What natural supplements is he talking about, boyos??
testosterone is natural
>>37701881
Testosterone is totally naturally occurring. Thus, natty.
There, I explained the BS away.
HE TAKES STEROIDS?????? i just thought he was on protein shakes.
He's supplementing his test
>>37701881
GOMAD
hgh is natural
>>37701881
testosterone is natural
fucking hell you can argue that everything is natural
>>37701881
Fake
>>37701881
Dat dere celltech
The funny thing is he literally believes he isn't roiding. His trainer convinced him he was just taking natural testosterone which is totally different L O L
>>37701881
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Trq1y90JN7Y
thoughs?
>>37701881
hes a 5'8" manlet so its pretty obvious hes all natural
DESU that physique is not natural hes either roiding previously or not roiding now
>>37702071
>celltech
>natural
ITT:
>you can't get to a lean 175 lbs natural
oh boy it's sure is summer
>>37701881
>NO WAY a long time lifter and manlet could get big!
This thread is fucking gay
Go to the gym you faggots
>>37701955
Yes, this is called the naturalistic fallacy. The line between what is "natural" and what is "artificial" is actually so blurry that to insist that one (in this case, natural) is better automatically is fallacious.
>>37702405
Of course he won't call him out on his bs, he makes money off of gullible people.
>>37702473
He's a turbomanlet and looks full as fuck. Real natties look depleted, you're the summerfag, either that or you've never cut.
>people really think this is natty
You must be new to lifting. Or you're one of those delusional faggots who think they are close to this. Like that dude who thinks he's zyzz.
>>37701955
Except dnp. Nature has nothing on that
>>37702667
>spend 5+ years lifting
>cant reach that natty
hello dyel
>>37702667
to be fair i haven't been 5'6 since 5th grade, so who knows if i could ever look like that.
>>37702678
Were talking muscle building supplements
>>37702692
>roid hardness
>natty
>>37702706
Yeah but if you want that level of definition then body fat needs to be date I say unnaturally low
>>37701881
zinc of course
>>37702722
>lifting for 5+ years
>implausibe that he'd have good definition=
>>37702768
>he doesn't understand the difference between definition and muscle fullness
>>37701881
>5' 8''
>kek
>>37702780
>he uses meme buzz words because he is a newfag
>he is such a newfag he cant even bother to name his pictures since his folder is so small
>>37701881
Public figures aren't allowed to admit roid abuse because they are role models for impressionable youth.
If every jacked dude came out and said yeah lol I just roided for a few months to get this, fuckin everyone would be doing it.
While I believe people should have the choice to roid, that's the reasoning behind them always denying it. It would ruin their reputation and status as role model figure.
>>37702819
la vache, sagrebleugh
>>37702819
>FRENCH fag is skeptical an AMERICAN WHITE MALE is NATURALLY capable of being MUSCULAR and thus resorts to calling him out on STERIODS since he lacks a MELANIN that he is so used to seeing his WIFE crave SEX with
>>37702807
The dude who played Rami's spiderman admitted he roided to put on muscle fast and people fucking shat on him.
Never admit it if you're famous.
>>37702848
Here are the subfoldders.
>>37702626
Natural in terms of testosterone is whether it is synthetic or naturally occuring, pretty easy distinction
>>37702742
Yes its natural cuz its mde with natural compounds m8 everything is natural
>>37702858
>only french speak french
Try again.
>>37702861
>>37702892
You forgot to add "weighted dips".
>>37702887
>implying being a frankaboo is better
>>37702626
No its not fucking blurry you are just too dumb
Natural fallacy is when shitters think that something is better cuz its natural
>>37702903
I meant that one of my countries official language is french but keep throwing memes at me.
>>37702861
>no Fronk folder
fuckin frogs man
>>37702887
>Implying being a Cuckadian, Belgian, or nigger African is better
You should've just said you were French
>>37701881
The only difference between those two pictures is lighting.
