How does smoking weed affect gains?
No, it is retarded tho
>>37961952
Smoking affects breathing affects gains
Vaping doesnt, unless you have a low quality vape that still carbonizes material.
I use dabs intraworkout, mostly before really heavy sets or PR attempts. I feel the proprioception helps with form, and the vasodilation helps being blood to the muscles and i can usually squeeze out one more rep compared to if I hadn't dabbed.
Only recommended if you have an extremely high tolerance
>>37961952
I heard it affects test levels
Also it fucks your cardio up
>>37961964
It wasn't a yes or no question, ye dumbass
>>37961999
Good to know, thanks senpai
>>37962002
I can still run a 6 min mile, so I think I am good
>>37962007
Dump weedsmoker. You can always spot the dumb weed smokers by the retarded almost braindead responses, sage and not reported ;)
>>37962018
It's not really a secret, m8o
>>37962018
you are so retarded it hurts to read.
>>37962050
>>37962074
Dumb weedposters
>nuh uh your teh retard *hits bong*
>>37962088
Nigga
>Sleep good for gains?
>Eating lots good for gains?
>Pain reduction good for gains?
>Inspiration good for gains?
Anyone who says weed is bad for gains is just trying to garner virtue from being abstinent to something they were never introduced to or weren't brave enough to try.
>>37962438
Weed makes your sleep worse.
When you go to sleep high or slightly high you will skip you REM sleep, thats why you dont have any dreams whilst sleeping high.
Your REM sleep is very important because it is your deepest sleep, skipping this fucks up your recovery.
Do not go to sleep high or slightly high.
If you can combine smoking weed with working out then its fine.
However with weed its easy to overeat, lose your motivation and like I told this >>37962438 anon, it will fuck up your sleep by not giving you optimal rest.
But if you use weed as a reward for working out, so only smoking after a good workout and dont go to sleep high you can pull it off.
But we all know how easy it is to say fuck it I'll just go smoke some weed and work out tomorrow instead.
Its up to you if you can pull it off.
Ex daily smoker here
>Wasted years doing it
>Stopped two years ago
>Realise stoner culture is pathetic
>9/10 stoners are hopeless
>Makes you lazy
>You don't actually enjoy it, you enjoy forgetting about your problems
>You smell like shit, eat like shit, look like shit
>Your druggie friends don't give half a fuck about you as a person
>As soon as you say you're a stoner or people hear that you are, respect is lost
Hounestly nothing good comes from it. If you have a joint once every couple of months for your own enjoyment that's fine. Anything else is pathetic
>>37962552
>>You don't actually enjoy it, you enjoy forgetting about your problems
This.
I dont have any problems to forget but its a nice way to forget/don't care that you are bored.
>>37962552
This
Your really just killing time. You probably get high and watch family guy all night thinking your living like snoop dogg
>>37961952
Almost none, beneficial sometimes if your bulking, harder if your cutting.
I've been smoking and lifting regularly for 5+ years. Take everything with a grain of salt.
>tfw live in Austin, Texas where smoking weed is to these fuckwits like pepe maymays are to tumblr
>tfw the people here are the most unbearable excuse for human beings on the god damn planet
>>37962002
>fuck your cardio
Literally never proven
All things in moderation OP
Good rule of thumb to live by
>>37962602
Probably a gram of salt to you ya fucking junkie
>>37962619
Lol nah bro you'll OD on that
>injecting 1 whole gram of marijuanas
>insta death
>>37962614
Smoking WILL fuck up your lungs, thus fucking with your cardio.
>>37962552
This so much....
I was stoned pretty much every single day last year and despite being in my final year of uni and working, you feel like a shitcunt. It just got to the point where it wasn't enjoyable to be high anymore. People do lose respect for you and i know this first hand. The best part of it all is that it was a good hit of LSD that woke me up to all the stupid shit i was doing last year, and i haven't had a joint or even a cigarette since the start of the year.
Moral of the story fags, hit up a tab of LSD and re-evaluate your life.
>>37962661
I'm not being naive about it, it certainly would given enough time but like I said it's literally never been proven in a study which is why you didn't bother linking one. I'm just not sure if you or other people greatly exaggerate the effects to which it negatively impacts cardio. I for one don't care personally for it but I understand it being a genuine concern for others.
>>37962676
Inhaling anything other then just clean air is detrimental to your lungs.
This means it can effect your cardio.
How much effect it will have is not known yet however I think its safe to say there will be some negative effects.
>>37961952
i cant smoke weed cause its not fun at all and kills my motivation
my friend blazes all the time though and his made great progress in the gym
everyones different basically
Smoking will affect your gains one way or another no matter what.
The ONLY faggots that defend it are degenerate smokers themselves. You can sit there and cry about there being no studies etc all you want but in practice i've seen plenty of people turn into absolute retards and slobs while smoking regularly.
