Any anons would like to share their stories of how they were beta at first and are slowly becoming alphas, or are alphas, and guidelines on how they achieved so?
I am on my way to slowly becoming an alpha.
>been reading books such as: Models, No More Mr. Nice Guy and 99 Attractive Traits That Drive Women Crazy (actual good book, seems like a clickbait title)
>work out
>eat relatively clean
>started saving money instead of buying useless shit
>dress well mostly
>more outgoing, not afraid to speak my mind
>slowly entering "healthy competition" with the alphas in my neighborhood, no longer just being on the sidelines
>don't waste time doing things that I don't really like (playing vidya), still watch TV tho but I enjoy it and alphas do whatever the fuck they want
>healthy self-image
>try to stay organized
>tfw still 21 yr old kissless virgin
Last date I had was before I started reading those books, they've helped me a lot. One last thing missing I feel is I need a girl however then again, I shouldn't think this way
Any anons want to share their experiences, as we help each other become better men?
>>37882169
>alphas do whatever the fuck they want
like being beta?
>>37882169
I don't think you're alpha op
But keep at it, I'm sure you'll figure something out eventually
>Get bullied during highschool
>Become a dick
>Find a girl during a trip, we hit it off
>Be a dick to her
>Hurt her quite a lot without even realizing
>She sticks with me because she has low self steem and is psychologically a mess
>Get taught how to not be a dick
Was a fun ride
>be absolute beta
>believe in feminism and other sjw bullshit
>go on /pol/
>mind explodes
>start doing pull ups every day
>start boxing
>start lifting weights
>be a real man
>other men intimidated by me
I'm tired of betas trying to be something they are not. You were born a submissive bitch that was only put on this planet to follow and do as the alphas say. Just know your role and accept it.
>>37882169
Who gives a shit about being alpha if you don't approach? OP pls.
>>37882169
Nice cringe op
Being alpha is about doing whatever you want and leading other people to accept that. You dressing nicely and trying to look good is just conforming. Try again.
>>37882169
I'm going to be joining boxing too, how did that go for you in terms of confidence?
>>37882244
True that, uni is starting in the fall, will be heading with the right mindset
>>37882246
>>37882207
this was meant for you
>>37882244
You're right, but that's why I said mostly, and also when I say dressing well I don't mean spending hundreds on clothing but rather quality clothing that fits well and doesn't look like you live in your mom's basement
>>37882169
>tfw still 21 yr old kissless virgin
because everyone can sense when you view women and social interaction as some game to play and level up in. chill and just enjoy it
>>37882207
/pol/ redpilled you into disliking "feminisim and other SJW bullshit" just by calling you a cuck?
>>37882274
That's a good point, what I really do suck with is the touching part, because it's only with touching I feel that you can really let them know you're interested
At first I was very shy at the gym. I dared not shower publicly. I also tried to tunnel vision in locker rooms. After associating with some bigger gym rats who took me under their wingspan, I started feeling more certain of myself and my purpose. It took an entire year before I dared stripping naked in front of my bros. Another few months before I felt comfortable sharing a shower. I can say that I am making big progress daily, feeling more and more certain of my role in the group.
>>37882365
ok weirdo
>>37882365
On your way to becoming a quick ; )
>>37882467
"Qt trap" fucking auto correct
>>37882365
So fucking gay
>>37882169
I went through this phase a few years back
>read the most common self help books known to man
>watch free rsd videos or read their old blogs (years ago i dont follow this shit anymore)
>somehow develop this dysfunctional mentality of needing women, trying to impress or please myself, validating more bs and blah blah blah
after spending of few years in that phase here is my conclusion... No amount of pua routines or self help will help you with women and women are anything but the answer you think they are. They will cause more of a mess in your life just like most other people. You'll be lucky if you can find one solid partner that has got your back. A majority are out for themselves
Pua can't help you attacrt women either. You're either attractive to them or youre not. So stick to the basics that have been around before pua... Take care of yourself, have an income, move out from your parents house, dress nicely, don't act like a douchebag, be presentable to friends and family.
Das it mane. Its that fucking simple that nobody needs to waste time or money on pua or self help shit with women. That crap is all in your head.
>>37882169
Hey OP, I'm looking at the latest book you named, but I could only find "99 Bad Boy Traits That Instantly Attract Women". Is this it?
>>37882169
I cucked an old co-worker after only a year of solid lifting, girl was fucking smoking too.
Then I ended up banging an ex-boss of mine.
One was a pixie, the other thicc white girl with freckles who used to do track and field and had the muscles for it.
Thanks /fit/
>depressed/very lonely/miserable
>got into lit and also read some self-help books to see about becoming more social
>learn to appreciate myself more
>finally getting comfortable with who I am
>anxieties have gone down drastically
>steadily realizing I no longer need the approval of other people, or need materialistic things, to make me happy
>life is taking on a lighter tone and becomes less serious/stressful
>turning into even more of a recluse than I was before, but happier now
Welp, that wasn't the outcome I was expecting, but I'll take it anyway.
>>37882692
As long as you're happy does anything else really matter
I'm a beta and has been always been a beta. I started lifting and exercising not to transition from timid-introverted to asertive or anything like that, in fact, I like being how I am, even if i know there are a lot more perks to being in the other side. The main drawn of being an "alpha" is sucess with girls and you might not notice it, but there are plenty of girls who like and preferr quiet, shy, bookish guys.
