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big guy edition
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>be the autistic kid doing oly lifts
>"which Olympics are you training for?"
>y-you too
Kys
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>>37922995
>see awesome weightlifting webms on /fit/
>think to yourself "I'm going to do this!"
>go to gym
>embarrass yourself completely because you have no athleticism, skill, flexibility or will
>come home
>tears in your eyes, mountain dew in your hand
>see owg
>"you faggots will never go to the olympics!!!11!!"

give me those salty tears anon. you can't imagine how sweet they taste
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>>37922995
Build some muscle first before trying strength sports

Then try powerlifting once you become a man, bitch.
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>>37922976
Just cleaned 100KG, but having problems with the jerk, any advices ? Any specific drill?
I.E Pulls/Deadlifts/front squats helped with clean what will improve my jerk, please halp
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>>37923318
what phase of the jerk are you fucking up on?
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>>37923433
the last bit, i get the weight above my head, but i have struggles to push it out the last bit, because i am not fast enough i guess.
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>>37923598
Split wider and deeper
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>>37923598
WHen youre in the rack position, read to jerk.
1. Move your head back/out of the way. Like a girl sucking a cock moving her head back and forth, leave your head in the back position
2. bend at the hips, and push straight up
3. Also, you should be getting low and pushing yourself under the bar into a slplit

dont know where you are messing up, but the perfect jerk only has the bar moving the distance from the rack, to the max extension of your jerk. If you don;t move your head out of the wya, you'll end up pressing
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>>37923015
Hahaha gib him dem
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>>37923679
also, make sure you return your head to normal right after the bar passes yoru head in the jerk.

SOunds like youre pressing when yo ushouldnt
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I want trappy chan banned.

She literally spammed our old thread into the ground.

Please, everybody report her.
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>>37923755
>she
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>>37923768
I could give fewer shids.

Mentally she is more like a woman and I respect her less if I consider her as female, so it works.
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>>37923776
your hips shouuld rise with the bar
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>>37923755
>she
>he
You mean that mentally ill freak of a man.
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>>37923679
>bend at the hips, and push straight up
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>>37923863
power for the jerk comes from the hips

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ojp1Q1qZHY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=231&v=ZDDzuRviFKA
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>>37923788
You have no idea what you're talking about.
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>>37923964
is he not attempting clean pulls?
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>>37923989
with old blue shoes it's hard to tell
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>>37923989
He is stronger with the hips up, but he wants to pull with hips low. You can see hips hips go low before the pull, but shoot up before the bad budges. His hips don't really shoot up after that, even if they did, it's very difficult to tell from that angle.

Trappy-chan, stay out of this.

>>37924005
He is doing heavy clean pull without a shrug.
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>>37923900
Nah
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>>37924078
1st month wl senpai?
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>clean pulls are deadlifts
?????? LOL !
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>>37924114
Fuck off trappy-chan.
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>>37924160
I wanted to hit 300 points this year's nationals, but I only managed 297

I feel really bummed about it desu
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>>37924194
Why did i quote that post
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>>37924210
youre a dumbass.
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>>37924239
h-how did you know
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>>37924643
Sonny did well to make Rio. Happy for him.
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>>37925607
i hope he wears a snapback on the platform at the olympics for maximum banter
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>>37925780
He probably will he barely ever doesn't it's his 'thing'
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>>37924095

lol wat

All of the power for all of the lifts cones from the hips.
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>>37924095
solid response
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>>37923755

You know 4chan is an image board, right? Dumping images and videos has always been part of it.
It's not your blog or safespace. If you want that, try reddit.

Besides, I was asked to dump the webms.

>>37924078
>>37924160

Remember to check in your closet and under your bed as well, trappy-chan might be there just waiting to terrorise you during your sleep.
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>>37926031

kill yourself mental illness freak
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>>37924643
British weightlifting is a joke.