>>37702914
You are either African, Canadian, or Belgian
either way youre still of french descent and full of cuck genes that make you skeptical of a natty lifter looking good after lifting for 5+ years
>>37702927
hivemind
>>37702873
Nothing like it exists in nature. It's man made bruv.
it's not like he's tripled in size
his body is completely achievable without steroids
>>37702861
Holy fuck im impressed
But where is your high test folder?
Also no frog/memes folder
why do celebrities like him and the rock feel the need to deny steroid use? can't they just ignore the questions?
>>37702861
tfw no more supermong
are you trying to make me sed agin?
>>37702861
>The dude who played Rami's spiderman admitted he roided to put on muscle fast and people fucking shat on him.
source? i just googled it, and i see one link where tobey maquire admits to using roids. don't see any backlash
but i agree, no sane person will admit to roids, given that it's an illegal substance, banned in sports and have such negative responses in the media
>>37702986
Too full at such a low body fat %
>>37703017
Bad role models
>>37702942
>>37702927
>forgetting swissland and luxembourg
Is this american education?
>>37703004
>Also no frog/memes folder
That's a folder of it's own, it's not related to fit at all.
cum
>>37702678
That's how you become supernatural
Haunting /fit/ for eternity
>>37703066
>Switzerland and fucking Luxembourg are relevant
low test natty here. I would be very thankful to look like left pic
>>37703017
>do you roid?
:)
>Silence
:)
>●●●
( ･ิω･ิ)( ･ิω･ิ)
>>37701881
Natural test levels are between 280 and 1100 nanograms per decilter. Just boost your test to the upper level like scooby does. Keep your natty card that way
>>37703047
What about unrealistic standards? And you forgot about "can't they just ignore the questions?"
>>37703079
Hope you lift
>>37703066
>implying either of those countries wouldn't be speaking German primarily
Mexican Education everybody.
>>37703150
>boost your test
Enjoy baldness
>>37703146
I don't mean in interviews though, doubt efron have been asked that, the Rrock might have though. But can't he just ignore the magazines or whatever instead of stating that he is natty?
>>37701881
Test is natty
>>37703133
Living in the wealthiest nations of the world beats "relevency".
>>37703150
that would only make a difference if you are in the lower end, someone with test levels of 500ng wouldn't really noticing anything if they didn't went above supraphysiological
>>37703177
>high end of natty test levels
>balding
sure man
>>37703079
>>37702914
>>37702887
>>37702819
>>37702780
>>37702722
>>37702667
Since you're SO knowledable on lifting and you call OTHERS delusional for thinking its natty why dont you post body?
what's that you wont do it because youre DYEL?
protip: that achievable natty as he's been lifting for a long time and he has high test which you can tell by his Jaw
>>37703169
>Luxembourg
German isn't even one of our language.
>>37703177
Well take some AI derived from cruciferous vegetables such as i3c or DIM. Then you wont be bald like scoobs. Easier to wash semen off your head when ur bald though breh
>>37703200
Never said I'm a fountain of knowledge.
3 years in, started as anorexic with 17 BMI.
>>37703179
Nah gotta make people think that he is natty af and that it all comes down to hard work and some supplements bruh
He's got like 4% more muscle on the right pic than the left. He mostly just lost some fat to look better. The fuck does he need any supplements for aside from extra protein.
>>37703199
Really?
Doubling you fucking test wouldnt be noticeable?
>>37703209
MEXICAN EDUCATION EVERYONE
>>37703226
youre DYEL for how long youve been lifting, and youre flexing + curling your abs
Youre retarded to think you can say Effron isnt natty by your progress
>>37703226
Lifts?
Im not him and im dyel af but I think you could have done more in 3 years even if you started as an anorexic
Nice abs tho
>>37703114
Kek
Natty lifter here. Please tell me I'm "secretly roiding" so i can laugh at your pathetic life. You guys suck at lifting. The sooner you accept that the sooner you'll fix your routine and get better.
>injecting yourself because you have fail genes
If you don't compete kys.
>>37703274
Fucking embarrassing, do yourself a favor and delete your post
>>37703251
Progress slows down the more you lift though.
