fuck going to the gym
>>37912770
Well, with a lot of hard work and effort you can look like a guy who's been going to the gym for 3 months, but only if you have good genetics.
the kind of body that makes people ask you if you're hungry
>>37912795
gud1
>>37912795
I bet i already look better than you mr snarkypants
Check em
But seriously, could I get a solid ottermode going?
Pretty good
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kGoGFsLi1Q
>>37912770
literally every soldier's body, google you retard. I'd recommend at least buying dumbbells
>>37913034
if you dont want to add mass go for it
>>37913082
I want mass but only like 20-25 pounds of fat/muscle
Im 5'8.5 and 140 pounds right now
>>37913100
dood, you obviously ran in to some jacked black guy who just does muscles ups all day. well i assure you that guy still killed it in the gym for years before doing all bodyweight shit. if you wanna add muscle dumbbells and barbells are the best and most efficient way to do so.
also 20-25lbs is a huge amount of muscle to gain and your a faggit if your goals include putting on fat
>>37913034
>isn't even ottermode yet
>"I bet i already look better than you"
>>37913161
>black
???
cuckpost discarded m8
>>37913162
obviously a joke, but I have a 9/10 face so honestly i probably do
>>37913100
>fat/muscle
are you an ugly chick?
>>37913161
You're really underestimating how much bodyweight exercises can do.
Go ahead and try to do a planche. No, it's not a skill that you have to learn. You're just not strong enough to do it.
>>37913232
I wanna gain a lot of weight and I know that its not gonna be all muscle, simple as that.
I still want visible abs
>>37913262
>planche
didnt Justin Trudue do that?
>>37913287
>didnt Justin Trudue do that?
no idea
If he can then he's extremely fit.
Another exercise that's easy to try is a front lever.
>muh core is strong enough from muh squats
>>37913313
Is this it?
>>37913287
I just googled it. That's not a planche. Your arms have to be completely straight and elbows locked out.
>>37913287
>>37913330
>didnt Justin Trudue do that?
no that was an elbow lever, much much easier
>>37913189
If you had a legit 9/10 face you wouldn't bother working out.
>>37913345
How would you know how having a 9/10 face is like? oh thats right you dont, fuck off uglet
>>37913345
That doesn't make any sense.
>>37912770
>>37913100
>>37913262
OP, lemme lvl with u
body weight exercises are good if you wanna loose weight, or maintain and lower bodyfat. but pumping iron is the best way, if you wanna gain the 20-25lbs you mentioned.
also diet is more important then anything if you wanna go up to 165
>>37913390
Yeah, if all you want are big muscles as quickly as possible then weights are the way to go.
If you want to get there more slowly but become more fit overall then go wtih bodyweight.
Do both if you aren't retarded.
Bodyweight fags are just as much cancer as vegans.
>m-muh superior funkshonal strength
>tips fedora
>>37913404
rigth right, but 25lbs of muscle is a shitton for a nattfag
>>37913414
>Landwhale detected
>>37913414
>can't do basic bodyweight exercises
>I-I'm so fit. M-Muh benchpress and deadlift with 0 mobility or balance.
>>37913440
Ironically enough fat people who stick to dedicated bodyweight see the best results starting out.
>>37912770
This guy claims he is natty and uses only bodyweight.
He's got a youtube channel.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCRG_IQW6Yw5JmtTlKz8PBcg
>>37912770
You can actually get pretty big and very strong with basic and some mid level calisthenics exercise.
Problem is that most people just...burn out or give up before they can get to that level.
>>37913793
you can actually get pretty big and strong naturally with weights and just like 8 exercises.
Problem is that most people just...burn out or give up before they can get to that level.
OH WAIT
>>37913934
So what you're saying, you people who claim that you can in three months get what the average bodyweight guy can get in 2 years, is that lifting weight is for fags.
Right?
Cause...if most people who got to the gym get nowhere even though they'll get better then every person who does bodyweight in a matter of months..then that doesn't say anything good about people who primarily lift weight or their mentality.
Calisthenics
+ Cheap. You can literally go to a playground or your garage and do a work out for free.
+ Easy on your joints.
+ Harder to hurt yourself than using weights since failure usually just means you drop a couple inches onto the ground and don't have hundreds of extra pounds on top of you.
