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A thread for the discussion of the sport of weightlifting and all things related. Keep the insults, bullying, and shitposting to a minimum.
Doping news
http://www.iwf.net/category/anti-doping-news/
http://www.allthingsgym.com/retests-olympic-doping-samples/
>How to Snatch w/ Klokov
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLGYKQZg-b1FYhl4P8OnCd_C2v2tjOC55X
>How to Clean & Jerk w/ Klokov
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLGYKQZg-b1FaJbNrQrwYXkP0BVDKdTpPy
>Blogs with useful info on training, programming, and technique
http://chinfl.blogspot.com.br/
http://yashathoughts.com/
>Programs
Novice program: http://imgur.com/pCKsrOM
4-weeks novice program: http://www.catalystathletics.com/article/131/Starter-Program-for-Catalyst-Athletics-Online-Workouts/
Takano Intermediate programs: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1M8AqZyApAyeSx-AoX3drVwpQEAJzVDvAJsE9PKoPwZw/edit?usp=sharing
>Commisar's notes on Bulgarian training
http://pastebin.com/u0jiY8sM
Too easy lad.
This is the face.
The tendons above my knees hurt when I squat down to my sticking point and the sound a bit crackly when they're cold.
Are my knees shot or will I live to fight another day?
>>37698239
4th 4 commies waifus
>>37698622
chino is CUTE!
>>37698821
>>37698434
what... why? why would that dyel lanklet do this?
this is so below even novice levels, is this guy handicapped or something?
>>37698865
i want to take chino out on a date!
>>37698866
Even this guy's disgusting lift looks better than your body.
>>37698911
I need to slim down at some point
>>37698945
>flexing spine on sumo
Goddamn your back must be weak
>>37698909
which president will make anime real?
>>37699163
presidents cant make anime real only anons can
How am I supposed to progress with something like the Beginner routines from the sticky?
Especially on strength movements like Squat, Push Press etc.
As for the main lifts and technique exercises, I guess I should go by feel to see what weight to use?
>pharmacology
what did he mean by this?
>>37699873
Ob will getting a gf make me a better lifter? My date is going v well. You got that qt azn so I trust u
Also, don't bully blueshoes it'll only encourage him.
>>37700236
>Ilya
>good
>>37700196
in what ways do you want a better life? depends on what u want from life
in case any of you guys would like to watch your little sister sport, the best classes are coming up
120 Men's open (equivalent to 105)
120+ Men's open (equivalent to 105+)
This is the actual stream:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EuIBVd4jefY
This is the channel we're all watching it on together: (FUCKING SPAM FILTER FUACLAKDSFLA)
cy
tu
dot
be
/ r / ipf
the standoff between Brett Gibbs (NZ) and John Haack (USA) in the 83's was a legit nail biter and crazy fun to watch. the SHW's are very often a lot of fun to watch if any of you are interested.
>>37700418
also the banter is top notch.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5S_rWQs1Ro
>>37700418
who is there to support ?
>>37700418
>>37700444
Men's 120's starting right now
>>37700447
dunno what you're even asking me desu
>>37700315
he said lifter not life you fucking nerd
>>37700265
We was a good boy. Just getting his lifts back on track.
Does anyone mind finding a good explanation on how to brace properly? I have an inkling that what I've been doing is inconsistent and I want to mentally run through a checklist for next time
also my mother just called me fat when I came back from a trip :(
>>37700773
im a fucking idiot.
in that case idk wouldnt really make a connection between gf and gains
anyone have any suggestions for bodybuilding work in the offdays? i do strength 4 days a week and want more hypertrophy work
>>37701288
why don't you do less strength and more hypertrophy? For intermediates they're basically synonymous anyway
>>37701300
I want it all
7 days a week 5000 calories a day
also other supps ;)
Do any of you guys do plyometrics or sprints?
i kind of want to start adding them in but don't know how
this happen to anyone else after squats?
>>37701553
Blueshoes please go
>>37701569
Wasnt me lad..
After 3 months with a coach I actually got to do some honest to goodness competition style clean & jerks.
Put 15kgs on my jerk, it's cost me about £10 per kg in physiotherapy to fix my dud shoulder. Yay!
