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double left mouse clicks to open a folder/file doesn't work on my deepin. what do?
it works on the thinkpad's left click thingy though.
How do I get rid of the screen in the beginning that asks me to boot to windows or puppy? I don't even have windows installed so I absolutely hate this screen.
>>55044531
that screen is the bootloader GRUB. I don't know if it's even possible to remove it, but it's generally a good idea to keep it in case you have trouble booting.
Instead of removing it you can edit the file /etc/default/grub with superuser priviledges and change the value of GRUB_TIMEOUT to 0. Afterwards you need to update GRUB, in Ubuntu I believe the command is "sudo update-grub", in Fedora it is "sudo grub2-mkconfig -o /boot/grub2/grub.cfg". Better search for instructions for your specific distro if you are not sure.
>>55044531
>>55044699
I'm silly, puppy linux is still based on Ubuntu if I'm not mistaken, so you can safely try "sudo update-grub". Only if that doesn't work you need to use another command (sometimes it's sudo grub-mkconfig instead of grub2-mkconfig and grub is sometimes in /boot/grub/ instead of /boot/grub2/
For the folks running Debian Stable (if there are any of you)
Have you managed to backport mpv's Sid version?
I use Sid on my own machine, but I have my dad running Stable so things are safer for him.
I tried following the instructions on the Debian wiki but just ended up hitting a wall with missing dependencies.
>>55043504
That makes absolutely no sense.
Install them and use the tools provided by them to configure it. Why do you need another abstraction tool which would launch the settings tools for each component?
>>55044484
>>55043750
>>55044676
alright I have 16.0 up and running with the 390x. Which order should I do this in not to screw myself. I need to install the 980ti propietary drivers blacklist the open source nvidia driver properly. Noeveu or something tis called. And blacklist the 390x card. Which order will stop me from breaking the previous cards drivers without the new cards driver being ready.
Also anyone know what the nvidia ppa is? Googling now but you never know with these sometimes the new driver has issues and the old one is better.
Having a bit of difficulty trying to install Xubuntu onto a partition alongside OS X. I created a 60GB FAT partition beforehand. On the install window from the Xubuntu CD, it appears to install just fine. But booting into it just produces a black screen. What could be wrong. Should it be formatted with something other than FAT?
>>55044749
to clarify, this is the output of debuild -uc -usfrancisco@FranciscoTP:~/mpv-0.14.0$ debuild -uc -us
dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -D -us -uc
dpkg-buildpackage: source package mpv
dpkg-buildpackage: source version 0.14.0-1~bpo80+1
dpkg-buildpackage: source distribution jessie-backports
dpkg-buildpackage: source changed by Francisco Vargas <[email protected]>
dpkg-source --before-build mpv-0.14.0
dpkg-buildpackage: host architecture amd64
dpkg-checkbuilddeps: Unmet build dependencies: libasound2-dev libass-dev (>= 0.12.1~) libavcodec-dev (>= 7:2.4~) libavdevice-dev (>= 7:2.4~) libavfilter-dev (>= 7:2.4~) libavformat-dev (>= 7:2.4~) libavresample-dev (>= 7:2.4~) libavutil-dev (>= 7:2.4~) libbluray-dev libcdio-paranoia-dev libdvdnav-dev libdvdread-dev libegl1-mesa-dev libenca-dev libgl1-mesa-dev libguess-dev libjack-dev libjpeg-dev liblcms2-dev (>= 2.6~) liblua5.2-dev libpulse-dev librubberband-dev libsdl2-dev libsndio-dev (>= 1.0.1) libswscale-dev (>= 7:2.4~) libva-dev libvdpau-dev libwayland-dev libx11-dev libxinerama-dev libxkbcommon-dev libxrandr-dev libxss-dev libxv-dev
dpkg-buildpackage: warning: build dependencies/conflicts unsatisfied; aborting
dpkg-buildpackage: warning: (Use -d flag to override.)
debuild: fatal error at line 1376:
dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -D -us -uc failed
Was following these instructions:
https://wiki.debian.org/SimpleBackportCreation
http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=123197
>>55044484
Is there a way to create your own live ISO based on your current install? I'd like to be able to plug in a live USB and have things like gparted and nemo installed by default.
>>55044837
>>55044749
And when trying to satisfy those dependencies, it requires loads of packages at newer version than those featured in Stable
Does that mean I'm going to have to install backports for each of them, or have I got it wrong somewhere?
Thanks for your time
>>55044741
Installed watching a tutorial. I don't know much but I typed in the sudo ... and it said command not recognized.
Anyways I managed to open menu.lst in vi. Here's a screenshot.
Got info from this link: murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=45207
>>55044822
yes, use ext4.
>>55045001
ah, you are using Slacko Puppy, which is based on Slackware, not Ubuntu.
If the method you are using works for you, then good. Did that file have a warning at the beginning รก la# DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE
?
