The thing is that I've seen plenty of fit/muscular men and even obese (really fat) and hairy men get women easily.
It just doesn't make a lot of sense.
I have a job, dress well and talk to girls but still get rejected every time.
I suck at making convo's and I've been acting like a douchebag in general, because nobody likes nice guys (especially not girls).
Now I think I should get a gym membership and gradually become lean/fit just to get girls.
I hate to ask this, but how do you guys attract girls ?
Having a normal childhood/teenage experience.
If you reach adolescence/adulthood without ever having a girlfriend, or even just a "playful" semi-girlfriend, then you're pretty much fucked.
Just don't be a weirdo and put yourself out there.
>>37746035
if you're under 5'10 you're fucked.
>>37746061
Think of it like this.
People your own age have already leveled up and done all the instances and raids that you want to do. But you're new to the game and need to experience the older raids before you can move onto the new raids....but nobody is willing to go back with you to the out-dated raids in order to help you, they've already been there and experienced it, now they only want to play with other people at their own level of progression.
Does that make sense?
>>37746035
>I suck at making convo's and I've been acting like a douchebag in general, because nobody likes nice guys (especially not girls).
hm
>>37746035
Girls don't like douchebag chads anymore dipshit, they now prefer nice guys again
Do this sick Chad set to make u ripped
Kys x F
Face
>>37746087
Not op but that's depressing as fuck.
VR porn it is.
>>37746084
Not necessarily girls on average are pretty short you just need to be taller than them
>>37746035
>I suck at making convo's and I've been acting like a douchebag in general
>why can't I get a girl?
It's a mystery, OP.
face
money
being over 6"0
>>37746108
most will be taller with heels on.
>>37746035
Because you believe it's difficult and that you have to do some shit to impress a woman for her to be attracted to you.
Treat her like a human being, not a means to an end, a walking vagina, a trophy, a source of validation for your wounded ego. Just be fucking NORMAL! (REEEEEEEEE)
Most guys try to get women as a source of validation as a person/male. They sense that crap and it majorly turns them off.
If you aren't fun to be around, then they don't want you. Google TRP RED
>>37746122
Well I'm 5'2 that's not much of a bump in height, and my bfs 6' ft tall
>>37746035
FEAR on the guys part
>>37746035
Bumping out of interest
I'm rapidly getting natty /fit/ plus /fa/shionable but my biggest hurdle is being /soc/iable and sometimes I wonder if I'm just perma fucked, like if there is any way out or is this it and no matter what I do game over
>>37746061
Post related scares the shit out of me, 19, never had a girlfriend, never kissed, still a virgin
>>37746087
Unironically this is why I quit WoW, people would look at my achievements and feats of strength (new account) and wouldn't want to play with me.
Same exact situation happens in real life with women.
I've given up and just play single player now (games and life)
>>37746164
>I'm rapidly getting natty /fit/ plus /fa/shionable but my biggest hurdle is being /soc/iable and sometimes I wonder if I'm just perma fucked, like if there is any way out
If you want to get better at socializing and talking to women you have to socialize and talk to women.
It blows my mind how many guys here think their problems are going to be solved by lifting.
If you want to get good at something .... DO THE THING!
Are you going out every friday and saturday night and approaching women? Why the fuck not?
>>37746164
You're still young. Just keep making gains and maintain low body fat and take care of your face and hair
>>37746164
I was in your position, kissless virgin at 19. Now I'm 21 and have been with 3 women, and have a gf. It's not that bad for you desu senpai
>>37746187
normie advice.
You're telling someone who has literally never had experience with females to "just go out bro". Women will literally shit all over him from his inexperience and he'll end up feeling worse.
He can't just obtain 20+ years of experiencing socializing with the opposite sex over-night.
It's literally FACE, FRAME and HEIGHT. Unless you have at least 2/3 of those things you're fucked.
>>37746187
Wait, you're not a depressed helpless faggot trying to study women like a fucking textbook? What are you doing here?
>>37746187
Not OP but
Where do I approach women when I'm 19.
I usually get a girlfriend from my group of friends every once in a while.
Also, live in a small town
>>37746187
No because its summer and all the college students have scattered to the wind
>what about bars and clubs
Cant get in because not 21
I'm in a really shitty age limbo zone
>>37746201
I do all that, still worried
>>37746203
I sure hope so
>>37746211
I've read/ am going to read all of these
how to win friends and influence people, the definitive book of body language, talk language, a billion wicked thoughts
I'm also taking notes on all of them and memorizing the shit out of them
Will any of these even be worth anything or am I throwing eggs at a brick wall socially speaking?
>>37746087
That's a really good analogy.
>>37746211
How else is he going to get experience you numb nuts? He is 19. He has time
>>37746222
To shitpost like everyone else.
Isn't that what everyone does?
>>37746211
Also I don't know if these are good signs or if I am just being autismal for getting my hopes up but twice now I have asked girls for advice with my form on gym machines, I kept in mind the whole they aren't gods thing they are just people, and it just so happens that I really did need advice and they were the closest people so I asked and they helped
Both of them touched me on the arms and shoulders while saying to do X, I can't tell if those are really good signs or if they were just helping or both
Also I really did take their advice and now my form is good
>>37746246
Start small, like chatting 1 on 1 to women at a dog park or something.
Not going straight to the fucking club full of raging normies who will eat OP up like a fucking ant.
>>37746211
>Women will literally shit all over him
So what? "Failure" is just a learning experience. You'll learn more from a night of getting BTFDO by chicks than you will from reading books for a fucking month.
>>37746222
You can read that shit during the week. Weekend is prime time for gaming.
>>37746235
>what about bars and clubs
>Cant get in because not 21
So go to the area where all the bars and clubs are and talk to women on the street. If you live in a shitty town then take the train downtown. Like do you actually want to get better at this shit, or just bitch about it on /fit/? Be honest with yourself. How bad do you want it?
>>37746274
I wanna get better man but I don't think girls are gonna respond very positively if some guy tries tot talk to them on the sidewalk at night time
>>37746274
You're essentially telling OP to apply for Mythic raiding guild for main key raid spot when he isn't even level capped and has never raided before in his life.
>>37746264
If he is ripped enough. Drunk people won't care.
Dog park implys that he has a pet. Give options for a 19 year old.
Overall, good advice. Start small
>>37746261
>>37746261
Anyone?
>>37746298
Because in your mind you are a fucking creep trying to prey on women and take something from them. Your beliefs are ass backwards. You need to believe you're a valuable guy, than women WANT to talk to you, that you bring value and fun to your interactions, that you will make their night BETTER. Fix your fucking beliefs brother. And get out there and fucking pound the pavement.
Here's my advice from a guys who recently got into a relationship 9 months or so ago...
