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>bride-iCanGetFatNow.png
>become stay at home mom
>start watching morning shows all day like all other moms
>morning shows need to keep their audiences
>every segment designed around telling stay at home moms that they are foundation of society, they can do no wrong, they are beautiful no matter what
>tell them they don't need to do anything besides sit on their couch and watch their tv shows/advertisements
>women start turning into fat, annoying slobs
20 years later everyone starts wondering why men don't want to get married anymore
>>37799714
Wait...she became a doge?
>>37799792
fuck off ribbit
>>37799714
>Even dogger got fat
What one year of working of McDonald's can do to the girl you crushed on
>>37799953
>>37799714
anyone know the name of the subreddit for pics like this?
>tfw oneitis gets fat
I can finally move on
>>37799714
this is my greatest fear, I must find a grill who is a psycho for fitness
Guy I went to school with married this girl.
He took both pictures btw.
>>37799991
blessing in the skies m8
>>37800024
Jesus Christ. I dont think one of these has ever made me so sad.
>>37799953
>>37799974
the grey shirt girl in the first pic is the black shirt girl in the second, right? Still remains fuckable tho, high test lmao.
>>37799991
It's the perfect opportunity Anon. Get her while the self esteem is at an all time low then put her on a program and get the fatty back into shape.
She was pretty fucking good looking in that first pic. Honestly thinking about going this route and molding a girl instead of getting a delusional Stacy whore.
>>37799991
Going through that right now.
It is a weird feeling. In one side I'm sad that she was such a cutie that is a chubby 6/10 now.
On another, it is great to be fucking girls way hotter than her, and she sees how much below me she is now.
Either way, it is weird to realize how superficial I actually am. She isn't so cute anymore and now I don't give 2 shits when she talks to me.
>>37800024
You can actually tell in the first picture she has shit genetics and is about to blow the fuck up.
>>37800051
You can never change a person if they dont legitimately want to change. Been there with two gfs that i thought i could transform. It just doesnt work unless they really want it. It'll just lead to frustraion all around.
>>37800046
Nope, she's the one in the clam bra.
>>37800079
Yeh I see what you are saying. Certain girls definitely can get attached enough to the point where they would do anything. All depends on the purpose I guess.
>>37800135
doesn't matter, still fuckable, can you give me some more after-bulk pics of her anon?
>>37799974
Dodged that bullet
>>37799714
You realize you could just say digress, right?
>>37800385
Do you mean regress?
>>37800422
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>>37800422
Really either, unless reverse racism is actually a thing.
>>37800170
Sure thing desu
>>37799714
>She got so fat, it affected her dog.
>>37800024
first pic confirmed for timebomb
I did not see this coming, how can you detect if your gf is going to turn into this
>>37800813
Nice upgrade, bro
>>37800422
>that last face
>>37800536
shes fucking hot you twerp
This is some kind of backstab, imagine marrying her and her turning like this.
>>37799714
fucking hell that right pic is disgusting
>>37800973
Don't tell me she didn't go downhill real fast. She's gonna be landwhale in about another year I'd guess.
>>37801003
there should be like a prenup clause in every marriage for this shit
>>37801101
Yep I agree
>>37801101
she's still objectively smokin hawt, hotter in her before but still something id look twice at. could go either way. what age is she?
>>37801101
is she slavic/armenian/something like that? those always age poorly
>>37800813
Look at her mom, that's usually not a bad indicator, also their arms are pretty good giveaways.
>>37801139
She's 19. Apparently her parents divorced and when her strict mom lost custody she started partying non-stop. Probably should've seen this coming.
>>37799990
It was /r/FitToFat but SRS fags got it shut down. I'm someone that doesn't really love the FPH but that subreddit and threads like this inspire me to not be a fatass and I was pissed when I saw the subreddit gone. Did they make another anyone know?
>>37800536
Yeah this chick is almost hotter now you low test fag.
>>37799714
This is why I never want to get pregnant and have children.
I'm too selfish to sacrifice myself for a screeching baby that sucks my time and money.
>>37799714
No pics because I am at work but I have reverse progressed by 26lbs. Currently working to unJUST myself.
I had a six pack and a nice shaped chest. Now I look all flabby and man titties.
>>37800536
Wood berry familia
>>37801795
oh shit wat up
>>37800536
MOAR!!!
>>37800281
you mean missed that high test opportunity
>>37800536
still fuckable and you can clearly see she is a with a 6ft dyel who can bench 95 pounds. More proof you don't need to lift. And if you do lift just do biceps and chest
>>37801003
AI MAMI NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>37799953
>>37799974
god what a fucking waste
makes me sad
>>37800536
this is just a flattering angle
guy standing next to her is covering 1/5 of her
still hot, but if she dropped the weight she'd be major league
>>37801319
Nah they moved over to Voat.co.
If you search the site v/fatpeoplehate will come up. It's basically reddit for ragequitters. Still quality content tho
>>37799714
Her old friends that didnt see her for a couple years probably think she died because they cant find her anywhere and some fat shit took over her facebook..ew
>>37800170
>doesn't matter, still fuckable
Put down the keyboard dawg, stop posting.
>>37804017
Yeah, they removed fit to fat over on Voat as well it seems :(
>>37803435
>>37804482
Same swimsuit one year later
>>37800536
Muh dick
>>37800024
>>37799714
>>37800024
This is distressing. I hope my gf won't suddenly become a landwhale one day.
>>37801003
she looks like the kind of fat girl who posts pics on okcupid cropped to just show her clevage
>>37804501
fingers are starting to morph into stubby hot dogs
>>37804557
That's why you get a woman who loves to exercise. Make it a focal point of your relationship and do shit like hike or gym or bike ride together.
