan your Stax. Stream only 128kbps.
>>51783548
does that mean if my headphones are $2000, I should use flac? [spoiler]because they retailed for that much[/spoiler]
>>51783563
no u have to -spend- that much it all depends on how much went out of your pocket not the retail price of them
>>51783038
anyone?
>>51783578
okay, I'm going to sell it for retail price and buy a new one. does this mean I can use flac now?
>>51783589
ye
well i mean assuming you've spent AT LEAST the same amount on a DAC and an amp, but i trust that u wouldnt be stupid enough to run the headphones from anything less
>>51783038
LRN2WIRECUTTER
http://thewirecutter.com/reviews/the-best-150-over-ear-headphones/
>>51783601
$2000 combined? I already have that covered
can I listen to my flac files now?
>>51783623
no, $2000 each you dumbass. rules of 3rds
where did all these morons come from
>>51783640
i dunno dude where DID you come from
>>51783729
i came from the premier board /b/ obviously
how are you enjoying your 2000 dac man does it sound nice
>>51783744
ye dude but im saving up for the msb select dac
>>51783751
nice nice
this is money well spent
>>51783751
there is definitely a huge difference between this and an odac
like the odac sux now that this is here
i know this because they said so, and theres no way they would lie, they would like, go to jail or something right lol
>>51783805
odac is garbage
>>51783815
yeah man literal trash now haha
there is nothing that can compete with something there are no stats for
i bet it's even impossible to replicate it's sound, pretty much magical. expensive devices are magic
>>51783827
it was trash when it came out too lol only nwavguy minions who havent heard good stuff think its good
this shit is getting out of hand when u have retards like linustechtips and tek syndicate doing 'buying guides' for audio and reviewing this crappy gear
>>51783840
yeah dude fuck science and shit it doesnt even make sense, hes so dumb with his dumb cult, theres no way it would compete with my 2k dac, otherwise i wouldnt have spent my money on it. mine is the best forever because it's what i spent my money on you know
>>51783805
No plug everything into ur Realtek no difference lifelike fidelity guaranteed. Trash that fukin oshit. NwAVguy was a JDS shill all along.
>>51783863
exactly dude thats what im saying
Is there a way I can measure the FR of my own headphones?
what DAP do you guys have? My iPod and headpgones were stolen while I was taking a shower at the gym.
I don't have anything but phones to play music now, was thinking of using my old Note 2 for music but if there's a cheap, better solution, I'm up for that
What does /hpg/ think about B&W P5?
Knew this by chance from foobar2000 mobile's video advertisement and I can't get this out of my mind.
>>51784090
Beats for the "classy and professional" adult. Sold at the Apple store if you need to know the market better.
>>51784225
>priced at 299$ in apple store
Ouch.
I'll just stick with my m50 then.
I thought it would be cheaper.
>>51784726
jesus youre fucking dumb
>>51782612
closed headphones have a tighter bass so proll the 770 pros
Hey guys, quick question.
Are these any good??
I could buy them for dirt cheap,
so price is no problem
IM04 or SE535?
Both have exactly the same price.
>>51782612
770
Why do people buy any other beyer?
>>51785694
cause 880 are better plen
![Wholesale-Free-Shipping-Matrix-Quattro-DAC[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/U1cIRBj.jpg "Wholesale-Free-Shipping-Matrix-Quattro-DAC[1].jpg")
how did i only just spot this benchmark clone
getting pretty interested in orthos, any recs? considering trying out lcd-2s or some hifimans
>>51783550
I'd like to think regulars here have a decent understanding of what matters in sound quality during listening. FLAC stream is rather retarded.
>>51786004
My recommendation is to wait or stay away from them unless you're really passionate about headphones. Most orthodynamics are heavy as shit and expensive; the newer ones are less heavy but even more expensive. They're a very imperfect headphone technology, most models just happen to sound really good.
If you're still interested though, I've owned/listened to the HE-400/500/6 and the LCD-2/3.
The 400 is relatively cheap and lets you experience the ortho sound, not a bad suggestion. The LCD-2 is pretty good, it's coherent and has the ortho thickness and bass. You can say goodbye to your trebles though. LCD-3 is the same thing but better all around and 2x the price. HE-500 was similar to the LCD-2 iirc, can't really remember too well. I think it was a bit more neutral/opened up and had a warmer tone. I like the HE-6 but it's nothing like the typical ortho sound, if anything it sounds like an electrostat. Also amping is pretty retarded with it.