Time to get on the gains train
>>37698239
Is there a point to these 2 person lifts besides just showing off/looking "cool"
>>37702178
>is there a point to these lifts besides just showing off/looking "cool"
FTFY
How do you lads feel about norsefat being able to retardc&j160kilograms whilst primarily doing powerlifting while most you would struggle with 2 plate
>>37702247
I wish i could live vicariously through others achievements.
>>37702247
I cringed when the bar hit his collarbones after making it bounce like that.
>>37702247
Isn't that bw for him though?
It's more scary when you realise how much he could do if he actually learned how to do the lifts.
>>37702247
that's not 160 that's less than 130 lmao lb plates
>>37702426
>I cringed when the bar hit his collarbones after making it bounce like that.
I DONT LIFT AND I DONT NO WAT I TALMBOUT
the post
>>37699778
most people start with 100kg, or 225lbs
>>37702247
That's 125 kg dude. He already told me those are pounds plates
>>37702426
have you ever watched weightlifting? He's ungainly but that's not out of the ordinary at all
Tried googling a 6 day program with double days but I can't find any.
Is there not any popular programs like SS or TM but for WL or should I do my own programming?
>>37703112
stuff that high frequency should probably be handled by a coach who can program for you
I've seen two types of programs that have double days, a) classics in morning and squats/bb in afternoon and b) technique work, stretching, and variations in morning and heavy stuff in the afternoon
>>37703154
I don't have much disposable income m8, wouldn't be able to fork out for a coach.
Cheers that should be enough for me to make some sort of program out of, only just starting out WL after one of the regional GB coaches encouraged me to take it up because of my back and front squat numbers.
>>37703236
>only just starting out WL
then you dont need double days
stop it
STOP IT
>>37702247
>>37698434
>>37698239
Why the fuck to people drop their weights after a clean and jerk? Seems fucking stupid to me.
>damaging the weights
>potential bounce is dangerous
>possibly damaging floor
>Shit form
It's just so much more impressive when someone can slowly lower the weight to the ground after a clean and jerk instead of dropping it like a retard.
>>37698523
Its tight quads, happend to me too after I started squatting 5 times a week with no stretching
Man I fell for that mene
>>37703288
I'm used to squatting heavy and frequently 4 days a week, surely I'll manage the volume?
>>37703236
>>37703390
his point may be more along the lines that maybe you should get your technique sorted first
maybe do classics tech work in the morning and improve your mobility, then do a normal strength and bodybuilding workout in the afternoon? That is, if you're intent on this
>>37703360
kek
this is some next level shit
does this every happen to anybody after squats?
>>37703390
>4 days a week
>meaningful volume
and yeah there's absolutely no need for you to double day right now
>>37702797
Fuck off, don't ruin my shitpost. I've got these lads mad.
>>37703543
go back to /b/ you fucking faggot.
>>37703543
blue shoes is underage mods pls ip ban
Who called me out for not being able to snatch the bar? I want to show u something .
>>37703667
deliuge
he called you a weak white boy with a small dick and said you get injured all the time because of your inferior white genes
>>37703667
dont post your dick
>>37703684
https://www.instagram.com/p/BHIUFs2jMy-/?taken-by=japadu
>>37703610
Screw you man, you're not my mum!
>>37703649
>>37703660
>>37703543
what was it?
>>37703740
>>37703756
i wish plg would leave
>>37703756
Thamkz
>>37698434
>>37703712
why wouldn't you be able to snatch? did you hurt something again
>>37703816
i have 2 tears in my meniscus. radial and oblique
>>37703891
you probably know this but continued lifting may not be the best idea for now
>>37703905
thats why i dont squat or clean and jerk and only snatch starting this week once a week. Also why im on hgh and cissus
>>37698239
I hate the fact that they make up "sports" for faggots that aren't athletic enough to do a traditional sport, just to make themselves feel like an athlete, fucking faggots. It's basically an "EVERYBODY GETS A TROPHY!" But for adults
>>37700637
Damn what shoes are those. Want so bad
>>37704087
weak chinks BTFO
>>37703942
How's the hgh going?