Pretty sure you can compete nationally with a 250 total at 94kg
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>>37926031
you got this entitled attitude since you started hanging out with plg trappy. They're no good for you. They don't love you. They want you to fail. Come back trappy chan. Come back.
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>>37926031
>>37926084
You can kill yourself but let us fuck you first.
rio?
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>>37924643
he has pretty amazing flexibility desu
that jerk is OB tier though
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>tfw want a legit deep massage
>tfw everytime I go i end up getting a handjob and a shitty massage

brehs help/
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>>37926945
go to a place that isnt run by asians

or like one that's more professional
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>>37926990
the closest one like that is booked all night
god damn it.

man I really want someone to massage me.
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>>37926271
ye my jerks are pree garb
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>>37927084
well i went, new masseuse, decent massage, happy ending.
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https://pentupwl.wordpress.com/2016/07/15/weightlifting-training-plan-dump/

Ill add description and more sometimes later


Snippets:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BzYwS_oe2_hyT09BRml5azNxbDg/view?usp=sharing
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>>37926990
no more lolis 4 u!
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https://youtu.be/pQTQZa-HEGQ?t=18m52s

dude the muscular development on this kid is fucking insane..... wtf?
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>>37928224

thanks babe
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>>37926031
>Being told to go back to Tumblr safe space by a tranny
>Soniamdisappoint.jpizzle
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>>37928893
1. overhead lighting
2. he's a manlet and extremely lean
3. he's on gear
4. he's been training his entire life
5. he has top 1% genetics
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>>37923776
is that 110kg?
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>>37929101
6. If he loses, his family dies.
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>>37929103
yeah
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>>37929108
please eat
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>>37925954
>all of the power
how fucked in the head does one have to be to actually type this out

>>37926007
>links two clips of lifters where you can see their very specific jerk technique

I'm not saying the hips aren't vital in the jerk, but you obviously extend several other joints ya gits
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if my back leg isn't bent enough in the split jerk can that cause knee issues?
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>>37929713

hy·per·bo·le
hīˈpərbəlē
noun
noun: hyperbole; plural noun: hyperboles
exaggerated statements or claims not meant to be taken literally.

The majority of the power comes from the hips. If you are trying to generate force with your soleus you are going to fuck yourself up.
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>>37929770

Death, even.
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>>37929991
but seriously though
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>>37929982
There's a pretty big lump of muscle between your hip and your shin m8
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>>37930223

Yes, and most of the power--the rate of work on the bar--in the lifts is generated by the lumps surrounding the hip carriage.
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>>37930257
The thing I'm actually against is the cue "bend at the hip". Lots of people miss out on explosiveness because they're not extending knees and ankles correctly
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>>37930257
>>37930286
Dunno what you guys are really talking about, but my coach said that i should only bend at the knees

"Just imagine putting your knees forward while staying on heels"
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>>37928656
Why ; ;
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>>37929104
epic meme murican
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>>37931597
lol that sounds like some real shit advice
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>>37931881
not good for you!
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>>37932646
but i think i dose properly
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>>37932798
Ur overloading on lolis. Need to slow it down
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>>37932986
are you calling me a junkie ?!?!?!
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/owg/ when are you going to fund an anime about cute girls doing cute olympic weightlifting things?
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>>37933057
I like bad lolis that's my fucking problem.

Lol Jk u and commi r fucked
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>>37933057
lolis are shit, tho I'd probably watch a 2d about oly lifters
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>>37933193
bad lolis can be dangerous durkz
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Most votes decides which Powerlift 2 color I buy
http://www.poll-maker.com/poll753540x0a7a09b4-30
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>>37930286

This makes sense to me. I don't think cues need to reproduce the actual mechanics of the lift for the lifter's imagination; they just need to get them to preform the lift correctly. If you're just yelling 'HIPS' at them they'll probably end up humping the bar or whipping it up and around their head rather than actually extending.
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>>37931597