Be interesting. Go out and do things and explore your passions and begin invest in them. Girls/Women like a man who has gone places/done things. For me, it was as simple as being into hiking and having traveled to a lot of nearby locations.
Don't be desperate/overbearing. Nothing is more of a turnoff to a woman than a man who is trying to move too fast(unless its obvious you're just gonna hook-up...). It's OK to miss "signals" and what not but try not to be a TOTAL goober.
Being attractive helps a lot obviously but don't think you're out of the race because you don't have a chiseled jaw. A lot of woman are WAY more insecure than men.
And lastly, don't be afraid to take a chance. When I was in the late teens/early 20's(24 now) I missed A LOT of opportunities because I was too afraid of rejection.
How come no one has recommended SimplePickup on YT?
Great stuff imo
>>37746274
Not OP but would like advice for this >>37746223
I'm in a dry spell for about a month and I want to change that
>>37746301
I'm telling OP to go to his raid even though he's in greens and blues. He'll probably fuck up and wipe the raid a few times but if they see he's putting in a legitimate effort and has a good attitude they'll toss a few epics his way, and he'll be more prepared for the next raid and the next and the next until he's up there, toe to toe with the big boys.
>>37746317
Stop giving good advice, faggot. We'd rather listen to WoW references than practical tips.
>>37746334
OP just listen to this advice. You'll improve way better than complaining or reading a book.
>>37746317
>Don't be desperate/overbearing. Nothing is more of a turnoff to a woman than a man who is trying to move too fast(unless its obvious you're just gonna hook-up...). It's OK to miss "signals" and what not but try not to be a TOTAL goober.
That's something I think about sometimes, I know I'm not perfect with my interactions, I know occasionally a little bit of marinara sauce leaks out and I always wonder if that alone fucks me
Like will girls overlook it if you do everything else right or is that it your done? '
>>37746334
My general plan to make it is to keep doing the /fit/ /fa/ /soc/ shit and once the semester starts join a bunch of clubs and rush a bunch of frats
If I could get into a frat I'm basically guaranteed to make it socially and girl wise
If I don't then I dont know
>>37746331
I dunno man. Small town is tough. You can't even try different tactics because everyone knows each other I'd imagine. Can you take a train or bus into the downtown for the weekend?
Malls are OK. Festivals and other day events are ok. Street game on friday/saturday night is pretty good. I actually really like the street because I don't drink when I game and hate paying cover for clubs.
>>37746343
Stop making /fit a more non-normie place. It's the only normie place on 4chan
>>37746360
I wish I knew some guys like you and the others ITT but in real life so that I could have some guidance and shit
Instead I'm totally on my own lone wolf style
I think the frat guys would be that for me but they are so fucking hard to impress
Social gains are like physical gains.
You aren't going to walk into the gym for the first time and rep 2pl8 on bench. You have to start small and work hard. You need to be consistent with your training and have a good diet. Just like you aren't going to walk into a bar and start picking up 8/10s if you have never held hands with a girl before.
Start small. Go to a cafe and chat with the waitress or waiter while they take your order, smile at people as you go about your day, or give someone a compliment.
wow dude that sucks. once you turn 21 things will get way easier. are you in college now? talk to girls. ask them about homework and whatnot. i remember asking a girl for help on a problem and she not only asked my name but also emailed me asking to pick up papers for her. girls are just as thirsty as dudes. give them opportunities to hit you up and you'll be fine. don't pursue it, just put it out there so they can.
as for when you're 21 its gonna be great. literally one offhand comment about how the DJ is dope to some random chick and boom you're gonna fuck that girl. they eat that shit up. "Yo this DJ is dope, huh?" works every time. bars are a similar story. don't try that fucking "can I buy you a drink cuz I'm a beta and can only demonstrate value by showing you I have money and am incapable of unique thought." it doesn't work. sit next to her, buy yourself a drink. look around and comment on the age of the crowd "young crowd, huh?" works every fucking time. lounges and higher end bars are a fucking joke. as a 21 year old (assuming you have the money to post up in one of these places) you will be like fucking royalty. every dude there will be 40+ and those 25-30yr old women will be on the prowl. catch their eye. they will come over, no doubt. works every fucking time.
lifes gonna be sweet, man. just fucking kill it.
>>37746261
It's a good sign that they're touching you, but don't go all autismo and bring them the painting you made of them. Just keep doing what you're doing and racking up these minor victories. Then when you feel it's right ask a girl if she's single. If she makes a weird face or tells you she has a bf abort the mission, but if she tells you she's single and gives a cheeky smile you're in like flynn.
>>37746350
>If I could get into a frat I'm basically guaranteed to make it socially and girl wise
I think you're thinking about it wrong dude. Do you want to weasel your way into a situation where you will be able to latch onto scraps of pussy by luck, or do you legitimately want to improve your social skills and skills with women? Really think about it. If you focus on the process and practice then you will set yourself up for lifelong success. If you are just looking to get into a situation where you will get lucky then you are going to stay the same needy guy.
>>37746035
Use social media like every socially retarded fucker, this shit is so common girls will almost think you are a fucking weirdo if you talk to them in a bar instead of on instagram or tinder
>>37746393
I want the 2nd one but I feel like getting into a frat would make the 2nd one so much easier because I'd be surrounded by guys who live breath and eat it
Plus they could help me and shit
>>37746360
Thanks for the advice.
Trains are going to a major city which is 2 hours
All of the buses end at 6pm on weekends and weekdays 10:30pm
Festivals and events only happen every 3-4 months.
Only thing to do in my town is to go to mall, get invited to house party and eat at restaurants (highest obesity rate because of it, at least we get tested for new food products by chain stores, taco bell captain crunch donut hole)
I'll probably just keep expanding my group of friends until college starts again.
Where do I pick up at malls though, not used to it.
Being on a dry spell sucks
>>37746373
Listen to this guy, he's not bullshitting you. Add in that people with the right inborn gifts (genetics or predisposition to enjoy the process or whatever) are at a natural advantage, and if you let that put you off from trying then you deserve to fail anyway. "Boo hoo, that guy's genetics help him get gains faster than me, so rather than being the best I can be I'll just stay home and get fat." Take what you have and make it better.
>>37746087
When's the next Life expansion pack coming out so that I can get on everyone's level? ;_;
What do I say to him I talk to them?
>>37746035
Some guys don't try enough. Me for example.
>>37746235
>Will any of these even be worth anything or am I throwing eggs at a brick wall socially speaking?
It's like learning a foreign language, you can sit and learn grammar and vocab all you want but the only way to make solid progress is to SPEAK to people in that language.
Women are just human beings, I used to be super awkward around almost everyone because I was kind of a sheltered kid, my mum and dad would do literally everything for me and basically talk for me on my behalf at restaurants the the like. It wasn't until I went to college that I was forced to act like a normal(not normie) human being and interact with people.