People like the ether too but I've never heard it.
Try the HE-400 if you wanna save money. If you got some to spend, then try LCD-2 (or the HE-500 if you can't handle a dark signature). If you don't like them then try the HE-6 but then you probably don't even like orthos lol
>>51784000
Yes. Build an ear simulator and a measurement mic. Your line in can act as your input.
>>51786264
thx d00d. i've read that the 400s are sibilant, i can't deal with sibilance. i'll probably get the lcd-2s or the he-500s based on the deals i can find.
>>51786398
*buy a measurement mic
>>51786264
>My recommendation
>I've owned/listened to
>the ortho sound
>it's coherent
>the ortho thickness
>your trebles
>the typical ortho sound
>lol
>>51786870
nice lol
>>51786264
It's planar magnetic and there is no such thing as "planar sound". HE-400 is garbage that should be avoided. Stop with the meaningless subjective buzzwords which have no correlation to anything happening with the sound.
>>51787189
Okay Tyll, I know the correct term is planar magnetic. Who the fuck cares if a term is easily recognizable? It's a casual environment.
Use your head, obviously there's no "planar sound" considering what I said about the HE-6. There is however a popular attribution of a planar-based signature, false or not, and I figured it's what the other guy was looking for. You're actually stupid, there's nothing wrong with a nondisabled person with normal, functioning ears using recognizable terms for how something sounds. Do you also reject color, textures and taste because they're subjective? Pseudointellectual retard lel
just got these bad boys
loving the openess, I only used closed ones before. I think I stick with these and sell my dt770
>>51787621
Hello Lance!
After getting some gud phones and IEMs I'm thinking of signing up for the Spotify again at $10 for 3 months deal. Yet, I worry about the sound quality of the files versus my trusty FLACs. They only offer 320 mp3 at the highest, but users have reported that not all files are that bitrate.
Will I get bottlenecked?
>>51788015
I don't know about spotify. But I'm hearing good things about apple music. And the bottleneck is usually on your ear.
>>51788015
320 is transparent.
>>51788015
>he thinks there's an audible difference between 320 and FLAC
>>51788015
http://wiki.hydrogenaud.io/index.php?title=Transparency
>>51788015
I tried the Spotify premium account for free, but I didn't notice any difference between the premium 320 k ogg and the standard 160k ogg. Spotify library is also quite limited, then I wouldn't recommend to get a premium account unless you absolutely can't bear ads playing from time to time. One more thing: Flac are vastly superior.
>>51788059
>>51788103
>Thinks lossy == transparent
>>51788015
>Will I get bottlenecked
That's not how that works.
The coding artifacts are presented in a very different manner than the faults that exist in stereo headphones and speakers.
>>51788163
English, please. Also, spotify is known to prefer brickwalled versions of files, aren't they?
>>51788186
To add on to this...they say Tidal is the audophiles choice since they use higher quality files. Is this true or is this B.S.?
When I fall asleep
Which part of me writes the dream and which part falls asleep
Who's running the machine
Template:
>Budget
$250
>Location
States
>Source
Computer (willing to get a sound card)
>Preferred type of headphones
Full-size
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Very high, will sometimes wear for 10+ hrs
>Preferred music
Alternative, jazz, orchestra, and good for gaming
>Past headphones
Razor Tiamat and Samsung level over
>>51788207
there is no you
there is only me
you are the machine
i'm the only one who has agency
>>51788337
Wrong, you got that completely backwards.
>>51782054
Bose ae2. super comfy and closed. not the best sound for the money admittedly though. cable and earpads can be changed easily which makes them last much longer too.
>>51783326
Etymotic ER-4S
>>51788186
MP3 defects aren't the same as what headphones do.
Spotify, not necessarily.
Tidal uses lossless, doesn't make it better enough if the production is the same.
>>51788015
see
>>51788059
>>51788163
Spotify offers Vorbis at 320 kbps. It's beyond transparent meaning it isn't any different from FLAC audibly. I've been using Spotify almost every day since its release and had the Premium subscription on. It's a really good service imo.
As for the bottleneck, no. Assuming the encoder used a lossy file was low bitrate/low quality and was not audibly transparent like the 320kbps Vorbis is, you could easily hear this with modest gear. Bottleneck is a wrong way to look at it. Artifacts from lossy encoders are audible on almost all gear because they are different from the inaccuracies sound reproduction equipment has.