>>37800067
>shit genetics
>>37804600
And a woman that knows how to cook. Too many people these days think healthy cooking is hard work and then just go for the easy way out and eat like shit.
Just came back from a family 4th of july cookout. Saw my little cousin (she's 22, but she's always my little cousin) for the first time since Christmas and damn she put on weight in a few months time. She went to avg/slightly athletic build to average flabby getting a gut and double chin. I don't think she cooks for herself at all. I bet it's all fast food and dining out combined with not being active. Funny how she's in school for nursing and lets herself go. I don't have any pics of her, but she looks like she's teetering the line of "about to have a shit body from shit diet and shit genetics"
>>37799714
God this shit is depressing. How do these people live like that? It's one thing to always be fat, but his can a girl be hot and then decide she wants to be fat? Did she look at old pictures of herself and just want to kill herself?
>>37800056
If she's fat she's not 6/10 anon.Simple truth.
>>37804918
Scientists found that in rats with cocaine addiction, they would choose to indulge in cocaine water even when it resulted in electric shock.
The rats actually actively made a choice to take the pain just so they could feel their addiction.
A similar thing is happening to the western world thanks to sugar consumption and fast food.
Yes fatties are to blame; they've made the choice to feed the addiction rather than replace the foods with healthier options... but ultimately we are all slaves to our neurons; and in the case of the fats they're slaves to dopramine release via the reward circuit which is tied to junk food. They've already given up and instead they're indulging in short term happiness even when it's the very cause of their depression in the first place.
I feel sorry for them. The choice is in our own hands to improve but at the same time the industry holds alot of blame.
>>37804914
Duuuude it's so fucking bizarre
I'm at uni at the moment studying my bachelors in nursing and the 5-10% of males in the course are fit, healthy guys.
Where as maybe only 5-10% of the total number of women in the course are fit and healthy, the rest are either fat, spooky skeletons that don't exercise, club sluts that get drunk and take drugs every weekend or older women who have kids.
Like fuck, you're ment to be on the front line of the health industry fuckig act like you belong there as a worker not a potential patient
>>37801153
>>37801153
>>37801153
THIS THIS THIS THIS
I guarantee you it's accurate
>>37805159
...are the girls who aren't fat at least cute tho
>>37799714
>>37805065
gluttony always has been a sin
there's no excuses for weakness
>>37805159
That sucks. I went to a university with a really good nursing school and all the nurses were absurdly hot. God damn I miss undergrad.
>>37805159
Work as a radiographer and know lots of nurses. I have never come across a group of people so susceptible to meme diet and exercise trends in my life. When it comes to assessing and understanding the nutritional needs of a patient they're really on the ball, yet somehow they personally subscribe to the dumbest ideas when they are trying to lose weight.
Consequently they're all fat pallid fucks.
It blows my mind
>>37805394
What's the difference between a radiographer and a radiologist?
>>37805343
Nigga just how much control do you think you have? You do realize your "conscious will" doesn't exist right?
Every choice you make is the reaction of neural pathways; your conscious will is just a hallucination. When you think you're making the choice between pizza or chinese food; your neural pathways are making that choice and they're just making you hallucinate you're actively making the choice.
The same applies for fats. Their own enemy is their own neural programming; of course it can be overcome through correct diet and eating habits but the fact remains that they don't have any "willful" control.
I eat clean but I know I couldn't go on a water fast for 7 days; because my brain wouldn't let me. It would invent any excuse for me to eat again; I would find some reason or logical explanation when in reality it is my neural programming kicking in to stop me from killing myself.
The fats need to choose to help themselves, but at the same time it must be remembered that they've been programmed to have reward circuits which fire in response to eating sugary foods. It's an addiction which they are slaves to, and like all animals they will choose to harm themselves to feed that addiction.
The rats are proof, they lack the conscious ego/the narrative we give ourselves yet they are still willful slaves to neural addiction in tests. We're exactly the same; our conscious ego is just a hallucination. Every choice we made and every thought we have is the result of a neuron passing on a neurotransmitter to trigger another neuron; thus causing a chain reaction which results in you making the choice to go to the shops. The entire consciouss ego and the illusion of willpower is just that; it's an illusion. We are the passengers and the brain is the driver.
>>37805450
Samefag here
I'm not saying fats aren't to blame for their own condition. But I'm saying they deserve some sympathy and understanding. Alot of the fats I know aren't educated enough on healthy eating.
They eat they've eaten healthy because they had a salad with mayonnaise all over it.
>>37805450
>The entire consciouss ego and the illusion of willpower is just that; it's an illusion
not true. explain how people quit smoking under your shallow understanding of the brain. there are higher and lower brain functions, and the higher ones can always win out, though sometimes people choose to submit to the lower urgers
>>37805450
truuuuuu lmao
>>37805448
Radiographer takes pictures, radiologist interprets them
>>37805496
>He thinks he exists
Ayy lmao
>>37800422
>Working at QWERTYs sub
>Trying to feel superior
>>37804501
Would smash... High test, whatever, she's thick and hot...
>>37805496
People don't choose. The choice is being made in their mind.
The dorsolateral prefrontal cortex is responsible for controlling impulses.
Not your "will".
In the case of an obese person fighting addiction, their dorsolateral prefrontal cortex and their orbitofrontal cortex will be overpowered by the firing of the neural pathway associated with the desire for the release of dopamine.
You don't make any choices. YOU don't exist.
That decision you just made to refrain from eating that apple? That was the result of your prefrontal cortex and all the parts that it consists of.
If you were to inject yourself with a drug to enhance your prefrontal cortex, would you still be making the choice to refrain from addiction?