- Won't gain strength as quickly as you would with weights.
- Won't gain as much strength as you would with weights.
- Can't get as big as you could with weights.
Weights
+ Quickest way to gain strength.
+ Only way to reach your maximum potential strength.
- Eventually wears on your joints the as the years go by and the weight increases.
- Easier to hurt yourself than if you were using calisthenics.
- Either have to buy a home gym or a gym membership.
Both can give you a FANTASTIC physique if you watch what you eat and continue progressively increasing weight load/exercise difficulty.
I have said this before, but I firmly believe that anyone who is thinking about becoming fit should always start a calisthenics routine before going to a gym. They need to be sure they can stick to a routine for a few months before buying a gym membership; no point in buying one if you go there twice and then forget all about it.
>>37912770
You won't get huge but you can get pretty big by normie standards. My girlfriends brother is in the circus and he does the hanging trapeze. All he does is bodyweight exercises and he's fucking jacked. pic related isn't him but this is the kind of shit he has to do. I guess he has to lift his partner around too though but he does solo stuff as well. He told me he doesn't lift free weights at all.
>>37912770
something like that, I guess
>>37914210
HAHA EPIC RESPOSNE BRO XXXXDDDD
>>37914050
>Calisthenics
>+ Easy on your joints.
fucking lol
Go do a deep planche lean for 30s and see how that feels.
>>37912770
The bottom line is do both. For 99% of people the gym is a vanity fair more than anything else. Calisthenics is more like a sport.
The cross over from the gym will have really nice transfer to bodyweight stuff. But don't go for vain reasons
>>37914210
>those feet
>>37915523
He'll be fine if he properly progresses up to planche leans.
I've been doing only body weight stuff for a few years now and I have notably more muscle than some of my friends who go to the gym. But I think I work out more than them
why you just don't do weighted calisthenics once gains stops?
like, weighted pull ups, weighted tricep and chest dips, archer pull ups and the like?
buy a par of dumbbell and throw them into a backpack and you have enough weight for some months
>>37915523
>Go do a deep planche lean for 30s and see how that feels.
Then do upside down push ups or pike push ups for your shoulders.
You don't HAVE to do planche leans, you know...
>>37915863
Buy a pair of rings when the gains slow down.
>>37915926
If developing straight arm strength isn't one of your goals then you don't have to do it obviously.
Bodyweighting is okay but professional bodyweighters are fucked in the head
>>37913625
T H I S
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>>37915985
>Gymnasts
>fucked in the head
What is easier not to fuck-up form-wise: bodyweight exercises or weights?
I'm having a look at some bodyweight exercises and seem fairly complicated.
>>37916040
Weights
With each bodyweight progression you're learning a different movement.
>>37916040
Weights, easily.
I knew a guy who tried to do body weight squats on his first day, legit ended up in the hospital.
>>37912770
just fucking lift you fag
>>37912770
Theres no real way to tell. Some people respond better hypertrophy wise to bodyweight then others. Pic related is possible with good training.
>>37912795
Idiot.
>>37913034
Absolutely
>>37913414
Muh deadlift
Muh binch
>>37915863
You could and you should. But most of all you should be progressing to more difficult exercises like 1 arm pull ups not just gains.
>>37915762
Pics
>>37913060
>literally every soldier's body
well I guess you aren't technically wrong
>>37916131
Nah bruh. My body isn't anything to brag about and I don't cut or anything so everyone on /fit/ will just call me fat
>>37913785
Damn that video about the added weight where he was showing his leverage techniques..god damn that's some real strength
>>37916048
>I knew a guy who tried to do body weight squats on his first day, legit ended up in the hospital.
Wtfamireading
>>37913345
Totally, that's why the most handsome guys on hollywood are either fat or skinnyfat, right?
>>37916119
OP here, thanks nice post
I dont know but bw guys rarely post their photos in here or in bb.com so i think the people who shill for it are guys who have done it less than a year.
>>37916663
Most people who frequent fitness forums only care about weightlifting and muscle mass. BW guys would just get laughed at for being "small".
Most people who do BW don't care that much about their physique.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95D7lj-A6tA
>>37916663
Im the >>37916119 shilling for bw.