>>51788202
Tidal allows you to stream lossless if you pay for the highest subscription. That does not sound any different from what Spotify offers. Only thing which can make a difference between the services in terms of sound is the possibility of them storing a different master of the same song. Here we'd need to see some data to see if one has a better master than the other.
Lossless streaming makes no sense really. Tidal is alright otherwise. They also offer a sensible and cheaper plan for lossy streaming.
>>51788827
>Tidal allows you to stream lossless if you pay for the highest subscription. That does not sound any different from what Spotify offers.
>lossy == lossless
*Citation Needed
Should my headphones be loud in the 2-10 volume mixer range? They're plugged directly into my motherboard's front headphone out.
>>51788959
Already given in the thread and you could literally look up for tens of codec listening tests to find at what bitrate codecs of each type get transparent.
http://wiki.hydrogenaud.io/index.php?title=Transparency
Or better yet, just do the fucking ABX yourself. Encode your lossless file into a lossy one and use the Foobar2000 addon to test if you can hear a difference.
>>51788989
Which headphones? IEMs?
>>51788989
If theyre easy to drive, the would be, but generally they sound worse from the card. But it doesn't really matter if youre headphones are sub dt880 or hd650 for example
>>51788989
>>51789003
NVX XPT 100
>>51788990
>Or better yet, just do the fucking ABX yourself. Encode your lossless file into a lossy one and use the Foobar2000 addon to test if you can hear a difference.
Let's say I do this...how can I publish my results here and not have "hurrrrr" tampered-with-results retardation?
Anybody done the philips golden ears challenge? I dont think it matters for me since I can't hear sounds above 16.9khz anyway (though my shitty 598s)
>>51789065
You don't need to publish the results. Keep them to yourself.
>>51789089
When I do that and pass the test, no one will believe me and we'll start this all over again. How do I publish my results ?
>>51789120
You copypaste the log you get when you're done.
>Budget
$125 - $175 AUD Flexible
>Location
Australia
>Source
Lumia 830, Laptop and PC
>Preferred type of headphone
Full Sized
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
High
>Preferred tonal balance
wtf does this even mean nerd *high fives chad*
>Preferred music
Chill Indie, Podcasts, Chillstep
>Past headphones
$50 sony ones, fairly comfy, and some shitty overpriced JVC ones.
>>51789138
Seems like would be very easy to fake but alright.
>>51789013
>vague meaningless categorization of fidelity with two products
>listing two headphones of entirely different levels of fidelity
>implying product lineup has any correlation to the ability of an on-board codec to drive headphones
>youre
fuck man
>>51789065
Let's say you do this, you should just post it to Hydrogenaud.io as nobody has been able to ABX 160kbps Opus or mp3 v0 from a lossless in any test I've ever seen. With the exception of cases where the audio sample was specifically designed to "break" the codec. It would be a groundbreaking result anon and give the codec makers some food of thought with the improvements assuming the bitrate and encoders used were higher than what were previously considered as a threshold of audible transparency.
In the near impossible case you actually do it, post the files and the log file from ABX so we can verify the md5 checksum of the files used in the test and the files you post. Also post the encoder you used to create the lossy files.Old mp3 encoders for example will sounds like ass no matter what and same goes for Vorbis. If you do that, nobody can call you out from "tampering" the results and everyone else can just try it out for themselves. Peoples' ability to spot compression artifacts varies greatly as many people are not familiar at all on the sounds they should be looking for. I know I'm pretty terrible at codec listening so for me most stuff gets transparent well below the bitrates I listed there. Codec listening is also very fatiguing to do properly. 16 try ABX is all I can muster in one go and that's just one file.
>>51789270
>With the exception of cases where the audio sample was specifically designed to "break" the codec
Tell me more about this.
>>51789083
Nvm, I had them on too low volme, still heard sound at 20050hz...
>>51789322
Sounds like distortion senpai. 20khz is a kind of stuff baby can hear.
>>51781898
Can you stop posting pedo images for these threads?
I want to be able to browse /g/ without being called a pedophile at least once.
So, if I bought a soundcard like the Creative Sound Blaster Z for my PC, I wouldn't need an external amp? It'd be good enough to drive most headphones?
I just want all of my headphones to go louder than they currently can on my PC and get the most out of them.
What I'm saying is, should I buy a soundcard and a DAC like Modi? Or just get a Magni and Modi?
>>51789270
Stfu retard, I was answering it in layman terms to a layman. Entirely different fidelity? Theyre in the same class.
