Give me one reason not to roid and get an aesthetic body to get hit on by hot sluts
>>37626269
bump, i need a reason too
>>37626269
because you dont know how to roid and will most likely kill yourself from heart failure
BUTTTTTTTTTTTTTT
If you know how to use them safely, then theres no reason not to do it. Unless your a poorfag then get a car first before spending money.
You can have all the mussels in the world you and you will still have severe autism so it won't actually help. But maybe once you are roided out and look like a douchebag you will finally stop using your body as an excuse for
>no friends
>no social skills
>no life
Good luck, both of you
>>37626269
Hot sluts are getting hit on constantly and don't ahve to hit on you even if you're 10/10
>>37626269
cause it wont happen
you will be hit on only by trashy sluts
your balls with shrink
your money will be wasted
and when you stop roiding you will hate life
but i really know nothing,just my idea of what it will be like if i took roids.
And it wont fix your ugliness.
just lifting is enough improvement.
>>37626269
Listen here motherfucker. Best advice you'll ever get.
ALWAYS CHOOSE THE HARD PATH!
Group work and one of you has to do the presentation? Choose the hard path.
Two job offers but one is more challenging with similar pay? Choose the hard path.
Do steroids or work out and eat clean and achieve the same results a few months later? Choose the hard path.
It is the best thing you can do. You get used to uncomfortable shit like presentations, hard work, getting your body to its limits and so on. A faggot who misses the comfortable life he had in the womb of his mother is condemned to failure as soon as he is challenged.
Think about the comfortable life most of us live.
You want something to eat? Order some shit instead of cooking. A few thousand years back you had to risk your life to get something to eat.
You want some fun? Turn on the playstation instead of playing some basketball with your friends. Watch porn and fap instead of going out and try to get laid. You can still fap after you failed.
You want some shit you can't afford? Debt is your answer, instead of working and saving some money.
So if you want your dream body work for it!
>>37626269
Roids just end up making you look shittier.
Reaching an amount of muscularity that women get wet from in 5 seconds is achievable without roids, pussy.
>>37626643
*tip*
>>37626316
Yes, but there are mostly getting hit on by guys they would never fuck. 10/10 guys are rarer than even 10/10 chicks, so yes, they might hit on them but in their minds, they aren't hitting on them. Maybe just standing next to him or looking at him a little longer than usual to give him a hint.
>>37626269
Muscles cant fix ugly or autism
>>37626269
CHAD eats PIZZA and fucks SLUTS while YOU have AUTISM and ROID
Realistically, roids work, they aren't that expensive, and there's enough information out there that you should be able to get the body you want without fucking up your hormones as long as you do your research.
You can be aesthetic without them. It will take much longer, and some parts of the process (bulking/cutting) may be particularly difficult depending on your genetic disposition. But if you're smart and patient you should end up looking pretty good either way.
Steroids can make you look like a superhero, but they can also carry complications like acne and hair loss, not to mention the risk of serious heart and liver problems down the road. You can probably manage these fine, but if you stay natty you won't ever have to worry about it at all.
Up to you compadre.
You think sluts will make you happy but they won't
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17el62iBEdU
Brazilian vlogger who claims to have been sterile because of steroids.
>>37626269
>trips on /fit/
>trip is God
IV about 25g of Test in your femoral artery, girls will be much less repulsed by you afterwards. Hope this helps.
>>37626269
cause you dont need roids, and roids will kill you?
>>37626269
>>37626269
Because no amount of gains will compensate for an ugly face, or lack of height. Sorry.
>>37627002
but what if i have a good face and am 6'3"
>>37626665
Fuck off he's got a point
>>37627041
http://www.manthesis.com/5-reasons-why-every-man-should-lift-weights-and-work-out/
Yep
>>37626269
Natty limit is more than enough for normies, beware of your body dysmorphia
It fucks with your health, that's the only valid reason.
>>37626674
You think a good body make up 10/10?
Kek!