For the jerk? Yeah, you shouldn't bend at the hips. There's more quad recruitment in the jerk, but you're still generating a great deal of the power from the extensors.
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did they draw a micro penis on martha

lmao
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>>37935089
>by tokyo 2020, she'll be unstoppable
amerifat delusion never stops being hilarious
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>>37935065
We usually have the cues "push on" and "straight up", doesn't have to be more complicated than that rly
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There's hope for all you lanklets out there
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>comp in a week
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>>37936449
Don't fuck up bro u need 240 don't u
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>>37935114

If drug testing doesn't stop advancing and she keeps up the progress I think she could do 110/140, maybe not good for a medal but top 5 is possible
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>>37936527
yeah
j-just don't bomb right hehe
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>>37922976
They are big guys.
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>>37937055
was getting a gold medal part of your master plan?
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Snatch is good.
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>>37937231
>that rounded lumbar
stretch you retard
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>>37937256
that's fat my dude
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I have trouble getting under my snatch.
I can power snatch more but when I try an get down into my full snatch i just cant get low and really drive back up.

Any tips or what kind of accessory work i should do or should i just deload and try again until i can get low?
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>>37936872
In 4 years? She already almost snatched 108 or something also missed 137
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applied at chipotle today lads, wish me luck
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>>37937279
>>37937256
I thought that was obv
don't listen to him blu shoes he is a meanie
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>>37937560
gl dood
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>>37937560
aw sweet dude
it's actually not that sweet tho cus i heard you get sick of chipotle quickly if you eat it every day for like a week
but ye gl
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>>37937747
i may get sick, but its free sickness + protein
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>>37933330
how dangerous?
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>>37937862
L E T H A L
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>>37937231
You focus too much on finishing your second pull. Because of that you start to get under the bar too late. Yes you should finish your pull, but you should also start to get under the bar. Now it looks like there's a big delay between your second pull and third pull, they are not connected.
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>>37937371
Post a form check if you really want help. But probably you are doing this too >>37938121
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>>37937903
doesnt look very intimidating tBh
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>>37938261
how about now?
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>>37937371
you probs just need to train more since thats a rookie mistake, you probs dont have a comfortable receiving position, usually power stuff is not recommeded for people who are new.
either that or it could be from the amount of weight you use for practice.
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>>37938398
I don't really do it intentionally I just don't feel comfortable going all the way down in the squat so I use less weight and just power snatch. Maybe I should be working OHS and worry about the actual snatch once that's set? I'm still pretty new to the sport and I'm doing it at a CF gym so the coaches aren't a whole lot of help.
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>>37938352
Your name is... no
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>>37938398
Pent senpai why does a 60kg snatch feel heavy when I can bs 150 and press 75
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>>37938485
beginners cant do full snatch because they are not familiar with the movement. if you keep doing power snatches, youre only learning power snatch.
i recommend warming up first with squatting with only the bar then doing full snatches with moderate weight.

>>37938722
for every weightlifting, only the amount of time you practice the movement will determine how much you lift. so back squat wont make your snatch go up a lot if you haven been practicing snatch as much as squat.

2 months ago my stats after training for couple months was:
clean:125 (felt ezpz)
bsq:190
fsq:145
clean dl:185x3
sn dl:165
conv dl:215x3 (with inzer belt)

but i only did:
sn:91
cj:105 (trouble with jerk)
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>>37939065
So just do heavy snatches and clean&jerk more often?
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>>37939150
ye
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>>37939293
pent if i tren 9 times a week how do i become not very sore

i am very sore tren 5 times but i need to get better faster
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>>37939497
you only have to pin tren twice a week at most my dude.
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>>37939570
u dont tren retard
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>>37938352
you disgust me you fake loli
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How do you get rid of the stretch marks?
I've gotten too big lads.
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>>37940141
i've heard drinking bleach clears stretch marks up
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>>37940141
that's it, I'm done with owg
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>>37940141
apply semen after your jerks
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>>37929770
maybe, but you WILL be limiting your potential, there's a reason that everyone bends their back knee anon
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>>37937025
110/130?
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>>37936872
Shell do more than that in 4 years. Probs 110/140 within the next year
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>>37938121
You should always finish pull. Transition and speed will come with time but don't short your pull
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since i got some quite helpful tips on my clean and jerk last time. can i get my snatch checked?
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So anons, what's the point of hookgrip?