If you were to get a brain tumor which pressed on your amygdala it'd make you more aggressive; but you'd still be "you", and you'd still feel like "you". You'd actively justify those times you got mad, and you'd be in total control of your temper and you'd choose to be aggressive. But how much of that choice is "willfully" yours when in reality your amygdala is being stimulated and causing your temper to flare up?
You don't exist faggot. Stop deluding yourself and thinking it's all about "choice". It's not about choice, it's about reprogramming.
>>37800536
is she dating that tall lesbian or are they just friends?
how do these people change their mass so drastically when i've been the same hungry skeleton narrow 5lb weight range for 10 years?
>>37805638
i'm not arguing that the brain controls human behavior, 3rd graders understand that. but to say that all of your actions are based on a small subset of neurons that handle what we identify as 'cravings' and 'addiction' is a horrible simplification of reality
>>37805539
>denying one of the three pillars of reason
go back to high school philosophy.
>>37800813
>those bursting buttons
Why do fat people do this? Any former or current fatties care to weigh in?
>>37805661
Your ENTIRE brain is built from neurons and glia. Every single thing we do is the choice of neural pathways.
That decision you just made to respond to me? YOU didn't make that because YOU don't exist. A multitude of pathways fired to tell you to respond; the notion of YOU making that choice is a total hallucination. You are just a hallucination, you believe you're in control but you're not. Your consciousness doesn't exist, it's built up of a whole multitude of different parts which result in a shared experience masquerading as consciousness.
You need to understand this. YOU as you know it don't exist.
>>37805704
Try reading some neuroscience you deluded little faggot.
Alright gents, I know the only surefire way to prevent this. You can ask your lady to gym every time you go and she may say no. You can suggest you have a cute gym bunny friend to get her there out of jealousy. Ultimately though, you cant make her go. You can however control her diet. Tell her that you buy the food. You shop, you pay for it, its your contribution alone. If she's worth anything she'll appreciate it or at worst cave with some insistence. Then you just buy good shit. No one gets fat on brocolli, period
>>37804914
Did she like your abs, though?
>>37805719
>consciousness doesnt exist because its too complex for me to understand
Niggah shut the fuck up. Just because the mind and body are one doesnt mean the mind doesnt exist you philosophical cunt. you dont know neuro for shit. You are real, you are more complex than you could ever know but ofcourse you fucking exist and control everything
>>37805782
you've just triggered his neurons now lmao
>>37805719
i get it, you just went through your first class on brain physiology of something. but what you're missing is that whether I exist or a bunch of electrical connections that represent me exists doesn't matter, those are literally the same thing. that's like saying there are no APPLES because APPLES are made from MOLECULES
noone is arguing that some mystic force controls their brain functions, but your original claim was that "willpower" doesn't exist, which is incorrect. even a dog understands that he can grab food off the table, but he will be punished, so he tries being well-behaved instead. yes, this risk-reward calculation is done by the neurons in his brain, but it still exists no matter what name you call it
>>37805638
Thought is just data processing which is really really important and obviously chanes things. You are the thinker an thus do choose and are vitally important
>>37805719
Or read Nietzsche. Free will is a lie.
Is this thread turning into a discussion on free will?
>>37805797
side note, this is why education is a huge part of the remedy for obesity. understanding the risks associated with being enormous will affect the risk-reward evaluation that goes on (consciously or sub-consciously) within the brain of the fatto
>>37805823
there are tonnes of programs aimed at early intervention for obesity though, they just don't work very well because kids are taught to eat healthy but because of their pubescent metabolism, they can pack away anything and either not gain a pound or lose it in the blink of an eye.
the most important thing needed is to absolute annihilate the positive fat body movements. it's very hard to justify eating salad rather than burgers when the end result sees you protected from criticism and still "beautiful".
>>37805719
i'd be willing to bet i've read more on neurosciences than you have. the reason what you're saying is wrong is simple, and that is because in order to interpret the world you have to assume that you exist in some fashion. questioning that existence is fine, but your statement that "you don't exist" is empirically wrong.
now as to what you're arguing, nobody knows if consciousness exists. i personally don't think that free will exists, and would agree on that aspect, but it depends on your definition of free will as well. you're trying to oversimplify and making blanket statements about something that we don't yet fully understand, not entirely.
and if the physical means by which you interact with the world don't make you, you, then what the fuck does?
i get exactly what your saying. what im saying is pull your head out of your own ass for two minutes, you autist.
>>37805307
She's fucking smiling about it too
>>37805851
>the most important thing needed is to absolute annihilate the positive fat body movements
i disagree, and god knows it won't work. they're loud and proud and fking sedentary so they're gonna post their nonsense all day every day. i think just getting the laternative message out will give people a chance. if they want to lie to themselves and become monstrosities, oh well. if they want to change then they should be able to readily find out how, if they can clear the huge hurdle of misinformation
>>37805450
>they lack the conscious ego/the narrative we give ourselves
Only wrong thing you said, rats are indeed metacognitive.
>>37805307
Fuck this woman. Look at her fucking face.
Why the fuck did anyone let her be in charge of raising a dog? She doesn't even have the willpower to take good care of herself. Why would a dog change that? Why couldn't getting a pet be a reward for getting back in shape?
Getting fit was never the real goal. She said whatever she had to for an excuse to get a dog. She wanted a reward without having to do any work to get there.
Now she's managed to fuck up that dog's life. And she acts like being a shit owner and neglecting it is a such a funny fucking joke.
>>37805872
> in order to interpret the world you have to assume that you exist in some fashion.
The entire world only exists as a discussion between your visual cortex and your thalamus. The fact you think "you" exist would mean you seperate "yourself" from everything else. You perceive yourself as a seperate entity from everything else in the world.
You define yourself as seperate because you have consciousness; but you're not seperate. Where do "you" exist? Through your lifetime every single cell in your body will have been replaced an entire multitude of times. Just because you're conscious doesn't mean "you" exist. Do you believe in a soul too?