>>51789381
SB amp has way too much output impedance and is low quality in general. Better get an ODAC.
>>51789381
the sound card is fine, hell, I can drive my speakers directly off my sound card and they get pretty loud.
You don't need an amp.
What do you think a sound card is?
A sound card is a fucking DAC mounted to a card, then you put it inside your computer.
>>51789339
No lol, its was a definitive extremely thin, sharp high pitch and I ramped up to it so it was defnitively there but very quiet.
>>51789425
>SB has way too much output impedance
source?
>>51789466
specs, HeadFi
>>51789297
There's a good selection of "problem samples" on LAME's(mp3 encoder) website which are known to be hard for the encoder to reproduce accurately.
http://lame.sourceforge.net/quality.php
Encoders vary quite a lot. Some do better than others in different kinds of samples.
>>51789399
Layman terms are fine as long as you are accurate with them and the analogies are correct. In your post they aren't. "Same class" is vague as fuck. What class? HD 600 is considerably more accurate headphone compared to DT880. They are often compared into each other because both have been on the market for a long time and both are relatively close in price. They are both open back, circumaural dynamic headphones. They don't specify any "class" other than the type of headphone they are and that has nothing to do with how they sound.
>>51789430
How much did you have to amplify the volume to hear it?
>>51789425
ODAC has an output impedance of like 200 Ohms. It's NOT suitable for driving a load and it was never designed for that.
>>51789535
Well a lot more than I would dare to listen to music, and it wasn't noise, noise was at a lot lower frequency
>>51789477
You gonna link it?
>headfi
![hyperx-cloud-headset-preto_hyperx_cloud_headset_hr_10_07_2014-15_37-100532875-orig[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/BuVp3Io.jpg "hyperx-cloud-headset-preto_hyperx_cloud_headset_hr_10_07_2014-15_37-100532875-orig[1].jpg")
i know people will go full rage because of "gaming" headset and >headset in particular
but can somebody please tell me the whats the difference between these two headsets?
KHX-H3CL/WR HyperX Cloud and Kingston KHX-HSCC-ER HyperX Cloud Core.
i've read somewhere that KHX-H3CL have more features but i cant find it anywhere what features exactly? should i make a thread for that question or can i get answer here? thanks in advance
>>51789720
Takstar 2050 is the same headphone for 50$
>>51789741
does it have microphone? i know sound is better for headphones because it doesnt have mic on it. but i just fucking hate it when i need to have separate mic
>>51789718
just search for it
>>51789535
>ODAC has an output impedance of like 200 Ohms. It's NOT suitable for driving a load and it was never designed for that.
are you trying?
After two months of use, the left speaker in my Fidelio X2s stopped working. Quality product.
Gonna send it back to Amazon.
Anybody have a suggestion for an alternative headphone? I liked their sound. So a headphone with similar sound would be okay. Might be nice if it were a bit lighter though.
>>51789830
>>51789889
DT 990
>>51789893
output impedance comes only from the amplifier mate. Are you done?
>>51789903
Thx for the suggestion but I'd like one with a detachable cable.
Also, aren't the Beyerdynamics headphones very V-shaped in their sound?
>>51789889
K702 or K7XX
>>51789830
You were talking about ODAC. That's O2's specs. ODAC has by default a 3,5mm stereo jack output and it has resistors in the output giving it an output impedance of at least 220 Ohms. It wouldn't be the first time I would have seen someone recommending or even getting an ODAC for driving their headphones.
>>51789992
Not K 712?
K 7XX are almost impossible to get here in Germany.
>>51788659
Shitty ear dildos
>>51789889
Shitty luck m8. Just don't go sennheiser.
>>51790063
I wouldn't recommend you any AKG but stay away from K712
>>51790063
K712 is colored garbage just look at its frequency response charts, its shit. If you cant get a K7XX in germany you might want to look into the K702, they sound mostly the same just the K7XX is more comfortable and slightly cheaper.
>>51789772
Zalman has one for under 10 bucks which sounds great compared to any headphone mic.
>>51788296
DT250 80 ohm.
>>51790073
Better than your IEMs.
>>51790144
Shitty ear dildos
Has anyone tried putting the AKG velour gel pads on the K612 Pro?
The earpads on my 612 are old and don't really pad anymore. When I put them on my ears touch the mesh inside the cups.
I'm thinking of getting the velour gel pads but they're 50€ a piece and I'm not sure if they change the sound of my headphone.