Ultimately, in order to speak to people(including grills) all you need is confidence, and the knowledge that they're not waiting for you to fuck up. They're just interacting with you in the same way that you might do with anyone else.
>>37746459
Just be casual and say "Hi' next time you see either of them and just say "I'm XXXX by the way, I didn't get a chance to introduce myself(if you haven't done this already". If you have, just say Hi and strike up a small conversation(Holiday weekend, etc...) and try and gauge their reaction/body language.
If they keep talking to you and are actively trying to keep the conversation going, that's a good sign. If not, just say "Thanks again, have a nice workout" and just move on.
Key is not to come off as desperate.
>>37746035
>I suck at making convo's and I've been acting like a douchebag in general, because nobody likes nice guys
You're a fucking tool mate. All the girls can probably smell your autism and see how much of a dumb fucking poser you are.
Literally kill yourself.
>>37746035
OP, desire cannot be negotiated. Read this: https://therationalmale.com/2011/08/25/the-desire-dynamic/
https://therationalmale.com/2011/08/23/schedules-of-mating/
you have been lied to about women your entire life
>>37746504
tfw I havent seen them sine or if I have I haven recognized them
Also I was asking about the whole "what does it mean that they touched my arms and shoulders" thing
>>37746519
not him but fuck off your not helping
>>37746035
Same here OP. I don't understand the missing link that makes certain guys get the girls
>>37746527
Oh sorry. Don't think TOO much about the touching. It likely means they're comfortable around you(good sign). If I were you I would say afterwards the whole "hey I didn't get a chance to introduce myself yada yada..." and see how it goes.
Keep it casual.
>>37746035
Maybe you are just ugly.
Your face makes up literally 80% if not more of attraction.
And you are judged in the first 20 seconds someone sees you.
If you never had many girls show interest in you, you probably are ugly.
You have to put yourself out there constantly. Learned that recently, some friends will go out of their way to talk to girls, any girl they find attractive. They get laid more than I do even though they look like shit, because eventually someone will say yes. Even if they have to look like creeps to 99 girls, 1 in 100 wont walk away disgusted.
However hard you think getting laid will be, that's how hard it will be. Fear is your main enemy; it will cause you to drop spaghetti or (worse yet) do nothing.
Apart from practice, using social media, dressing yourself well and generally not being autistic, you must simply get used to it. Then you will relax and women will actually see you for who you are, instead of some nerd attempting a fake ass pickup act. Take heart though, because you have several factors in your favor that are easy to forget:
- Women don't place as much emphasis on looks as you do. She isn't thinking of you as "x out of 10" like you are with her. She's basically deciding if she "likes" you, which is based on tons of factors, which do include your looks, but none of these factors are make-or-break unless she's a total bitch. So whatever your weakness, you can work around it.
- There are lots of women in the world, even in smaller towns, and if even a small fraction would like you if they got to know you, you'll get more pussy than you can handle. Numbers are in your favor, IF you make a large number of attempts.
- Women are looking for dick too, as has been pointed out. But in a sense they're even more incompetent at doing so than we are - because they take a passive role and wait for you to come to them (which is sort of what permavirgin men tend to do - wait and see what comes their way, instead of acting). Keep this knowledge in mind: women have basically zero game, and they're just hoping they'll get attention. Give them some.
- Conversation is not that hard to make. It seems like its hard to talk to girls because you're nervous and you think you have to say the right thing. But you don't, you just have to be friendly and responsive. Just talk to her like she's an old friend and you have no interest in fucking, and you'll find the conversation comes easily.
Good Luck.
>>37746114
money
money
money
>>37746035
You attract girls by being better than their father. That's it.
>>37746589
>dressing yourself well
Question on this. I'm about to come into some excess school money, and was thinking about using some of it to buy some new clothes. However, I'd hate to buy new clothes only to have them not fit by next year when I have more gainz to show.
Should I hold off until later (I should be getting the same amount of money next semester and next year) or will I not put on enough mass in a year's time for it to matter?
>>37746126
this is the correct answer
the red pill theory
honestly man, you just have to unashamedly be yourself. don't put on any sort of act. dont use canned lines. just be yourself for yourself and that will create attraction. be down to earth. be a little weird, but confident about it. not fucking creepy weird. be self-deprecating, insightful, funny, and genuine.
get /fit/ and dress well and be this cool, genuine person. you don't have to be a douche. dont be a beta nice guy throwing out compliments and rushing to help girls in any way you can. but you can be nice to an extent. some playful teasing is cool. standing up for your beliefs, especially when she disagrees is also cool. just dont be a dick about it.
i dunno, thats what the last 8 years have taught me and i've gone from considering the possibility of dying a virgin to fucking numerous broads.
>>37746658
What if yourself is a neckbeard nasty faggot?
>>37746035
Just because some obese guys get gfs doesn't mean they all do, I know tons of fat guys who are permasingle. They just never go outside though so you don't notice how many of them there are
>>37746716
>They just never go outside though so you don't notice how many of them there are
basically this
theres literally millions of shut-in men, everytime i go out its like 30% men, 70% women.
>>37746687
asocial neckbeard with no hygiene/ambition/drive for life is a symptom of a mental illness.
it's something you fall into bruh.
>>37746164
At school or whatever you at just greet most of the dudes around you every day. "How are you" and what not or just short shit like sup or hi. Sooner or later one or two dude will make small talk and shit. And sooner or later you will meet a bro. Leech friends off your bro. Most likely your bro will have friend similar to him so you should bond quite easily. If your bro have female friend hang out with her more and shit. If no female then make bros with in the group and leech friend of him. Repeat bro leech till you get gf. Or repeat the whole thing from the beginning to make new group of friends. If you repeat enough of those you may have enough experience to go meet girls by your self and no longer leech friends off your bro. Good luck !
>>37746035
Stop "acting" and just be a genuine person.
Even if you manage to pull while being a phony piece of shit (see: PUA bullshit) all you'll pull is another broken person who defines their worth by getting fucked.
>>37746087
Excellent analogy
Made me very depressed
>people STILL think it's about money
I hate this meme so fucking much.
There's goldiggers out there. You don't want them. Women just expect you to have your basic shit together. It's like being at a strip club and getting fake love, if that's what you think it is that's what you'll get.
There's an algorithm to it. I've seen a lot of deadbeats get really good hook ups, so it can't be money.
>>37746764
except the analogy fails to point out the majority of people are shit at relationships.
like the majority of raiders are shit at the game, have no understanding, and are quickly gkicked.
there's little difference between someone who has been in a relationship and somebody who has not been in a relationship.