Because if it had, I hope you've made a backup, and you should have used the other method I've suggested: edit /etc/default/grub, then run grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg
in any case, if it works then it works.
I've dual booted Ubuntu 16.04 with Windows 8. It's taking me 30 minutes to delete 3000 files from the Windows partition while in Ubuntu. Is it supposed to be that slow?
>>55045093
Nope no wwarning.
I understand what you're saying. The default timer is like 15 seconds until it boots to puppy anyways. You are saying make it to 0.
If this is the case I agree this is a good step to take for my problem.
Anyways, I have so far searched for grub i cannot find it. It's not in etc default, or boot.
>>55044803
Well I got the drivers from the nvidia website and them tried to install them but they do not want to be installed when the gpu is not actually in the machine.
Going to try blacklisting Noveneu or whatever the open source driver is called then doing it again.
Is there a way to remove all packages that are not being depended upon by any other package, but that at the same time are not for human use?
For example, having it delete a bunch of packages that are not needed, but NOT delete, for example mpv (which no one depends on, but is usable for humans)
Maybe my question is a bit naive. Sorry, I'm new.
>>55045198
Alright I blacklisted the open source ones and restarted then added the ppa and installed from there. Might restart and try it with the 980ti installed now see what happens but I wonder if I should blacklist the 390x first.
>>55045093
>>55044699
>>55044741
Thx forbyour help.
I found my answer from the link.
Menu.lst has the timeout to seconds written in it. I am editibg it using vi.
No warnings have shown up.
I have edited the timout to 0 seconds. No longer do i have to choose to boot to windows which is no longer installed.
:)
>>55045378
The amd and nvidia drivers shouldn't conflict so you shouldn't need to blacklist either of them (except for passthrough once you have everything working). You should be able to specify in xorg which driver to use.
PS: You should use the nvidia driver that comes from your distro not the one from the nvidia site. It is likely to integrate with the rest of the system and break less.
>>55044854
You could just make a chroot (look at the page on the chroot debian wiki and the debootstrap man page) then symlink the mpv from the chroot into you path somewhere.
>>55045604
My system wouldnt boot with it at all cause it kept wanting to use nouveau which doesnt support the 980ti chip.
Either way I got the 980ti working now. The problem is ubuntu will not boot with two gpus installed for me. The 980ti and the 390x can both run my system at the moment independently.
When I install both though it gets to the point where it asks for my encyption password and freezes before I can type. That is show on the first gpu. The second gpu just shows a blinking underline cursor.
I need to figure out a way now to block the 390x in Ubuntu itself so I can boot with both installed. Then I can pass the 390x to a vm.
>>55045124
I wouldn't be surprised. There are likely was to do such things much faster but it probably isn't optimised.
>>55044837
รฉs de portugal? que cidade?
>>55045304
If you are on debian or ubuntu (not familiar with others) then apt-get autoremove should theoretically remove packages marked auto that aren't depended on by any manually installed packages.
There are also ways you can use aptitude to search for automatically installed packages that meet various requirements, just look on stackoverflow somewhere ...
>>55045661
Well then blacklisting both nvidia and nouveau should work for booting and passthrough. If you can't get to your DE to blacklist them then when you get to the login screen switch to a different tty with eg ctrl+alt+F2 and login to the text terminal there and do it.
>>55045739
I want to keep the nvidia card running linux for now want to try the 390x on the vm. So ill be banning the open source amd drivers since 16.04 wont even let you tough the proprietary ones of old.
>>55044484
Calling it GNU/Linux is EXACTLY the kind of reason normies will never adopt linux.
GNU is a stupid name, hard to pronounce and not catchy at all. GNU/Linux is even fucking stupider. I dont care how butthurt it makes Stallman.
If we're gonna get our panties in a bunch over people calling it just Linux, then Linux will be the the operating system of basement dwelling dweebs forever.
>>55045848
This website is +18.
>>55045869
what are you doing here then?
>>55045848
>>55044749
Add the sid repository to sources.list
>>55045887
>truthhurts.jpg
This thread was so nice ... till now.
I have a file with over 5000 lines.
Im trying to soft them based on their file name(last part of each line) and sort them alphabetically.
I've tried sed, and sort, but i havent been able to get desired results.
>>55045869
>>55045887
yeah i dont care how little you guys care
I just keep coming across this thread and I needed to get it off my chest.
Anyone got some good Plasma 5 themes? I just fresh installed and looking for some Material Design-esque themes.
Pic related is my minimal system so far.
>>55045927
Could you post an example?
>>55045948
Thanks. Now leave.
>>55045848
Free software doesn't aim for market share. It doesn't matter if it's basement dweller software or whatever. It's all about the users freedom.
>>55046035
Why the fuck shouldn't it aim for market share? Don't we want more hardware support from the big companies?
Does a working screensaver for gnome/ubuntu 16.04 exist? Never found one on older releases. Would like to turn off the power down after whatever time option and use a screensaver instead.