>>51785781
How, retard?
They pretty much have the same response except the 770 has better bass extension
>>51789810
Just link me
Give one reason to buy any headphones past the HD600/650's?
>Protip: You can't
Everything past those are just placebo and a waste of neetbux. That extra money mommy's giving you for Christmas could be spent for something useful, like an Ona Hole and a body pillow.
>>51790610
>Everything past those are just placebo
>placebo
Not a term to describe headphones/speakers.
>>51790610
hd600 is trash tier
>>51790610
> HD600/650
You mistyped Fidelio X2
>>51790610
Just one reason? I can give you 4.
>better sound quality
>better channel matching
>better build quality
>better comfort
>Buy Koss Qz99
>Treble cannon
>Bass is in negatives, not even flat, just in negatives
>Buy no brand plastic Chinese cheapo headphones
>good treble, good bass
Why is Koss so shit?
i have a friend who can give me his hd600 for $150 but I dont have an amp. should i get the headphones anyway? my currently ones are nonames
>>51790879
>i have a friend who can give me his hd600 for $150 but I dont have an amp. should i get the headphones anyway? my currently ones are nonames
No, the HD600 are bad even at that price. And they require an amp.
>>51790610
>if I haven't tried it, it's bad
>if I can't afford it, it's bad
>actually I'll call it a 'placebo' to try to sound like I know what I'm talking about
>>51790879
Don't listen to the retard, the HD600 isn't the best headphone in the world but $150 is a steal. You'll think they're amazing unless you've tried $800+ headphones. An amp will help a lot.
>>51790610
There is no reason to, HD600 is the summit of headphone fidelity.
>>51790879
Most realtek outputs can power it just fine, it's quite efficient.
>>51790879
That's an insane deal m8. Get them.
>>51790879
Buy them then sell them on ebay for twice that and get Fidelio X2s.
>>51791057
>Fidelio X2
G A R B A G E
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>>51791057
Buy 2 of them
Sell them both. Now you have 2 fidelio x2's
>>51791021
> efficient
> 102 dB/V
Sennheiser must pay you a lot for telling such evident bullshits
>>51791057
Absolutely this
>>51791080
Not the person but they can be driven pretty loud from many on-board codecs. For 150 you could buy the headphones and O2 and still be in for a damn good deal.
>>51791127
> loudness = sound quality
Here we go again
>>51791080
Thanks for proving me right.
>>51790610
I own the hd600 and have listened to some of the best headphones from Audeze, stax, Mr. Speakers, Hifiman, grado and trust me, they are much much better.
>>51791153
What?
>>51791153
Would you like some cable risers with that post?
>>51790879
Wow, fuck, buy them immediately
>>51791166
lol no you haven't, you don't need to lie online
>>51791185
kek
>>51791196
I'm not him but I share the same opinion.
The best headphone I've heard is the Etymotic ER-4S but I found the HD600 to sound better than LCD-2, LCD-3, SR-507, SR-407, SR-207, HE-500, HE-6, HE-400i, HE-400S, HE-560, HE-400 and any Grado.
>>51791185
>>51791171
If they sound loud enough to your ears, it doesn't mean that they sound good. You think they sound loud enough because just the volume of the mid is high, whereas the treble and bass are just sucked out.
>>51791166
>>51791233
no one cares about your opinions
>>51791233
>>51791196
>>51791253
Kek
>being such faggots
>>51791254
Yeah, I prefer high fidelity headphones.
In fact, I don't even own a HD600.
>Budget
£220
>Location
Look at my currency senpai
>Source
PC, soon to be a home built tube amp
>Preferred type of headphone
Circumaural
>Open or closed
Don't mind, I will use exclusively at my desktop
>Comfort level
Comfy
>Preferred tonal balance
Neutral
>Preferred music
Rock, post-hardcore, metal etc
>Past headphones
AKG K451 (at end of life, drivers are dying)
MDR-V55 (headband broke)
>>51791358
Fidelio x2
AKG K7XX
>>51791252
Why would the bass and treble be affected in a different manner than mids? Where do you even draw the line between these categories?
Output impedance, noise and distortion are practically the three main things which could cause something audible and lower fidelity. I fail to see how any of them could become an issue while driving a high impedance load like HD 600.
>If they sound loud enough to your ears, it doesn't mean that they sound good.
Of course loudness is not synonymous to good and nobody said that. Good could mean either subjectively enjoyable sound or accurate and those tend to go hand in hand within tolerances of the FR.