>>37703267
It took me 1 year to learn how to eat. And I really mean learn.
>>37703274
>he thinks we are going to take that bait
>>37703274
Is this b8? Do you think you are anywhere near close to the guy in OP's pic?
>>37703274
Learn to rotate pic pls skelly
>>37703295
Now all you have to do is learn how to lift
>>37703295
>Progress slows down the more you lift though.
DYEL
p.s. its obvious you dont lift 2/3/4/5 so why are you bashing big dudes? you realize he's been lifting for 5+ years and IS PAID TO LOOK GOOD! the fucking dude has all day to train and has the money to get GOOD pts and diets
Please stop posting when its obvious you dont know shit
p.s. im not saying youre body is shit im saying your opinion is
>>37703274
>dyel with shit body and hyperinflated ego asking for attention from a bengalese honey collecting forum
fuck off man, no one believes you even lift, let alone you roid
>>37703274
>implying you even look good
>implying I dont realize this is b8
>>37703295
Oh alright
Anyways you look great,you pRobably make girls wet af
Also I will ask again,lifts?
>>37701881
semen
>>37703274
2nd pic
>>37703313
>>37703315
I hope you are right and I'm wrong, I'll just keep lifting regardless because I like it. I'll find out myself.
>p.s. im not saying youre body is shit im saying your opinion is
That's a kind thing to say.
>>37703326
Bench 2pl8s for reps. Never tried 1RM.
Diddy only 3 pl8s because I started doing that a year ago.
>>37702887
A
FUCKING
LEAF
>>37702863
>Natural means naturally occurring
Ask me how I know you have double digit IQ
>>37703409
Thank god no.
People think I roid because i'm around 20% bf but I still have abs.
If you really think zac efron is roiding, you need to reevaluate what a user looks like.
Stop lying to yourself and realize you can achieve something that may look impossible.
>>37703452
Do you live in Edinburgh?
>>37702626
>fallacious.
There are substances (and elements) that you can't find in nature, therefore they're artificial. So fuck you and your fedora.
>>37703530
What counts as nature? Is a bird using a twig to spear maggots in a tree natural? How are the tools used by humans different?
Seriously how are you too dense to get this?
>>37703498
Nope, USA, I'd like to visit one day though.
I feel like I would fit right in being a ginger and all.
>>37701881
Is that really not achievable natty given he trained for a year, already had a base, and is like 5'7
>>37702071
Kek
>>37702453
>>37702667
here we go, the everyone is juicing, "16 year olds who watched one to many jason blahaha videos", experts are here
he looks almost exactly the same in both of those pictures, in case you mongolids didn't notice, the lighting and pose are different. Second, his shoulders are still flat, big indicator. third hes not even lean enough to the point a natty would look flat, hes like 8% on the right there.
Creatine definetely, like 7 grams a day.
>>37701881
I'm not gonna say he's on roids because honestly I don't know what's possible with an unlimited budget, a personal dietician/nutritionist, make up artist, and chef that cooks you the equivalent of Thanksgiving dinner every day, but I can say that being his height, weight, and bodyfat is extremely hard naturally.
I'm his same height and the lowest I've ever cut down is like 11-12% at 160lb bw. I didn't look anywhere near as shredded or as big. Currently I'm 166-168 at 16% and I still barely look bigger than this dude. I'm probably stronger but yeah this guy has a nutty physique for someone claiming natty
>>37703004
>you will never help her making breakfast
>>37701881
Don't worry guys he's like Mike O'Hearn where his body naturally produces trenbolone from his nutsacks by doing fasted cardio in the morning and tracking macros
All the drugs I take are natural; marijuana, tobacco, mushrooms, cocaine, opium, steroids, you name it.
>>37703695
Heh
![EugeneSandow-dual-300x216[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/SOpRQgX.jpg "EugeneSandow-dual-300x216[1].jpg")
>>37702722
yeah sandow was blasting da trenbolone too
go watch some more jason blaha videos retard
This meme is getting to the point where in a few years time anyone who has low bodyfat and some muscular development is labelled a steroid user, and fat retards who spend most of their day inhaling microwave food and posting on imageboards are said to be peak natty physiques
>>37703692
Lmao. Don't forget kinofaggy.