I have my avi in bb.com but i dont really discuss it there since there are very little fitness discussions there in general.
Also lots of bw people on ig have very good physiques.
>>37912770
Can't you do almost anything with a squat rack, bench, and dumbbells? That stuff doesn't take that much space, find that shit used for cheap.
>>37916701
Are there any bw forums?
Would like to take a look
>>37916768
All that stuff will cost you more than a bodyweight set up and no you cant alnost do anything.
Although if you just wanna lift and look good i guess you could.
>>37916775
I think reddit has some but idk ive never looked at it but youtube and instagram have a ton of good bodyweight shit.
>>37916701
Id snap you in half
>>37917957
hot
Honestly it's probably best to mix free weights and bodyweight movements together, why not get the best of both worlds and hopefully achieve your results quicker?
I mean you can still use purely bodyweight movements and then eventually add external weight to those movements when you progress further, but it takes time and a good amount of dedication.
https://www.instagram.com/fitnessfaqs/?hl=en
Take this guy for example, built his body through bodyweight movements and eventfully added external weight on top of his bodyweight. Bare in mind this took him 9 years. 2012 is probably when he got that much mass, the cutting he's only recently done for the like the last year.
>>37912770
>fuck going to the gym
hahaha fuck YOU m8
>>37916119
Pic related is probably a professional and getting a physique even similar to his requires steroid use.
>>37912770
I don't do any bw work outs (aside from push ups, bw dips, and pull ups on off days) but I'm sure you could get a decent body from just bw exercises. Legs would be harder to do but it's still very possible to build them to a nice size I'm sure.
Someone post a good bodyweight routine.
I can't go to the gym until uni starts so might as well make my self feel like less shit.
>>37918614
You are honestly retarded
>>37918580
Idk i googled "gymnast physique" and downloaded the cutest athlete.
>>37918601
This is true but if you want upper body gains and strength bodyweight is really good. You can build good legs with bodyweight that are definetly way stronger than normie legs but you cant come close to the leg strength of powerlifters or olympic weightlifters.
The upperbody strength you can build with bodyweight is a whole different story.
>>37916146
Yeah the definition was changed to annoy people with asperger's.
>>37918626
Are you sure I'm not literally retarded or at least deceptively retarded?
>>37918614
This>>37918626 wasn't meant for you m8, it was directed towards this autist >>37918580
>>37913414
Where did you go to get your face on a zippo lighter?
>>37918614
Here what i do and im >>37916701
Basically ill do a pull exercise, a push exercise, a leg exercise and a core exercise and that is on set. So ill do that for 3-5 sets. Its kind of like circuit training except with a differnt goal amd you rest as needed between exercises. Also reps depend on the difficulty of the exercise.
I hope this makes sense
>>37918626
Why is that?
I guess a good mix between weighttraining and bw is recommendable.
What I find repelling with bw exercises is that pretty much all of them feel extremely weird in my shoulders, especially in the front-delt area. Anyone else has this?
>>37918635
I feel like that dude must have good genetics but I don't feel it's unobtainable natty, the vascularity makes him look better and he doesn't have too much of body mass.
>>37918652
Thanks for the info, I would definitely need a hardset program to follow at first, like a SS for bodyweight, since I know nothing of it and would probably fuck myself over.
>>37916048
kekd
>>37913785
>black guy
>natty
Good one.
"Black genetics" is a codeword for "steroids".
>>37918631
well this is how language changes over the centuries, we are gonna find a word that has the proper meaning of 'literally' and then the words primary meaning will go down the drain.
>>37916048
Was it that guy who wore jorts and sandals to the gym and tried to literally squat his own bodyweight (in weights) his very first day working out?
>>37918724
aaaaaand ruined the joke
>>37918714
Srs if you look at the average nigger in other parts of the world, they are average sized. I understand that they're retarded and don't have a lot of food, but even the well fed ones are just fat and limp wristed like the average westerner
>>37918661
Im not gonna make a program for you but just focus on these exercises.
Dip
Push up
Pull up
Leg raise/L-sit
Squat
These will be the foundation to everything.
>>37918822
are horizontal rows a meme?
>>37918841
No but as a beginner you will be able to just do it with your legs supported and assuming you can already do pull ups it will be too easy.
