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Gender Identity Disorder vs Body Dysmorphia
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>man has "Gender Identity Disorder" (identifies as a woman even though he's male): Gets free hormones, free therapy, free medical treatment for his mental disorder. Gets to "transition" to a woman without having to pay for his hormones or seek them out through "shady" sources, also gets doctors advice as he takes them.

>man has "Body Dysmorphia" (identifies as swolecunt even though he's a skelly): Forced to resort to the black market/underground economy to assuage his mental disorder, doctors make "DRUG SEEKING BEHAVIOUR" notes on his chart if he expresses curiosity about TRT/AAS.

Why is this okay?
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>>36700025
Why are you so fucking lazy and bitch mode? Just go get huge you lazy fuck
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>>36700034
Wow this is a very dysphobic post check your hormone-producing privilege, shitlord

Not all of us are as high-T as you
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Slaves are feminized. Why would you want freedom if you are already a passive female? If you are feminized, you are the cheapest slave, you are dumb and weak, you are a dog without a leash that never runs away. From kid's school, femininity is being taught to you as something good, you won't learn the bad things about it from people and media, you won't learn about the sense of no direction and narcissism, nor the inherent pains that you get for being weak, nor its emotional moral system. Masculinity will be taught as something necessarily bad, you won't learn about man's proper leadership nor proper high expectations, much less about repentance and responsibility. On the contrary to the latter, you will be encouraged to think that whatever you are is valid while being bombarded with suggestions according to their plan, you will be made to believe there is no free will, no responsibility, but that you should over-consider your emotions etc. All reason will be taken away from you, if it doesn't affect your mindless job. There won't be such thing as independent thought, because you think it is worse than murder, you will think being reasonable is to be very unhappy. This already happens, if you agree with Hitler, who hated races solely for their behavior, you are worse than a murderer, and if you study Physics, you must be very unhappy. People are simply too emotional about this, people are too narcissistic to realize it, these are all female curses that we tolerate.
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>>36700025
You should start campaigning for this to be changed. I would but I'm way too lazy and I can't help but think it would be cringey as fuck to see people doing it. I would appreciate it being done though for sure.
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>>36700067
>femininity is being taught to you as something good

but it is. my bussy feels better after it.
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>>36700081
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>>36700025
I think therapy (cognitive-behavioural) works for BDD, though.
>seek treatment
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>>36700127
But why don't trannies have to deal with only getting CBT (which is a liberal meme btw)?

Not all GiD patients get brain scans so don't give me this meme that "muh female brain in muh male body" justifies giving them free hormones. For all we know, some of them just need some Cognitive Memehavioral Treatment too :^)
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Trannies?
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>>36700166
Because it doesn't work for them, according to psychologists. If you want to believe they're lying to you then ok.
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>>36700025
Because the homosexual industrial complex has a strangle hold on the west

Don't conform to their standards

Dare to speak out

Dare to fight back

Dare to rebel
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>>36700216
Why is Viper so based?
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>>36700196
So all I need is to pay some psychiatrists to say "CBT doesn't work to treat BDD"?

Why do trannies get pandered and lobbied for but skellys dont? Is it because psychiatrists are all liberal faggot shitbirds?

Why do men with BDD get so much scrutiny and so much disdain while men with GiD get red carpet treatment by politicians, physicians, and psychiatrists?
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>>36700196
>according to psychologists

Psychology is pseudoscience
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>>36700216
I would but I'm too financially poor and DYEL to fight or speak out.

All I can do is make threads about it on 4chan
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>>36700249
It's just when people say shit like cutting off dicks makes sense or gays should be able to raise children in their homes we need brave people to rise up and say NO emphatatically
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>>36700235
Exactly. Everyone shills for men who want to be trannies because of this meme that "they have female brains in male bodies", but they don't give MRI brain scans to every cuck who asks for hormones for GID. In spite of that, they still satiate every cuck who wants hormones without making them take a brain scan first.

Why cant we find a study proving that swole men have different brains than DYEL men? Testosterone does effect cognitive function and thought processes, after all.
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>>36700233
>Why do men with BDD get so much scrutiny and so much disdain
Men who use steroids do, but if they have BDD then they seem to have people's sympathy. I've seen articles saying "Young men are pushed to steroid use by unrealistic body-image expectations".
>Why does GiD get red carpet treatment
Because it's a competition to be tolerant/moral and for some reason (probably feminism) identity politics and gender-bending are "in".
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>>36700292
I don't disagree with the second part of your post, but I'm talking about men who have BDD that DON'T use steroids.