>>37703733
Zac has like 10kg of muscle on sandow, not a great example.
>>37703226
lift chest nigger
![maxresdefault[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/AOuI3mq.jpg "maxresdefault[1].jpg")
>>37703739
no, he really doesn't.
but FWIW zac probably did use steroids anyway. I'm just making the case that the dumb shit people use to judge "roid physiques" isnt anywhere near as accurate as they think.
muscle hardness is just low bodyfat, low subcutaneous water. Actors also get a pump before the cameras roll, thats why they look decidely more average in papparazzi shots on the beach, but under the magic of professional lighting, makeup spritz bottles of hero sweat, some dumbells to get a quick pump, and an experienced DP makes them look amazing.
Edward norton looked great on camera in american history X. Look at some of the b footage or non-professional photography from the same set and he is tiny. Hes about maybe 180lbs 12% bf, which at his height, isn't much.
pic related vs wait for it
![tumblr_matnazEaxJ1qltbfdo2_400[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/QxtNvBu.jpg "tumblr_matnazEaxJ1qltbfdo2_400[1].jpg")
>>37703804
pic related
oh boy what happened? From heroic to average young male gym goer
the camera giveth but it also taketh. Its all illusion.
>>37703804
I suppose getting a pump makes a difference. Maybe I was wrong then.
i believe him desu
>>37703814
>Heroic
he's a fucking neo nazi
>>37702667
>>37702667
the only thing unnatural is the contour on his fucking abs.
>>37702692
Post a pic of your physique, faggot. Bet you look dyel as fuck
>>37703384
Lies lol your skelly frail body dies not bench 2 plates
this is natural.
Zac has
>all the trainers and health physicians money can buy
>All the supps money can buy
>lifting age
>body makeup
>favorable height
>drive
please do not think about commenting on natty or not if you have less than 3 years lifting experience. Youre creating misconceptions for new lifters
>>37705913
heroic posing moron, I'm not commenting on the character in the movie.
Hes shot to make him look powerful, bold and determined. A larger than life figure for the young danny onlooking.
>>37701881
His physique is absolutly obtainable natty. Look at the difference between picks; he looks about 4-5 years older and has clearly been active most of his adolescent and adult life. If you think he isn't natty you are a poor mislead cave dweller.
>>37703739
lolwut??? u mean Sandow has 15kg on Efron...
>>37703695
rofl probably true in Zac's case
and he still looks better than apparently 95% of fit
dat dere jizztech
>>37703251
>you're DYEL
lol gtfo fatlifter and/or newfag
Using photoshop is natural.
>>37702942
this is why white people will become a minority
>>37702806
>he cant even bother to name his pictures since his folder is so small
isn't that like the opposite?
>>37703814
/thread
P-P-PLEASE BE NATTY ZAC I WANT TO KNOW THAT I CAN LOOK LIKE THAT ONE DAY ;_______________;
>>37706158
This
He only gained 10 pounds of muscle which is totally doable in a year
>>37702861
>goal bodies
have you ever accidentally glanced at this folder while masturbating?
>>37705913
>implying they are mutually exclusive
Super dry. Red looking. Inflated delts and pecs at low bodyfat.
He has the stereotypical roider look.
>>37703452
Looking at you, I wouldn't even consider you roid. Looking at efron, I'm completely sure he roids. Who ever thinks you roid must know absolutely nothing about lifting.
>>37703530
then where did they come from? substances might have to be processed, but they are derived from something naturally occurring, meaning they exist in nature in a certain form. and the chemical reactions involved with producing certain substances happen because the natural structure and properties of certain things cause them to react together naturally.
>>37703733
Efron is a lot more serrated than Sandow while barely being shorter than him. Sandow is natural while Efron is not clearly. He's a movie star who's main thing is sex appeal, if no one is drug testing him then why not just roid and say he isn't?