Once you get better do rows with your knees tucked but now i dont think its necessary.
>>37918660
I hear some noise from my right one :/
A slight cracking noise
>>37918660
Either form or immobile.
For example if you do pull ups completely vertically your shoulders will feel weird. You need to retract scapula etc etc
>>37919107
Nothing to worry about just make sure theres no muscle or mobility imbalances.
My brother had the same thing and it went away over time.
>>37913330
That's a yoga position or elbow lever. A planche is much, much harder, to the point where you'll be among the strongest men in the world if you can do one while being above-averagely tall and not skinny.
>>37918714
This.
>Drugs are easily available in the ghetto
>Roids aren't
This is what the average white American actually believes.
>>37918629
>>37918635
Stay delusional and keep buying those supplements.
>>37919152
True. I did it easily without being too good at bodyweight a while ago. Its especially easy with a table.
>>37919210
What?
>>37919121
Yeah I know, pull ups are just fine. What I was referring to are exerises like a pseudo-planch-pushup or even just pushing your body away from the floor (in a seated position). Dunno, the tension these movements create in the shoulder is just so different from e.g. benching. Feels extremely weird, almost like my shoulder will simply break. It doesn't really hurt, but it's keeping me away from doing even slightly advanced bw stuff, even though I'd probably be able to do them strength-wise.
>>37919250
Its just you arent used to it. Especially as you mean more into the planche position. Your delts are suppoused to be strong eough to support your whole body by the end and theyre very small muscles so its difficult.
>>37919274
>mean
Meant to say lean
>>37919250
That's how you know weight training results in muscular imbalances and doesn't hit everything the right way. Not saying that everyone should be able to do a planche, but a plance lean shouldn't feel bad, just exhausting.
>>37919274
So basically I should simply do it more often to get the shoulders to adapt? Well, okay. Guess I'll include some heavier bw stuff into my shoulder session.
>why not both body weight AND weight training
OP here, i expected more pics desu im disappoint
>>37918550
:^) gymcuck
>>37920293
No gyms, dumbells ok
>>37918822
Shouldn't chin ups be in the list too?
>>37916701
I've been lifting for 1.5 years, but only about 6 months of solid diet and training. I've always been curious about bodyweight exercises. What's your routine or are there any reliable sources you could point me to?
We did a lot of BW shit in cross country, but we never progressed.
>>37916701
You have a healthy, maintainable, functional, and attractive physique. Good work.
>>37918614
1.) Leave this shithole of unhealth
2.) Go to Reddit/r/bodyweightfitness
3.) Do the recommended routine and diet
4.) ...?
5.) Profit!
>>37912770
Sharing this post from another thread, I hope this settles the whole BW v. weights confustion... it's all a matter of time and whether you want to build strenth all over or just in the major muscle groups.
Your joints, tendons and smaller muscles play a heavy role in bw, and those are almost always the weak link that prevents progression into real bw exercises, even when your larger mucsle groups are already strong enough.
This is why it takes longer to build up big muscle groups doing bw, because you must build tons of strength in your tendons, joints and smaller muscles first, so you can apply more leverage to the bigger muscles.
Hope that makes sense.
>>37922775
Thanks, so i think bodyweight would be best long term
Does free weights goos supplement to BW?
>>37921007
I do >>37918652 but ill soon be puutting up a video to make it easier to understand.
>>37920293
If you want.
>>37920855
No. Pull up and a chin up work the same muscles except with a pull up you can transfer into muscle ups or other moves.
>>37922775
This is true. As i said before some exercises require you to put your whole weight on small muscles like delts.
>>37918735
Black Americans are the result of selective breeding by the slave owners.
>>37922343
I don't trust a place just for bodyweight nor do I care to take nutrition advice from a place about exercising.
>>37925288
Dont. I imagine their advice will be really bias as well.
Look up "calisthenicsmovement" on youtube. One of the best channels for bodyweight training.
>>37916119
You're fucking deluded if you don't think gymnasts don't train with barbells and dumbbells.
>>37925583
Im not a gymnast myself but my cousin was for years(he was the classic manlet gymnast) and he never touched a barbell in his life.
>>37920761
Are you seriously using the word 'gymcuck' ? What's wrong with you man ?
Jesus fuck this board is going to dark places