>>37746087
just masturbate yourself to a high enough level that you can solo the old raids. You get things in the wrong order, but at least you get them :^)
It has to do with resisting the natural expression of your emotions and personality. Some of the biggest phonies are shut ins because they rationalize everything and live life by beliefs and mind, instead of feeling and heart.
>tfw a girl likes you
>>37746888
>last time a girl liked me was in middle school
>I'm 19
How fucked am I?
>>37746035
>I've been acting like a douchebag in general, because nobody likes nice guys (especially not girls).
You unbelievable retard. Girls like muscular rich douchebags because they're rich and/or muscular, DESPITE being douchebags, not because they're douchebags.
So you've been miserable, dyel AND a douchebag and you still wonder why nobody likes you.
>>37746909
>not because they're douchebags.
No because douchebags are confident
>>37746108
Avg height of gril is like 5'8" or something. Maybe more. If you're not perceptably taller then you're fucked.
>>37746970
Like 5'11 ???
>>37746892
Last time a girl liked me was....
n-never(mind)
>>37746035
>>37746261
well... here goes nothing.
what you are doing right now is overthinking it. I know that this is what we generally do, I am just giving the cancer a name. it is a good sign that you weren't too repulsive for them to touch you, but they probably didn't get all wet from getting asked about proper form and were just helping. the problem is that you are so caught up in "I can't talk to wimmin halp" that you overthink the simplest interaction with females.
I have to agree with the majority of sensible posts in the thread that the desperation kissless virgins reek of is their true problem. it acts as a blockade on their mind to function properly so they enter manual walking mode every time they see an even remotely attractive female human. it also makes them needy on every level: they need validation, they need intimacy, guidance, etc. even if you manage to contain the spaghetti, women (and men for that matter) smell that shit. men won't care as much, simply because you are no threat to them and still treat you okay if you are somehow useful or a nice person in general. women have no reason - literally zero reason - to waste even a second with people acting that way. I can try and elaborate or attempt to word a way out of the dilemma, but this would be my analysis to both the guy I responded to and OP.
>>37747010
At least you still have Maki.
>>37746909
>>37746962
ive acted like that and gotten girls, and then lost girls just as quickly cause of that.
what i learned is to be somewhere in the middle, not really an asshole, not really a pushover, just a friendly dude who likes to have fun and tease girls and friends lightheartedly.
aka normal
the greatest part is i dont have to wake up and pretend to be anyone, who i am comes naturally and effortlessly, like it should and can be for everyone else.
>>37746223
Go partying or clubbing. That's how I do it.
>>37747017
Like every single other weeb who watched Love Live
>>37746821
Exactly.
60% game
20% gainz
20% money
>>37747015
More elaboration and more advice on how to get out of it
Also the girls were smiling and seemed to be nice
>>37746739
this
>>37746035
You need to demonstrate value to her on some level.
>i have a job, dress well
So do most other men.
>douchebag
yep you say this because you dont understand women
you've got pussy on a pedestal son, that is why you fail.
>>37746035
Be honest with me, how many girls have you actually asked?
Most people in your position haven't really tried as much as they think. They focus on one girl for ages and then it doesn't work out, by the time you ask out 3 girls this way it's been fucking forever and you feel like you're constantly being rejected, but at the end of the day you have barely asked out many people at all.
If you talk to more girls and just stop caring about the outcome you will find there's so many of them willing to do lots of things you might not expect if you just ask.
When I was leaving the gym the other day I randomly asked one of the reception girls who was leaving if she wanted to come get something to eat, barely even seen her before. She said yes and somehow we ended up fucking later.
Wasn't planned or anything, just keep talking to people.
>>37747047
You really just need to get over yourself a bit. You aren't that fucking special to be so autistic you can't even talk to a HUMAN FEMALE.
They are just human being m8. Stop thinking it matters that much.
by being a white guy in Japan who can speak japanese
>s-s-seriously it's true guyz
>>37747017
2D>3DPD :^)
R8 experience
>4 to 15 caught shit just for existing
>15 to 18 people tried to talk to me and be friendly
>had one gf in sophomore didn't take it far ended offer two months
>asked girl to prom and turns out she wanted something serious but didn't pick upon it
>generally did talk to girls in hs albeit autistically
Never really made connections that last. Am I a normie or what? Scared shitless of girls in general even though most of my friends ever were chicks and major childhood scaring
>>37747094
I haven't even seen Love Live but jfc Maki's really hot.
>>37747015
Im thinking this oversexualization of normal activities is due to more watching porn than actually interactimg with women, time yourself, if you watch x amount of porn then you need to interact with actual women 3x that amount of time, or just stop watching cold turkey. It will help.
Why do you think any woman would be prepared to deal with an emotionally damaged man who is afraid of being touched?
It's a mans job to do that, whenever someone shows any interest towards me, it's like giving food to a wild animal that is on the brink of starvation. I don't really know how to deal with it and get extremely defensive and question peoples motives.
I don't like myself, I don't really have any solid friendships, only had 3 practice gf's as a child, but never went further than kissing. Almost a 26 year old virgin and I've never felt I have loved anyone or even been loved by someone. The love my parents gave me was and is also conditional, so I they don't really know shit about me, because I'm too afraid to tell them.
I pretty much don't give a fuck anymore, because right now I'm focused on living in a way that I don't off myself and I'm trying to find my place in the world.
Long time ago I decided that if I'm not good enough, as I am, I'm willing to be alone for the rest of my life. I'm not going to sell myself or act agains my best judgement.
I really don't have any objective problems of big fuckups in my past. I'm just lonely as shit and people don't really know how to deal with me.
>>37747047
I'll try. >>37747077 wasn't me, obviously.
For most guys stuck in this zone the problem is mental. Some are just fat ugly disgusting neckbeards, but I'll just assume I'm talking to / about people who look normal or even sligthly /fit/ter than the average human bean.
Mentally the issue is party caused by media and society creating certain blueprints. Films, advertisements, books, games, you name it - they all teach society a few things about sex: sex is the end goal; women only have to look hot, even they're dumb and hot they're still worthy of a superhero.
SEX IS THE END GOAL - that's one of the biggest issues or maybe even the main problem. Sex is awesome, but it's just another fucking thing. Women are not just a thing attached to a pussy and tits, they're humans. They can be beautiful, ugly, annoying, smart, dumb, just like every single male person you have ever met.
Now here we get back to the desperation: You seem to be very focussed on the fact that you have never had sex. That thought governs a lot of your mental activity. It is a negative thought, and instead of just focussing on what you need to do you ponder it. I am not trying to pretend just thinking positive will change your life, but if you constantly just think about one negative thing from all angles you'll not make any progress nor feel good about yourself.
YOUR VALUE AS A PERSON OR EVEN POTENTIAL MATE DOES NOT DEPEND ON YOUR SEXUAL EXPERIENCE OR PROWESS OR DICK SIZE OR BICEPS CIRCUMFERENCE.