>>37703274
You realize if yah had any fat you'd look like any other person? Lmao skelly pls go
>>37706158
He's on film sets for 12+ hours a day
Then he's travelling for months on end doing promo.
I'm not saying someone can't achieve his body naturally but if you think a Hollywood film star isn't cutting corners to find the easiest way to keep his cheques coming in then you're an idiot.
They all do it.
>>37703226
3 years in? What did you lift in 3 years? You're supposed to actually go to the gym
Not just post on /fit and call it 3 years of experience.
It's sad that all the memes of "this is who judges you on fit" are actually true.
>>37706870
I wouldnt say they all do it. and based on what i think zacs personality is and the pics, id say hes natty. hugh jackman also could roid if he wanted but he obviously chooses not to.
>>37702692
A huge amount of guys on here have been lifting for more than 5 years.
None of the them look like that, unless enhanced
>>37703066
>butthurt that the most relevant and influential country in the world doesn't pay much attention to your tiny irrelevant stain on map
>>37706967
and we all have different lives. i guarantee if you committed your life to lifting for 5 years youd look a hell of a lot better. theres so many variables. yeah because hes an actor he could have taken anything to help him out but by no means is it necessary to look like that
>>37703804
>I actually used to think this was big
>>37706928
Hugh Jackman is on roids. He's 47 years old and acting as Wolverine in a new movie every year.
He has to stay jacked year round for filming and then he has to look the same when he does all the promotion.
Marvel aren't risking one of their biggest properties for a guy to turn up on set with a belly.
Efron is type cast as "college hunk" and the same thing applies.
There is too much money involved to just hope that these guys train perfectly everyday and keep a perfect diet.
>>37707013
Post your physique
>>37707046
ok im going to have to come off a bit dickish and say youre so wrong. Jackman isnt just an actor getting big when it comes to training. the guy actually loves training. hes just sporting a body thats fit for someone his age. yes a lot of money goes into his training and supplementation but by no means does he need to roid. and if you follow him at all you could see that hes the type of guy that wouldn't want to "harm" his body like that.
>>37701881
Steroids are natural.
>>37707081
Steroids giving to you by top doctors won't harm your body
>>37707046
Are you implying that Hollywood forces its actors to take steroids? Either way, the topic of discussion is whether that physique is obtainable without roids and I think everyone here is dillusional for thinking it's not. I have bigger, equally aesthetic friends I've known for 5+ years who have never touched even creatine.
>>37707150
i dont actually mean harm its just how its seen. jackman has a sense of integrity
>>37707182
i just wish a lot of people on this board would give lifting an honest crack for two good years and realise what you can achieve
>>37702667
literal perfect body....my fucking dick
>>37707213
And you have a sense of being a moron
Just because he's on roids doesn't mean he doesn't work hard or doesn't like working out anymore.
He can easily do both.
You're just under the impression that roids are a magic pill that anyone can take and become super huge without the right work ethic.
Dwayne johnson also loves working out, been doing that since he was a little boy. Check his instagram so knowing all that do you expect me to think he's natty too?
2 years progress
Is this achievable natty? Probably.
Is he on juice? Probably.
Why the fuck wouldn't he? He could spend countless hours in the gym for 2 years, have a perfect diet, no room for late night drug binges in bed with 5 hot sluts, just bodybuilding.
Or he could take a little test-orinoo and get fucking ripped, fuck all the sluts, and claim natty. If I was him I wouldn't have the time for natty bodybuilding. I'd jump on the train to. Can't blame him for not being able to admit sterons with all the hate either. Im jelly as fuck but we have to be realistic.
>>37707247
Heres another from that shitty movie that came out in 2014. He would have had a pump and summa dat movie magic for this one.
>>37707247
To be honest, he only looks lean as fuck here but that can be due to make up and tactical bw shaving.
Not saying he doesn't look good but I've seen other pictures of him, also from set, where he looks notiicably smaller
>>37707234
settle friend.
do i think dwayne roids? yes.
by no means do i think its a magic pill but hugh jackman is old school dude. you know the type of guy that says roids will make your dick smaller or that its just not natural.
