We need new "strength standards", as the current 1234 is way too easy to achieve, and happens with mediocre effort in 2 years unless you're just fucking dumb, undiciplined or disabled.
How does 2-3-4.5-5.5 sound to you lads?
It took me seven months to squat 4 plates and deadlift 5 plates.
6'3", 205 lbs here.
The standard for two years of lifting should be 7 plate squat and 8 plate deadlift. Any less and you're a twink.
>>37661970
2/3/4/5 minimum
I achieved 2/3/4/5 in like 6 months
I think 3/4/5/6 is a better standard
When people say 1-2-3-4 do they mean for reps or as 1RMs?
>>37662035
>>37662141
>>37661970
>2plate OHP
100kg OHP is way harder than achieving a 220kg DL
I can't even squat 1pl8, fuck my life
>>37662177
yeah if you've got low test
>>37661970
1/2/3/4 is literally the strength standard for "should be achieved in the first year of lifting"
Beyond that really depends on the persons goals.
Powerlifting, Weightlifting, Bodybuilding, Strongman, General Strength and Fitness, Lifting as accessory to other sport, ...
You really can't come up with strength standards that compare different sports.
Is a powerlifter going to OHP as much as a weightlifter or Strongman? Probably not.
Does a bodybuilder care about how much he lifts? No.
>>37662141
sure, but you must have lifted before the 6 months? im about 3 months in on babbylover's SS doing slightly more than half of 1/2/3/4 with no prior gym experience
>>37662155
reps brah
>>37661970
Mate I achieved 1/2/3/4 the first time stepping my foot inside of a gym.
2/4.5/6/7 should be the standard
>>37662274
I rolled out of my hospital bed after 3 rounds of chemotherapy and 3 months later I had 1/2/3/4 nailed. Never lifted before that. Within a year 2/3/4/5
Who would tell lies on the Internet?
>>37661970
4/4/4/4
>>37662583
>only achieving 2/3/4/5 after a year
Get checked for low testosterone
>>37661970
this shit is retarded
some fat fuck 110kg guy can easily do that shit
compared to some skinny 70kg cunt
it should be a % of bodyweight or some other shit
>>37662606
% of bodyweight just reverses who gets screwed in that instance.
>>37662606
the idea is that gaining muscular bodyweight is part of the process and that you move towards whatever bodyweight is appropriate for your height. if you deliberately avoid gaining muscle mass then yes, you'll always be weaker than expected. that's your choice.
>>37662591
ONE
MORE
SCOOP
C'MON!
>>37661970
>mfw haven't reached 1/2/3/4 in first year because fuckarounditis
now I'm stuck with a shoulder injury and can't do shit for a month.
>>37662155
1rm. Ss cucks will say 5 reps lol
Should be as a % of bw. A 100kg guy ohp 1pl8 is not nearly as impressive as a 70kg guy ohp 1pl8. Should be bw/1.5x/2x/3xbw.
For me thats an 80kh ohp, 120bench,160 squat and 240dl.
>>37663349
Thing is, bodyweight multiples don't scale either. A 3xBW deadlift is barely remarkable for a small guy. It's likely to be a national damn record for the real heavyweights.
>>37662606
Irl it's .75 / 1 / 1.5 / 2 X body weight
1234 gives an advantage to fat fucks who are already at their genetic limit of muscle just from carrying around that extra mass, and need to cut for 3-4 years anyway
So in other words theres no way to make a comparison? But yeah youre right, given that a 100k person should dl 300kg, if that 100kg isnt all fat... when i was 85kg, i had a 200dl, and a 160 squat.. my flat mate (100kg) had the same stats.. but 15kg mass on me
>>37663421
You can maybe use wilks scores to compare, but that only works for squat/bench/dead not any other lifts.
>>37663436
Ill take relative strength over absolute strength.
Id rather be the little guy bashing out a 120 bench than the monster doing bw bench..
Last 4 number in your post determines your max
OHP / BENCH / SQUATS / DEADLIFT
>>37663492
rollin'
>>37663492
Ill roll
>>37662020
You should go to a doctor, you might have low test. Wit normal test, maybe you could reach some decent numbers, baby
>>37662155
5 reps.