That should be a mantra every fucking /fit/izen should truly remember. Your value as a person depends on what kind of person you are. If you tend to do the right thing whenever it matters, you're probably a decent person. If you can make people laugh or happy or move them with interesting stories that's what you are to them. Additionally, females are not as focussed on appearance as men are - just a rule of thumb, exceptions granted.
1/?
>>37747102
Ikr, she really is fucking hot
>I haven't seen love live
Watch it
>>37746087
Just whoa, solid reply my bro
>>37747114
Obviously, exceptions tend to group together and do activities that fit their profile, so in a club you probably have a higher focus on looks even on the female side compared to a campus. I have never gotten into a relationship with any of the girls I made out with at parties or clubs. Every single girl / women I fucked was into me because of my intellect, attitude, personality - me looking somewhat /fit/ by now definitely helped, but it was never a deciding factor.
I was never one to advocate the "go to parties, fuck sluts" approach. It is stupid unless you fit in there, which you won't. Meet women where you are comfortable and more importantly where you'll find women you have interest in. I keep meeting amazing women at university, because I need at least some intelligence on a woman if I want a relationship with her. For fucking, I'd recommend anything sports-related, just not the gym. Tennis or climbing come to mind. The latter makes it hilariously easy, as you have to rely on one-another.
2/?
I need to go to sleep please keep thread bumped later people
>>37747114
>YOUR VALUE AS A PERSON OR EVEN POTENTIAL MATE DOES NOT DEPEND ON YOUR BICEPS CIRCUMFERENCE
Nah you're just trying to trick me m8
Honestly OP your best chance is getting drunk
>drink enough till you can talk to women
>go up and talk to them
>make them laugh
>if fail try another women
>none of that works, hit the D floor and dance like you don't give a fuck
>girls you haven't hit on and failed will notice you having a good time
>they usually make themselves near you
>accidental bump into you is a key indication she's into you
>engage but don't get too clingy, just Dance and have fun
>when you feel a connection go I for your hand around her hip
>if you feel a positive response go in for the grind
>after a bit of grinding pull her around so she's facing you
>look into her eyes and then lips and then eyes and smile
>pull her in for the kiss
>after awhile of dancing ask her to come outside for a chat
>their ya go you've got her attracted enough for your shit chat to last a bit longer
>talk about a movie from ya child hood, eg lion king
>she'll be like I love that movie
>tell her you have it and invite her home to watch it
>once their if you don't know what to do you deserve to remain a virgin
Hope this helps. This isn't how I usually pull and I chat girls cause 10+ drinks give my usual gift of the gab the gift of the gods and have managed fucking some slut under an hour of meeting her
Protip, have a condom
>>37747140
If there is a bottom line to this, it's rather simple: Stop making sex your end goal. You are not worthless, unless you are, and if you are you can change. Take charge of your life, and don't try to do it by validating your struggling ego through someone else. Take all the validation that comes easily, but don't depend on it. Take a good hard look at yourself: are you a piece of shit? Change! Are you doing okay? Keep going. Keep improving. Do things you enjoy. Do things that make you stronger, work on your weak points. Think about what you want for yourself in life. Women can play no role in that, unless your end goal is to have a happy family and 4 kids but in that case I can't help you. Women are a nice addition to what you should go for right now, they can be great companions, but they are NOT the goal themselves.
Stop watching porn. You can and should masturbate, but do so without watching porn. Porn fucks with our minds and it supports an industry of rape, human traficking and inhumane interactions. No-Fap is a meme that builds off the benefits of not watching porn, so the actual results of the latter get mixed into the stupid preaching of promoters of the first.
3/3 for now, I have to leave for university.
Just for reference, pic related is me, I am currently 26 years old. I have only had sex with 5 girls / women, been in a 2-year-relationship to start it off from 16-18 years old. My current relationship has endured for a whopping 10 months.
>>37746312
Not that guy, and you're probably not lurking anymore but thx for that.
Big difference between getting laid and getting a gf. The main issue I see when guys struggle is their game. They don't know what to say to grab the attention. Imagine if you have 30 girls talking to you, they're all similar to eachother, how do you pick? That's in a way a girls life. Now imagine an awkward guy that keeps saying he's shy, something girls don't like, and messaging then none stop of "how was your day, how are you, oh cool what did you have for dinner" unless you're very, very attractive they'll stop replying. There's also appearance, if you dress with cloths that don't fit well, no hair style, ect. You're not something they want. You need to grab their attention but also need to be date worthy and not make them cringe.
I could write a whole article on the steps you should take to change your success with women.
I was once the typical faggot who tried to get laid and I've read more self-help and PUA books I'm willing to admit.
So before you spent money on books, memberships and seminars read the Book of Pook.
You can find it online at it is free. I do not agree with everything he says but the basics are on point. I've read countless other books and found the same advice already mentioned by Pook.
I'm not saying it is the only book you should read, but I would suggest to start with it. Because it is free, a fast and entertaining read. There other great books worth every penny, even really bad books have value because it forces you to rethink what you already know.
>>37746739
Holy shit, that somehow blew my mind.
TO OP:
>be me
>26 years of being fat, miserable, alone, khv
>tbf was pretty sociable always
>turn my life around, get /fit/
>discover this PDF called 'the book of Pook'
>everything I thought I knew about attracting women was wrong
>read it like 5 times and put in practice
>fuck bitches left and right
I avoided wizard status only by a few months, but I did it the most just way possible. By banging almost a dozen 8/10s in the span of less than a year.
I was literally the most pathetic case ever. But I made that shit work. If I can do it, anyone can. Read the PDF.
And like some other anon said, go out there and DO it. Talk to women, get rejected, get laughed at, fail. It is the only way to truly learn.
>>37746235
>Cant get in because not 21
Holy Crap
>>37747205
>>37747207
>>discover this PDF called 'the book of Pook'
What a coincidence.
>>37747231
It wasn't a coincidence m8 I willfully attracted it in my life I guess.
If you think it's me advertising my own shit or something, you're wrong. The Book of Pook is just a collection of forum posts some guy called Pook made and it's fucking spot on on how to really attract women.
Also, its free on the internet.
https://bookofpook.neocities.org
I'd suggest any anon struggling with women, sex and/or love to read it with the utmost attention.
>>37747255
I was quoting myself and your post.
>>37747169
You have to be 18+ to be on this website.
>>37747180
You look good m8 no homo
>>37747271
Yeah Im a moron, never mind.
forget PUA, forget game forget everything.
I AM the most autistic dude on /fit/ at one time with women.
Because i was blessed with height 6'4. i have fucked up with women in just about every way. but i'm good looking enough and they keep coming back.