Be yourself anon, dont try to turn into something you don't are, just aim to be a better version of yourself and keep improving.
>>37882244
I wanna dispel this misconception that being 'alpha' somehow makes you able to do whatever the fuck you want or get away with anything. One of the distinctive traits of masculinity is recognizing and accepting responsibility.
>>37882246
>>37882246
its awesome mate
scary at first because you're going into a gym full of straight up alpha cunts
even scarier when you actually start sparring and you get rocked which you inevitably will
but when you actually start getting a bit of skill it's awesome knowing that you can actually defend yourself. being trained to fight makes you a better fighter than basically everyone. also you will cop so many beatings that you will realise fights really aren't scary at all.
would recommend
I can't be alpha, I'm 5'7
>>37882692
People pretend like being a loner is a baf thing, but it's not if that's what makes you feel comfortabele. I love my friends and family, but I also need alone time to function normally. And that's fine.
don't read books about being alpha etc.
i know alot of mates who started watching videos and reading books and now they are depressed because they think every woman is a slut and they lost Motivation for life.
of course its bad to be a beta but being alpha and fucking or trying to fuck every girl you see wont make your life better trust me.
just be a mix of a nice dude and behave 'alpha', dont run after woman, dont lose your own opnion etc
>was beta, bullied in school, no gf during teens all that shit
>get college degree and start in a small firm that grows really fast
>I'm forced to do presentations, travel around, speak with customers,live and manage projects abroad like China, Russia, Brazil
>shit was stressful as fuck but I observed my boss and learned from him
>dude worked like a motherfucker and still went to the gym and running a few times a week
>asked him how he can manage to do that and he said it is how he 'refuels', gym/running is what he enjoys and needs to not go crazy
>started doing the same shit
>do this shit for almost a decade, I'm 30 now
>I got fit, confident, wealthy
So guess how my situation ist today?
>probably 90% of the people who bullied, ignored or friendzoned me failed
>women lost their beauty, guys married those women, got kids, divorced, debt all over the place
>only a few people managed to get a career and seem to live a happy life with house, family and kids
>but all them have one thing in common, they still talk shit behind my back (even the those with a happy life)
>'Anon changed, he is such a showoff'; 'All he do is work, he's living such a lonely life'
>the same people talking shit behind my back try to get something out of me if I visit my hometown and meet them in a bar or somewhere else
>'we should hang out', 'Hey Anon step by and buy a new car/insurance/furniture, I'll give you a good price', 'Hey Anon I thought about applying to your company, maybe you could put in a good word for me?'
>women flirt with me, think they could still manipulate me like they used to do, even married women contact me on facebook to catch up
>none of them is as attractive as thy used to be
>>37883993
I had revenge fantasies. Fuck these bitches and never call them back, show off in sports car, even beat the shit out of a few guys.
I never had time to do it and nowadays I don't even care. Why would I fuck one of these bitches if I can score a beauty (Russian women are phenomenal, best sex I ever had was with a brazil prostitute)? Why should I fight these guys and risk a lawsuit? At the end I'm going to pay these idiots money they could not earn in years.
What I'm trying to say is forget about what happened. You are wasting your time thinking about this shit.
I have no time for this shit. I prefer to spend money on my travels instead of showing off in a sports car I could probably drive only for a few months every year. It would be a waste of money.
>>37882585
I have to disagree with you on one small point
Getting experience with women will increase your confidence and solidify your sense of self-worth
I think that No More Mr. Nice Guy is really spot on with a lot of its analysis and for a certain subset of the population, getting some experience with women can help to make guys feel as though they no longer have to justify their own existence and agency
Not saying PUA is the way to do it
Both long-term isolation and the PUA lifestyle are psychologically damaging
>>37882169
Alphas are born not made.
>>37884170
Beta detected
I had this phase, here's how it played out:
Was kissless virgin, read the fuck out of PUA shit and RSD. I think it's good stuff but even though it's better than the "old" pua trickster stuff it's still pretty damn shallow. It's the best possible material for finding women who fuck on the same day you meet them.
Now I'm looking for a woman who is virtuous enough to dedicate my main human relationship to.
If you're feeling over RSD stuff I'd recommend Stefan Molyhneux's stuff on relationships, it seems really sound for someone rational
>>37883993
Seeing as you can't let go of what other people think of you, just get a gun and kill them all. That way they can't think about you anymore!
>>37882656
>things that never happened
>>37884281
Not anymore see >>37884028.
Read Eckhart Tolle, but ignore the spiritual bullshit.
>>37884257
>Now I'm looking for a woman who is virtuous enough to dedicate my main human relationship to.
sometimes I wonder if people here realize just how fucking autistic they sounds. Jesus. No wonder you can't get a girlfriend.
>used to be skeleton, shy, not autistic but not especially sociable, hung out with the same group of dude friends
>fast forward five years
>been lifting, socialising more, generally chilled my shit
>sat around a camp fire with a bunch of girls and one dude, just met most of them that night while camping on the beach
>start describing first impressions of each other, some dumb game that one of the girls got started
>every single person uses the word 'manly' in describing me
People's first impressions of me are now that I'm manly. I never thought that would happen in my lifetime and in my head I'm still a shy semi-beta skeleton.
>I am on my way to slowly becoming an alpha.
>>tfw still 21 yr old kissless virgin
You're pathetic. LOL
>>37884257
Is there anything specific from RSD that you read?