>>37805872
>now as to what you're arguing, nobody knows if consciousness exists
Consciousness does exist, you're talking absolute drivel there. Of course we know consciousness exists, WE'RE CONSCIOUS!
What I'm arguing is that this grand notion that YOU are in control is a lie. You aren't in control, you are just a passenger. You have no conscious will, every single choice you make is the result of your neural pathways; you're hallucinating that you're making that choice but that's all it is... it's a hallucination, it's a cover for the clockwork underneath.
Let's imagine we mess with your dorsolateral prefrontal cortex and weaken your ability to control your impulses. You are still you, you are still making those choices in your head and you're still in total control. You still sit there saying "I don't want to eat that... but fuck it I'll eat it today and continue with my cut tomorrow. I'm in control and I'll make the right choice tomorrow"
You think you are making the choices but you aren't, it's all down to brain chemistry. You think you're the driver of your brain but you're not, you're just the passenger along for the ride hallucinating that hes in the driving seat. You're the sock puppet on the end of the hand hallucinating that hes real.
>>37805906
when people try to get the "alternative message" out, which is that being fat is not good, they get attacked for pushing potentially isolating agendas on people. generally speaking, people will follow paths of least resistance when it comes to this stuff. losing weight in 30's, 40's and beyond is tough work and i really just don't think anything can work when there are movements making them feel accepted and special as is. it's why fad diets and quick tips for losing weight have existed since the 30's.
people want to lose weight, but the main reason for wanting to lose weight is quickly being eroded by "u r beautiful" rubbish. decreasing numbers of smokers worked by showing them internally what happens when you smoke, and stigmatising smoking as something dirty and uncool - with the latter imo being more important.
>>37804557
To know for sure you have to look at their mothers; if they are fat landwhales, chances are their daughters will be like that too
>>37805947
metacognition isn't the same thing as the illusion of a self. A rat doesn't think he is a rat and he is destined for big things, and he is a unique little snowflake.
A rat simply knows he has shit to do. Even a dog can be trained to bark on command.
>>37805965
>i thought he realized how retarded he was and left
>mfw he actually was typing a nonsense response that whole time
>>37805969
but in reality they know they aren't beautiful, and they know they aren't healthy. it's all a facade. you'll never be able to censor the ones who say "I LOVE BEING FAT ITS GREAT PLS RESPOND" but quietly offering help to those that truly want it is possible
>>37805965
the brain chemistry that represents the illusion of your consciousness is a fucking retard
>>37806002
i see what you're saying but i think people prefer sweet lies to sour truths. what you're saying would work for some but i just think that if you really want to nail down obesity epidemics, you need to attack misconceptions of it being spread.
>>37806026
yeah you're right, noone wants to hear the bad news. i guess i don't care about curing the epidemic, just helping those who want to help themselves.. which is probably a small %
>>37805965
oh boy is it freshman philosophy night on /fit/
>>37805969
i've really never thought about it like this before. smoking used to be quite popular, but through education and other harm reduction campaigns smoking rates have dropped through the floor. i'm actually not all up about fat hate and such, so what would an actual educational campaign against obesity look like that isn't memes coming out of /r/fph?
>>37806048
>yeah you're right, noone wants to hear the bad news.
Just like these faggots below who need to believe they're special little snowflakes who are in full control of their bodies.
>>37805990
>>37806021
help I'm reverse progressing I think I won't make it oh god oh god someone slap me in the face please fuck.
>>37805965
i agree "you" arent in control and that the brain and your consciousness is governed, as you're arguing, by causality. i'm not contesting that point, that seems truly to be the case.
i'm not arguing for a seperable self from reality, im making the argument that if you dont assume that a version of "you," your subjective experiences or awareness, exist, that you undermine everything else about the world you "interpret." the shipbuilder's paradox is irrelevant here, your own version of reality that caused you to form these opinions is "you" and remains "you" even though it changes over time and is fully subject to outside influences.
and sorry, yes consciousness exists, what i meant to say there but totally fucked up was that we dont know from whence consciousness arises. there's a lot of work on artificial intelligence recently where they look into this, and attempt to glean if it stems from a level of overall complexity of an intelligence, or if it's conceivable of a super intelligent computer AI being created which is not conscious.
we're governed by physical processes is the root of basically your entire argument. this does not mean that "you" don't exist. you're saying some things that are true, sure, but you're making a non sequitur, here.
>>37806068
i hear ya, i can't control shit. i'm just a big pile of chemicals and electrons. that said, i have to make lunch for tomorrow and go to bed so i can get to work on time, so i'm gonna go control myself toward those ends
>>37806066
It would show the physical effects on the body.
It would explain about an ideal diet.
It would explain about using protein and fiber to fill yourself.
It would explain about calories.
Of course this will never happen because the food industry has too much power. There is a conspiracy against the consumers; earnings over health.
Did you know the sugar lobbyists went against the World health organization when they put out eating guidelines saying that people should limit sugar? They don't want us to get better.
>>37806076
the real trend is your sampling frequency. stick to low freq measurements, weekly is enough, otherwise you panic about the noise and lose the signal
>>37806081
So why are you arguing with me? You've just totally agreed with everything I've said. What actually is your disagreement?
>>37806090
You aren't in control faggot. Your brain is making those choices and you're hallucinating that decision. YOU DON'T EXIST.
Fucking hell how dense are you? How hard is it to understand? YOUR BRAIN MAKES THE DECISION BEHIND THE CURTAIN, MEANWHILE YOU SIT THERE WITH YOUR FINGER UP YOUR ASS THINKING THAT YOU'RE MAKING THE CHOICE.