>>51791394
Output impedance, noise and distortion of the output*
what are your thoughts on the akg k545 ? Thinking about ordering it
Hey /hpg/
I'm stuck between getting an Audio Technica M50x or a Sony MDR-7506.
Already ordered a Fiio E10K but I just can't decide which pair of cans to get.
First time buyer for slightly higher end headphones.
>>51790144
Any sound card advice to go with it? Thanks!
>>51791642
why'd you waste your money on an e10k
>>51791671
because i've wanted one for a while now and my headphone jack on my computer is a little fucked
>>51791415
its good but the k553 pro is better if your from burgerland
>>51791697
not from burgerland, and it seems to be unavailable to my local amazon.
>>51791642
Go with the Sony because it's more accurate and has better comfort.
>>51791642
K7xx
>>51791729
then go for the k545
>>51791642
7506, M50x's are shit. Sound like tin cans and nigga bass. 7506 doesn't have recessed mids and an amp helps bring out the bass without being overpowering like M50x's.
The only people who recommend the M50's are those whose only headphone background consist of $15 earbuds and Beats by Dr Gay.
Baby's first "audiophile" headphones and they're shit at that, literally memephones.
>>51791734
i've got small ears so the small pads on the M50x wont bother me that much (which is what i've seen to be the main complaint about them.)
>>51791743
thanks m8, will do
>>51791748
what would you recommend then instead of shitposting like a retard
>>51791748
>amp
>7506
lol
>>51791415
Pad/leak issues beware. Both K550 design and the smaller k545 have sealing problems, resulting in a loss of isolation and bass.
Some people modify them to avoid that.
>>51782124
Why over the ear? Do you need portability?
If you dont then i suggest getting full size just because youll have a lor more selection
>>51791749
My main complaint with them(aside from the sound) was the headband which hurt the top of my head after a while. The pads surrounded my small-ish ears decently well and I never had discomfort because of the clamp some people report.
>>51791748
>and an amp helps bring out the bass
It doesn't. What the fuck. Are you this guy, too:
>>51791252
>>51786264
>>51787345
?
I want you Head-Fi -tier broscientists to leave.
>>51791767
I just told you nigger, 7506.
But go ahead and buy your memeshit headphones, enjoy your niggerbass.
>>51791772
Yeah, they don't need one, but there is a difference.
>>51791844
>but there is a difference.
"""""no"""""
>Total: 8/16
>Probability that you were guessing: 59.8%
What do they mean by this?
>>51791876
Means you couldn't tell one from the other. Results beyond 15/16 starts to have some statistical significance.
>>51791844
my bad, missed the comma
>>51791894
How are you drawing that conclusion from 8/16? If I couldnt tell one from the other, it would be statistically far lower than that.
>>51791934
you have a 50% chance of guessing it right, if you could tell the difference you could surely get a more consistent result
>>51791934
Are you retarded or merely pretending?
Best Headphones under 150€?
>>51791981
HD 558
>>51791981
Philips SHP 9500
>>51791988
>>51791990
are you shills paid to shitpost and spread lies every single day?
>>51792027
ill answer when you explain how did that have anything to do with shilling
>>51792034
when you recommend the same shitty headphones everyday no matter what knowing full well it's not true.
are you the shitposter that recommended the memeheiser's? why do you do it everyday?
the phillip's aren't bad though.
>>51792086
i don't see a better performing option under that price point. philips is not one and it's discontinued.
>>51792027
>are you shills paid to shitpost and spread lies every single day?
answer: no
i never shill.
anyone still here?
>>51792161
i am here with you anon
>>51792167
I guess we are the last ones...
So long and thanks for all the fish
>>51792213
Testing, can I still post?
How many others are left?
>>51792228
im
>>51792213
I think everyone else still cant connect at the moment
THANKS HIROYUKI
>>51792228
Yes you can still post
I'm
>>51792161
and
>>51792213
It's down for an hour already and there are no updates whatsoever.
I wonder what is happening...
>>51792161
Did this shit yesterday too.
>>51792261
hiroyuki is probably shutting 4chan down
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojydNb3Lrrs
>>51792261
The people shilling for the HD600 by saying that they don't need an amp are simply too agressive, then everyone fled away.
>>51792272
it's all ogre
O G R E
G
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looks like shit's back up, boys
>>51792272
I guess our predictions became true...
Where is moot, when you need him?