Ask ME anything.
my credentials
tons of spaghetti stories
22 years old
44 women fucked.
this is what a chad looks like.
>>37747336
virginty lost at 19
ask me for my spaghetti stories
pic related, my manlet friend i cucked.
>>37746035
Semi related, Has anyone else had problems with average looking girls? Like i spend most of the time lonely and just want someone to date and average girls will always shut me down. But when I do have a gf/fling they're always a lot more attractive then the girls that reject me.
>>37746035
Most of the time there is a disconnect between when you want, and what you can provide.
I don't like the idea of a league system, but lets just use it as an example. When you look at a girl and she is an 8, that 8 is not based on looks alone, it is a combination of looks, personality, interests and dislikes. If you keep going for 8s, and you are a 5, you will lose out.
Critically evaluate what you are, and aim for something at that level, and you will have more luck.
TLDR: Lower your standards till you find someone.
>>37747336
Jesus Christ I can really see how, as soon as you start talking, you fuck up everytime.
Also
>that wall decoration
The truest of autismo
>>37747354
>>37747336
the majority of the girls i fuck are average. Just because average doesn't mean easy. i call myself the 6/10 hunter.
average girls are easy, but you have to be at least two points ahead of them to get them.
they're not unachievable.
if you cannot get average, go for lower. bite the bullet
go way below for a long enough time that you're confidence is (hopefully not low from onlhy being able to fuck below average)higher and go get those 6/10's they fuck just as good as any
>>37746061
Can not confirm. Was kissless shy beta virgin till 21 or 22... then found a slut, gradually gained confidence and fucked more than 20 girls within 4 years.
>>37747371
I just said i have problems with average girls, the girls i end up getting i actually find attractive
>>37747360
it doesn't happen anymore because i'm a different animal now. it's not that i have some secret. im attractive, i don't chase girls as much, and they notice.
But i went up to a girl at a club last year. she was hot, she had a hot friend.
"Can i butt fuck you" i said. and held out my ciggarette
The girls looked at me shocked
"we haven't tried anal" they replied
I look around, look down. "I'm sorry guys, i'm just so nervous, i don't know what to say now"
They laugh at my face, "we can tell"
"should i leave?" i say frightened
"yes" they say
and thats just one.
>>37747336
Show penis
>>37747201
>There's also appearance, if you dress with cloths that don't fit well, no hair style, ect. You're not something they want. You need to grab their attention but also need to be date worthy and not make them cringe.
Dressing well i can understand, but hairstyle? Do you really need a fucking hairstyle?
IS it just me or is the modern day man gay as fuck?
learn some bartender shit, work at a bar in a city where people party, get tons of contact with girls, start going out with the people you work with, get all the pussy you can desire
>>37747393
i don't need a hairstyle. i go out like this
>>37746626
Go buy some jeans n tshirts n shit, maybe a nice shirt that fits decent without spending a fortune. Its 2016, noone gives a shit about what brand you're wearing as long as it doesnt look like dogshit tier stuff
>>37747407
Looking faggy
>>37747393
You don't need a style, just don't look like shit. My hair looks terrible if I let it grow natty so I have to cut it.
If you look like you don't give a shit about yourself then people see that.
>>37746970
>Avg height of gril is like 5'8"
Are you trolling or are you just retarded? Average female height is 5'4-5'5.
>>37746821
>There's goldiggers out there.
That's 95% of all females. They're biologically programmed to seek out mates that can provide for them and their children.
>>37747416
faggy?
yeah... no i'm masculine as fuck
around here i see alot of good looking swedes pulling girls and it pisses me off
i'm brining back the ruggid
>>37747427
>those child bearing hips
>>37747426
I can tell you're a bitter virgin by the beliefs you have
>>37746087
Yes, no and it doesn't even matter.
There will always be new players in the game and you'll always be more experienced than these players that are first coming in.
If a man plays his cards right he will age with value unlike a woman.
Focus on yourself and your value will increase 10 fold. You'll be a far better investment to all the new players in the game and have your pick of the litter.
tl;dr you didn't miss out on shit. use this time wisely to build yourself that will attract the type of people you want in your life.
I used to be fit and then let everything fall apart.
I'm easily 15 pounds overweight now, but It's never slowed me down when it comes to picking up women.
It's all about your personality and charisma. Luckily for me I was born with a few extra portions.
Even if you get fit, it won't 100% compensate for being an autistic wonderkin.
I think I have some more pics
>>37747371
I have too much self respect to fuck any girl below a 7
>>37747386
bro you were so in there after they said "we havent tried anal"
This one is pretty enraging, just don't be like this guy
>>37747451
i don't have to read that to know how to escape the friendzone.
You don't put yourself in the friendzone in the first place. The friendzone is a last resort so you can use so you can meet her friends after she rejects you if she does.
Or maybe i'm just cold hearted towards women so ive never been in the friendzone for good reason.
I wish i could make friends with women (non sexually)
i think that will be my goal this year.
make a female friend or two
could any of you friendzone guys out there tell me how to make a friend thats a girl?
The closest i have had to making my own female friend was essentially flirting the whole time, but no actual move made? is that how its supposed to feel?
with a girl i mean
>>37747010
>>37747017
>>37747026
>>37747094
>animeposting on my /fit/
so this is what it has come down to
>>37747482
literally just talk to her
>>37747464
yeah, that was the beggining stages of my clubbing nights.
You ever have those nights where you just can't do it? that was one of them.
I do better now, because i lower my expectations.
Chicks are less threatened by me now. but i definetley had my "approach every girl like an asshole" nights
i think everyone needs those.
In my case, learning through failures has greatly helped me suceed
>>37747501
are women worth being friends with if you don't fuck them?
maybe they can lead you to other females?
>>37747427
>good looking swede
>pulling girls
>>37747507
reposted from my post in another thread
>>37747435
female best friends are trash anon
50% chance they get a crush on you and make shit weird
49% chance they use you like an emotional tampon
1% chance she's decent
male friends are 500x better and they actually help you when you need help
Female friends are only good for practicing flirting otherwise you degrade yourself to an emotional tampon that doesn't command respect. I refuse to be friends with a girl that isnt attracted to me because the friendzone is sucky even if you arnt attracted to them, as they view you as a nonthreat and as an emotional tampon.
>>37747502
club sluts are trash anon, I put in way too much work into myself to degrade myself with a woman that puts in none
>>37746504
Doesn't always work that simple. A woman will sometimes keep a conversation going but still have no interest in you.
Trust me. I know this.
>>37747527
That is true. Nothing always works.
Still beats doing nothing
>>37747521
i know right?
some girls like the fresh faced pretty boy look that swedes have (blonde)
i'm happy, i bring the swede height if not taller, and a more ruggid style.
i live in a town with a big UC there are a lot of fucking swedes
but the women are hot though. fuck...
