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is windows 10 really a botnet?
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is windows 10 really a botnet?
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>>55528061
Microsoft is part of NSA's mass surveillance program "PRISM":
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PRISM_(surveillance_program)

Microsoft informs the NSA about bugs before fixing them:
https://archive.is/OBGB1

Microsoft openly offeres cloud data to support PRISM:
https://archive.is/tW6fu

Microsoft has backdoored its disk encryption:
https://archive.is/2XIvX
https://archive.is/qLRZx

Windows snoops on the users' files, text input, voice input,
location, contacts, calendar records and web browsing history,
even after related settings are turned off:
https://archive.is/thsGd
https://archive.is/sz1nt
https://archive.is/g3QdQ
https://archive.is/ko469
https://archive.is/l6pmO
https://archive.is/zK93U

Micrcrosoft automatically downloads Windows 10 on PCs running
Windows 7 or Windows 8.1 (between 3.5GB and 6GB), even if
users have not opted-in:
http://archive.is/CEvKh

Windows 10 scans for illegal/pirated software:
https://archive.is/vhjwm
https://archive.is/2jehd
https://archive.is/KQsBh

Microsoft proudly presents surveillance statistics:
https://archive.is/MB0Yy

> Over 82 billion photos viewed.
> Gamers spent over 4 billion hours playing PC games.
> 44.5 billion minutes/month spent in Microsoft Edge.
> Over 2.5 billion questions asked of Cortana since launch.
> Windows 10 now active on over 200 million devices.
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>>55528080
holy sh*t you type fast!
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>>55528061
Kiss X Sis was fucking great, although them MC was a little bitch for both not smashing his sisters and the teacher/her sister, as well as the big titty classmate
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>>55528127
>I also masturbated to this anime.
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>>55528061
yes, anon, it really is.
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>>55528127
Have you read the manga desu? Keita actually begins to date his teacher Kiryuu Sensei. KissxSis is great, I'm just sad the OVA ended so abruptly.
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Now I want peaches...
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>>55528061
Man...
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>>55528061
Is *bait* *bait* really a *spam*
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>>55528581
Six different right click menus?
Wow I'm sure triggered now!
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>>55528094
Copy
Pasta
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>>55529179
idiot
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Most likley
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>>55528325
>the manga
man in the beginning that shit made me constantly hard, now it leaves my dick sad and dissapointed with all the shit going on
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>>55528061
Yes.

An OS that sues you for the torrents you downloaded IS a spyware
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>>55528080

Steam knows how many hours I played games for too.

My isp knows if I downloaded pirated software too.

Prism will be shut down in a few years.

Anyone remember when people used to say all this shit about windows 7 and now people are adamant that they don't want to change from it.
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>>55528061

Anyone can recreate this for themselves:

Fresh install of Windows 10.
Set all privacy options to off, disable cortana, disable web search
Ensure all updates are done. Close all programs.
Install Fiddler, and enable HTTPS sniffing. (If you use wireshark, you wont be able to view the HTTPS)
Press stream in fiddler.
Click the windows search bar, type any letter, watch the HTTPS session to bing.com appear.

Im still trying to figure out exactly what it is that it is transmitting, but its for sure sending a user-agent string that identifies itself as Cortana.

Some observed behaviors:

Clicking on a link from an application (in this case, a download link from within Fiddler) submits the URL you are visiting to urs.microsoft.com.

Opening applications-- even with SmartScreen disabled-- opens sessions to apprep.smartscreen.microsoft.com and, among other things, submits the hash of the application

Typing anything into the search bar will, regardless of settings, initiate an HTTPS session to www.bing.com. It will transmit a cookie, though so far I have not seen anything in there that looks like keystroke monitoring, as the only thing that appears to change between attempts is an HV section of the cookie. It appears to be downloading javascript, and submitting identifying data (screen resolution, install date, SID). The URL it uses is https://www.bing.com/manifest/threshold.appcache
Opening the settings app and going into account options sometimes opens a session to public-family.api.account.microsoft.com:443. I suppose this would be expected.

Id be interested if anyone else can find other "unexpected" network behavior, but figured this would be a good start. It confirms some things that were perhaps expected and some that were not. It should be noted that these behaviors were seen even after running a few of the other "disable telemetry service" tools out there.
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>>55529903
basically.... it sends stuff that normally gets collected when you visit a site with some kind of metrics gathering scripts?
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>>55529935
select sites =/= your whole os
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>>55528080
Isn't a lot of this stuff actually from the Windows 10 "technical preview" WHICH WAS RELEASED SPECIFICALLY TO ACQUIRE USAGE DATA? The whole point of that was beta testing to acquire usage statistics, you're not supposed to use the TP for normal computing or anything that involves sensitive information.
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>>55529967
Most of it is, however other aspects are applicable if you use any of their "cloud" services. For example OneDrive scans images and files.
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Is windows7 safe from any of this? I have the update service disabled by default, and I've yet to see it try to update to 10.