THE CHOICE IS MAKING YOU. THE BRAIN MAKES THE CHOICE AND YOUR CONSCIOUSNESS MAKES THE CHOICE AFTER.
The ego is an illusion, you aren't making any choice, you think you are but that's just an illusion.
You never made the choice to go to bed, you never weighed up the pros and cons of going to bed or staying awake, you think you did but thats just an illusion, it's a cover for the clockwork underneath which is making the real choices.
Fucking hell you're thick as shit.
>>37806101
i agree with most of what your'e saying, i disagree with the conclusions you're asserting based on this. you're arguing from a very literal interpretation. the main point i disagreed with is the blanket statement "you don't exist," which is fundamentally wrong. what you went on to explain was mostly true, but this is an incorrect way to summarize.
>>37805965
Basically you're saying that, given a particular set of circumstances, a particular person will always make the same choice as long as everything is kept the same. And that because of this, the person isn't really making a choice at all. But that's not true, a choice is still being made. Everything in your development that has led up to that point, everything that makes up "you" is what pushes you one way or another.
Free will may not exist, but "you" do, and whether or not you'd always make a choice, you're still making one.
>>37806138
how is my finger up my as when i don't exist? you're posting the same thing over and over again, but there is literally no difference whether I decide to go to bed or whether a concoction of chemicals released by the low light and falling temperatures convince me to go to bed. its the same thing friendo, you're just having some kind of control crisis about it
>>37804501
please just more of this chick... no more damn philosophy
>>37806181
pretty generous to call what's happening in here 'philosophy'. it's more like someone blazed up while watching a discovery channel show about the brain
I know I should, but a sudden 2.2lbs gain that I can't account for is so scary, I don't want to fail ;-;
>>37805965
Is this you?
>>37806066
i'm not some big fat hater or anything, i just get annoyed at fat people who spread misinformation to make themselves feel better.
if i were to design a programme for that, i'd have a programme which focuses on the effects it has on the body, inside and out. i'd show build ups of visceral fat, fatty organs and the average fat body dissected - much like they've done in smoking campaigns here.
i'd show the effect their eating habits have on others - making their children fat and unhealthy through their habits and risking their health; much like smoking campaigns.
i'd attempt (ATTEMPT) to target social misconceptions of being fat, and the actual reality of what being fat entails.****
most of all, i'd put forward hope that there's change rather than just listing off a set of morbid realities and inspiring in them hopelessness and driving them further into the pringles tin.
***this is my main issue. there's a social issue. we all know it. putting it forward as such brings up problems because the people who disagree will use it to invalidate everything else said. pro-fat movements have people define themselves as being fat, they incorporate their physique as a part of their identity. if you therefore attack their physique, you are inadvertantly attacking them. this is why i disagree with those movements. it gives false information and makes people define themselves by things which are changable.
at the end of the day, you can rally out 80 points about why being fat is bad. people will use the "everyone but me" mentality that dominated smoking for decades. ultimately, making people feel socially outcast or away from the norm (smoking campaigns here did this by having people have to leave all of their friends in ads and stand outside in the rain to have a cigarette by themselves) then you will see the most change.
>>37806195
This picture triggers me so hard.
>>37806195
really makes you think
>>37806195
really makes your frontal cortex neurons to engage in rapid activation
>>37801003
This is shopped you fuck tards
>>37806205
>have to leave all of their friends in ads and stand outside in the rain to have a cigarette by themselves
this is kind of funny. i knew people that were "social smokers" in that they would never smoke by themselves, but if a friend went outside for a smoke (bar/restaurant or just visiting someone at their house) they'd go and smoke with them as well.
social eating is a widespread phenomenon too. if you're eating with others there's probably lots of food, maybe it's party servings rather than individual portions, or restaurants just serve big portions, etc.
>>37805159
I back this, same field of study and everything.
>>37806178
The difference is that you're a faggot who attacked the truth. I'm having no control crisis at all, I'm at total peace with the reality of the situation. You're the faggot who attacked me way back when I first stated that fatties making poor choices isn't as simple as yes or no.
Don't try to play the "i don't care" game now when you got triggered by >>37805450
>>37806168
>Free will may not exist, but "you" do,
No you don't.
>Basically you're saying that, given a particular set of circumstances, a particular person will always make the same choice as long as everything is kept the same.
Yes. If everything is the exactly the same in the exact same moment in space time then that person will always make the exact same choice. Why wouldn't he?
>Free will may not exist, but "you" do, and whether or not you'd always make a choice, you're still making one
So lets imagine you take brain damage to your prefrontal cortex which results in you having a decreased ability to control your impulses. Consciously you're making the choice to obey those impulses, but biologically there is a physical change to the brain which has resulted in that change. Let's say the opposite happens and suddenly you have sudden 100% control over your impulses, but then you get fed a drug which suddenly weakens that part of the prefrontal cortex. You won't know any difference, mentally you're making those poor choices but chemically there is a reason. Where does the blame lie? With "you" or with the drug you took to weaken that area of the brain?
Under the effects of psychedelic drugs you can change your entire character; are you still you? Just how much control over YOU do you think YOU have?
>>37806274
>I first stated that fatties making poor choices isn't as simple as yes or no.
if you had said that i would have agreed. except you said
> like all animals they will choose to harm themselves to feed that addiction
like there is no remedy for their addiction, because "rats love cocaine"
>the rats are proof
then you started listing brain anatomy, typing in caps, and taking a very "WAKE UP SHEEPLE" tone
>>37800422
LOL :D
>>37806274
>Yes. If everything is the exactly the same in the exact same moment in space time then that person will always make the exact same choice. Why wouldn't he?
it's impossible to argue for or against this, but consider that you can set up multiple experiments which are classically identical and obtain different quantum results
>>37806339
We're not talking quantum physics here buddy.
