Can calisthenics and dumbbells alone help build muscle?
I never lift by the way, used to do bench press, deadlift and squats a few years ago but haven't done shit since.
>>37708272
It's better than nothing but it's far from efficient.
But yes if you exert yourself and use the element of progressive overload in some way(weight or reps increase) you will build muscle
>>37708272
definitely. What dumbbells do you have
>>37708283
Just typical ones, x2 10lb, x2 15lb, x2 20lb, x2 25 lb and x1 30lb
Also just to disclose, I'm looking to build muscle mass
>>37708272
exercise, nutrition and rest.
/thread
Ofc
>>37708277
Why does everyone say this? Seems like a meme that everyone keeps spouting without any anything to back it up
Would it be stupid to do calisthenics, even tho I have gym membership and tons of free time every day?
I have been lifting for some time but im still novice. I want to build muscle, get stronger but also be more athletic, explosive, balance etc...
Progressive overload would happen by evolving excerices and making them harder. For example for push ups all the way to 3x10 one hand clean push ups, feet together. After that I can make it even harder doinh it decline and lower rest time between sets, slow negative etc....
>>37708564
It's hard to hit all muscle groups effectively so you'll bw lacking and gets hard to move up in weight
>>37708717
yes use the membership why do you pay for it
DYELog
Don't do calisthenics if you just want muscle, just the fact that you are doing calisthenics is the best reason to do it anyway, like any other activity out there
>>37708731
I can cancel the membership and I think calisthenics maybe better for functional strenght, olympic dudes are ripped as fk and never touch weights and wrestlers etc. Use bodyweight excerices in their training instead of weights
Qell duh
I have only been doing
300 pushups
100 30 Dumbells
200 Situps
10Min running
20ish Hanging leg raises (Doordrame pullup bar so cant do too muxh at a time)
20ish Chinups
50 Hanging knee ups
Twice a day one at 5 AM and one at 7PM for like 5-6 days a week for like 3 Months now
Pretty good Gains I guess, definietly better than nothing.
>>37708825
Why? Are your goals in endurance? Wouldnt you prefer gaining muscle and strenght doin calisthenics? Then you have to do reps 5-15 sets 2-4.
>>37708815
>olympic dudes are ripped as fk and never touch weights and wrestlers etc. Use bodyweight excerices in their training instead of weights
What makes you think they don't lift?
>>37708835
that's why bodyweight sucks dick
learning next progressions requires way more ability and time than just putting on more weight
compare putting few kilos more on barbell to going from pullups to muscleups/pullovers/tucked front lever or whatever
>>37708854
Umm you really think they do? XD
There may be some that do bit gym but google it up and they do just alot static things and bodyweight training I mean gymnastic dudes, and they have huge arms and shoulders.
You think lifting weights helps playing with rings or doing backflips etc.? No.
>>37708272
It works until you hit the limit on progressive overload. If you're willing to be a bit creative then you can push that moment forward. Using heavy bags and stuff you have in your garage prolongs it even further- but that is outside the scope of your question.
It will be less efficient than barbell training and as time goes on that kind of training becomes less and less efficient compared to traditional barbell exercises. My guess is that the average sedentary guy could build muscle mass with advanced calisthenics using dumbbells for about a year before it just becomes silly and they should cough up the money for a gym membership.
>>37708887
Specificity. Of course the best way to be good at gymnastics is to do gymnastics, but to be at an elite level you need to do more than that - using a strength training regiment tailored to the specific needs of the sport is a matter of course.
>>37708272
The calisthenics dudes at my gym are by far the most jacked in terms of upper body. All shredded and all pretty big.
They're not just push-up and pull up guys but proper shit so if you can progress with it and do genuine gymnastic shit then I'd say yeah
>>37708825
may i ask what kind of work you do?
>>37708825
details on the gains please
>>37708825
>>20ish Hanging leg raises (Doordrame pullup bar so cant do too muxh at a time)
how do you do hanging leg raises are you less then 5ft?
So do we have any bodyweight thread here?
>>37709278
Pull yourself all the way up with the two middle bars that extend outward
I'm 6foot and I can do it
>>37708272
if you know how you def can
but since you're probally new you dont know how so you're better off in the gym
>>37709302
there is no way you can do it with a door gym without bending your knees.
"hanging" not held up like the position of a pulled pullup
>>37708564
Calisthenics are great for fitness and athleticism, as the work some many small stabilizer muscles and burn calories to lessen body fat. They will not make look like a freakish rich piana looking mutant and are a less effective workout choice for a heavy but improperly used steroid cycle. This is why /fit hates them and why overweight pudpiles regurgitate so much misinformation about them.