>>37882365
>And another few months before I felt comfortable sharing a bed. We have kids now.
>>37882596
Ye that is it
>>37884417
Damn that's a good one!
I know a guy whose girlfriend cheated on him for years
he was cucked basically...
and then one day he killed her, strangled her to death
now he is in prison doing 12 years
is that alpha?
>>37882169
Go outside your comfort zone wherever possible, talking to strangers about situational stuff is the best place to start. Go out whenever you're invited out unless you have a legitimate serious reason why you can't.
>>37882207
Same here desu although /pol/ has its limits. Embracing your masculinity and patriotism and so on is good but I got into the moralfag side of /pol/ too and would avoid going out drinking and clubbing because I thought it "degenerate" and fucked my already less than mediocre social life up because of it. Replacing /pol/ with misc fixed me.
You don't "become" alpha, you're either born one or doomed to a life of betaness.
>>37886413
>posts a picture that literally disproves what he says
why?
>>37882783
That's kind of the point. You choose to do whatever you want because you know you can deal with the consequences, ie you're not afraid to do what's necessary to live the way you want to.
>>37883993
Are you currently offering any internships desu?
>>37882175
this sentence is so unbelievable cringy, it actually hurts
>>37882231
Listen here you 4ft nothing cunt. I will rip your scrawny neck out with my left nipple and ram a barbell down the hole and while everyone is gathered around laughing I will piss on your corpse.
If thats ok with you ofc :)
>>37886037
alpha as fuark
>>37882231
>Implying your alpha
That's the thinking of a straight up beta
>>37882169
>reading books on how to act normally in social interactions
how much of a fucking loser are you?
Bitter people who think that casual sex and being big enough to intimidate people are alpha traits are never going to make it
Alpha isn't an act like a pair of shoes you put on or take off. It's a mating strategy.
If you're alpha girls want to fuck you and leave.
Beta is another legitimate mating strategy. If you date a girl a few times, getting to know her impress her, convince her you're sexy and then fuck on the 3rd date, your beta strategy is working.
just remember, you cant read your way into being attractive
put the work in at the gym, stop reading PUA shit.
>>37884285
Stay salty my betafriend.
>>37882169
You're still beta autismo as fuck m8.
>>37882169
I just tried to get my right arm into that position and it was extremely uncomfortable
Dude has god tier flexibility
>>37882169
Me becoming a beta was a self fulfilling prophecy I guess? I've been a science nerd (current STEM fag) since middle school, so I just assumed that I was supposed to act like the other guys that were good students (i.e. the betas). Easily the most retarded thing I've ever done.
Eventually, I self diagnosed myself as a beta after reading /r/theredpill too much. I tried doing their required reading, but that was just too complicated.
Long story short: It took me meeting several real life betas in college and watching them interact with other people to realize that I wasn't actually a beta. More importantly, I realized that I was mistaking my stoicism and reservedness as awkwardness.
My advice is:
>ask people that know you well how you come across to them
>think about your own personal qualities and how they can help you excel in different parts of life (ex: I'm very level headed which has helped me deal with academic stress, but I have a funny side that makes most people laugh)
>never skip leg day
>if you're really nervous around other people, try visualizing internally what your interactions with them might be like
>don't avoid social interaction: want takeout? place the order over the phone.
>make eye contact with people
>DON'T read /r/theredpill or any of its related subreddits
>>37882365
>>37884531
most importantly you have to be assertive, take what you want. being passive is a one way tiket to betaville
was beta virgin
how to become alpha
>go to gym
>get off 4chan
>get a job where your forced to talk to people
>hang around with sociable people (non autistic)
Dont bother with self help books they wont do anything when your stuck at home everyday not meeting anyone you have to actually go out and meet people. if you dont have anything to talk about watch a few of the big sports games and hopefully your non autistic hobbies
>>37886163
how can your mind be so weak that you get influenced to such an extent by anonymous fucking weirdos on /pol/?
like seriously think for yourself
>>37889585
>I was mistaking my stoicism and reservedness
You're still beta. You're also pretentious faggot trying to justify being beta
>>37889925
Elaborate
>>37882169
If you think you are the former, or latter, stop using these terms then you might stand a chance IRL.
The meme became a crippling mindset.
>>37887407
Agreed lmao
/r9k/ pls go home
>>37889810
>get off 4chan
well fuck
>>37882231
You're a bitch
>>37886413
That's a very beta way of thinking.
>>37882169
God you're trying so hard, I don't blame you though...I tried reading PUA, most of it is dogshit, though RSD Tyler and especially Tim have some good points, although basically what they do is just take certain psychological concepts and apply them to a specific case. If you want to learn I'd recommend those 2 guys.
It's actually really simple:
1) Stop caring about what anyone thinks. TRULY stop caring, not just mentally saying to yourself "it's ok I don't care." No more of that mental noise and thinking so much about, just act.
2) Do whatever you want, whenever you want (within the confines of your societal roles, job, etc, i.e. don't just be an asshole for no reason).
If you can actually follow these two rules everything else falls into place, at least for me it did.
Are your activities something you enjoy and are they something that help you improve as a human being? Then keep doing them. Are you doing these things to please someone else/boost your self image? Then it won't help you become "alpha," the term is meaningless anyway. If you want to get laid go get an escort, go to clubs or bars and pick up drunk chicks. It won't solve anything though if you haven't changed those 2 fundamentals. Best of luck.