We're talking about getting a fatty in front of a doughnut and giving him the choice to eat it. And then we're going to make that moment into a time loop and repeat it over and over.
That exact fatty, with that exact physical biology, in that exact moment after having that exact day. I believe he will always eat that doughnut because that is where his headspace is at.
We are a result of our enviroment. And his enviroment will always be the same along with every moment which led to that moment.
>>37806317
>like there is no remedy for their addiction, because "rats love cocaine"
I literally said in the same post at the start of the part you quoted "The fats need to choose to help themselves". Stop trying to strawman.
>>37806274
If you've suffered brain damage, you aren't you anymore, or rather, you are, but who you are has changed. I exist, I have the ability to think and make choices. Obviously anything that alters one part is going to alter the whole. Whether that be drugs, damage, or new experiences. I am still me, though I am not the me that existed this morning.
Is anyone here arguing that they are separate from their physiology? There's no ghost, spirit or soul trapped inside of your body. You, your mind and your body are all one. "You" are a gestalt created by the summation of those things.
You seem to be implying that there's a separation between impulses in your brain and "you." I don't think that's the case. But just because my brain reacts a certain way to certain stimuli doesn't invalidate my existence. My consciousness isn't a passenger in my own body, constantly trying to interpret my body's actions as things it decided upon.
>>37806382
>I believe he will always eat that doughnut
well that's neat but there's no way to test whether the human brain is perfectly deterministic so you can believe either way and not be wrong
>come back from amusement park at Busch Gardens and drinks with mates
>lots of couples
>be sad about no gf
>come to this thread
>not sad about having no gf anymore
Thanks guys !
>>37800813
Dem titties tho
>>37799849
poor doggo
>>37806470
girls are bad, actually everyone is bad, just stick with your gymbro
>>37806409
>If you've suffered brain damage, you aren't you anymore, or rather, you are, but who you are has changed
>you aren't you anymore, or rather, you are
Are you even reading this shit back?
But anyway, how can you say you're in control of your mind? You've already acknowlledge that a change in the chemical state of certain areas of your brain can change your entire core character; and you have no control over that. So how can you be in conscious control?
Your brain changes and makes you make different choices, but you think you're consciously and logically making the new choices; when in reality you're simply a slave to that brain chemistry which has changed.
So how can YOU exist as a driver in control when you have no control over your brain chemistry. You're really clinging to this notion of "I am in control" even when the evidence is right in front of you.
Come on guy. Wake up. You don't exist. You're just a bunch of neural pathways formed from past experience. Every decision you make is a complicated mess of pathways making a decision based on balancing chemicals. The whole process of you deciding "for or against" is an illusion. You're being tricked into thinking you are making that choice consciously but you're not, the conscious part is just an illusion.
And thus I state, fatties aren't as simple to cure as "Just don't eat it". There is serious brain chemistry at work here, they can change but it's hard as fuck and it involves fighting their own psyche.
I'm not saying they're without blame; I'm saying it's not as simple as how you little inexperienced faggots are saying.
You're fat and you hate yourself? Your mind will decide to balance that negative state with a release of dopramine. But how can we get dopramine? By activating the reward circuit, experiences has programmed you into believing sugar is the key to activating that reward circuit. You don't want to but it's all you can think about you, your very brain chemistry wants it.
>>37806523
>not broken
>literally cant get dressed/undressed without help
how is this healthy???
>>37806338
You have to go back
>>37806537
Samefag here
Bed time for me now. Open your minds. Think of a time you did something really shit which you hate yourself for; but you felt compelled to do it because it made you happy.
It could be cheating, it could be letting a friend down, it could be selling someone out for your own gain. Something you feel guilty for but you did selfishly.
That was a result of poor impulse control. These fatties suffer from an increased form of that because they have a major addiction to dopamine. They're mentally imbalanced and they need help. Yes it's down to them to make that choice and stick to it; but it's as simple as selfish greed vs will power.
Get out in the world kiddos. It's more complicated than you neets would think.
>>37800813
Jawline
>>37805638
If i don't want to do something I won't do it. No need for the pseudo anon
>>37806604
tell your neurons to stop being so fucking autistic, jesus christ
>>37806098
>>37806076
This anon has a good message. You should sample less and make sure that you're not slipping up anywhere.
>run a small gym
>only date girls who are genuinely into fitness
>use fitness being my career as the excuse for turning down pre-fatties
>actually just petrified of marrying a girl who turns into a whale
>>37804501
Moar? Pls respond...
>>37806627
>He posts on 4chan
>He calls someone else autistic
Welp laddo
This thread hit me in the feels man...
When I was in junior high, I was a fucking whale at 230 pounds. I was made fun of and people kept flicking my man-boobs. I couldn't even finish running 1 mile under 15 minutes. So, I resolved to change myself and make my way down to 180.
By the end of high school (5 years later) I had gotten to 188 through playing in school sports, taking PE classes, and watching my diet.
This was the best years of my life. People stopped bullying me. I no longer sweat while doing nothing. My moobs dissipated. I wasn't out of breath from walking home. I could finally run a mile in less than 9 minutes. I became confident in myself.
After high school I got into college and stayed relatively the same weight. I had hit a plateau. After 3 years of being sediment, I decided to finish the fight and finally work off the last 8 pounds,
I started to run 3 miles a day every other day, swim laps in the pool, and do some strength training in the gym by using machines.
After one week of exercise, my weight jumped from 188 to 193. Three weeks later I went from 193 to 198. Five weeks later I climbed back up to 202.
What the fuck happened? I have heard of "bloating" occurring from doing tons of physical activities after being sedimentary for long periods of time. but this is fucking ridiculous. My diet has stayed the same (~1800 calories per day). The only major difference I can see is that my water intake has increased dramatically.