I know I should just switch to loonux, but I'm too lazy.
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>>55530032
That's hardly surprising. You shouldn't assume anything you upload is private, no matter what service you're using.
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>>55528061
What anime is that from?
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>>55530287
boku no imouto's chinpo
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>>55528061
>>55528080
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAA1xgTTw9w
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>cmon guys, thinking that young, blossoming, pure girls are sexually attractive is GROSS ewwww
/cuck general/ ?
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>>55529935
>Opening applications-- even with SmartScreen disabled-- opens sessions to apprep.smartscreen.microsoft.com and, among other things, submits the hash of the application
>ATTENTION USER: ISOBURNER.EXE IS PROHIBITED SOFTWARE USED FOR COMPUTER FORENSICS, REMOVING WINDOWS, AND SOFTWARE THEFT
>THIS SOFTWARE WILL BE REMOVED TO PREVENT ILLEGAL ACTIVITY AND HARM TO YOUR COMPUTER
>THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMPLIANCE
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>>55530093
Windows 7 doesn't make any unsolicited connections to the Internet. When you connect to a network it pings an address to determine whether or not it shows the warning symbol over the network status icon. If you turn on Windows update it will periodically check for updates. Turn that off and it will never contact Microsoft. If you want you can even prevent it from pinging the address it uses to check Internet connectivity.

Windows 7 is the last non-botnet Microsoft OS.
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>>55528061
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>>55530449
>submits the hash of the application
oh geez not the hash
whatever will I do when they use that to positively ID the software I'm running?

Oh, wait. Entropy.
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>>55530469
http://windows7sins.org/
Windows 7 makes implicitly solicited connections to the Internet.
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>>55529819
This. this is the same thing that all the XP fags touted look where they are now.
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>>55529819
The difference being that Steam and your ISP are corporate entities that you do not own. You own your computer (I hope) and having the same kind of tracking on your property is not the same as using a service that inherently tracks its users.
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>>55530385
Difference of opinion, they are brain washed into liking old hags, finished and used products. Slim is more attractive because of power but also the cuteness factor. I like to see an older women wear a dress with frills and look good in it. Most who do look like trashy wanna be whores, cheap imitations. Porn has brain washed them too, into liking dumb bimbo sluts, lack of taste and inability to form you own opinion.
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>>55528061
Yes, yes it is.
>Accepts remote instructions that you don't authorize.
>Transmits data without your authorization.

Yep, it's pretty botnet if you ask me.


>>55529819
>Prism will be shut down in a few years.
No, no it won't be. If it is, it'll be fucking replaced by something even worse.
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>>55528061
Sauce.
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>>55530500
stupidest post in this thread. Entropy of a long enough hash is enough that it is virtually guaranteed to be unique
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>>55530976
and by long enough I don't mean hurr durr send the whole program as a hash, I mean the size of a github commit hash
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Yeah it's all botnet, just install TempleOS.
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>>55530287
KissXSis
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>using OS that you didn't make yourself
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>>55532118
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>>55532206
This. Running Akrin~~ 2.8 atm
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look pedo, society is a botnet so fuck you and your little girl anime.
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Yes it is. You can avoud some of it. But it is a great OS and everything works and it looks good. Plus not very heavy on resources.

I also enjoy linux so inb4 sindia shill ect
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>>55532261
Nice meme idea, but it should be a C64 computer.
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>>55528061
>mfw pussboi mc never plowed anyone
still masturbated to every ep desu
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>>55532394
>OS not found. Press any key to restart.
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>>55533191
Didn't he fuck the teacher?
Keep in mind I only watched the anime, and I barely recall any events, it's been years.
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>>55532183
Thanks anon
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Microsoft™ uses telemetry and tracking/statistics to ultimately help improve the user experience.
Also to further diversify revenue.

Windows™ 10 has more security, support and privacy than all the other operating systems right now.
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Of course it is you dumb makiposter.
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>>55529819
Yes we need vista
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>>55528080
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>>55530032
Right but that doesn't mean that windows 10 is botnet.

And it isn't cataloging anything when it scans, just comparing it digitally to a known list of bad pictures. MS has a legal duty to not host CP
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This
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That
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>>55537086
How is that supposed to prove anything? No name, no source.
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>>55528061
no more than google, facebook, twitter, youtube.

less so since you can disable the shit you don't like.

the average person puts more botnet into their facebooks.
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>>55528061
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>>55528061
Yes it is

>2016
>Asking whether spyware 10 is botnet
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>>55537086
Nice try Pajeet.
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Can you play pirated game on Win 10?
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>>55537859
Unless you plan to pirate anything from Windows store or on xbox, sure. They won't stop you. They just lazily copied the EULA from those two.
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>>55537364
KIMARHI HORNLESS HORNLESS
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>>55528061
Yes, it really is.
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