>>37891480
forget all that shit for a minute
-do you look good?
until you meet this prerequisite, any and all of your interests are irrelevant
fix that and the rest doesnt matter
>>37886413
Is there a female version of this
>>37891512
While I agree that looking good is a benefit, it is not a prerequisite to being "alpha" or successful in general. OP thinks a woman will complete his life and solve all his problems, and might make him feel good (for a time). Ultimately he's just trying to fill up a void with something external instead of working on the internal aspect of himself. I do think everyone who is capable should do strength training for the health benefits. The aesthetics are just a nice side effect and do indeed get people to pay more attention to you.
>>37891569
picture an ugly guy.
do you think a girl cares about his interests? no, she turns him down even before he has a chance to speak.
>>37886413
Isn't gamma - just a special breed of beta - ? They're basically researching approval but the scope of it is smaller ( a social circle, instead of society as a whole ).
![156616[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/iTcUI3R.png "156616[1].png")
>>37891581
Do you think any girl would turn down this guy ?
>>37884417
Haha I have something similar. I've always been pretty tall / athletic and not afraid to fight people giving me shit etc. people think I'm a manly tough guy. In my head I'm a beta skeleton. So strange.
>>37886163
agreed lad
also if you take too many red pills you will spiral into a depression so dark it is almost impossible to get out of
>>37883993
Must feel good, not causing jelly on other people that you don't even have contact anymore, just having the grip of your own life. Nice.
>total loser in high school but I was valedictorian and got a scholarship to a big football party school
>I had always been handsome just a loner asshole virgin
>decided to make a change in college
>joined a fraternity
>got lots of respect, had sex with 10 girls in 3 months
>then I got blackout drunk and apparently slapped a girl and tried to rape her
>got kicked out of fraternity and was back to square one for a few months
>started lifting 5 months ago, look better than I did before
>rushing fraternities again starting this week, hope to get back on top soon
Wish me luck brehs and pray I can handle my liquor this time
>>37891816
wtf? why would you continue to drink after an incident like that? do you want to go to jail / ruin a person's life? Christ man get a grip
>>37891480
yeah but HOW do you stop giving a fuck
all the books and videos give that advice but honestly HOW do you do that
>>37891858
Do a watered down version of what you want to do. Face the consequences (they will likely be less bad than you thought).
Progress until you are living the way you actually want to live while steadily acclimatising.
>>37891816
what school?
>>37891868
Sometimes I think I'm too far gone
Even asking strangers directions seems really scary to me
>>37883993
Somewhat related to women losing their looks.
>meet girl
>8/10 with no effort
>tall,slim, blue/green eyes, strawberry long thick hair , aesthetic face, big perky tits and ass.
And guess what this bitch does daily?
Drinks heavily, chain smokes and eats like an obese person after a hunger strike.
Wasted potential
>>37889585
>>Don't read /r/theredpill
wat wy
>>37891840
I guess I'm a degenerate. I don't drink very much though. Never more than 6 beers, which just gets me buzzed. It's never happening to me again.
>>37882169
This is pathetic lol. just pathetic. you are not alpha and never will be. "slowly entering healthy competition with the alphas in my neighborhood, no longer just being on the sidelines"
you are actually, like genuinely, pathetic. Just die man.
>>37882169
Man imagine being so alpha you can trick a bunch of mongo virgins into buying your completely unfounded book. That seems like the life.
>>37886413
>You become omega positive if you wear basketball shorts to the gym
Damn
I cucked myself the other day... I'm never gonna make it.
I was texting this cutie at night and she said "you should come over and cuddle with me"
I told I couldn't because I had to get up early the next morning.
Why am I do beta / fit/
>>37889585
>DON'T read /r/theredpill or any of its related subreddits
Literally the only good subreddit.
>I tried doing their required reading, but that was just too complicated.
>I didn't actually read anything, but I know it's bad
Everytime.
>>37892384
Wtf m8
Was she ugly cause that's literally the only excuse. Why are you such a bitch?
>>37892384
that's actually alpha tho Tbh
>>37882692
any self-help books you'd recommend?
>>37893842
Just a few. I usually see them get mentioned often enough as it is:
>Meditations by Marcus Aurelius (Gregory Hays translation)
>Feeling Good: The New Mood Therapy by David D. Burns
>Models by Mark Manson
>The Power of Now by Eckhart Tolle (if you can look past the new age hippie bullshit about energy and vibrations)
But in all honestly, some of the books that hit me the hardest weren't self-help.
>Notes from Underground by Fyodor Dostoevsky
Related a lot to the main character which helped me call myself out on a lot of my bullshit.
>Steppenwolf by Hermann Hesse
>Siddhartha by Hermann Hesse
Books can only take you so far, though. You need to put what you learn into practice. In a way, fortunately for me, I have a job that is constantly exposing me to social interactions (unfortunately, it pays dog shit; never work in retail sales if you're the quiet type). There are times when I slip back into my old ways of thinking and feeling insecure, but that's normal, I suppose. At least it's gotten easier to deal with now.
>>37892221
Because it's a circlejerk
>>37893842
Leaving your room.
>>37891858
The only way i could get a handle on that was starting on SSRIs and actually experiencing how it feels first hand.
I get nearly free meds here though so it may not be as easy for you
>>37882169
>be the beta-est of beta in highschool
>two chicks had me in the friendzone so deep I would never get out of there
>one chick whom I was in love with kisses a friend at a party (the friend knowing I was in love) I am too.