Is running a shit activity for losing weight? All through high school I played tennis and did swim. I'm feeling crushed at the moment as I am undoing all the work I put into my goal. My face looks really bloated now, and I can feel my moobs growing back. The upside is that I can now run for longer distances now.
>>37806954
watch your diet harder, youre just eating more after coming back from gym
take pics of yourself, often you can look better at 202 than at 188
>>37805394
My mom is a nurse. Fully agree with Anton's post. Knows what foods are the worst (tells fatties to lay off the sugar a lot) yet somehow is fat herself. Should would look 15 years younger of she lost the weight but she snacks like crazy.
>>37807336
Same thing with doctors and smoking. The mental gymnastics must be insane.
>>37806954
it's undoubtedly your diet.
you're either drinking or eating something that is more than making up for the lost calories burned during your exercise.
i'd advise logging literally everything you eat and drink that might have caloric content. this includes sugar, sugar was a sneaky bastard for me.
>>37807620
>>37807336
i've never known knowledge to equal wisdom
>>37806954
Might be muscle look at the before and after pics bro
>>37805641
>tall lesbian
>>37799792
No, she is now babby like Benjamin Button.
This thread makes me sad, I'm finaly happy in a relationship and I'm super concerned that she can blow up one day. Her mom is pretty average post-climax slavic woman, 99% of women get fat after climax and I have no idea how she looked before. My gf actualy lost 2kg of weight in the last year after she moved in with me, so I guess thats a good sign.
>tfw was 112kg, went down to 80kg, gained it all back. Currently weigh 105kg.
I made it then ruined it. Now I have to do it all again. Fuck.
>>37800067
How do I tell if my bitch has shit genetics
>>37806195
really makes your brain cells work like that time i solved a harakiri
>>37808529
Look at how her mom looks. Post pics of her
>>37800067
Tbqh i can sometimes see when A girl has shit genetics. Still I could nott see it with this girl
How the hell do these cucks let their girlfriends get this big?
I can't feel bad for them, it's their own fault for not calling them out
>>37805159
I can back this. I'm currently stuck at a business school that offers business programs and nursing programs. 90% of the nursing students are fat women, 5% are cute petite girls and 5% are average weight uggos. So glad I only share basic classes with these hamplanets. Short story to share about a hamplanet nursing student
>shared a class with this hambeast Lucianna
>Lucianna introduced herself to the class, said that she took up the program because her dad was dead sick
>I pitied her, knowing she will shares the same fate
>always really nice to her
>Lucianna has a terrible habit of bringing 10 bags of chips and snacks and at least 2 cans of soda with her into class
>will literally hear her munching and crunching when I'm trying to listen to the instructor
>instructor joked about knowing how Lucianna can multitask from having her in his other class
>Lucianna didn't cop the diss, thought it was a compliment
>one day we were made to share our life stories
>I shared my story and about how I dropped 50lbs from depression and starvation because I hated myself
>Lucianna flips shit, saying you can't lose weight by eating less or nothing at all
>she claimed it's my genetics and how I need to stop spreading lies
>I asked her if she or her family is healthy, explain that she's 400lbs because she eats 2000kcal every class
>Lucianna smugly claims that her entire family is healthy and how she's never been sick
>I asked why'd she lie about her dad being sick
>Lucianna finally shut up, I left the room shortly because I was steaming with this bitch
>>37805638
holy shit whats the difference grow up
>babbys first existential crisis
>>37808529
Look at her grandparents, if she's pear shaped and one of her grandma's is she'll probably have the exact same body size and shape in time
>>37800024
>>37800813
>>37801003
>>37804501
>>37804482
Thanks for these guys. I have shit genetics but finally took control and lost 2 stone (28 lbs) since Feb.
These are great motivation for me, keep up the good work
>have gf that looks like pic related but shorter and with smaller tits
>mom and grandparents are around the same size, but her dad is pretty big
>absolutely love her current body type, seems that she hasn't experienced much weight fluctuation in her life so it doesnt seem like Im just enjoying the middle evolution of a landwhale
>she wants to exercise but has nerve pain issues in her back that prevent her from lifting at all
can anybody give me a prediction on her future weight?
can I get a BMI, bf% or at least a weight estimate on pic related?
>>37808181
How does this even happen? You lost weight probably felt better and looked better and put it all back on
Seriously I don't understand people sometimes
>>37809605
You can't make predictions on stuff like that despite people claiming up and down they can "tell" when they're really looking at it in hindsight.
In the end, the most important thing is to have somebody with the right attitude (i.e. not prone to becoming complacent, has healthy habits, pride in oneself) and hope they keep it. You can do what you can within your power to encourage it.
Maybe a controversial opinion, but if you're not looking for an uber fit sculpted girl, it's not really a problem if she can't lift much due to nerve issues. Keep her moving and enjoying cardio and eating well and she's not going to get bigger.
>>37809605
Impossible to tell given that we don't know height etc and like 20 other variables.
I would say if she can maintain that body and you like it, then try to aim to keep that. Get her to weigh herself and then you can figure out how many calories she needs to maintain or to lose.
>>37809646
Well first some life changes happened. So I stopped running as much and bad eating habits started to creep in.
So I gained a bit back and I thought "oh that's not so bad, I can lose that easilly"
And i got back into it for a week but the habits are still there.
Then I kept gainin weight slowly. Weigh in again and you think "oh shit that's a lot" but the bad diet and attitude were in full swing.
Then I gained some more and finally think "fuck it"
And then it's back. Took about 2 years all together.
And of course you feel and look better when in shape, but like losing weight, gaining weight is a gradual process so I didn't notice a lot of it.