>>37747484
>anime on an anime image board
Who knew
>>37747466
that can't be true
>>37747393
>doing yr hair = gay
>>37746035
The autism is strong with this one fucking hell
>>37746061
This is false. I never touched a girl until i was 23. Since then i have had sex with multiple girls and currently have a stable gf.
>>37747570
I would like to think that too, anon.
>>37747295
It's legitimately good advice if you just want a fuck, you sperg.
>>37747633
Thanks bro, I put a lot of effort into that post to help a brother out get some tail
>>37746035
Just get a cute dog and you're set. Honestly.
>>37747668
have you had any first hand experience with that? if so would you mind sharing a story?
>>37746526
>cannot be negotiated.
Well not in the literal sense.
Im married, about 2 mth ago my wife started getting very pssive aggressive, she even threatened divorce. We didnt have any sex
At first i tried to be nicer, i did the usual, flowers and so on. Shes not a bitch, but these things didnt really win her over.
So it got to the point where i got pissed off, and said fuck it and went on some dates with other women (just dates no sex). This really changed her behaviour and she started being very receptive to patching our marriage up.
You cant approach women in a direct and equal way, that doesnt work
I have a terminal case of recurring oneitis. I have never been able to find more than one woman attractive at a time. It's annoying.
When it comes to getting love from women, there's actually only a single rule. Dont be boring. It doesnt matter which Social class you come from, how good your looks are or whatever, if you're a dial tone you are fucked basically. Think about that.
Lmfaooooo look at all these experts reply. XD
>>37747771
quoted for truth
bro had a gf angry at him so I told him to give her flowers and a gift, she was happy for an hour then she got bitchy again. One day later she came over to argue and he said "fuck you" then kissed her which eventually lead to sex. They've been happy since.
attraction is primal
either you have it or you don't
it can be learned but only applied to other females who also have to learn it.
good luck
>>37747738
Not him but I'll chime in with my experience in this.
It's a great opener for women that can be out of your league. They tend to be a chick magnet. Women "out of my league" will come up just to say hi and pet my dog.
You can take that situation in so much directions at that point. You can ask if they have a dog too, know of any good dog parks, you tell them you're new to the area and looking to meet new people to hang out with (chick talk for I'm new in town and looking for new friends)
Apparently, you'll get more swipes with a cute dog in your tinder profile as well than you would if you were with your best m8s at a festival.
tl;dr dogs are possible man's best wingman. They can't trash talk you, they won't stab you in the back, they probably won't ever screw it up for you.
>>37747784
Jesus fucking christ. Me as well.
I'm pretty sure a remedy is to just have more than 1 female friend at a time.
>>37747824
that's a nifty little trick, thanks for the info, buddy
>>37746087
So you're saying OP should target 14 year old girls?
>>37747850
are you implying that everybody shouldnt?
>>37747850
>>37747860
guys shhh you'll blow my cover
>and talk to girls
Well theres your problem right there. Pretend you have 11/10 gf and ignore them, then they MUST get you, their ego cant handle the fact that they cant get you. Humans always want that which they dont have or cant have. And since you will be both you will be irresistable.
>>37746035
>tfw had gf from 15 to 22
>tfw 23 no gf
>tfw autismo
>tfw do not know how to flirt
>tfw not gonna make it
>>37747850
No, what I am saying is that he is fucked.
Unless he can find a female 18+ that is at the same level of progress than him.
(What's funny is that 14 y/o girls have more experience than OP)
>>37747908
>shiggidy diggidy do
I hope that I'm never like you
>needing women
in the year twenty-six-ten
>>37746087
You could always be a pleb and use microtransactions to level up, aka whores
>>37747930
>using the real money auction house when you can just grind low level mobs and work your way up to bosses
>>37747920
You don't fucking level up social skills. Life is not an RPG you fucking autistic piece of shit.
is tinder a shit?
i've had 2 gfs over the course of 5 years
i'm 25 now
anything wortwhile for a serious relationship? can't seem to find a "normal" girl for me outside, so will dating apps demolish my view on dating?
>>37747947
but it is
>>37746087
>tfw silver 3 in real life and the new matchmaking system wont let me play with anyone thats above gold nova 3
Y
>>37746035
>i suck at making convos
You need to quit 4chan. I'm serious.
>>37747957
tinder is not where you find a normal girl bro. not that I'm an expert but it's basically a meat market for loose sluts and spam bots
>>37747967
so my dating life is literally over then
>>37746609
Money will get you a wife. Some of the hottest girls i know will fuck jobless drug-addict losers for a few months at a time though, because they have tattoos and a nice face and are an adventure for the girl.
I'm tired of autistic 4channers blaming their lack of money for why they dont have a girlfriend. Any normal person can find sex just falling into their lap every now and then; it's your toxic personalities not your wallets.
Look at all of this, look at you. Do you think Stacey spends hours reading social advice on forums? All this energy spent and your next important social interaction will still fail.
You need to understand this now anons, before you go full /r9k/: being a social recluse is not endearing.
Being obsessed with Japanese cartoon women is not cute, nor is it interesting for anyone outside of fucking 4chan.
Grow up. Stop being a manchild. Get a car and an education. Stop using terms like normies and NEET.
If you stop living like a degenerate you won't need to spend hours on 4chan reading advice from losers just as socially inept as you are.
>>37747980
man, I dunno. you could try tinder but I wouldn't and I've never had a girlfriend. personally I'd rather die a virgo than settle for what is essentially a whore
>>37746035
>Suck at making conversation
Literally all you have to do is take a genuine interest in something about a grill's personality or accomplishments. NOT HER BODY. If she has nice tits, at least 1000 guys have told her that, so congratulations, you're #1001.
If she likes painting, great. Ask her about it. How does it make her feel? All that shit. It doesn't really matter what you ask as long as you are genuinely interested in finding out about her. This is a subtle signal that tells her you value her more than whoever else is around at that time.
Seriously, just do that, and you'll find conversation flowing much easier.
>>37748003
well shit
>>37746223
Church or charity work if you wanna find a good one
>>37746109
this.
nobody is as pathetic as the guys who try to be dickish to get girls.
Girls like nice guys. they hate spineless, clingy losers. everybody does.
>>37747947
M8 calm down he's just using an analogy to help peeps understand
>>37748005
Bullshit. This doesn't work unless you are attractive. If you aren't top tier cute to her, then you're just an acquaintance grilling her for info.
Nothing fucking works. It's all hopeless and none of us will ever be appreciated or loved. We will die alone and unwanted. Unmissed and unnoticed.
>>37746350
fuck off, you even live in the us and go to an american college, with fucking FRATS.