>>55045980
I keep seeing this wallpaper. It it some standard pape in Plasma 5?
>>55046035
My freedom says I dont want GNU passing my lips.
>>55046072
Not that I know of. I just pulled it off /wg/ just now as a temp wallpaper before I get all set up.
Hey /fglt/, I just heard about Slackware and was wondering if it was any good as a main OS? I'm relatively new to Unix-like operating systems if that factors in at all.
Is there a shortcut to urxvt in puppy
>>55045887
what has moot got against furries?
>>55046270
it's five letters, why do you need a shortcut?
>>55045980
Does anyone even make Plasma/Qt themes? Where do people get them? The KDE Looks website is dead. DeviantArt has no Qt section. What else is there?
>>55046105
You're a gullible and naive idiot for asking such subjective, unsubstantial questions.
>>55046474
Hoe do i open it without going to thevtray and clicking thebconsole every time.
And where are the font etc. Options in puppy slackware 6
>>55046489
You're a gullible and naive idiot for thinking that all OSs are equal, slackware is shit.
How can I set up LUKS on LVM containing an encrypted root to auto-decrypt with a key on external media?
From my Debian install the default boot parameters are/vmlinuz-4.5.0-2-amd64 root=/dev/mapper/mylvm-root ro quietwhich allow me to boot with the passphrase.
I added a key to another key slot and addedcryptkey=/dev/mysdcard:vfat:/mykeyto the parameters which unsurprisingly didn't work.
I'm just not sure which parameters I need to make this particular setup do what I want.
>>55046745
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Dm-crypt/Specialties#Securing_the_unencrypted_boot_partition
Is it better to have a partition for /home or should be everythig on a single partition?
>>55045767
Alright so I have a bunch of stuff installed and now I need to blacklist the gpu I am going to pass through to the vm. So that ubuntu does not touch it so its available to pass to the vm. The problem is I can see it without it being installed and having 2 gpus in my computer stops ubuntu from booting.
Going to try switching to the gpu that I want to pass and then banning it from command line. Then ill try booting with two gpus and see if it works.
>>55046830
None of the instructions I have read mention when you are supposed to actually physically insert the second gpu. Has anyone done this before?
Why does Linux have 8 TTYs?
Why not 9 or 1?
Why does less show more while more shows less?
>>55046823
/boot
/
/home
Which one should I install to be my main OS, Debian stable or testing?
>>55046861
You can have as many as you want to configure
>8
Default is 12
>>55046880
>3 partitions
WHY
>>55046901
so you can reinstall your OS without losing your data. It's standard practice.
>>55046901
>Why
Why?
Boot is by its self so you dont fuck up your install
Root so it has all your system on it
Home so you dont fuck up your data
>>55046896
Testing. In Debianland "stable" means packages, so old, that nothing will break in the next 100 years. Unstable means rolling-like packages like on Arch.
I just got payment for installing Ubuntu
rate
>>55046950
By the way, does Arch have a warning system equivalent like "apt-listbugs"?
>>55046963
>supporting Canonical
You fucked up.
Why would anyone want to install a distro that doesn't have AUR access?
>>55046950
Doesn't testing go into code freezes anyway? And iirc they don't backport security patches to it so you're left sitting with potentially buggy upstream version of something for quite a while when they freeze
>>55047044
>i install everything from the aur just because i think it's cool
>i use coreutils-git and then complain when things "break"
>>55047044
Debianfag here, if I really need some AUR stuff, I just read the PGKBUILD - done.
>>55047044
>impling the AUR isn't just a frontend for git clone; make; sudo make install
>>55047072
>>55047110
Time to write a wrapper script, kek.
>>55046810
That's not really what I'm trying to do. I just want my bootloader to unlock my LVM with a key.
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Dm-crypt/Encrypting_an_entire_system#Configuring_the_boot_loader_4
The above explains how do it with plain dm-crypt but I'm trying to do it with my existing LVM on LUKS configuration (mistakenly said LUKS on LVM before).
I'm about to install Lubuntu for a low power laptop that is mainly for writing.
Only question I have is that is it going to be full of ads like Ubuntu was when I tried it a while ago?
So when using unity tweak tool, why the fuck can't you even preview fonts?
>>55044749
deb-multimedia.org
>>55045124
That happens when copying too. It's mostly a problem with Nautilus I think. Use the terminal when you can or install Thunar and try with it.
>>55046743
Well ldconfig is from libc-bin and ssd is from dpkg so they are both installed so your path is wrong. Run PATH=/sbin:/usr/sbin:$PATH then that should fix it. Put it in /etc/profile to make it permanent.
>>55047363
Nope. It's clean as fuck. That was just Unity.
>>55046850
If you blacklist both nvidia drivers then the fact that the card is inserted should not affect anything and you should be free to pass it through, because nothing else in the kernel will want to talk with the device.