>crushed
>decide no mo' of this shit
>Discover NoFap and TRP, go lifting.
>NoFap cures autism (with girls)
>lifting gives me confidence (most important side result of lifting)
>TRP opens my eyes as to what girls want
>Get the girl in the end
>relationship for 6 months
>cum on her face, pee in her mouth, slap her pussy, all the depraved shit you can think of, I did that
>dump her because I was heavy on TRP at that time and didn't want a slut as a gf
>2nd year of uni start, phase out TRP as i'm getting ok with girls as it is
>keep lifting, keep on the NoFap
>I can get girls at that point but social game is lacking
>decide to do something about that, read "How to win friends and influence people" by Carnegie
>shit is life changing
>and i mean real life-changing
>suddenly I get to know people at breakneck speed, I want to be social, people actually want to be my friends, just a great great feeling
>grow a beard
>holy shit girls respond HUGELY positive to that. Beard is key if u can pull it off. Buy a beard tonic
>Keep on the NoFap, life is going great, going into sociable chad mode now
>last week I fucked 2 girls, kissed 6 and fooled around with another one while her ex was at that party (he ran away angry)
>start taking zinc, this shit is like NoFap but all the time. Feel like a boss all the time.
I think i'm making it guys. TL;DR: NoFap, TRP (just filter out the autistic shit), lifting, How to win friends, beard and zinc. THat did it for me.
chubby teen with long curly hair and baggy clothes.
Start working, wear better fitting clothes, get a hair cut, lose some weight.
No problems, pussy when I want.
>>37882169
>Be beta
>Think "Hm, what I'm doing obviously doesn't work. Let's try doing the opposite."
>Next day: gf
True story.
>>37891816
You can't join a new fraternity when you already pledged one. Its brotherhood for life you rapist.
>>37882169
Since nobody’ll read this shit I may as well dump the full story.
>be a beta thru most of my childhood years, constantly harassed and just took it since ‘if I tell people of authority they’ll handle it’ like a fucking idiot
>it didn’t, escalated to being attacked and teachers/parents turned a blind eye
>during this separate time I got approached with ‘if you want this to end drop pants and bend over’
>before I could answer the next day got raped by fat fuck and two of his friends in school bathroom
>just went home, nobody asked me anything about what happened
>sophomore year of HS saw him again, he feigned “I don’t know you.”
>queue six months of constant ear-flicking and trying to keep that JFK quote in mind
>eventually don’t, start beating him with a textbook with every intent to beat him to death
>got dragged off him and suspended for a week
>still no friends but at least I got a week’s vacation and assurance I could at least study in peace.
>after this started to lift a bit, had a gf for short-term but it ended because she rapidly fell into feminazi territory
>2 years after that met 7/10 qt, hit it off
>things going well, much better than planned
>2 years into relationship she moves back to TN because of family issues which I was fine with
>not two weeks later nearly get robbed (a year ago now)
>brain shut off, took his gun, shot him five times and ran
>she's been going downhill mentally and physically for a year, between this, college, trauma from the above incident caused me to quit lifting, eat like shit and gain like 30lbs on top of the 20 I wanted to lose
>backed out of college for a semester so I can get my bearings and maybe get therapy
>it doesn’t help
>basically mfw the last year of my life
>relationship failing, last of my ‘friends’ cut off contact a couple months ago
Time to start lifting again, I guess. 10lbs down but %bf is more important.
Nothing left but to keep going forward.
>>37894727
elaborate
>>37891932
This is youth. I could eat and drink shitty stuff on a daily basis and still walk around with a six pack ans no wheight gain. Today? Hell no. Those times are over.
Women really age like cheese.
All that make up, tanning studios, alcohol, cigarettes, hair dye...and as soon as they realise that their beauty fades away they start doing some unhealthy bullshit diets and workouts, take some vitamin pills, surgery that makes it worse.
There are of course exceptions, but most women start to panic. Getting knocked up and marrying the first decent guy they meet, or even some pathetic idiot who was 'just a good friend' all these years before.
you don't think about being alpha, you just become
>>37894321
whats trp
>>37895225
Subreddit.
An online community who thinks they dicovered the holy grail of pussy.
The problem is 99% of their theory, methods and information was already discussed a decade earlier in another forum. There books and videos covering the same principles. Go have a look, read the sidebar. That's it. Except their sidebar and a few posts there is no value.
In my opinion you would profit more by reading books instead of reading what those idiots have to say.
>>37882169
>99 Attractive Traits That Drive Women Crazy
Where can I read this?
>>37887407
No, he's just pointing out a paradox that you seem to be too stupid to see. Alphas do what they want, thus they can be betas if they wish to, if they are betas they arent alphas, if they cant be betas then they arent alphas.
>>37884136
RSDfag here. I'm one of the Inner Circle group leaders (it's like the RSD version of a local city lair) Take what you find useful, then move on with your life. That's coming from me. Self development is a tool to get you to your goals, not a destination to itself. Yeah some of the PUA guys are a little wacky, so take the elements that apply to your life and execute on them, and stay away from the "game-bots", the people who seem to have no life outside of going out to bars and shitposting on dating advice Facebook groups.