I take cissus deffo helps aches and pains but of course hgh is the real shit to heal injuries
>>37704763
>>37703942
never heard of cissus but I looked it up
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24113700
>METHODS:
Twenty-nine men between the ages of 20 and 46 years, who reportedly experienced chronic joint pain as a result of strenuous exercise, participated in our pilot study. All men received CQ 3200 mg daily for 8 weeks. Before and after the 8-week intervention period, subjects completed a questionnaire to determine their degree of joint pain (Western Ontario and McMaster Universities Index of Osteoarthritis [WOMAC]). Clinical measures (eg, heart rate, blood pressure, blood biomarkers) were also collected for each subject pre- (baseline) and post-intervention.
>RESULTS:
Subject ratings for multiple variables within the WOMAC Index improved (decreased) significantly (P < 0.05), with the subject mean total WOMAC score decreasing from 25.4 ± 2.4 to 17.4 ± 2.1 (~31%), pre- to post-intervention. No clinical measure was significantly impacted by use of CQ supplementation.
Never heard of WOMAC but could be placebo. Is it analgesic only or do you find actual hypertrophy/strength progress too?
This study was inconclusive as to that part:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22976133
Would love a RCT if muscle building studies weren't so shit
>>37705095
cissus was used in another study on dogs by the soviet union. look up that one
>>37705155
cbf, you do it
I'm already doubting it's efficacy just by that abstract tho
>>37705160
It's been used by Indians for millennia to heal broken bones and it has like 1000 reviews on bodybuilding.com
>>37703360
No idea. If its really heavy I understand but if your just reping shit I don't understand. If you watch the fucking crossfit games they do that shit. You seem how many times you can lift like 135 but they fucking drop it in between each one even though not saves time.
>>37705413
plg pls go
back 2 training tomorrow
feeling redy
>>37700236
Didn't the neutral good guy lift for his dead wife?
>>37705819
yes
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matthias_Steiner
>>37705807
what anime
>>37705413
It would be way more impressive to watch someone clean a shit ton of weight and put it down gently instead of dropping it.
tired legs from the heavy squats but not a ton of form breakdown which is good.
my 90-95% are getting very consistent
doing a mock comp type max weekend of the 23rd will b interesting
>>37705921
no it wouldn't
it would be pointless and stupid
julia is so hot
i dont even know what she's saying
https://vimeo.com/69271921
and germans have beautiful jerk unlike ugly koreans btw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=poEF7OnsWEM&feature=youtu.be
I cant get enough of this vid
>>37706124
Calm the fuck down, you look like a jerky asshole.
>>37706466
those are some ugly ass chink power snatches what the fuck is wrong with you
>>37706552
it's
pretty fast
>>37706466
Wrong country pal
Before I joined the owg gym i couldn't squat the bar and was skinny fat at 188cm
I can squat and deadlift at least 2 plates for reps now, but still look exactly the same. I'm learning how to snatch now
Will I ever I look like /fit/ from doing owg?
>>37700169
Anaboliiiiiiiiiics mother fuckeerrrrrrr. If you wanna lift 400+ pounds over your head many, many times a year then you need chemical assistance to recover.
>>37700882
>http://breakingmuscle.com/strength-conditioning/how-to-brace-and-breathe-properly-for-weightlifting
????
>>37701376
Yes. I lift 4 days a week and I do jump drills and other plyo work on two of my off days. I don't go too crazy, but I do try to push myself a little bit. It's supposed to be 'active recovery' so if I feel myself straining I back off.
Don't do sprints, though. Seems like an 'off season' activity.
>>37705095
No muscle building effect at all but cissus but other studies showed fracture time reduced and bone density in elderly increase significantly vs placebo. On phone so cba to find study now
I deffo feel like it helps with joint soreness
>>37706466
Gwen is awful
>>37705921
you clearly haven't done any olympic weightlifting in your entire life so please stop.
>>37698866
Holy shit I remember seeing your videos on youtube a while back.
Still failing to bench 100kg lel?
You're pathetic and you look like a pedophile
>>37706290
pure germanic waifu
>>37707156
Just like any other athlete out there, its your choice how buff you want to get. Is it necessary for your sport? Maybe not.
>>37706124
What kind of program you are running now?
>>37700882
You're not fat, you're just bulking up. CMON
>>37706124
I'm happy that your coach is being great to your training OB. Happy to know you're making good progress and getting stronger.
>>37707156
Gotta eat big to get big
also doing upperbody compounds with good frequency and volume.