>>55046479
Search in AUR, my man.
>>55046861
What is /etc/inittab
>>55046876
more predates less. less is a better more. Because less is more (but better).
>>55047061
new feature freezes for 6 months every two years while next stable is being finalized (but still fixes and security updates). Security updates still come through the normal update procedure which is maybe two weeks or a month depending on the maintainer (same for unstable and experimental).
Why is thunar so fast yet so... fuck ugly?
>>55047751
Because you didn't install a proper theme?
>>55047796
What is even a proper theme?
>>55047804
There are a few. Arc dark seems to be popular right now.
>>55047748
And you think month old security patches is an acceptable way of doing things?
I have been posting these for quite a while now.
Can anyone spoonfeed me install MPC-Qt in ubuntu?
I installed qtcreator already. Now I have to compile libmpv.
1. ./bootstrap.py installs wah
2. ./wah configure --enable-libmpv-shared doesn't work because apparently pkgsrc is missing(?)
>The mpv build system uses waf but we don't store it in your source tree. The script './bootstrap.py' will download the latest version of waf that was tested with the build system.
>For a list of the available build options use ./waf configure --help. If you think you have support for some feature installed but configure fails to detect it, the file build/config.log may contain information about the reasons for the failure.
>NOTE: To avoid cluttering the output with unreadable spam, --help only shows one of the two switches for each option. If the option is autodetected by default, the --disable-*** switch is printed; if the option is disabled by default, the --enable-*** switch is printed. Either way, you can use --enable-*** or --disable-** regardless of what is printed by --help.
>To build the software you can use ./waf build: the result of the compilation will be located in build/mpv. You can use ./waf install to install mpv to the prefix after it is compiled.
>>55047714
>implying less is more when more gives you clearly more, while less gives you less more
>>55047914
testing is not supposed to be used on machines with sensitive information or that are likely to be targeted, that is what stable is for. You every heard the phrase shifting the goal post. You can't have everything.
>>55044484
Nobody expects the Librรฉ Interjection.
>>55048272
>>55047914
>>55047748
>>55047061
Rule 1: Never believe what /g/ says unless it provides sauce. Do your own researches.
I upgraded NCMPCPP and now my binds no longer work.ncmpcpp volume +2
ncmpcpp volume -2
I tried --help but they dont list what the new commands are.
Help?
>>55047679
>>55047679
Whelp its still fucked. This is what I have done. I installed ubuntu/gnome 16.04 with the 390x in order to get it up because it cant handle the 980ti the open source driver it uses off the bat cant use a 980ti. I then added the 980ti drivers from the nvidia ppa. Tested the machine with both video cards by swapping them out and it worked. Then I installed kvm qemu the whole bundle I need.
Next I modifed the moduel to bring pci_stub
vfio
vfio_iommu_type1
vfio_pci
kvm
kvm_intel up when it boots.
Plus i edited the grub boot loader to add GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash intel_iommu=on"
Finally I went through the lspci -nn and actually took the pci ids to ban the card in etc/initramfs-tools/modules with the line pci_stub ids=10de:100c,10de:0e1a,10de:1005.
Still cant boot with two cards. I get to the point where I can unencypt my harddrive and the 390x is putting out the encyption password screen and the 980ti just puts out a single underline cursor.
I can switch between ttys but they dont respond. I have a blinking cursor which I can type with but when I hit enter it just goes to a new line and doesnt actually execute anything.
Thinking of going and banning whatever the drive is for that 390x. 16.04 is using the new open source drivers that are supposed to benefit from vulcan
test
>>55048549
> ubuntu
Found your problem
>>55048581
Its got an updated kernal thanks to 16.04 I dont want to learn arch I ave enough shit to learn right now.
Thought eventually Ill get to it if only to learn more about linux itself.
How can I stop KDE from dimming the screen when I'm playing retroarch in fullscreen? I don't want to disable the power management or the dimming, only when I'm using retroarch.
>>55048581
>>55048622
>>55048549
I should add I am right now googling to figure out what the new open source amd drivers are called. Anyone know?
>>55048400
ncmpcpp stopped support for that a long time ago. Use mpc for keybinds. See http://rybczak.net/ncmpcpp/faq/
Anyone successfully get League of Legends working under WINE?
I've checked Google quite a bit but am seeing mixed results and mainly Ubuntu guides. Running Debian stretch and almost tired of fucking with WINE config.
>>55048645
I have something called coffee google that. It basically keeps power management from fucking you when something is in fullscreen that doesnt stop it on its own.
>>55046745
>>55047254
Fuck it, I'm just gonna gonna reinstall with an unencrypted root. This isn't nearly as straight-forward as I thought it'd be.
If I allot 30GB to root, tmp and var, what's a good way to distribute that?
>>55048549
I dunno. Putting nomodeset seems to help in all kinds of weird graphics card situations though.
>>55048672
Did you mean caffeine?