>>37890074
I love you Lotus m8. Post bod
>>37882169
well at least you´re living smart congrats for that but you still sound like the cucked guy in the image
>does everything to become alpha
>still a kissless virgin
read 'awaken the giant within' by tony robbins. i think it's in the first 2 chapters, but he goes on to say that you can have all the knowledge in the world and know how to act in any situation, but if you don't actually get out there and put it to use it was all just wasted time.
go put it to use NOW phaggot.
Being self-aware and beta is the true alpha. Half the anxiety and distress caused by "not manning up" is self-inflicted. It's time to accept many of the positive virtues "humility, charity, keeping your mouth shut etc" would be considered "beta" traits
Well I got a job, starting to get leaner and better looking, thats bout it, I used to be pretty submisive but now I dont give a fuck and say and do what I want
>>37895027
Incorrect breh. As long as you aren't imitated you aren't a "brother for life" and have the power to leave or get kicked out or whatever. It's once you're initiated that you're stuck unless you get yourself expelled.
Aside from that the old fraternity promised confidentiality so I doubt I'll have any trouble with it.
>>37894198
Add to the list the Blueprint Decoded videos by Real Social Dynamics. Torrent them if you must
>>37891858
It's all in your head man.
Gotta figure on your own how to change your thinking pattern.
I got that with age. Simply stopped caring about petty BS.
You could try doing this "failure challenge", lot's of people were reporting it improved their lives.
Basically it's about getting used to hearing "No" and rejection.
So what you do is every week you ask a complete stranger for something really retarded that will force them to say "No".
E.g. bother someone at the street and ask if they could give you 1k$
Pick richest looking house in the neighborhood, knock on the door and ask if you could take a bath in their home. Tell some shitty excuse when asked that their house looks great and bathroom must be equally GOAT so you were curious.
When confronted, explain what you are doing and why.
People are pretty receptive about this kind of shit, so I heard at least.
>>37891858
Put your real personality out there and get rewarded for it. Or, don't get rewarded for it but realize afterwards...that wasn't that bad after all
>>37895027
>>37895742
Frats are just ghetto Freemasons. Why don't you stop hanging out with try-hards and go have dinner with their Dads and Grandfathers once a month instead?
>>37886037
Bitch got what she deserved
>>37891858
>>37891896
Just do it.
Ask yourself what could go wrong. Like for example talking to a stranger. What could go wrong? Let's say you spill spaghetti all over the floor, then what? It's a stranger. Fuck it what he or she thinks about it. Start of with easy social interaction like that. Move on from that point.
Your main focus should be on the question what could go wrong. Don't be to hard on yourself when trying to answer that question.
>>37882169
>be beta in school
>could hardly speak to grills never wanted to be seen in a bad light
>was the stereotypical beta nice guy kissless virgin
>go to uni start lifting
>start going out alot just with friends
>friends give me confidence to start getting drunk and dancing and doing stupid shitand acting like an idiot at bars /clubs
>start getting confidence to do this without alcohol
>this stems from both realising i care less of what people think, and that i could probably drop half these kunts on their heads if they were to arc up.
>also that if i pissed off everyone in the world/bar/cllub i would still at least have some bros to talk shit with
>start talking to grills, although still overcompensated in being nice
>start being like fuck it, and talk shit with girls instead
>start realising certain ques
>start hooking up with girls alot more
>realise that being a person with emotions and showing / sharing those emotions is what girls are attracted to
>realise girls love drama in the good sense
>get gf's and fuck buddies
What i realise through this is that i was never really confident in myself. Me being 'nice' in high school wasn't really me, i was nice, but i overcompensated. Being confident in yourself and self worth is another important thing for growth. The ability to say or do that slightly risky thing you might not think is appropriate to say is incredible. sometimes i argue or get into weird situations because of the shit i do. but it just gives me good stories to talk shit with mates or when i chat up someone who shares the same humour.
>Be me two years ago
>6'1 at 130lbs, pathetic facial hair
>weakest guy everywhere I go
>horrible social anxiety
>Beta orbiting Girl from my classes hard
>become her emotional sandbag for a half year until she cucks me on my birthday even though we planned an actual Date in the following days
>Disregard women
>start lifting, gain 70lbs
>Women flocking on me
>Strong as fuck
>Good build
>Mires from men and women alike while manlets wanna kill you
>Disregard women anyway after getting a fuckbuddy and having women on the side
>>37895793
Free masons are kind of low class gophers where I'm at. Maybe I need to find a lodge with rich people. But it's not like you can just request membership anyway
>Was fairly normal beta teenager
>Grew up a bit
>Stopped giving a fuck
The end.
How the fuck do I stop giving a fuck and just do it?
I can't smile, I look retarded when I try, I have a weak chin, my face looks fucking dumb.
What the fuck do I do?
There's a difference between some happy looking guy doing crazy shit and some retard looking weirdo being an autist. How do I not look like a derro?
>>37896104
>But it's not like you can just request membership anyway
But you can?
>>37896170
Nobody cares what you look like retard. You're an anonymous face on the street who nobody remembers 5 seconds after seeing them. Get over yourself.
>>37896178
>Literally thinking this.
I can still remember retarded I've seen other people doing years ago.
The "nobody remembers" meme needs to stop.
You'll never be an alpha.
>>37882169
>>been reading books such as: Models, No More Mr. Nice Guy and 99 Attractive Traits That Drive Women Crazy (actual good book, seems like a clickbait title)
Lol
>started saving money instead of buying useless shit
Saving is beta, investing is alpha
>don't waste time doing things that I don't really like (playing vidya), still watch TV tho but I enjoy it and alphas do whatever the fuck they want
Nice mental gymnastics
>tfw still 21 yr old kissless virgin
Dude you are just a loser.