why not just properly train your grip strength?
>not wanting CoC 3.0 monster hands
>not needing to hold back when giving someone a firm handshake becuase you'd otherwise break their hand

man up and stop using the memegrip, /owg/
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>>37941240
STOP LOOKING DOWN ITS NOT A DEADLIFT
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>>37941372
I know it's b8 but if you really don't understand that hook grip isn't just about grip strength ur a retard m8
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>>37941389
>trying to rationalize and justify ur utter lack of grip strength
laughable
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>>37941163
I didn't say that you shouldn't finish it, but what beginners so is focus too much on it, so that they don't start to go under it fast enough. This is why some coaches prefer to make beginners first "jump" under the bar a little, then tell them to keep feet longer on the ground etc, so that they learn to get under the bar rather than pull the bar high. I suggest doing few pulls first and then clean/jerk trying to focus on getting under.

And there's some guys in our gym that after two years still don't seem to understand how to get deep under the bar (self taught)
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>>37941463
Lol m8 found the dyel who doesn't know anything about lifting
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>>37941511
Getting deep is more about mobility. I agree you should work on transitioning to going under but a more effective way would be full lifts focusing on finishing pull as that's a harder thing to re-learn and then high blocks and high hang at relevant % to work speed under

Also ohs and snatch balance if you're uncomfortable in the receive pos
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>>37940141

why do you post this shit here
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>>37933994
where's the option for dont buy powerlift 2s they're shit get a shoe with a proper heel height
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>>37928893
how do I get this lean without losing strength
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>>37942188
Winnie
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Is black singlet the best for hiding outline of penis
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>>37943574

I would say no, cause if any amount of chalk touches the area (including the chalk on the bar), it's gonna make it really visible.
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>>37943615
Shut up
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>>37943574
Nah light blue 100%
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>>37941052
Yeah, goal is to make those in second attempt
That way if I miss I can try it again im 3rd attempt
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>>37943574

>Tfw Singlet is a great Halloween costume except for the tiny penis part
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>>37943792
Light blue shows it
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>>37937747

I'm gonna eat at chipotle 12x/month for the next 3 months to get that sweet sweet free catering. I pretty much already do that and I love it
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>programmed to do c&j triples 70%
>workan through sets, everything feels ezpz, like 60%
>finish, start unloading
>waddaminnuht
>had accidentally loaded 80%

Huh. Well.
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>>37945424
????????????????????????????????????
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>>37945588

I know, riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
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>>37945753
reported
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>>37945775

COBRAS
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What equipment should I get to train at home, tired of the monthly payment at my gym.

I need a squat stand/rack, bearing bar, 140kg bumpers for now.

As cost efficient as possible without sacrificing too much quality
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Just clean deadlifted 405. Finally matching my squat :/
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A champion is born.
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>>37946339
You just asked a question then answered it yourself
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>>37946339

Check out fringe sports. They have the best quality/price ratio for basic black bumpers, and they ship free. For the barbell you have several options. I would stick with domestic as it will save you several hundred dollars without any real noticeable difference in quality. I have the rogue oly bar and it suits me just fine. Your other options stateside will be MDUSA, American Barbell, Fringe, and Again Faster. I've heard great things about American Barbell and if I had to buy a new bar that's probably where I'd put my money. You don't really need a rack to start, just some 4x4s, a couple buckets, and about 120lbs of cement.
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>>37947058
>MDUSA
uhhh
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>>37947381

Their online store is still up.
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>>37947381
>>37947390

...or it WAS, the last time I checked. Oh well.
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>>37947910
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>>37947993
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>>37948265
;^)
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>>37948277
loli perv!
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>>37948412
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>>37948432
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>>37948477
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>>37948412
I'm not a perv!
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>>37948632
>I'm not a perv!
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>>37948754
i'd let her bully me
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>>37948819
Sounds like something a perv would say.
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>>37948960
that's weird because i'm not one of those
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>>37949001
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>>37949175
Are you badmouthing me!?!?!
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>>37947923
but why
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>>37949231
ye :3
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>>37949231
And what if I am? what are you going to do about big boy?
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>>37947993

imploding knees technique
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>>37949652
>>37949657

d-double bullying?!?