It doesn't run in 14.04
Is it worth encrypting a SSD that holds root?
>>55048657mpc volume +2]
mpc volume -2
Such an obvious solution.
Thanks!
How do i make firefox open a file manager with bigger thumbnails when posting so i can actually see what image i chose to upload?
Im on arch, using xfce and firefox developer edition (aurora).
>>55048650
Cant find the driver. It doesnt seem to load anymore since I match the card to pci-stub.
Getting random error messages.
Might be time to embrace the dual boot for another year.
Which means either walking back my changes which isnt impossible or just reinstalling and fucking with the drivers again to get the 980ti working.
who /kde/ here?
>>55048705
/tmp should be mounted as tmpfs to your ram.
Put / and /var on the same partition
>>55047892
Arc is popular because it is like 1 of 3 themes that support 3.20 clusterfuck
>>55048837
It has limitations, if you agree to these holes in it, then yes, if not, no
Check the wiki
>>55048940
>gtk2-patched-filechooser-icon-view
>>55048984
Those who are not NEETs
>>55048984
After recently trying it out and switching to it I can't understand why anyone wouldn't like it. The k programs are amazing and packed full of excellent features.
>>55048940
Your came across a WONTFIX
>>55049098
I can get better performance within a wm and unix philosophy programs, then any de can provide.I also wont be forced to have programs be installed cause they are hard deps, and i will never use that program
>>55049169
>gtk2
>Firefox
>>55049169
tfw it breaks xfce
>>55049191
>better performance
Only because it does nothing and has no features.
>>55049217
>does nothing
I only need it to do one thing exeptionally well :^)
>features
List your magical DE INTERNET GOLD programs.
with ur sekrit programs
>>55049247
This might seem like magic to you but it really isn't.
Oh, hate to break it to you but all DEs have WMs.
>>55049294
Show me a DE that uses fluxbox :^)
>>55044484
Must be in Europe somewhere; there are whole building frontages that aren't plastered with neon signs.
>>55049310
>Fluxbox
1. Replaceable, offers nothing of importance
2. Can be enabled with one single command
Show me a WM that gives KDialog :^)
>>55049344
>fluxbox
Show me the KDE total foot print with your common day use
>KDialog
There is no use for this in any scenario, desktop no withstanding
>>55049367
>There is no use for this in any scenario
see >>55048940
>>55049191
>I can get better performance
I've been using a wm for years on an old machine and I'm not seeing much performance difference.
>>55049344
1. install gnome
2. install openbox (or i3, awesome...)
3. use openbox
4. run gnome-control-center, change settings to your liking
5. run gnome-settings-daemon
6. fully functional, non bloated, fast DE, integrated with your gnome settings.
>>55049451
And this is how the result looks like.
>>55049451
With a piece of shit dash menu and no real mouse controls or file chooser.
>>55049484
CURRENT YEAR
VIRTUAL REALITY
MAN ON THE MOON
>still no proper gtk filepicker
>>55049451
>GNOME
>non bloated
Oh god
>>55049451
>metacity will shit its pants.
>why install gnome then.
>>55049484
I've often thought about switching to KDE just because the filepicker, but then again, 1,5 gigabyte for a filepicker? Nah.
>>55049516
All you would be taking from gnome is the gnome-settings-daemon and the gnome-control-panel, using it with your own tiling manager. I think it's a decent compromise for some people (me).
Every time i use convert(imagemagick) and change quality or size,it just throws out garbled images,akin to 90's tv scramble.
>>55049595
KDE is really comfy though. It is the future
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0TzoXhAbxg
>>55049747
does KDE work with proprietary drivers?
I remember trying briefly to use it on a fresh debian install and couldn't set my resolution to 1920x1080
>>55049954
I personally am not sure. I use intel HD graphics here
>read man page for 20 minutes
>type what is supposed to work after reading it
>invalid
>spend 10 minutes looking at switches again
>invalid
>one google search and 2nd result down
>1 minute of time to solve problem
Why is man stil lso 70's? When is it going to be updated for moderen desktop use?
>>55049989
One off quads. I use man the other way round. I ask google for an answer and, if I'm struggling, my answer is more often than not in the man pages.
Been using ubuntu gnome which has been good so far, although wanting a newer gnome. Any other options on the buntu base?
Also, kubuntu vs kde neon?
>>55050064
Arch is the best distro for GNOME and Plasma 5.
>>55049595
Are you living in 2009?
>>55050133
Actually this
How would I add windows to my UEFI boot list?
I believe I would do something like:
sudo efibootmgr -c -d /dev/sda -p 2 -L "Windows" -l "/boot/efi/EFI/Microsoft/Boot/bootmgfw.efi"
Is this correct or wrong? My EFI partitions on Windows is at /dev/sda2.
install linux distro they said.
you will be happy they said.
start with ubuntu they said.