>>37703762
That's not /plg/, that's the lanky autist wearing blue shoes aka olympic man. >>37698911
Today i saw a skinny ~16 year old boy doing snatch with IMPOSSIBLE speed. It really made me question why am i doing this. Just felt stupid doing my clumsy slow snatches after seeing it :(
Boohoo.
Just hit a 200kg squat lads. Blue shoes is toast.
>>37709557
Trappy, will doing 3x8 curls 3x8 tris after one session and 3x8 Chins and 3x8 dips after another session be enough for some juicer arms? I don't have much time to add bbing
>>37709931
how long you've been training and how you train effect this
>tfw power everything because I end up catching high, or not at all.
When I start at the power position I can do full movements, but I can't comfortably go from floor to a very close power. Any drills to help with this?
>>37710723
And if I do, I move very slow. My pulls and getting under are very fast when I power it. I'm afraid if I try to move slower I'll lose power
>>37710723
How's your mobility?
>>37698434
are you kidding? This is my working OHP weight and I am not even close to being any sort of "powerlifter"
>>37710959
Mobility is very good.
>>37711042
Then there's probably something causing a mental block, if it's not technique or mobility (can only tell that with a video)
Incorporating snatch balance and overhead squat if you don't already can help build confidence
>>37710964
>>37698866
>Being this insecure
You're never too weak or new to start getting competition experience. The more you compete, the easier it will be in the future. You are the ones who tell that you will compete when you reach a 120kg snatch. Then you reach it, and say that "nah i still suck, i will compete when i hit 130kg", and then if you will compete, you will just suck more because you don't have that competition experience.
>>37711117
I'm thinking it has to do with the bars distance away from me by the time it passes my knees.
>>37711117
I have no problems getting low, it's just when I catch, the bar is too far away from me to get under. So I end up just catching it right where I pulled it. I'll try to post video one of these days.
Honestly I'm kind of glad they caught these dopers, but gene doping is right around the corner so...
By 2024 I predict this will be a big issue.
4 all da fools doubting CJ and his jerk is bad duuuuude is so bad
better than alex lee who bombed out at pan ams again
>>37711383
I'm on mobile can you tell me how much he lifted, what lift, and if its successful?
>>37711486
I'm on hospital wifi now and can't leave this page.
>>37711486
download playerxtreme app, copy the webm url and paste it in your playerxtreme browser
>>37711139
If the bar is too far away then you're doing something wrong somewhere. Get a video up lad
my legs wouldnt warm up
i'll do heavier this afternoon
>>37711486
180 c&j
>>37711595
can you post a video of you squatting fully from the side
I want to see how proportional your legs are
>>37711689
idk we'll see
>>37711669
>natty
>No matter how much you stretch you will never be as upright in the bottom position as a 5'6" chink
WHY EVEN LIFT
>>37711885
Get higher heels
>>37700236
>neutral evil
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ded8BeTjRg
baka desu senpai
>>37712028
did he throw the barbell at the judges
>>37712047
it seems so
>>37700418
I'm sorry but how is 120 kilos equivalent to 105 kilos? Doesn't the IPF have an 105 class?
>>37712028
D E V I L I S H
>>37712028
He's a big guy
>>37712169
Idiot of the year award goes to
>>37708811
Much more heavy strength work and more volume, actual tough working sets
The main diff is that old coachs programs were also geared towards the crossfit people lifting in the gym but i wasnt at the same sched/timing to be on the nat. Team program
For example today i have 3x3 back squats at 90% (130kg)
W previous coach i dont think i ever really touched anything above 80% let alone heavy trips
Basically just heavier/ more volume i can post my next 3weeks if u wana see
>>37712169
ipf has 105 120 and 120+
>>37711383
What fucking shoes are those and where do I cop them?
>>37712696
Reebok
Any of you guys ever had garlic bananas b4? I just had like 6, so fucking good.
>>37712696
http://www.garagegymreviews.com/2016/05/11/reebok-legacy-weightlifting-shoes/
>>37700637
>sumo """"""""""deadlift""""""""""
Hey I'm big strong China #1 just lift 100kg today in clean jerk I lift 4 year now going to Olympic 2020 Tokyo
>>37712895
Forgot my name haha sorfy
>>37712772
>>37712717
Ah, they look a lot cheaper than they did in the CJ video.
>>37712924
>>37712895
What did you do with Pas????