Why cant they get AAS' to treat their BDD the same way trannies get titty skittles to treat their GID?
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>>36700089
whats this guy up to now?
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>>36700323
MEMES, JACK

MEMES
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>>36700277
I don't think BDD is about your brain being wired to be a specific size. Apart from anything BDD sufferers never seem to reach the end with it, no size is enough. Giving you testosterone won't solve your problems because you'll need hgh next etc.
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If i feel like a bigger man than i am , will doctor prescribe me test ?
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>>36700351
>I feel like a woman!
>>Ok here's some estrogen, you don't need an MRI, I believe you

>I feel like a man with 12%BF at 185lbs and 5'11"
>>lol yeah right fgt I bet your brain doesn't match your feelings let's put you under an MRI and see if you're just bullshittin me or not

???
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>>36700351
Trannies don't feel "good enough" after they have "The Surgery", and many commit suicide after "officially transitioning" through surgery.

So why the double standard? We can't give men with BDD steroids because they might not have an end in sight, but we can give men with GID hormones and surgery even though they'll end up killing themselves because "it's not good enough"?
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Because we live in a time of "muh lgbtq" and anyone who "identifies" as a straight cis male is demonized and oppressed. Wanting to be bigger is a hypermasculine behavior.

For doctors however, most don't know that much about AAS from med school. There are definitely doctors out there who regularly work with athletes who are very well verses in aas. Its not something youd know much about unless you were personally interested. Steroids are so stigmatized right now that its taboo for doctors to be interested in that kind of thing and even more so to support their patients doing it.
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>>36700412
Would it be easier for me to get AAS from a doctor if I'm not white? Taking into account the LGBTBBQ liberal environment in academia and medicine, that is.
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FUCKING
LIBERALS

RRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>36700420

I dont think skin color matters for medicine, you still should get proper treatment if the doc isnt racist or w/e. If doc is white and you're white, and you have low test or muscle wasting steroids shouldnt be a problem to get.

But getting them when you're healthy is a different issue. All I know is that I outright asked to get bloods done because im taking steroids and want to watch my health, he said "I don't support your anabolic use but I'll watch over you"
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> Get a gf
> Get her to lie to a doctor about TRT / HRT treatment
> Get prescription drugs
> Get swole

k im doing it
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>>36700411
I don't know why they treat BDD the way they do, but I don't think it's a leftist conspiracy to hurt men.
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>person can't see shit
>has to pay for glasses or eye surgery
>faggot mentally ill retard wants to be woman or the other way around
>surgery is fully paid

>man has gyno
>has to pay for surgery
>faggot mentally ill retard wants to be woman or the other way around
>surgery is fully paid

>person has mad acne
>has to pay for accutane
>faggot mentally ill retard wants to be woman or the other way around
>surgery is fully paid
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>>36700542
>but I don't think it's a leftist conspiracy to hurt men
Ok but if my testosterone levels come in at markedly lower than average, and men's average test levels have been dropping since the 1940's, what do you call it?

Even people (cucks) like you who dismiss most things that can be labeled as "conspiracy theories" have admitted that there's an inordinate amount of phalates and xenoestrogens in plastics and water supplies since the past 20 years (that's why you see "BPA-free" on everything now).

If one can factually prove with unbiased evidence that the average testosterone levels of all men have dropped over the past 80 years, and there's an extreme backlash on the part of the status quo whenever people talk about TRT to remedy that, what do you call it if you don't want to call it a "conspiracy to hurt men"? I'd really like to know.
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>>36700565
You can thank the jews for this
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>>36700542
https://vimeo.com/15346778

>weird chemicals in plastics and shampoos, soaps, cleaners have been adversely affecting ecosystems over the past 40 years
>less males are being born, not just human males, but male fish, frogs, animals of all species
>scientists, biologists, chemists, and endocrinologists all publish evidence to support this as more than just a "conspiracy theory"

>LMAO ITS NOT A LEFTIST CONSPIRACY TO HURT MEN YOU SHITLORD
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>>36700565
Left the best part out, too.