>install steam
not working
>install trelby
not working
thank you
>>55050179
Found my problem, it was:
sudo efibootmgr -c -d /dev/sda -p 2 -L "Windows 10" -l "\EFI\Microsoft\Boot\bootmgfw.efi"
The entry has to use \ and the location for bootmfw.efi I had was wrong.
Why don't they teach basic GNU/Linux in schools other than college/university? We had
>Typing
>Photoshop
>Excel
>Powerpoint
>Architecture Design
They should really teach UNIX and/or UNIX-like operating systems. Too many times I see Windows users come into infosec and CSIS and they're completely lost.
>>55050040
Im at the point is stripping out man and doc pages on compile, as google solves the problem within 2 pages.
>>55050400
delete dat bloat my ni/g/
Hi lads, I'm trying to install Elementary OS in my Mac, single boot. Right now I'm on the LiveCD because after installation there's no boot device, how can I possibly fix this?
any reason to actually install gentoo or is it just a meme?
>>55049989
>>55050400
So what exactly were you trying to do?
>>55050534
Sed,and ffmpeg.
Challenge: How to generate a random number in a POSIX shell?
>>55050568
It's just a meme, mate.
>>55049595
>>55049507
So like I mentioned yesterday if anyone knows something 3rd party that can act as a file picker I have an LD_PRELOAD library that can call it in place of both the gtk and qt ones.
>>55050307
Shit happens.
>>55050378
I remember in my EE department we all had logins to the linux cluster. No-one told us of course, I don't even know how I found out but that is where I first used linux. IIRC it was fedore before KDE killed itself. Good old university, so much procrastination.
>>55050568
Gentoo is nice if you like to configure your packages before you install them. You can enable or disable features and end up with a optimal system. Kids like >>55050593 call it a meme because they think compiling requires some sort of ebin 1337 programming skillz, but in reality you just the package manager like everywhere else.
>>55050648
Someone could simply port the gtk2 patch to gtk3, problem solved. To I know shit about gtk.
>>55050744
What is the recommended pathway for going about, if you want to do a stage 1 install of gentoo?
>>55050810
too bad*
I guess I'll ask here since I got no answers in the hardware thread.
I moved into an old house, best place to hook up the modem is in the basement. Instead of busting up my walls to run wires (made even more difficult by them being lathe and plaster instead of drywall) I'm just going to get a wireless card for my desktop.
What is a good card that can work with Mint? I don't have super fast internet only ~60Mbps and I'm not doing any custom network setup (at the moment) just need to be able to stream stuff, browse the internet, and download games from gog/steam without taking a week.
I only ask because I've heard Mint can have issues with some wireless cards.
>>55050821
The same like on Arch: Get some coffee, sit down and follow the guide.
>>55050840
Just get a really long Ethernet cable and hope no one trips on it. That's what I do.
>>55050859
>a week
>when you can install comfy ubuntu in one hour
>>55050873
I'd like to stay wired, but I don't want an Ethernet cable running all the way from my basement up to the second floor and I don't want to go through the walls, at least not yet, other things I need to spend money on in an old house like this.
>>55050859
If you want to compile everything, a weekend.
When will Wine add awareness of multiple monitors? Right now I can't use Powerpoint's presenter view (inb4 durr just use LibreOffice) and a lot of Linux games that use Wine have fucked fullscreen modes when a second monitor is plugged in. It's driving me nuts.
>>55050895
>being a canonical cuck
>>55050840
Anything intel-based should work fine, but a few I've worked with are:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004BV4JXI/ <- If you need a big-ass antenna (was working with a Raspberry Pi for media streaming)
https://www.amazon.com/Gigabyte-GC-WB867D-I-Bluetooth-Frequency-Compatible/dp/B019JH89YI/ <- If you need something AC based.
>>55050976
I have never had this problem
I've used it on 2 and 3 monitor setups,
I cant find it,but there is an export you can set to use which monitor you want to be the default for fullscreen
>>55051035
It's a known bug that's been open since 2007:
https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7416
Wine is only "aware" of one monitor at a time.
How do I fully uninstall something? Whenever I do sudo apt-get remove apparently it doesn't actually remove anything because if I install it again it doesn't even download anything. Also meaning remove all config files and everything.
>>55051019
Thanks I'll look into those. I don't think I'll need a massive antenna though since the wifi card in my laptop works just fine. But I can't really do CK2 on my laptop.
>>55051139
Downloaded archives are cached. Use `apt-get clean` to remove them.
Config files are kept unless the package is purged. To purge a package, use `apt-get purge <packagename>`
>>55051139
sudo apt-get autoremove --purge steam
>>55051259
>>55051228
Awesome, thanks guys. One more quick one. I use i3 with rofi and I have some programs like Soulseek and Telegram that are just executable files. How do I add these to rofi? Is it just a matter of adding them to my path?
>>55051196
The antennas in laptops have pretty good gain because they run up the side of the monitor. A tiny USB dongle won't really match that.