>>37712965
>>37712904
Here demonstrate 100kg lift small China penis require better technique superior stance I ask for $40 week training plan private message me [email protected]
Hi bros. I first did weightlifting about a year ago (once a week shitty classes) and taking it serious (proper wl routine) since January
My best snatch I did 2 months ago is 87.5kg. I feel like I've got technically better yet I couldn't hit 85kg today or last week either
Is this normal and should I just keep working at 80%? My numbers should be better considering my front and back squat. It's demoralising I just wanna hit that 90kg and move on up from there
>>37698911
>RealisticThisFrog.webm
>>37713044
Your 'working' max--the most weight you are *actually* able to hit on a given day--is going to fluctuate over the course of a training cycle.
What does your routine look like?
>>37713044
>It's demoralising I just wanna hit that 90kg and move on up from there
Just do it then. Physical strength almost doesn't matter before 120kg snatch. For lighter weights a strong mental resolution is usually enough.
>>37713232
I've been able to hit 95% for a single the last three times I've tried with no misses, so at least that's not too bad
I train 4days a week, varied volume and intensity over the course of 8weeks. It's written by a good coach, unfortunately I don't get to lift with him as often as I like
I've not taken to this naturally lol, I'm 30 but I still feel like I can hit a 100snatch oneday
>>37713261
That's my point. I can't 'just do it's even though I'm deffo strong enough (160 back 140 front squat)
>>37713340
You stand no chance at lifting the weight without first understanding why you want to lift it. A weak-willed individual can only manage to recruit 20% of his muscle fibres during a 1RM whereas a strong-willed individual can recruit upwards of 80% fibres during a 1RM. That is why an untrained 100lb woman can flip over a overturned car to save their child trapped underneath but they can't deadlift 135lbs in normal circumstances.
Fuck this is amazing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgyqAD5Z6_A
John Oliver on the doping scandals in the olympics
Funniest shit
>>37713516
>john oliver
>>37713544
>judging a book by the cover
No wonder you're 15
>>37713461
I think you're meming slightly, it's not like I can't pull it from the floor, I had it over my head.
But you're right to an extent I think I get wrapped up in numbers (should hit x in x months lifting) which this forum doesn't help with... but maybe just accept every 8 week program may not result in a pr and just to enjoy running it again
>>37713340
>>37713461
For a weightlifting specific example look up Mattias Steiner. He was a natural German lifter who beat doped Russian and Latvian lifters. They may have been more physically strong but he was motivated by a desire to avenge his dead wife.
>>37713649
>natural
FUCKING KEK
>>37713649
Steiner is far from being natural. iirc he was accused of doping long time ago and his coach is "second most doped East German athlete."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Mantek
>>37713649
hahahahaha don't be stupid, they all take steroids and "wanting it more" does not help much at all if the other guy is juiced to the gills, steroids make you heal fast, move faster, be stronger etc....... The whole reason they are Olympic athletes in the first place is because they are all incredibly motivated.
pic related a "natural" olympic weightlifter.
>>37713721
Since the early 2000s Germany has had the most stringent anti doping agency (NADA) in the world. Steiner is more likely to be natural then Farris or Hennequin.
>>37713461
Oh wise and please tell me how to recruit % of my muscle memes. I want to be like lu
>>37713766
You need strong motivation to maximise recruitment. Tell yourself you will delete the essay which you have been working on for the past week and which is due tomorrow, unless you make the 90kg snatch you want. I guarantee you will make it.
>>37713765
It can be as stringent as it wants, they all take steroids, and many people have taken steroids all their lives and been caught only after many years.
some have never been caught, again, klokov is a perfect example.
another example is lance armstrong, for decades he lied about not using steroids and he was tested numerous times, yet was never caught till long after.
>>37713764
>move faster
No steroids don't make you move faster
Source: durkz
>>37713765
But Steiner isn't a German, he's Austrian that competed for Germany he was hitting 220 as a 105 for Austria which is the same as what the Russian 105s do in that era
>>37713800
Klokov was never caught because of hid father's involvement with the IWF.
>>37713827
ahhh of course they don't, thats why sprinters never take steroids, or maybe cyclists don't? oh wait they both do.