>>37707222
Me too man. I used to be 300lbs and I'm down to 188 this morning at 6'2". I achieved this in 6 months total of actually trying (split over 3 years of dieting and maintaining). I have seen my body transform in ways I've never thought possible. It infuriates me when people say a body like that can be achieved. If you want examples of steroids use, look at pro bodybuilders.
>>37707234
If you take steroids and don't work out, you will gain more muscle than someone who is natty and lifts constantly.
>taking the b8
>>37707284
I feel like I'm getting trolled
>>37707299
This is not true.
>>37707284
Hugh Jackman, nearly 50 years old.
Has a tan year round.
Has perfectly set pearl white teeth.
Has jet black hair.
Fuckin hell dude. Just think about how obsessed with image Hollywood is.
P.s. of course he's cultivating an image of being a health nut. No one is going to admit to steroids because it's career suicide.
>>37707299
>>37707300
http://www.aworkoutroutine.com/steroids-vs-natural/
Here is a source for my claim. Study is in the link.
Steroids are absolutely a "magic pill" that you can take and gain a ridiculous amount of muscle.
>>37701881
>what is bulking
>what is lifting
>what are natural supps that greatly raise your testosterone (zinc, taurine, magnesium, caffeine)
The dude is genuinely dedicated to lifting, unlike actors who have to use roids because they havent been lifting before.
>>37707306
See my above link. Do some research before you pretend to know what you are talking about bro.
>>37707285
ever heard of diminishing returns?
>>37707312
Let me tell you what's wrong with this study.
First of all, 10 weeks of training and 4 pounds of muscle for the steroid free users causes me to believe these are all untrained individuals.
Normally, you don't hop on steroids when you start lifting. So right there the study is faulty.
If they aren't untrained this study is faulty as well because the part of the results are beyond control.
the guys that lifted without roids got their noob gains, the guys that lifted with roids go their noob gains on roids. So giving that most start their first cycle about 2/3 years into their journey the difference will be a lot smaller than that unless they make it their life.
Now, I'm not saying that steroids do nothing, they help but if you actually believe that you can just roids and sit in your couch you'll keep gaining muscle or you can roid and lift half seriously and keep gaining muscle you're an idiot.
To pass through the true BB threshold you need to have made lifting your entire reason of existence.
>>37707284
this is me, i stopped posting after this for reference.
Come on guys this was 1 week ago. my dads a 53 yo chippy and would need less than a year to fill out the show muscles and look better than hugh.
>>37707317
>>what are natural supps that greatly raise your testosterone (zinc, taurine, magnesium, caffeine)
it's time to stop posting
>>37707407
dont know how to post pic so here is link
https://www.instagram.com/p/BGmD56nihMF/?taken-by=thehughjackman
>>37707353
They all had a history of weightlifting. Results were measured after a 16 week recovery period. Meaning a lot of the guys probably kept lifting during those 16 weeks. Also meaning the results were measured 4 months after the steroid users got off the juice. If you are going to claim 4 lbs of muscle in 6 months is "nooby gains" then you are retarded. This just demonstrates that they were probably seasoned lifters.
>doctors and scientists don't know how to conduct a study.
>muh bb.com knowledge
None of the dribble you just gave me refutes the point I was making. Doing steroids and nothing else vs being natty and weighlifting, steroids blow the latter out of the water. Steroids are a "magic pill," and you have no idea what you are talking about.
Here's the link to the study that you didn't actually read.
http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJM199607043350101#t=articleResults
>>37707353
>if you actually believe that you can just roids and sit in your couch you'll keep gaining muscle or you can roid and lift half seriously and keep gaining muscle you're an idiot.
Lmao. Yes. Yes you can do steroids, sit on your couch, and you will gain more muscle then the guy killing it in the gym who is natty.
>can't read.
>>37702405
Seems awful defensive over Zac. Why is he so invested in what these people think about a user?