If you haven't already purchased a router, try to go for something with external antennas by the way. That really helps with floor penetration.
Good luck with your purchase
>>55051302
Yeah, I've had this Rosewill router with external antennae for a few years now. Thanks again.
Computers nOOb here.
Can you recommend me an OS that a failure, who wrote some of a command line based text editor but none of the tools, libraries and especially kernel, tries to take credit for?
Bonus points if said OS has a license baked in to it that is viral and incredibly restrictive and promoted by said failure.
>>55051282
yes
>>55044484
LOL at that OP image, how is that the first time I'm seeing this.
>>55051418
>LOL at that OP image, how is that the first time I'm seeing this.
Because the image was created using non-free tools that rape your freedom. Had it been made in GNU/Photoshop or GNU/Corel PaintShop Pro or GNU/Paint.net you would have had to freedom to see it sooner.
Hey my xorg is spamming this message to my logs over and over. What does it mean?[ 90413.073] (--) NVIDIA(GPU-0):
[ 90413.095] (--) NVIDIA(GPU-0): WDT CW26S3CW (DFP-0): connected
[ 90413.095] (--) NVIDIA(GPU-0): WDT CW26S3CW (DFP-0): Internal TMDS
[ 90413.095] (--) NVIDIA(GPU-0): WDT CW26S3CW (DFP-0): 340.0 MHz maximum pixel clock
>tfw finally set up my ssh fileserver
Why is it so slow though?
>>55051559
probably because it wants to kill itself after rendering those fonts so shittily
>>55051592
Let's see your fonts
>>55051559
Because its SSH. Try FTP. It should run faster.
>>55051623
Thanks I'll try that
>>55051516
Also xorg is sitting at 30% cpu.
I am trying to disable the GUI in puppy linux. I ran into somebody telling me to change runlevel at etc/innitab.
However I cannot find this. I am using 6.03
>>55051793
Ok. Nvm. I don't want to disable the GUI anymore. Instead i would love to know the shortcut to opening the terminal with keyboard.
So in Unity, clicking on an icon in the launcher when there are two or more windows open switches to the last used window. Clicking it again opens the window spread so you can select which window you want. Is there a way to make it so the first click opens the window spread right away?
>come home after being out of town
>thunderstorm from hell
>microwave clock reset, power has been out
>computer booted back up when power was restored, but one of the monitors didn't come back
>test the monitor with an old xbox
>all ports working fine
Must be the HDMI port on my computer. The DVI out works fine. I'm using the integrated graphics on an Intel i7-2700k, and running Gentoo. This exact thing has happened before, storm included, and I fixed it, but I can't remember how and I can't figure it out.
The monitor seems to know that something is connected to the port that the computer is using, because it will switch to that input, which it won't do if nothing is connected. It's just not getting a signal. The monitor doesn't show up in arandr.
tl;dr How do I troubleshoot monitor detection in Linux?
>>55051559 here
GOD I hate gtk cancer
>>55048940
Use a keybind for your file manager and drag & drop.
How do i make Fonts looking good on Gentoo? serious question
>>55053750
Use a good fontconfig with freetype2 there should be examples on the wikis.
I got a laptop getting shipped to me soon with mint installed on it. I've read vastly differing opinions over /g/ so I'd just like to get some thoughts on mint. Should I stick with it or install a different distro?
>>55054059
It is likely that you will break your first install anyways out of being new and being interested in computers. put a debian netinstall iso on a usb mass storage device for when you fucked up and just play with mint to your hearts content.
debian testing or ubuntu ?
I'm running Debian stable: it just works and that's awesome, but now i want newer software.
I don't mind if something breaks, i can fix it by miself, but i don't want to deal with bug crashes every single time i update the system. It would be easier to switch to testing, since i get to keep my data and i don't have to tweak the OS again, but ubuntu has more support, more software and more users.
My autism tells me to keep debian because i'm sure it's 100% free software, while canonical looks shady. So /g/ is ubuntu worth it if i care about my privacy and security?
>>55054690
>but ubuntu has more support, more software and more users.
Source?
Debian support/irc is pretty nice and this thread exists.
debian stretch is nice but i might be biased because i run sid.
>>55054721
Yes, most tutorials for ubuntu also work on debian, but usually when people say linux they mean ubuntu, so if you're using something else you will have more problems. It's rare, but it may happen, i think. Actually I'm more concerned about newer software than this
>>55054747
If you are concerned about newer software point releases are not for you anyway so ubuntu is not an option.
I added a job in my crontab to run once a day. Do I also need to add something to cron.daily? Sorry. I don't know why this is kind of confusing to me
>>55054944
What do you mean?
I wanted to install ubuntu LTS and always get the latest cinnamon version.
Let's say i have ubuntu 16.04 with cinnamon 2.8. After a year will i get cinnamon 3.x or will i have to upgrade to ubuntu 17.04 in order to receive the latest updates?