>faggot mentally ill retard wants to be woman or the other way around
>surgery is fully paid
>that faggot mentally ill retard still ends up killing himself because he considered that surgery a solution but his life is still as miserable if not more as before
Money well spent.
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>>36700067
>and if you study physics you must be very unhappy

I mean, your post is obviously b8, but it was almost coherent up until that part
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>>36700692
Its just a c/p'd reply to a thread I made in /pol/ 2bh fambulance
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Yeah there's a difference between identifying as a gender and "identifying" (read: your low self esteem makes you see shit in the mirror that isn't there, so you erroneously accept that you're fat or skelly when you're not and yourlack.of self-esteem incorporates this as a fragment of your sense of self) as looking a certain

Granted, i don't understand it 100%, i identify as the sex i was born but am still gender fluid... wouldn't get surgery, but i guess the dissonance is a lot more overwhelming with some ppl.
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>>36701231
Don't transplain to me, you dysphobic fucking shitlord.

You don't know what it's like to be me because you've got trans privilege, so you just get everything handed to you by doctors and therapists. Including the benefit of the doubt.
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>>36701248
Wtf? I'm not trans you idiot maybe lrn2reading comprehension
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>>36701399
Ok then stop shitlordsplaining to me, you fucking shitlord.

You're "genderfluid" so it's easy for therapists, doctors, and psychiatrists/psychologists to believe anything you say 100%. You literally have genderfluid privilege. A "cis" male with BDD doesn't have anywhere near the kind of privilege you do when they talk to doctors, psychologists, or therapists.

Check your fucking medical privilege.
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>>36701231

>Yeah there's a difference between identifying as a gender and "identifying" (read: your low self esteem makes you see shit in the mirror that isn't there, so you erroneously accept that you're fat or skelly when you're not and yourlack.of self-esteem incorporates this as a fragment of your sense of self) as looking a certain

There literally isn't, it's all just make believe

>i identify as the sex i was born but am still gender fluid

Fag.
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>>36701444
Why yes i am a fag tyvm for noticing

Also yes gender is make-believe but i've never been inside the head of a trans person i don't know if it's a gender thing or a sex thing, but i do gave a MtF friend who claimed to have an overwhelming desire to bear a child. Like i know that's not possible even with surgery, but it raises questions about the physicality of the identification.

And i mean psychs are willing to prescribe anti-depressants that (might) induce suicidal thoughts to depressives, so why not sex surgery to trans?

Big pharma, desu. But whatever makes anyone happy, i'm not gonna judge.

You on the other hand seem to have issues, mang.
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>>36701528
>You on the other hand seem to have issues, mang.
1.) not an argument
2.) pot calling the kettle black

Obviously I don't have "issues" if your buddies (psychiatrists, therapists, et.al) say I don't :^)
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>>36701528
I have an overwhelming desire to bench 4pl8 for reps, so I guess that raises questions about why doctors aren't prescribing me test-E for my low-test ass
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>>36701560
Why do you think i see psychiatrists?
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>>36701616
So they can reinforce your inherent delusions about yourself and make you feel like your mental issues are completely normal.

Same reason I shitpost/blogpost/funpost on Bajoran Historical Poetry Exchange Networks
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>>36701631
No, what i meant was that i don't see psychiatrists.

Like i said, big pharma tbqh. I am not personally in favor of using drugs (or surgery) to deal with issues, but if if it helps others that aren't able to deal on their own, i just don't see the problem. Id you're happy, you're happy.
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>>36701704
but I'm not
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>>36700025
all can die in hellfire for i m free man
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>>36701754
What did he mean by this?
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>>36700216

lol? Most homos would be more than happy to see more swole manly testosterony men on the market. We're not doing anything to prevent you from getting it, it's all women's fault trust me "muh toxic masculinity"
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>>36701771
Ok but homos are the ones teaming up with women to feminize everyone with faggy shit like Common Core and "check ur privilege"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3adatEVSL9M

More men than women in this video, fampai
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>>36701803

No you retard, those are SJW feminists and trannies. Most gay guys despise those people. Tranny =/= gay
Feminists hate gay men too, they think they're the most privileged people on the planet and they're triggered by the fact gay men don't want to have sex with them. They only care about lesbians
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>>36701725
Then figure out what will help you achieve happiness.

I recommend figuring out what you love to do and doing it.