>>37713766
People who hasn't been training long enough thinks this is a joke. You will know how much of a bitch you are when a 16 yr old who just has it, shows up at your gym and lifts more than you
>>37713836
all you have to do is think very carefully, if lance armstrong got a away with it for 15 years, who else has gotten away with it?
bear in mind that klokov takes steroids and his competitors still sometime beat him or come very close to him? how do they do it? pic related is ilya ilyin, only recently caught.
>>37713842
Yeah bro take some steroids will make you break all records by 1 second
Just take more steroids it will make you sanic fast
Idiot trappy
>>37713872
another natural weightlifter, never caught lu xiajun.
firstly, all the sprinters take steroids, secondly, absoloutley true that steroids make you faster, why wouldn't they?
>>37713516
fuck off reddit.
>>37713044
>My numbers should be better considering my front and back squat
>should be
it doesnt work like that! my stats in the classics are pretty much same as yours but i have higher numbers in the accessories. weightlifting is not only a strength sport but also a strength of balance and technique
>>37713835
This
Even if he was natty while lifting for Germany a life as a doped athlete before that greatly enhances you even after you stop
>>37713857
Jokes on u there's a 16 yr old who is lighter and out lifts pretty much everyone here already at my gym
>Tfw too old a shit for seniors but not old enough for masters yet
>>37713959
Makes me feel better desu
Shall I stop worrying about personal records and just re start my program?
>>37707298
this wil fleming dude sure loves to go on and on
thanks tho
>>37713872
Wait, what?
I was busy working on an autopsy. Literally just came home.
>>37713864
Ilya looks so good here
normal, non-12 year old hair
cool singlet
body doesn't look like a giant baby crossed with potato
first time I've ever mired his physique
>>37714445
>Normal hair
That's basement dweller school shooter hair
His side parting has been his only sensible hair cut
>>37714464
it just looks like he got sweaty and it flopped forward
his side parting makes him look like a supermarket bagger
>>37714301
as long as your program has decent exercise selection and has a balanced intensity you should be able to gain no matter what.
as for personal records, you should attempt it every 3 or more weeks.
focus on gaining at least 2.5 kg on both snatch and cj every 2 months.
it might not sound that much but if you accomplish it in a year you could gain 15 kg by the end of the year.
you can and should gain a lot more in squats and pulls.
>>37714726
What do I do when I don't add that 2.5kg tho?
I last tried 90kg 8weeks ago and tried it again today and couldn't
Should I not panic, go back to my program and go again in a few weeks?
I'm hitting 95% more easily atleast
Thanks for help m8
>>37714757
there are often times people dont get the 2.5 boost but there are multiple factors why it would happen.
i think technique is most common for people at this level. you can add exercises to your program if you feel the need for it (like hang stuff and jerk stuff).
mentality can be another factor but if you have strength to lift it, you can drink a lot of caffeine and cross your finger.
an example of this would be back when i did 80 kg snatch i couldnt jump to 85 for few weeks but a month later i did 91kg.
if its strength related, dont attempt pr until you raise your accessories more.
Morning laddds
And goodnighty now
>>37714857
I don't think it's strength. Technique definitely.
When I hit 80 for first time I went from 75-82.5 so hoping I'll get all those 2.5 jumps I missed in one go again
It's just demoralising cos I feel like I should be able to do more. A big problem for me is mobility I catch all snatches high, I'm working on it but it's a slow progress. That's what I get for starting weightlifting at 30...
>>37715041
weightlifters can still get strong passing age 30. my coach was doing 210 high cleans as doubles when he was 35 years old.
but your body gets stiff a lot when you get older so youre more prone to injurie which means you should work more on warm ups and mobility
I've been lifting for about 3 months, 3 times a week in an oly gym, not crossfit or anything resembelant, but we don't really have a coach/trainer. They used to have on before i joined tho. Lots of lifters with 10-16years experience is often present but some of them say different things. As for example when working snatch/clean pulls. Some say its okay to include the last "kick" in all weight% when doing the repetitions, and some say you should exclude it in each rep. Some say its okay on low weights, some say its not. But thats just an example. We all help eachother out and have and good grasp on whats good/bad.
My point is, with the experience i have (which is not much) how do i know whats reliable information within the realm of technique and what's not? I know i've gotta figure shit on my own and i'm working on it, but i'm not sure who's realiable among the 3-4 most experienced lifters. What do?