>>55054951
No, you just add it to either place. Please be aware that crontab is run as *your* user, where cron.daily is usually run as root.
>>55055014
In point releases only security and bugfixes get backported to ensure stability. If you are on current LTS and something gets a major update, you will most likely either need to wait until the next release or compile it yourself.
In a rolling release you will always get the newest stuff.
>>55055057
Okay. Thanks. Well, I noticed that I can specify root or user in the crontab.
>>55055118
With crontab you mean running the command crontab right? If you're running as root, you can specify a user with the -u flag, such as crontab -e -u anon
>>55049312
this was actually taken near where i live.
https://www.google.it/maps/@41.8954341,12.4940029,3a,75y,237.19h,91.54t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sEIZuHrGcHBHMd9msHpXg-Q!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
>>55055146
Well I did crontab -e to edit crontab but I noticed there were already some in there to remove old cron logs like
59 * * * * root [ ! -x /etc/cron.hourly/0anacron ] && rm -f /var/spool/cron/lastru
n/cron.hourly
I commented those out and put one
0 0 * * * root /usr/bin/emerge --sync
It doesn't seem to want to add this one though
0 0 * * * root /usr/bin/updatedb
I noticed that other peoples crontabs don't have root specified though. That's why I wasn't sure.
>>55055146
>>55055220
*I'm using cronie by the way
>>55055220
That's because when you're running crontab -e, you're editing the crontab of your current user. If you're logged in as root, then it's the root crontab. You don't need to specify that shit there.
>>55055244
I gotcha
When I follow these two guides (http://www.cs.columbia.edu/~jae/4118-LAST/arch-setup-2015-1.html) (https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Beginners'_guide) on installing arch on my laptop (not VM), my wireless never when I boot the OS. what's the systemctl enable dhcpcd.service for wireless?
Has anyone here ever actually seen RMS in real life?
>>55055107
I see. Who has the newer software, debian testing or ubuntu (also non-LTS)?
Does debian testing break very often or is it just the occasional bug?
If i only use the main repo there won't be proprietary software right?
Can I use debian testing as a C++ development machine or will it lack too many libraries? Maybe ubuntu has more stuff, I'm asking just to avoid future headaches
pls help how do I post in links?
>>55055554
How did you get the trasparent terminal in debian?
by the way try elinks
how does one get thumbnails for webms?
xfce on ubuntu here
>>55055606
It's Ubuntu Unity :^) I just like the Debian logo and the blue doesn't "feel" as hot as the default Unity background. (I'm getting toasted by a 27'' and a 30'' monitor at work)
Edit > Profile Preferences > Background
>>55055643
Can't do that on debian, i wonder why.
Anyway the CAPTCHA is based on javascript , so i don't think you can solve it on the terminal
>>55049010
>Arc is popular because it is like 1 of 5 themes that support recent GTKs
I hate Arc more than Numix. With its grey on white text and high contrast. There's barely a handful of themes which can be used nowadays that aren't abandoned or broken.
>arc
>numix
>zuki-themes
>default adwaita theme
>that one material design theme, adapta something, which is ugly and distracting af
Here's hoping that Greybird gets a 3.20 update soon.
>>55049191
> within a wm
How do you use X without an X window manager? Why did you have to emphasise "wm"?
>and unix philosophy programs
What's more UNIX about your utility software compared to the utility software bundled with KDE Plasma?
>>55051559
Which GTK theme is that?
>>55052763
Stop using it then.
>>55055620
ffmpegthumbnailer
>>55055848
thanks fampai
>>55055761
>Can't do that on debian, i wonder why.
What terminal are you using?
In arch how do I boot start to the desktop? Or at least how do I get a GUI login? I have xfce4 installed.
>>55055546
Debian testing is quite stable actually, but if you go testing you might as well use sid. Just make sure to have apt-listbugs and apt-listchanges installed.
>>55056169
Install a display manager and enable it.
$ sudo pacman -S lightdm; sudo systemctl enable lightdm -f
How do I enable minimizing windows when clicked dock icon in Gnome 3? Like it's in the gif.
=ubuntu gnome 16.04=
>>55056251
thanks.
got a problem now. Saying[failed] Failed to start light display manager.
and it won't go past the boot screen.
>>55056308
Install a greeter, e.g.
pacman -S lightdm-gtk-greeter
See: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/LightDM for details.
>>55056308
okay ctrl+alt+f2 got me pass the boot screen. guess this is why they call it a time sink os.
>>55056333
It's not a time sink OS if you're not an idiot and know what a display manager is. You don't even need a display manager. X can be started with startx from a tty.
>>55056299
I like the animated background. :^)
>>55056396
I found it while I was serching for a solution. Spend your 5$ well :^)
>>55044484
what's the absolute most minimal bootable linux system I can possibly have.
I just need to be able to get to a bash prompt. That's all.
>>55056592
tiny core
>>55056608
>tiny core
>bash