>>37949679
TRIPLE?!?!?!
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>>37949689
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>>37949689
I'm going to tickle you and hug you lots til you can't stop crying and and even if you tell me to stop, I won't and I'll keep going.

Get ready for hours of unbearable torture, oniichan.
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>>37949824
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>>37949891
Put the KEIT-AI down! NOW!

Otherwise I'll call my lolis friends to come down and give you an exponential increase in hugs and tickles. Don't even think this is an empty threat oniichan.
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>>37949927
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>>37947910
>>37947923
beauty
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>tfw seeing normie lifters talking about shit on fit

god it's so cringeworthy
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>>37949974
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>hey anon, get in here and massage my glutes

>if you don't clean double bodyweight tomorrow i'll make you blow me too, you little faggot
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>>37949974
>what seems to be the problem sir
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>>37950641
There's nothing suspicious going around here officier, just move aside and let us loli do our usual business.
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>>37950693
>STOP RIGHT THERE OR I WILL BLOW YOU THE FUCK OUT
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>>37950800
Oh yeah? You and what army?
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Hey folks, intermediate lifter here.

I'm looking for a strength program that includes oly lifts into it but can't seem to find one.

Should I just stick with a regular strength program and then pick up oly lifting again once I hit those elusive advanced lifts, or is there a program that'll still let me enjoy muh snatches?
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>>37951150
a weightlifting program is a strength program...
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>>37926031
>mfw people take lifting advice from a tranny

you can't make this shit up
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>>37952419
I don't care that she's a tranny. It's more that she constantly gives poor weightlifting advice. She's more useful in plg with beginner powerlifters, I don't think she's ever experienced how it is to lift under a coach and learn weightlifting other than via klokov videos
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>>37953106

She's not super useful in /plg/ either, as it happens.
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>>37951150
>Should I just stick with a regular strength program and then pick up oly lifting again once I hit those elusive advanced lifts

>expecting to become advanced by not doing it
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>>37953106
>>37953133

(s)he's a self entitled medical student who thinks (s)he knows everything about lifting because (s)he explains everything with big words
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>>37953229
Yeah, she reads some shit but has no idea how to apply it to real world situations
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If C&J 100kg in training, but I pressed out the jerk can I still say my best C&J is 100kg?
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>>37953386
call it a training PR
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>>37951150
Tech work every day (7x a week minimun)

Squat and pull heavy 3-4x a week or so (your bread and butter will be back squats and clean pull w/o shrug, aka the "clean deadlift")

After you squat and pull, do a little bodybuilding (2-4 excercises for 2-4 sets, reps between 8 and 15 is good, can go as low as 6)

You can do the press as a bodybuilding or strength lift, either for high or low reps. You can also toss in push pressing too (I'd reccomnd lower reps but you can go as high as 5 or 6).

Literally just technique work and specific strength and hypertrophy work As technique gets better you can do more technical/specific pulls (e.g. pull w/ shrug, high pulls).
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I keep messing up the clean when I add Weight I get under the bar but I catch it a little bit lower than the shoulders
And then it falls
How to fix
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>>37953106

Point out a single bad weightlifting advise I've ever given.