My C&J has gone from 60-100kg.
Snatch has gone from 30-80 kg.
Reason of rapid progress is my earlier experience with lifting, being "in the game" for 4 years and knowing my strength/weaknesses and how to adapt and improve technique, but i had a break for two months being sick and losing weight (77-66kg) and now i plan on competing in 69kg class.
Im afraid of variying too much technique-wise and ending up with stalling/fucking up my form.
TL;DR: noob lifter with some exp, experienced athletes at my gym, not knowing who's the most reliable and in which one to trust. How do i sort out the bullshit?
Also excuse my bad explaining ability.
>>37715209
as an extra note, i know i'm still a complete beginner and should just focus on basics but i like to build a good technique as fast as possible.
>>37715209
>focus on basics but i like to build a good technique as fast as possible.
>>37715233
what the fuck are you talking about?
basics = technique, if you have the basics down you will have good technique
what the fuck is "kick"
>>37715274
Well i know what you mean, i gave a heads up on weird explanation. By basics i mean how the snatch/C&J should look and feel like, but it will never become perfect. I might be worrying too much but i'm putting my trust in the experienced people at my gym, but not knowing who to fully trust, if you know what i mean.
The "kick" i'm referring to is maybe what you call "the second pull" or when you hit/brush the bar with your hip in order to move the bar vertical. Fuck i suck at explaining but you get the point. Question is still standing
>>37715209
the kick, if youre talking about something similar to webm related you should do it. my coach said it was optional but i should do it. remember that the power of the bar going up from the hips is through the extension of the hips not the knees or ankle.
>Some say its okay on low weights, some say its not.
if youre working on speed (as you should) you can do it
if youre doing deadlifts you can shrug
>how do i know whats reliable information within the realm of technique and what's not?
you dont as a beginner, you should look up stuff though
idk why you wouldnt trust these experienced lifters tho
hit my best triple for 3sets
strength goin up
why does webm for retards always cut off a bit
>>37716086
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>>37716086
3x3 @ 130kg*
>>37716086
you shift left on each rep, maybe one of the sides of your hips is tight or something
>>37716086
Do you set the limit to 3mb and set the best resolution
>>37716154
not even best res, i put max at 3.0mb tho
>>37716145
right hip is tighter than left if that makes sense
>>37716221
if you shift too much and keep doing it you'll injure your hips, tearing a labrum or smth.
better deal with it before it gets worse lad.
>>37716360
if i dont stretch my hips/quads/ keep up on ab work it gets worse.
its better than it once was, im still working on it tho
>>37716221
>>37716360
also webm for retards will cut off the video instead of dropping the quality if it reaches a certain threshold.
first day of back2hevy weights
squats went ok and i completed what i was supposed to minimally
when i was doing classics i was being too fast/overpowering weights
is snatching/ drop snatching more than 5 reps dum?
>>37711760
wow get that CP outta here commie! this is a SFW board!
>>37715577
thanks senpai.
when it comes to the experienced lifters, they often contradict eachother which is frustrating as im a beginner
>>37716086
I use adobe premiere for webms. Literally perfect.
And you can mess around with the quality and cropping and every detail you want.
>>37706290
fuggggg
>>37716672
Nothing wrong with sets of 5 rep snatch.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KADBnHv_UBY&t=4m50s
Drop snatch is a meme lift.
>>37717607
I'm too lazy and my computer is slower than fuck. I wish u would make webms of me.
>>37717802
Post a vid and I'll do it
how do i stop my back foot from rotating inwards on the split jerk?
>>37705819
i cry every time
>>37718277
dont
that's what your supposed to do
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CW_EM_v4bjc
4:20
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQQUEIr5m7A
watch the coach kick her heels out rotating her feet inward
>>37716360
It's very subtle / little though. 130kg isn't enough to do that yet.
Definitely needs to be addressed a bit.
>>37716428
I have similar problem but much harder for me to address since I got operated on my meniscus but it still is hurting when squatting even a year later. Most of the time I just focus on keeping my knees out but a huge problem I have is that one leg is a little more muscled and stronger which breaks symmetry.
i cried after practice today
must be the tren senpai
>>37717792
Why is the drop snatch meme?
Can any of you do HSPU like klokov? How do you guys program them?