HMMMMMMMMMMMMM
>>37703530
We're the natural process that generates some substances. If we are natural then so is anything we can create.
>>37703695
Testosterone is naturally occurring if you're into blended badger ball smoothies
>>37707150
If they didn't involve risk they wouldn't be illegal.
>>37707821
Pretty sure its synthesized from sweet potatoes or yams.
>>37701881
Cell tech
>>37707875
They're illegal because of "muh cheating" not because of the sides, watch bigger, faster stronger.
Steroids don't inherently enhance your looks beyond a natural capacity. Is it really worth guessing? His statement about only taking natty substances is either absolutely dense or intentionally deceiving. Who knows. Why not reply and ask him to clarify... and give us a /fit/ pose for closer inspection.
With unlimited time, money and resources, perfect eating of the highest quality, dedicating almost all of your time to lifting.. who's to say that you wouldn't look like him with good genetics? He's probably always on a pump and/or taking vasodilators to enhance the look.
IMO with the amount he trains and the type of 900 sit-ups a day pleb he is, his abs and ad-belt would look retarded if he was on something.
>>37707353
You lose by default, since you have nothing to back your claims unlike the other anon. You simply went "You're wrong because of these sentiments I pulled out of my ass"
>>37707587
As much as I like Jeff C, I am suspicious of him being on something himself. He's like an educated Scoob.
Seems to be fairly weak yet literally all of his muscles pop like fuck year-round.
>>37707998
>being delusional
>>37708016
And who could blame him? If your job highly benefits from you being shredded all year around why wouldn't you roid?
>>37708038
I'm not hating on him. I absolutely understand why he would do it from an educational standpoint. Why spend months and years to test theories when you could take days and weeks..
Just pointed it out for one of the reasons he may be defending Zac. Jeff may only be cycling test up to the natural human limit so that he knows what peak human potential looks like.. for science, literally
>>37708070
Oh my post may have sounded wrong but I simply wanted to add to what you said, I wasn't calling you a hater.
>>37708070
natty potential*
Oh fuck did I just crack what "half-natty" means?
>>37701881
That pink skin is caused by an elevated rbc count. He on test for sure and dry enough to be on tren and masteron.
>>37701881
He's guzzling mason jars full of bull semen three times a day. It's literally natural. Thank you to the haters.
>>37701881
"100% natural" is a scientifically meaningless term.
>>37702667
to be fair he's got god tier genetics and has been lifting for nearly a decade. it's not impossible for him to be natty, just unlikely.
>>37703226
You're only more /fit/ in terms of abs definition. I'm larger than you and I'm little more than half a year into lifting and started with a BMI of 19. Also with 6"8' I'm probably a lot taller.
Sit down.
>>37708823
Yeah that nigga on a GOBSAD for sure
>>37708973
>>37708971
>no picture
>>37703739
Literal fucking retard
They are the same if not sandow has atleast a bit more muscle mass
Get back to doing SS and drinking mill fatty
>>37703219
can you elaborate more?
>>37708971
>Sit down.
>>37701881
natty needle of test to the bum
>>37702667
And thus, he is Zac Thundercock
>>37702819
Now that's a lot of fichiers
>>37702861
>Stupid shit
Only subfolder you need t.b.h.
>>37703219
Have you taken both? Which is more effective and how long can you use it?
>>37709336
My entire 4chan Folder is named shit
and I have old folder named old shit.
>>37701881
semen is natural
>>37703733
Sandow was blasting test (The year he appeared, the US had their first baseball doping scandal) and used coke to cut.
>>37707353
>Normally, you don't hop on steroids when you start lifting.
Outside of the autistic internet lifting scene, you do. Young teenagers start roiding as soon as they go to the gym nowadays.
>>37708873
No, it is impossible.
/fit/ autists are so fucking retarded, it's uncanny. It's like you guys haven't lifted for longer than 2 weeks.
>>37707991
>who's to say that you wouldn't look like him with good genetics?
Anyone who knows about lifting.
There is not a single human being in the history of the world that reached such a body without roids. That's fact.