>>37962552
>>37962669
You guys sound like you'd be losers with or without pot. I strictly managed a cut while smoking and hardly ever ate shit due to the munchies over years of use. I take it medicinally however for an auto immune disease that would otherwise have likely required surgery at this point. Grades never dropped and maintained relationships. Think frequency of use and self control/discipline are key factors for individuals. I agree on hating stoner "culture" though, pot should only be used to enhance experiences in life not BE the experience, if that makes sense.
>>37962690
I agree bro, only thing I was cautious of was the extent of the effect it would have , minimal vs very noticeable for instance etc. Think we're on the same page man, just depends how high you personally value cardio before making the decision.
>>37962692
This. It varies too much on it's effects in individuals to make any sweeping generalizations about it. That said I don't care for most stoners despite practically being one by habit.
>>37962692
Sort of same here, I don't lose motivation or anything, I feel great the next day, but I'm one of those who practically falls to sleep with the bong to my mouth
>>37962693
DYEL?
>>37962729
Your move anon.
>>37961952
FUUUUUUUUUUCKING DRUG ADDICTS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>37962789
Routine??
>>37962799
Don't smoke 3x5
>>37962494
Learn more about sleep before you post.
I haven't smoked for a few years but I'm thinking about vaping it again soon.
I'd probably only do it once a week. I used to love getting high and jamming on guitar with a loop pedal. I've been struggling to pick up the guitar recently and get a decent practice session in so I'd be doing it to get back into that.
Does anybody here vape weed? I don't really know anything about it.
>>37962494
yeah its not true op. I drink and smoke daily and everything about them being detrimental to gains is bullshit to a degree.
>>37962693
>>37962789
I'll add on that the ONLY fucking time smoking weed is good, is if you're about to smash a bitch because it definitely enhances everything. Not that it'd apply to you permavirgin cunts though.
>>37962789
actually mirin bro
keep doing what you do
>>37962811
What is wrong about my post?
Please elaborate.
>>37962832
Showering while high is pretty fucking great too.
>>37962837
Fellow widehipbrah! you too bro.
>>37962813
You get super fucking high with a vape.
Personally I haven't done it lifting yet, but I do vape before my cardio and the feeling is great.
I bought into the meme and got a Magic Flight Box, but I have to say after 2 years I love the thing. I've even had the chance to compare it to an Arizer Solo and I still prefer the experience of using it.
>>37962850
a curse and personal struggle
>>37962789
i see nothing impressive here.
>>37962886
If you think that looks DYEL then nigga you need jesus
>>37962892
He just looks like a dude that's been lifting for 2 years.
>>37962693
What about vaping bruv? I agree that smoking is kak, but recreational drug use is part of being human.
>>37962915
Post your own pic bruv
And i'm all for recreational drug use, like i posted previously, i was a daily weed smoker for years until i did a few hits of LSD. I'll personally never touch anything other than a tab every few months now.
>>37961952
Nigga I'm on that sour every half an hour. God tier bulking supplement.
>>37962935
same here, I used to smoke weed, the moment I tried mdma I got my life together, went to gym, and got a relationship. Not even memeing you
>>37962957
Good for you.
>>37962957
Good on you anon, i was doing MDMA along with the weed for a while. That shit really takes a toll on your body though man which is why i prefer the LSD, i can do much more on it and still chill. Plus listening to music on LSD > MDMA.
If you're gonna take MDMA don't do it more than once every 3 months, that shit really does fuck you up bro.
>>37961952
Other than taking a toll on your lungs it doesn't do anything. In fact, working out while high feels good, I recommend trying it if you haven't already.
Pre-gym bowl
Go to gym
work out
shower up
head home
afterglow workout bowl
eat dinner
sleep
get gains
>>37961952
>dirty fingers
>oily sweaty hands by default
>shitty out of focus 8mp camera pic
>>37962935
Didn't say I was any better nigga, doesn't mean I can't criticise you.
Why deify one drug man? 3 years time you'll be drinking yage and saying
>I was a bi-monthly acid user for years but then I had a cup of Ayahuasca and now I just drink that once a year.
I remember when i first did acid kek
>>37962518
>If you can combine smoking weed with working out then its fine.
with personal benefit
>However with weed its easy to overeat, lose your motivation and like I told this >>37962438 anon, it will fuck up your sleep by not giving you optimal rest.
100% disagree with this. also if you are prone to being a lazy fuck then that is what you will be inclined to be like when on weed if in that mood. also the sleep post is ridiculous.
>But if you use weed as a reward for working out, so only smoking after a good workout and dont go to sleep high you can pull it off.
disagree with this 7th grade broscience.
>But we all know how easy it is to say fuck it I'll just go smoke some weed and work out tomorrow instead.
we all really don't know that.