>>37627086
It totally defeats the real purpose of weight lifting, girls are just a extra benefit.
>>37626643
So why do you choose the hard path? What you are describing makes the easy path side effect free
>>37627041
He does have a point, but he's also being fedora-tier dramatic
Might have to be dependent on it for the rest of your life.
But still, go for it, man. If it's not for you then just do your PCT and come off of it.
>>37627100
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Character_mask
Its about detaching yourself, enlightenment and ego death. I do a lot of psychedelics, self proclaimed pyschonaut. You should just read the article. Allan watts on YouTube is also great for this. Basically just not developing personal attachment and simply being aware is ego death. Meditation+real LSD is a lovely evening for me, gonna delve into DMT at one point. Might have a shaman for that one. Love my shroomies to :3
>>37626269
you have to stick needles in your ass twice a week
>>37627182
Wrong bread.
>>37626643
>natty gains
>comparable to steroids
>steroids
>easy
Steroids let you lift more. They dont magically make you big
>>37627269
>they dont magically make you big
actually, they do
>>37627127
Well, the easy path has its side effects too. For example the debt I mentioned.
Imagine you stop watching movies every week on your couch and only go to the cineme if a really good movie premieres. I guarantee it you'll enjoy the movie even more. It feels great if you bench on the same level as your buddy who ran a cycle last year. He's going to run another.
You can't deny that something you've worked for feels awesome.
>>37626269
Stop being a little bitch and actually push yourself at the gym instead?
>>37627035
Then you wouldn't need an aesthetic body to get hit on by girls and this topic would be pointless?
>>37627002
Is there hope for manlets with attractive faces?
>>37627269
Let's say you want to run a marathon. You could run it like everyone else or you could run downhill. Same distance, different challenge.
>>37627451
yeah but like why wouldnt you wanna be a full 10 instead of just an 8 or 9
>>37626846
25 GRAMS
CMON
>>37626269
The pros are transient. The cons are forever.
Cons:
1) Hair loss.
2) Gyno
3) Acne everywhere, including backne
4) Bloated, puffy moon face
And that's just cosmetic side effects. More serious cons include
5) Hypogonadism and infertility.
6) High blood pressure, which leads to
7) Heart disease; increased risk of stroke and heart attack
8) Kidney disease is another side effect of high blood pressure
9) Liver disease
10) Emotional instability--depression, rage, anxiety, etc.
Pros:
1) A temporary increase in strength
2) Maybe 15 lb of extra muscle. You might gain more but it's water weight and you'll look like shit anyway.
It's a complete fallacy that the average steroid user looks better or is much stronger than the average natty. Most steroid users have more in common with these pathetic losers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VrMUuOrZjs [Embed]
Another fallacy is that using steroids will put you on the level of the natty limit, or beyond. The average fraud has an FFMI of 23.5, which is well under the projected natty limit of 25.0. The only cheating frauds who even look good are the ones who would have looked good anyway if they had stayed natty.
Lastly, bear in mind Jason Blaha is an admitted steroid user who has used multiple compounds along with HGH peptides for 20 years. Twenty years--the number two followed by a zero--of taking steroids. To look like this.
So you tell me, is it worth it?
>>37627451
Nah that's ain't true
>>37626643
>Do steroids or work out and eat clean and achieve the same results a few months later?
this better be pasta
if not, kindly go back to where you came from. thanks.
>>37628015
>It's a complete fallacy that the average steroid user looks better or is much stronger than the average natty
you probably think mike o hearn and jeff are natty
roiding defeats the purpose of lifting. It is cheat codes that come with real negative side effects that will affect you your whole life
we've all heard the cliche saying of it's not the destination, it's the road towards it. same principle applies to lifting man. you build yourself when you realize how much time and dedication you must put in to see results; it humbles you and helps you grow as a person
roids and aesthetics is NOT the key to life. you will not instantly get hot bitches, life will not treat you like a star. it will just be you still.
and lets remember the real and factual side effects of roids:
http://www.webmd.com/fitness-exercise/20050316/why-steroids-are-bad-for-you
http://www.cesar.umd.edu/cesar/drugs/steroids.asp
http://www.crchealth.com/addiction/about-steroids/
Don't listen to pesudo studies and facts that roiders on here and in /fraud/ spout about how roids is super ok if you do your research. They are wrong.