>>37703692
>>37703274
So butthurt. I was 200 lbs in high school trust me i wasn't small. You guys have really bad dysmorphia. Consider not staring at bodybuilder men all day or yourself in the mirror
>>37701893
first post best post
>>37709416
I bet you're one of these manlets with shit genetics who thinks that anything you'll never attain is due to someone cheating
stay mad
>>37710040
And you need to lie to yourself to believe that someone is natty just to have a glimmer of hope that you could look like that one day even though you never will (even if he was natty)
>>37705983
>DO NOT WANT
>>37702405
why is he so ugly?
>>37707317
>greatly raise your testosteron
>>37707317
>(zinc, taurine, magnesium, caffeine)
>>37707317
>greatly raise
>>37702902
jesus christ the colour in your image is just off and it's really irritating
>>37701881
Stiroids
>>37702925
this
>>37703548
>What counts as nature?
Jacobellis v. Ohio
>>37705913
>nazis arent heroic
I guess nu males who dont take shit in their own hands are better right, the ones always talking about the lack of perspective in young black thugs who DINDU NUFFIN
>he even grew chest hair
if it's not test is the the world's longest puberty
>>37708971
>>37709087
>still no picture
>>37702510
This.
It's easy to do in a year. He's still under 180lbs up from 170lbs. That's perfectly natty
It's funny you retards don't realize that even if his physique is possible natty, he didn't achieve it natty.
Test/HGH is standard anti aging procedure in Hollywood, and you think he's going to train and devote 100% of his time to lifting (which he doesnt have the time for) because he wants to stay natural? top fucking kek.
You might be able to look like that if you live the natty lifestyle 24/7 for multiple years, but an occupied moviestar isn't going to waste time with that when he can just take the celltech road with the best gear and doctors available.
>>37702667
ITT: Idiots don't realize he has makeup on his abs, arms and chest
>thinking this is unnatural
kek dyels in this thread
>>37707265
literally looks the same just leaner
kek idiots
>this isn't achievable natty
TIP TOP KEK
>>37703452
you call that abs? your fat is just clumped
>>37707247
>>37707265
He barely even gained weight. Looks like he simply worked on his traps harder and that's it. This is definitely achievable natty.
>>37711956
His traps, chest and shoulders are bigger, he is alot leaner and tanned. Tan makes him look more jacked, and hair style makes his head look smaller.
>>37703695
>opium
Opium is just cut black tar heroin sold at a premium to retarded hipsters by junkies.
>>37707875
counterpoint: weed
>>37709396
The closest anyone first came to synthesizing a notable amount of testosterone was in 1927. You know how much they got out of some 40 pounds of bovine testicles? 20mg.
You could have a single 2000mg injection of non-estered testosterone and it wouldn't do shit, the effects are too transient.
Sandow died in 1925 by the way.
It wasn't until 1935 that testosterone was able to be produced in quantities sufficient to do solid research with. At the earliest, you are looking at sometime mid 40s for steroid use to really begin.
The baseball doping "scandal" you are talking about is probably pud galvin admitting he used an elixir containing testicle derived compounds. To keep this short, i can tell you right now the effects of this elixir wouldve been largely placebo.
>>37703452
Doorbrah that you?
>>37711914
Do people really do that?
>>37703200
Different anon here.
You can have a shit body but still know what you're talking about. E.g. 90% of coaches look like shit. And you can have a great body but only have a superficial understanding of fitness. Your demand is stupid and a red herring .
>>37703530
They are created by humans which are part of nature. Therefore, like the ink made by a squid, steroids are natural.
>>37705913
>>37702819
Jesus fucking christ, how insecure are you!?
Someone on an anonymous baking forum says 'you don't have any memes', and you go out of your way to prove that you acturally do waste your life saving shitty images.
No one knows who you are, and you aren't actually proving anything. You know this, and you still feel the need to take a screenshot and post. Incredible.
>>37714078
>being this upset about someone having more meme cred than you
grow up. i'm sure some day you will have a meme folder just as big as mine, little boy.