>Its up to you if you can pull it off.
pull what off.
>>37962552
sorry to hear your own personal experiences has brought down your views on the substance. but speaking for others doesn't help your problem.
>>37963025
Don't drink alcohol, all tastes like shit and not a fan of the effects. And i've tried most other things already, i like lots of other people had a bad view on LSD which is why i never tried it earlier.
>>37962837
mini brock lesnar
>>37963055
Not even the same anon, nigga why you posing on an anon board? U FKN WOT!?!
>>37963055
Yage/Ayahuasca is a psychedelic brew.
Ok, man, whatever you say
>>37963037
No one cares
>>37962438
In people with Val158Met polymorphism weed use can induce, later in life, schizophrenia. Proven, studies, in vivo and in vitro. Happens.
Also fucks with GH secretion and as I recall from my dissertation, LH secretion (therefore testosterone) so it affects the IGF-1/GH axis and HPTA. Sounds great for gains.
Fucks sleep too, REM becomes messy. Weed is fine if you're on gear. If not, moderation is key, don't smoke every day.
>>37962552
Not showering or grooming yourself has nothing to do with smoking, breh.
People only lose respect for stoners over 21 that spend every day in their friend's mom's basement getting high and doing nothing.
Get a job, get good grades, go to the gym, and there will be nothing to lose respect over.
Lazy fucks blaming laziness on a substance they have total control over.
>Inb4 much genetics
>Inb4 I just want to do something with my life and weed is holding me back
Retards
>>37963037
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18313952
>>37962088
if weed is so bad then how did this guy get so ripped?
>>37962693
I dab 3 times or more a day. I started lifting 3 years ago and have made great progress.
>Implying your friends aren't just pieces of shit with no willpower
>>37962915
Your opinion means nothing lol, can't even post pic, fucking dyels.
I'm imagining your disgusting body slouched in front of a computer trying to tell someone they're not impressive over the Internet.
>kek
>>37961952
It's helped me.
Smoke after the gym and use the munchies to eat large portions of protein-heavy foods.
>>37962995
explain that bro
>>37963785
ofc roids would help you pleb
>>37963895
I hope this is bait and you aren't really this pathetic.
>>37963895
Are you trying to flatter me?
Just accept it you fucks
>you don't train correctly
>you don't eat correctly
>you don't recover correctly
No, you're right, it's the weed that steals your gains.
>>37962018
Kekkers m8 gud j0b. U rlly t0ld th3m huh? T0pz0z;)
>>37962841
You recover in deep sleep, rem is dream sleep not deep sleep. It's when your brain is most active
>>37961999
You must have a monstrous tolerance if you can dab and work out. Maybe consider a tolerance break?
>>37963050
Honestly this.
Everyone takes it differently.
Either you have the camp that don't have any self control and smoke like chimneys or you have the ones that do and smoke only after the excursions of the day are done.
I'm sorry to all the faggots here that can't stop for one day then all of a sudden think they're Aristotle in regards to how to budget smoking.
It's common sense niggers, yes or no, either you decide to put it down for now and give it a rest or smoke like you're D-O double at the Battlefield showcasing.
Plain and simple, now stop being degenerates, the lot of you.
>>37961952
If you're cutting, wouldnotreccomend/10
It can lead to gynecomastia in some people, when I went in to a doctor about mine he even asked if I smoked weed
>>37965146
Op here,Are you for real?
Can it go away cause I think I have it
>>37965101
last time I got really fucked up I did the same thing. I did all of my DB curls in one set and did the same thing with my tricep pulldowns
>>37961952
Yeah brain gains you fucking pothead wastoid.
>>37965146
Tru I injected one marijuana and I grew double D's
I haven't smoked in two weeks.
I have a really bad craving for it but I'm too poor for it right now.
>>37963118
oh fuck off
I'm a fit full time programmer, plenty of friends and two bitches to fuck. I smoke everyday and I still hate it. Instead of smoking I could be bettering myself. Its just like vidya or any other form of procastination. Smoking everyday shows low willpower
>>37962870
I'll check out the magic flight box, is it possible to do it wrong and carbonise stuff?
>>37961952
Smoking will affect your lungs.
The munchies affects your cut
Edibles are OK though
>>37962669
wha-- are you me? cause I have the same exact story as you
>Smoked every day senior year of college to take mind off stress of CS degree as well as some family health issues
>Feel my soul retreating into my body, can't connect with people like I used to, just become such an awful person that nobody would respect
>Take 2 acid tabs in the last month of school on a gorgeous sunny day, like a rush of pure life into my body, my soul starts to shine though, remember everything I used to love in life, realize what a fucking idiot I'm being, quit Mary J right then and there
Currently putting my life back together, trying my best to get back into the gym despite some mobility issues, no more porn or fapping, reading daily, meditating to clear mind, doing cardio like running and jump rope, learning music theory and composition,
truth is LSD shows you what I think is your best self and what your life could be, just for the duration of the trip, then its on you to build your life to achieve that spiritual high again, God bless brother I hope everything works out for you and the both of us and everyone trying to make it on /fit/ :^)
>>37966649
Smoke sativa, less likely to have munchies due to the stimulating effect.