You're on easy street. I switched to my uni second year, all the groups were made, and there are literally no extracurricular clubs
>>37747957
you can meet a relationship on tinder now
its trending towards relations now. the peak of tinder is going down.
>>37748022
I can tell you what my plan is, maybe you can get some ideas for yourself. the first thing I've done is become well comfortable with just myself and the idea of potentially being alone forever. this is still a work in progress. the next step was to place all my faith in fortune and see what happens, lol
>>37748067
is it?
then i guess i should check it out
>>37748070
i'm working on being a better self but it's hard when everyone around you gets a girl he does stuff with and youre stuck at home alone thinking about all the shit yuo did with your exes
>>37746384
daily reminder that if you live in the US and go to a college you have NO EXCUSE to be a virgin.
It's fish in a barrel
reading americans complaining makes my blood boil
>>37748090
yeah the fuckboy meme ruined it
>>37748107
then maybe my dating life is not over yet
>>37748090
man, you gotta reign in that envy and covetous mindset. it will eat you alive dogg
>>37748148
it's already starting to consume me man
lifting's all that keeps me sane funny enough
>>37748050
oh jeez, and what exactly is attractive to women?
mostly people who are interested in them
>>37748152
put the breaks on it, dude. the best things I've done is reduce the number of external things that affect my internal mood. the more your contentment comes from your head and the less it comes from other people or objects, the better
>>37748050
being attractive to women is being charming, confident and funny.
women's attraction is far more subtle than male attraction. You need to look the part, but that isn't the most important factor. You need to have your shit together at least obstensibly but that isn't the most important part. None of those can work unless you are a real flirt/charmer, you need to make a girl flustered
>>37746589
>But you don't, you just have to be friendly and responsive. Just talk to her like she's an old friend and you have no interest in fucking, and you'll find the conversation comes easily.
The one time I did that bitch started losing interest in me.
Next time I saw her I stopped giving attention to her beside saying hello and kind of ignoring her and she was all over my dick.
I think that part only works with certain women, but definitely not all
>>37746187
This is the only correct answer.
1. If you are not autistic and can at least have a normal conversation with women, go to bars every weekend and within a couple weeks, you'll score.
2. If you are too autistic, start a little lower. Join some kind of group, like a sport or a hobby, debating club, anything really, where you can bond over some common activity. Really invest time and effort. Make some friends. Become comfortable with them. Take action. Then go to a bar with your new peers. Everything is easier when you're in a group. Then go do 1, see above.
>>37746087
up until certain point you can solo or skillfake, i was a weeab neet recluse up until 17, by age 20 i had matured and grown enough that im making it good
>>37748100
This.
Most American women are such sluts and will bend over backwards for European men because of their accents.
>>37748190
sadly i'm that sort of human being, who has fun in doing stuff with friends, yet they lack that feeling that only a girl that's close to me can give me, if that makes any sense
>>37748217
if you're a human you can be, if you work on it. all I can tell you is my own experience, which has been very positive for my mental state since I started looking inward, which I have complete control over, rather than seeking it on the outside, which I have no control over which makes my peace of mind subject to the will of others, basically
>>37748241
i guess so anon i guess so
>>37748306
go forth, and sin no more
>>37746035
Girls dont like nice guys
>>37748335
Youre completely right, AspieMate, Girls love guys who threaten to rape them >>37747558
>>37746108
why are u bitting the bait u fucking manlet ?
>>37748344
everyone knows that girls love a bad boy
>>37748215
This is why I wanna ultimately move either to the States or scandinavia, somewhere being italian could be somewhat of a leg up
>>37747303
thanks, I was hoping for my posts to be somewhat useful. looks like noone cared, thanks for the (You).
> asking for heterosexual dating advice on the most homo board
Why don't you ask something that makes sense here?
>>37746035
why are white americans so cultureless and autistic. truly most are inherently nu-male beta faggots masquerading as alpha
>>37748783
I read it and it's definitely insightful, thanks mate.
>>37746087
Had numerous girlfriends between age of 16 and 22, they always dumped me shortly after I revealed that I was a virgin. Finally lied to a girl and said I had had many sexual partners and lost my virginity at 22. Couldn't get it up for the longest time, barely was able to come, she was upset but I blamed it on work stress and she rolled with it. Ended up having a year long relationship with her, learned the basics of sex, and have been perfectly normal ever since. This guy's analogy is perfect.
>>37746124
>>To have a normal sex life you have to be a normie
It's almost like common sense.
>>37748917
>Had numerous girlfriends between age of 16 and 22, they always dumped me shortly after I revealed that I was a virgin.
You're just joking right?
>be me
>date qts all throughout high school
>lose virginity at the ripe age of 16
>literally no problems ever in the female acquisition department
>graduate high school
>can't afford uni
>go to community college
>suddenly dating pool dries up
>nobody to date at work
>gain employment at State Penitentiary
>work 80 hours a week most weeks
>2200-1400 five days a week
>don't even know how i'm going to find another qt at this point
fuck
>>37748422
> wanting to move to one of the biggest shitholes on earth
You realise literally less than 30% of the female population is fuckable, right?
>>37747570
It was confirmed fake. I'm more annoyed that objectively fake pasta gets served than I am at the story tbqhf.
>>37747784
Oneitis is a stupid concept. You're not in love with one girl at a time, you're in love with the idea of yourself as the type of guy who can only love one girl at a time. Oneitis is possibly the most pathetic form of narcissism imagineable.
>>37747963
Watch pro demos and DM more, you'll got gud
I started playing when GO first came out and I was pretty shit the first two years, it just takes patience
>>37746035
>acting like a douchebag
>nobody likes nice guys
You went so fucking wrong there m8. The only reason girls would ever like douchebags is because whether its all a facade or not, they seem more sure of themselves. Confidence is key; would you put faith in someones decisions if they cant put faith in themselves?
Confident people are more trustworthy, more decisive and blunt, thus much easier to deal with. Insecurity is unattractive.
That being said, everyone has insecurities. If you man up and admit to yourself these insecurities, you can then take the next step of eliminating them. Some of them may never go away, and that's okay. But admit to them.
Never fall for the alpha-beta meme either. It's all bullshit perpetuated by bitter manchildren with inferiority complexes. Just be a decent person, be honest and confident. Be enthusiastic about your hobbies and interests, even if they're pretty fucking gay ones. At least then you'll show you don't care what others think about you; you show that you know you're worth more than the opinions of others.
>>37746164
how tall are you
(this is very important)
>>37747484
>hating on anime
so this is what it has come down to
>>37746061
Absolutely false. Lost my cherry at 21, now 29 and got more pussy in those years that I could manage.
It's just a matter of self confidence, skills and attitude.
>>37746061
>>37746087
Just turned 26 and a virgin. My life is over.