>>37896193
That's because you are an autist bro. Regular people have more things going on in their lives
>>37882169
>HS 2007-2011
>be obsessed with FF
>hate guns and sports
>skelly 6'3 150lb
>beginning of college
>get a restaurant job
>balloon to 250
>2012 discover fit
>lifting since then
>haven't missed a workout since
>will never be a skelly or ham beast again
>>37882169
What do you call someone if they are sort of between beta and alpha?
>>37896234
FUCKING NORMIESS
REEEEEE
how do i just turn my brain off? is there a drug for this?
>>37882365
gayyest shit I've read today
>>37896235
>>hate guns and sports
How can anyone hate guns?
>>37896248
omega maybe
>>37896173
You have to be invited by a Mason
>>37896262
Have a more fulfilling life with more important things going on
>>37896170
>>37896193
From Dr. David Burns's book "The Feeling Good Handbook":
Cognitive Distortion #5
Jumping to conclusions: (A) Mind reading--you assume that people are reacting negatively to you when there's no definite evidence for this; (B) Fortune telling--you arbitrarily predict that the future will turn out badly.
Read the book
>>37896295
But that's what I'm trying to get...
>>37896262
try a sense deprivation tank....maybe a 2 or 3 hour session, smoke a joint befor entering.... or maybe indulge in a light dose of mushroom tea. Youère mind will race for the first hour but after that....enjoi being perpetually launched into nothingness.. shroom high and you will meet god. enjoi!
>>37896312
>unless i receive written response that i look like an autismo it's not true
are you retarded? read some body language.
>>37896275
I was a Daily Show lib
Now I have an Ar15
>>37896321
How do I get mushrooms?
>>37896323
You have no clue what other's are thinking. Even if you have 90% certainty they're disgusted by you (let's say you've got a booger hanging out of your nose and don't notice it) you have no certainty whatsoever about whether they remember it even 20 minutes later. Since you cannot know for certain what someone is thinking, why are you basing your life around your predictions of their brains' inner workings?
>>37896331
based
>>37896331
>>37896345
Because I have no control of my brains inner workings and I cannot stop myself thinking about what other people are thinking.
How do I turn it off?
>>37896331
Tips fedora
>>37896362
By noting when you are "Mind reading" and consciously willing yourself to think about productive things, like your next meal, workout, the next time you're hanging out with a friend, a good book you are reading, etc. You should also practice mindfulness meditation which will teach you how to let go of conscious thought. After I started meditating I can now simply close my eyes, take a deep breath, and immediately have a feeling of greater calm come over me.
Read the book like I said I'm not an expert. The book will teach you. David Burns.
>>37882169
>go on vacation
>don't fap or watch porn for two weeks
>horny levels go up
>testosterone goes up
>all I care about is triumph
>suddenly alpha
>go home
>fap
>back to beta cucklord
>>37896399
Is there a difference between "the feeling good handbook" and "feeling good"?
>>37896345
>hurr durr u can;t be sure bro xD
>>37896413
>stop fapping
>people start respecting me
>break PRs
>gain 5 pounds of muscle in a week
>get raise
>get 3 fuckbuddies
>win the lottery
>buy a giant house
>suddenly fap
>lose everything and become homeless
Welp shouldn't have fapped
>>37896425
My therapist recommended the handbook because it has written exercises that will help you apply his methods. Basically therapy without a therapist. Feeling Good is just the original expression of his ideas. It will help but you'll have to apply the ideas yourself. It's up to you.
>>37882231
>>37896440
Think what you want, but it's the basis of Cognitive Behavioral Therapy (CBT) the only proven method to permanently solve social anxiety, depression, and every other problem 4channers have. Nothing else works, especially not being a whining, greentexting, memeing little bitch.
>>37896477
What about meth?
>>37896481
Using meth may work in the short term, especially since you might find friendship and community with fellow meth users and dealers. In the long run, addiction, legal problems, broken relationships with non meth addicts, and the realization that your meth using friends are using you for more meth and don't really care about you will probably lead to deepened depression and anxiety. Should you ever attempt to quit meth the withdrawal could heighten your anxiety. I don't recommend it.
I am pretty beta but at the same time I feel like I am not a proper beta. I am quiet but I still get along well with pretty much everyone and I can make most people laugh when we hang out.
Was a kissless virgin until recently, now just a virgin, but I dont have any real problem talking to girls. Just afraid to go in for the kill so to speak. I haven't been in any fights but I haven't backed down from anyone who squared up to me either.
>>37894321
I second this beards and zinc ftw
>>37896477
>listen to me I paid someone to be my dad err I mean give me therapy so I know what I'm talking about xD
>>37896519
If you don't believe me you can read about it here or in any psychology textbook or periodical.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_behavioral_therapy
>Meditation and mindfulness
Goes such a long way to improving confidence and learning how to not give a fuck. You really start to realize how 99% of your daily life is guided by your mind wandering and leading you to do different things that might not be best for you.
The sooner you start meditating, the sooner you will gain true control of your life
>>37896546
>psychology is totally not pseudo science you guys :))) here's a totally cool wikipedia article you might like :)))))
>>37895040
savage
There's nothng less alpha than wanting to be alpha. Alpha's don't care what other people think. They impress you by not trying to impress you.