>>37808844
U should not tell people about your depression
>>37801708
You don't have to gain a pound of fat when pregnant. Also, good goyim.
>>37809605
Dude hook her up with some beginner power yoga routines on youtube that she can do like 5 minutes of at a time. You don't have to go to the gym and lift to lose weight or even get swole. It'd be retarded to let your girl go full Da Huuuuuudgemode because she can't do one type of routine.
>>37805047
She's just chubby bro. Not fat.
She even uses those high pants to hide the love handles.
>>37800813
Okay, here's the deal. I am a woman, I have seen tons of girls hamplanet it up after getting hitched. How do you know if she'll go Shrek Mode? For one, what does she eat now, and can she cook? If your hitch isn't cooking steak and veggies for you, but would rather feed you cupcakes and lasagna, I'll tell you what, that bitch will get fat. What do YOU eat? Women please their men. If you like energy drinks and chips, she'll eat them too, and I'll tell you what, you and that bitch will BOTH get fat. Does she exercise? One class at the yoga studio a month doesn't count. Just like shit, if it ain't regular, it ain't happening. Bitch will get fat. To avoid getting fat, girl should be on a high fat/high protien diet with no startches, low sugar, and absolutely no processed food. If you date a thick girl, and don't watch her food and exercise, she will inevitably get fat and you will be that normal guy.jpg with an embarrassing fat wide.
>>37810198
>wife not wide lmfao
>>37804501
Uh that's not the same bathing suit
>>37806624
holy shit can you just shut up
thats why i hate talking to dumb people
Like, where do you even start when someone comes up with shit like this?
>>37800813
Fatass arms on left.>>37800886
>>37800813
>>37804501
>>37809605
Those tits tho
>>37805638
>people don't choose, the choice is being made in their mind
Yeah, that's what free will is.
Ps. Back to /lit/
>>37799974
i would take all 3 of them to Slam Town
>population: My Cock
>>37809570
>I have shit genetics but finally took control and lost 2 stone (28 lbs) since Feb.
Miring dat dedication. Congrats anon.
>>37806195
that man was albert einstein :)
>>37801153
>tfw my mom is fat
n-no.
>>37805450
Are you retarded ? If there is no such thing as willpower then no one is to blame for anything since we can't control shit. Under your understanding, murderers and serial killers should be let out of prison since they can't control themselves. Let's let Tyrone free, he really dindu nuffin since it's all programming. While we're at it let's discredit every genius and inventor of anything ever since they didn't really have any control over their actions, they were going to invent those things as a preditermined event. Hopefully your next preditermined event is to hang yourself, you imbecil.
>attracted to thick girls a bit more than thin girls
>they're usually better at taking a pounding
> but from experience, they get fat more and end up with less energy than fit/thin girls
What do? Find a petite girl with a cuckquean fetish so I can keep fucking thicker girls on the side?
>>37810607
that's right animefag, right down to your genetics you are a fatty
>>37810638
I'll never become fat, and you making myths to scare away the boys is not very nice.
>>37810642
i bet your mom thought she'd never become fat
>>37810632
Just go with any woman who will have sex with you, you pathetic virgin
>>37810655
She doesn't seem to care. I care.
>>37810665
how do you know you will always care? what if you slip up?
>>37810664
Screw you man this is a serious concern
>>37810682
You have given me a lot to think about.
>>37805797
Neurofag checking in.
Can confirm, he has just taken his entry neuro courses
>reads in textbook "brain is composed of neurons and supporting glial cells"
>shitposts on /fit/ "YOUR BRAIN IS LITERALLY ONLY NEURONS AND GLIALS"
>>37805984
not always true, girlfriend's mother is a landwhale out of sheer laziness, being an alcoholic and drinking like 2 liters of mountain dew a day. meanwhile gf is super petite, hates alcohol and for years has been lifting/running. she's actually in better shape than me..feels bittersweet man
never let your gf drink if they have alcoholic parents
>>37810762
>not always true, girlfriend's mother is a landwhale out of sheer laziness, being an alcoholic and drinking like 2 liters of mountain dew a day. meanwhile gf is super petite, hates alcohol and for years has been lifting/running. she's actually in better shape than me..feels bittersweet man
>never let your gf drink if they have alcoholic parents
how do you know it will last ?
>>37810789
nobody knows, she may lose a leg tomorrow or get lymes disease. but i'm enjoying plowing her tight pussy every night while she's prime while you're too busy speculating on how women will look in the future
>>37810831
I don't want a gf tho.
but that poster was specifically talking about how you can tell that a slim girl might become fat in the future, not in her current state.
>>37799790
Just get a girlfriend and never get married, she will constantly have to worry about you cheating on her and will never get fat
>>37805450
You are full of shit. Eat a dick and die.
I crave candy and sweets and bullshit all the time HOWEVER I wanna die in a banging body, not feel sick and sluggish all my life, and detest a lack of willpower. A personal degree of rebellion allows me to override what my body craves, forcing it to do what my mind desires.
Get your weak willed faggotry hence numale.
>>37800813
>how can you detect if your gf is going to turn into this
poor diet consisting of premade products and getting drinks like coffee/frappuchino/starbucks shit with tons of sugar in it (if she can't cook this will be obvious), having a desk job or hobby with little physical activity, doesn't like exercise
>>37811502
Oh and alcohol. Women usually have shit that has a lot of flavoring syrup added to it or try to drink like one of the guys with a bunch of strong alcohol that has a lot of calories. Avoid girls who drink a lot.
>>37805450
>I eat clean but I know I couldn't go on a water fast for 7 days; because my brain wouldn't let me.
Water fasting is only unhealthy for you. All 'cleanses' are horrible for your body. Switching to a diet that doesn't contain sugar is the way to go for a fat fuck.
>>37806523
>close your mouth
kek