>>37709319
>"hanging" not held up like the position of a pulled pullup
My bad that's what I meant
But honestly what is the difference?
You just workout your arms more when you pull yourself up.
>>37709392
While a lot of what you said is true, I hate calisthenics because they're boring as hell and the results take forever. I'm not the typical fatass who barely lifts, i.e like 90% of /fit/.
>>37708985
>Tfw still in school
I code and do uhh.. computer stuff and take two online classes.
Question for the gents in this thread that seem to know some stuff, what would be better in terms of programming in regards to calisthenics; doing a M/W/F upper body/lower-body/core type deal where each day I go pretty hard with the number and intensity of exercises, or a full body workout each day and doing a variation of pushing, pulling, core, and leg work. Sorry if that doesn't make sense by how I'm asking it.
>>37708277
How will I know when to add weight to my push up?
>>37708825
post pic, that looks like a meme workout
>>37708741
has someone followed this routine? Post results
>>37711051
Only about halfway through but here's the updated version. As for results, it works about as well as you'd expect a bodyweight workout would.
>>37710971
Same anon, let me clarify. I'm trying to design something around Dominik Sky's calisthenic tutorials on YouTube, and he broke his tutorials up into upper body pulling, pressing, and core.
>>37708272
It'll provide you with lean muscle and functionally it's about as good as you get if you like a good combo of speed and endurance. But if you want size, then go for weights.
Pic related was me at the peak of my calisthenics training. For my job it was perfect, and doing 235 push-ups is a cool thing to say, but I wasn't a bodybuilder or the other stuff /fit/ usually wants.
>>37712899
GET OUT OF HERE SCRUB YOUR NOT RIPPED
THIS IS /fit
YOU GET HUGE OR YOU GO HOME
GENERAL FITNESS? OVERALL HEALTH? YOU GET HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGE OR YOU GO JOIN THE OTHER FATTIES IN STARBUCKS
[spoiler]no homo[spoiler/]
>>37710971
This one is pretty good in terms of recovery and intensity.
http://ashotofadrenaline.net/calisthenics-workout-plan/#workout
The only change I made was that for arms day I do a basic arm weight workout because mine are naturally DYEL.
>>37710971
When I was working on my Planche/Front Lever/handstands I was practicing them every day, and doing weighted Pullups/one arm Pushups every day, I would add weight every time I hit 8 reps. I would recommend adding some overhead pressing if possible, it helps so much with handstands.
>>37712899
natty shoulders are so depressing to look at
>>37713195
Told you it's not /fit/ approved.
>>37712899
That looks good, otter mode right? You're already ripped compared to 99% of men, how is your strenght?
>>37710984
do different types, grips, etc. Archer push ups, close grip, far grip, one hand, basketball, etc.
>>37712899
Did you use protein powder? If no would you get bigger if you did?
>>37713500
It was definitely above my weight, which was 165 there. Not powerlifting or anything, but I was definitely able to hold my own.
>>37713592
Protein powder was a major part of my diet.
>>37708272
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAGGK8Xyqxc
but he said he made good gains from calisthenics in the beginning
>>37708272
This is the sort of person judging your progress pics.
>Dude i swear i used to go to the gym a few years ago i did the thing on the bench and the one where you pick the bar up off the floor. I was bigger and leaner than you too.
>>37713674
You're going to the gym now? Can you post your current pic?
>>37713840
I had appendicitis surgery two months back, not to mention irregular eating and workout habits due to my job. I honestly look awful now.
I'm attempting to mix calisthenics with weight lifting in hopes of getting back to what I used to be.
>>37711106
wait, i thought that was the old version?
>>37713861
You already made it once, 2nd time is going to be piss easy for you. I'd love to have body like yous in that pic >>37712899
i think it looks great. Also how long did it take you to achieve it? How frequent were your sesions and what routine did you do if i may ask?
>>37713886
Nah this is the newest version. You can find the pdf and poster of it on his website.
>>37713952
damn it. since the other one says "corrected" i thought it was a newer version. thanks
>>37712899
Cool. What was your routine/diet?
>>37708887
>You think lifting weights helps playing with rings or doing backflips etc.? No.
you clearly have no clue what you are talking about. please stop spreading misinformation.
Legs are going to be hard to train. Aside from that it's great.