>>37882875
Rip
>>37895286
Truth. The only thing to take away from there is girls respond to confidence and manly traits, like a deep voice, competitiveness, beard, you name it
>>37882169
>repress myself and don't do things I actually like (playing vidya)
>alphas do whatever the fuck they want
You're failing at being a beta faggot.
Also where the fuck have the fat hate threads gone?
>>37889585
Asking people how "well you come across to them" is litteraly the most beta quality you stupid piece of shit
>>37895040
badass now get back to gym senpai
>i used to be sort of beta. but like the alpha of the betas
>fucked bitches and fell in love with all of them
>every pussy i pounded i one itisd
>lived at my moms house no future
>now im making 55k a year
>my own place
>hit n quit all sorts of pussy
>>37882585
this
ive read allot of self help books and none of them have helped me because i was not confident, if you are not comfortable around people then they will notice this quickly and will think either something is wrong with you or them, and you will push people away, so if you are not confident enough to open up to people then theres no chance of you getting a girlfriend, the only real way to gain confidence is through experience and success
>>37882169
>One last thing missing I feel is I need a girl however then again, I shouldn't think this way
The harder you resist a thought, the stronger it becomes, anon. It's OK to think or even feel this way, because the thought is not you.
>>37882206
Sounds like you were already socially dominant. You definitely improved as a person though, if what you say is true.
>>37882274
>people have magic intention radars
No, they can't sense your intentions. Thinking that is just going to cripple you more. Keep working on those social skills.
>>37882585
>You're either attractive to them or youre not
You've gotta be absolutely delusional if you think you can't make yourself more attractive.
>>37898067
Working on it. Once my leg quits hurting I'll get back to squats/deadlifts, for now I'm sticking with presses/lats/other weights.
>smart kid my whole life
>beta until 15
>get sick of being kissless virgin
>at the one school where student council is cool
>work my way up to presidency of student council
>suddenly invited to parties, become much more social
>fuck off to college
>use book smarts to create an app
>use student council skills to generate user base
>sell app for a small fee as far as tech sales go, but now I'm a millionaire at 22
>decide to get fit as my next challenge
Let's do this /fit/. Being alpha starts in the mind, set your goals and don't take anybody's shit while you try to achieve them.
Kissed a girl for the first time in my life today. Don't lose hope guys. I believe in all of you
>>37896291
You don't. You can literally call the Grand Lodge in your area and say you want to join.
t. Master Mason.
>look im becoming alpha
>post on tibetan snowshoe afficianado forum about it
no
>>37889585
Sauce?
>>37896605
>Being so incapable of taking a lesson from other sources.
As much as anons Psych 101 stuff is wishy-washy you'd be retarded to dismiss it entirely.
>>37900572
I'm glad for you anon, I missed my chance with one two days ago but hopefully there will be another.
>>37900887
littlemutt: Linnea and Sharon
>>37882169
didn't read shit
didn't do shit about my image
didn't make mad gains
Just stopped internalizing all of my thoughts and started actually speaking up. Reading books and studying this PUA garbage will help you feel better and you can appear alpha to most people, but anyone with a brain can sense you slimy cunts a mile away, so if you want to be legitimately alpha and have everyone like you, you legit just have to be yourself.
>>37901885
This. PUA nonsense only works on pieces of shit. It's just two broken people who define their self-worth through getting fucked licking each others wounds.
>be me
>typical high school rebel ("anti-social", obscure music, etc)
>try to ask out girls but lack self esteem and social skills
>realize my mistakes and took the red pill
>isolate myself from friends and acquaintances to fix attitude for almost a month
>work on a powerpoint to point out what my goals are, learning those skills as I type them onto slides
>get part-time job, new haircut, start researching clothes
>new wardrobe (no more combat boots, cuffed pants, and worn jean jackets)
>slowly feel more confident as I get new clothes
>prioritize working out and getting gainz on spare time
>start to socialize to the people in class that I didn't talk to
>start to think of conversation topics on the top of my head rather than reading a list off the internet
>learned the importance of body language (posture, eye contact, tone of your voice)
>talking to qt3.14s became easier
Continue...?
>>37901885
>>37901967
honestly yeah
HOWEVER
pua/redpill is great for breaking unaware betas out of their clueless state
they are correct about how attraction/the world works
but their approach to dealing with it is off-track
really the only important thing from a practical standpoint is the self-love and self-acceptance stuff
>>37886413
>gamma to a T
Oh god, does this make me a fedoralord?
Does it count if I'm focusing on my degree?
>>37891816
>>total loser in high school but I was valedictorian and got a scholarship to a big football party school
Should have stopped reading there, but...
>>then I got blackout drunk and apparently slapped a girl and tried to rape her
Don't act like you don't remember that you stupid fuck. You're lying to yourself because it's convenient.
>>37892384
>>37892774
This, to be quite frank, familial.
>>37902175
CONTINUE
>>37886163
>implying /pol/ isn't it misc
I hope you didn't mean /b/ or /r9k/
>>37886413
>Gamma positive
>Usually just do what I want and keep to myself
>Very few friends, though friends all happen to just be alphas who respect me for who I am
>Feels good, like strawberry good
I like where I'm at, but there is always room for mental and physical pursuits. One's happiness lies in one's self, not in the confiding of others, although validation gives a positive feeling, should not be the forefront of one's desire.