Also,.if gender and body dysmorphia are make-believe, so is the ego itself. It's difficult to explain without sounding trite, but you need to find yourself, accept yourself, and love yourself. I do believe that doing what you love is the first step.
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because people who have GID will often kill themselves without treatment
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>>36701894
Low testosterone causes similar stress and depression issues, although I wouldn't say they're as extreme as to lead to suicide.
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>>36701906

most cases of male suicide are low test betas lol. Why do you think Elliot rodgers went on a suicide spree
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>>36701967
And most trannies who killed themselves are low test failed males lmao

:^)
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ok
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>>36701894
This. If a tranny kills them self its not because they chopped their genitals off and regretted it, but because society mocks and ridicules them for it. If you were told you were a mentally ill freak undeserving of a place in society everyday for your entire life you would probably kill yourself too
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>>36702763
Yeah because it's always someone elses fault.

They are mentally ill.
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>>36702763
>but because society mocks and ridicules them for it.
lmao WRONG

Are you fucking retarded or did your mom drink while she was pregnant with you?

That faggot tranny who jumped in front of a truck (Leelah Acorn) killed himself and everyone in his school, his parents, and his "friends" (fag hags) all sucked his dick 24/7 to try and be more "progressive" and "tolerant" than eachother.

You're fucking deluded, the media and society panders to trannies more than ever. If anything, it's trannies who bully other trannies; they even call the ugly ones special slur words like "hon" and shit.

>t. autist degenerate pro
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Are an ai and serm both needed in pct, or should I run the ai on cycle and only use a serm?
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>complaining about trans people on the gayest board
When_hte_meem_is_well_executed
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>>36700025
I sexually Identify as broccoli and honestly I find that there are difficulties in my own routine. I often just have a good diet with lots of sunlight and fertilizer for suppliments along with a healthy amount of water dont be discouraged friendo we all can make gains.

>pic related me on the right six weeks ago and the left is me now
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>>36703251
>cuck cuck cuck
Maybe if you all weren't impotent little shits your precious virgin queens wouldn't cheat on you with manlier races
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>>36700025
Kekerino
>be ftm 2 years on testosterone
>before t working out besides cardio is almost pointless because no gains
>after t (with t levels within low male range mind you) working out is easy peasy long as you lift something over 5 lbs and eat right you can get big
>guys here on literal easy mode for fitness complaining because theyre too lazy to exercise and diet and want roids instead
Guess whos not gonna make it...
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>>36703322
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>>36703341
>takes literal steroids
>says "guys who are natty are on literal easy mode"

This is quantum bait
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>>36703409
I didn't ask for a selfie
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>>36703534
Literally nothing in the post you replied to contained the word "cuck".

Sorry you've got cuck porn on the brain brah
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>>36703566
Oh my bad. I was agreeing with you and continuing on my previous post
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>>36703722
Why would you reply to a .gif with no words with a diatribe about cucking though
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>>36703748
It fit the thread
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>>36703761
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>>36700025
>identify as 6'4 dom top bear
>be 5'4 sub btm fuck boy

Where's my social justice warrior?
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>>36700084
Post your boypussy after you've softened it up with dildoes.
Fucking do it you little cumslut
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>>36703769
I deserve this
Ec stack makes me wanna argue
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>>36701803
Lmao what does common core has to do with social issues? Is /fit/ seriously this retarded nowadays?
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>>36703800
Common Core teaches nonaggression, conflict avoidance, espouses femininity, and chastizes masculinity.

Kill yourself, cuck.

https://youtu.be/1Cgwa2rmlfw

Common Core also teaches children about transgenderism and "sexual identities" before they're even 15.
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>>36703819
Oh so you're using "common core" as a catch all term for bad educational reforms. Nothing less from a mouthbreathing retard
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>>36703859
Not an argument.

Nothing less from a mentally ill failed male tranny.
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>>36703865
>projecting
>strawman
>ad hominem
>literally ignoring facts
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_Core_State_Standards_Initiative
>English, arts and math
>not one mention of social issues
Lmao what a damn idiot. Literary more retarded than /his/ and more mentally deficient than /lgbt/
>>>/pol/
Consider your bait successful.
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>>36703925
>d-do as I say, not as I do!

Stupid failed male trannymeposter.
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>>36701771
Truth
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>>36700411
or they keep having more and more surgeries. It's never enough
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>>36703800
/fit/ has always been retarded.
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>>36705521
Cuck.
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>2016
>not being a transnigger transgendered lesbian

its like you want your priviledge to be checked
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>>36706241
I'm a doubly transman. I'm a man trapped in a woman who's trapped in a man's body
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>>36705551
See
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Trappy dox when?
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