I smoke it on a cut, rarely if ever hungry.
Ex-smoker here and lots of people saying it gives you better sleep. Not true for me. Always woke up feeling groggier.
>Too autistic to find a connection for dank kush
Just put me out of my misery already
FUCK OFF JUNKIE DEGENERATES!
Seriously kill yourselfs before your addictions get the better off you and you're forced to steal or murder to feed them.
Hemp weed is degenerate and disgusting and will make you stupid if you take it. When ur on weed ur an idiot - science.
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100% raw vegan Straight Edge calisthenics only FOR LIFE.
>>37966826
That's because it doesn't. THC lowers the quality of sleep like most other sleep drugs. Of course some sleep is better than none at all so insomnia is still a valid medical requirement for weed.
>not living in Boulder and having a literal menu of choices of weed to choose from sorted by THC content and strains
>not smoking a little before a gym session to loosen yourself up
>not coming home after a hard session and making a great cup of black coffee and packing a bowl of 29.5% Grapefruit Durban and firing up GTAV
Reevaluate your lifestyle, because mine is awesome
>>37961952
>wasting your money on this shit
>>37968572
Weed has actually introduced me to a lot of really cool people. Its a social thing for me.
Really makes you think...
Marijuana Said to Trigger Heart Attacks
http://news.harvard.edu/gazette/2000/03.02/marijuana.html
Marijuana Smoking Tied to Testicular Cancer
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/09/11/us-marijuana-cancer-idUSBRE88A03720120911
Marijuana Use and Risk of Lung Cancer
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23846283/
Persistent Cannabis Users Show Neuropsychological Decline from Childhood to Midlife
http://www.pnas.org/content/early/2012/08/22/1206820109.short
Review of the Validity and Significance of Cannabis Withdrawal Syndrome
http://ajp.psychiatryonline.org/article.aspx?articleid=177137#SEC6
Regular Marijuana Use Bad for Teens Brains
http://www.newswise.com/articles/view/621566/
Regular Pot Smokers Have Shrunken Brains, Study Says
http://www.latimes.com/science/sciencenow/la-sci-sn-regular-marijuana-shrinks-brain-20141110-story.html
Respiratory Effects of Marijuana and Tobacco Use in a U.S. Sample
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1525-1497.2004.40081.x/full
Smoking Cannabis Can Lead to Manic Behaviour
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2949585/Smoking-cannabis-lead-manic-behaviour-Hyperactivity-aggression-delusion-strongly-linked-drug-researchers-warn.html
Teen Marijuana Use Linked with Schizophrenia
http://www.futurity.org/teen-marijuana-abuse/
>>37968779
Teens Who Smoke Weed Daily are 60% Less Likely to Complete High School Than Those Who Never Use
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2014/09/09/study-teens-who-smoke-weed-daily-are-60-less-likely-to-complete-high-school-than-those-who-never-use
The Terrible Truth About Cannabis
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2782906/The-terrible-truth-cannabis-British-expert-s-devastating-20-year-study-finally-demolishes-claims-smoking-pot-harmless.htm
Casual use alters the nucleus accumbans, associated with reward and pleasure
http://www.healthline.com/health-news/casual-marijuana-smoking-linked-to-brain-changes-041614
The brains of chronic users produce less dopamine
http://www.biologicalpsychiatryjournal.com/article/S0006-3223%2813%2900502-7/abstract
Marijuana lowers IQ
http://www.forbes.com/sites/travisbradberry/2015/02/10/new-study-shows-smoking-pot-permanently-lowers-iq/
http://www.pnas.org/content/109/40/E2657.abstract
cannabis-impaired approximately doubles car crash risk and that around one in 10 regular cannabis users develop dependence.
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/add.12703/abstract
Marijuana induces schizophrenia-like brain changes, which may result in psychosis
http://psychcentral.com/lib/cannabis-may-cause-schizophrenia-like-brain-changes
http://www.livescience.com/17707-marijuana-thc-brain-psychosis.html
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/270262.php
Marijuana can cause pulmonary disease
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25624312
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24384575http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16729923
I take 1 hit once a week, usually after a long hard workout.
After I inhale I immediately take a shower and let my body fest in the warmth of the water. It feels so good day dreaming about life and my fantasy worlds I create. It helps with muscle relaxation and allows me to loosen up my muscles (jerking off high is the best thing ever).