Good luck.
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>>37954961
>Advise
Haha not so fast chum
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>>37954961
The vast majority of it.

e.g. clean deadlift

But from your perspective you're right about everything, so why bother? In your eyes you have NEVER given bad advice before.
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>>37954961
?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
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>>37954961
Can u make a webm of 155 bench and 242 deadlift now Pls.
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>>37955248
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0GcOHGnnuw-Ykh6OE1MRnl5eEE/view?usp=drivesdk

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0GcOHGnnuw-cmZxbGE3ck9xZE0/view?usp=drivesdk
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>>37954961
When you told that kid to shorten his pull
Your whole shit about clean deadlift
'slide' is better than lifting feet
Lowbar is good for wl
Use straps instead of hook
Klokov is the best coach ever
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Did squats and btn press today desu
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>>37955454

Mad. Man.
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>>37954289
pls
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>>37955523
Learn to clean it properly. Can't asses the problem without a video champ
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post some sweaty qt3.14s
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>>37955945
why are literally all women whores?
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>>37955980
puberty does it
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So I just got home from the gym and I decided to do some over head squats after front squats. I warmed up with the bar then slowly increased weight and eventually got to 135.. I noticed my right thumb and pointer finger are numb it been about an hour and ya still numb. Is this normal? This was my first time doing over head squats btw
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These two fighting is funny

Both care barely squat 100kg

Bot wear ridiculous coloured shoes

Who wins? Blueshoes vs yellashoes
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>>37955945
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>>37956102
lol
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>>37955190

Clean deadlift = conventional deadlift when it comes to the mechanics
Only differences are that you'll use the grip width of your clean (which for many is the same grip width of their deadlift), and use weights that aren't too heavy, so that you can also mimic the positions of a clean.
Some weightlifters also prefer not locking out when doing clean deadlifts.

But the mechanics are the exact same.

Note that clean deadlift =/= clean pull

>>37955352

>When you told that kid to shorten his pull

Which I never did.

>Your whole shit about clean deadlift

Which is correct.

>'slide' is better than lifting feet

Feet always lift, even when sliding.

>Lowbar is good for wl

It is just as good as highbar, and both are worse than front squats.

>Use straps instead of hook

I never recommended anyone to do that.
Regardless, many of the olympic-tier weightlifters use straps all the time during training.

>Klokov is the best coach ever

I never said that.
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>>37953106

Now, while you can disagree with the facts that I've pointed out >>37956488

Your point is that I give "bad advise for weightlifting".

However, I never advised anyone to do lowbar.
I never advised anyone to use straps instead of hook.
I never advised anyone to do deadlifts instead of clean deadlifts.
I never advised anyone to shorten their pull.

And thus, your claim is literally incorrect.
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>>37956488
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>>37955248
>>37955276

ok just a second
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>>37956786
>>37955248
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>>37956786
>>37956813
how tall r u durkz?
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>>37956102
One guy is injured and the other has Down syndrome. Which has it worse?
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>>37956488
Blah blah I don't care anyway I have an actual coach and actually lift
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>>37956925
Injured and weak or weak cos injured
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>>37956963
https://instagram.com/p/BG-xvoLxMw1/ Kek
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>>37956924
He's a quarter inch short of being 6 feet tall.
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>>37956981
Blue shoes has an incredible bottom position though. Close to Lu tier.
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>>37957011
Mein sides
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>>37957011
>>37957028
He will get into his groove soon enough. He has an incredible coach.
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>>37957037
>>37957011
>>37956954

trip on blueshoes
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>>37957011
>>37957037
Kill yourself cancer
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>>37957051
>Disagree with trappy
>Must be blueshoes

Fucking ego in here baka senpai
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>>37956786
>>37956813

Not bad, bb. You should shave, tho.
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>>37957051
?????
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>>37957357
this is me
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>>37957068

Oh sorry, I just assumed you were him from the level of shitposting.
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>>37958036
>Disagree with trappy
>Must be shitposting

Yeah the ego really is strong holy fuck
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>>37958036
goals
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>>37958317

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem
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>>37958409
Lol your ego is out of control

Trappy-ego is ur new name now
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does anyone remember what it was like before trappy chan attention whoring every fucking thread?

it was still shit but hey, it was better
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>>37956786

this is the perfect DLing technique for oly lifters
everyone should see this example who want to be good
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>>37958441
>>37958543

Trip on blueshoes
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>>37957414
hi commie
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>>37958740
o/

you should give me your steam or something
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