>>37626643
>>37626664
>>37627345
>>37628015
>>37628525
steroids are magic. yes you have to continue working hard. and your health takes a hit no matter how you cut it. for me the advantages are worth it
>lifting is 100x more fun
>skin tearing pumps that make you want to cry
>everyone jelly as fuck
>girls can smell it on you, especially tren
>more confidence
>the libido of a rutting rhino
>more energy throughout the day
>more respect from male peers
i respect the natty road but you will not get 1/100th of these pleasures, sorry guys.
my health markers are fine apart from slightly elevated BP. i have a full of head of hair after multiple cycles and one long blast. i got a QT red pill gf as well, and im a reasonably autistic.
TLDR do roids its fun and cool
>>37627465
Of course there is just don't be an insecure fuck and also go for girls shorter than you
>>37628589
oh and im below average in the looks department. before i roided girls weren't interested.
>disclaimer: this wont work if youre a manlet. you just look like an overcompensating idiot sorry
>>37626269
30 year old bro here, do it, you wont regret it. Going natural for 10 years feels like a waste, wont look anything special, roids will able you to go easy (chad eating pizza) and look absolutely amazing
>>37628589
i'd hop on some test but I'm too scared to lose my hair
>>37628628
i always had a full head, absolutely no signs of receding before i started (i was 24) and low and behold i kept it all. if you show any signs of receding then you are right to be worried.
>>37628589
>assuming others will not enjoy things as much as you because of steroids
>>37628589
Whats the deal with becomming sterile? That's just when youre on but once you PCT your fine right
>>37628683
there are no long term studies. you are taking a risk. but you're pretty much right yeah.
with that said, the risk apears to be small because reports of people being permanently infertile are incredibly rare. so rare in fact, they could have been infertile in the first place.
>>37628702
Infertile isn't as bad as a limpdick
>>37628702
Thats good to know, thats the only thing that was scaring me
>>37626312
>mussels
I don't like seafood
>>37628727
im a little worried about it myself because i do want kids. when i next come off i am going to freeze some sperm just in case.
>>37628744
Yeah its bad enough if youre born that way but a fuckload worse if you do it to yourself
Thats a good idea
Lift till you're gonna big enough to wear a large and its not that loose, then wear a medium sized shirt instead, cheaper than roids and easy mires, the smedium effect is amazing
>>37626269
Contrary to popular beliefs women don't think bacne, acne, stretch marks and baldness is hot
There is a reason that everyone who advocates against steroid use has never used themselves, or had a bad experience.
Steroids are magic. If you have lifted for a couple of years, understand diet, your body, your progress and growth, then you take the most minor possible blast (*500mg test-e) you will also think its magic. Every single lifter that has done roids, properly with bloodworks, AI management and cruise/PCT, has been blown away. For a reason.
Don't ask about it on this board, everyone is lol ameircan cheaters natty is best. If your actually interested, just read reddits steroid sub/bodybuilding forums.
I blasted obscene amounts of sterons for 3 years, came off to join the military and everything was fine. Balls recovered fine, test levels bounced back to what they were before (above average), lost a lot of size but the capped delts and a lot of the 3 dimensional look stayed around.
Now I'm considering hopping back on if I can work out the logistics of doing it on a submarine. Roiding just makes life better, feel better, fuck better, look better. Adverse health effects are overstated, I was on 1.5g of tren and a cocktail of other drugs for those 3 years completely disregarding my health and I'm perfectly healthy with a full head of hair today.
>>37626269
You'll die young and roiding won't fix your autism.
>>37627182
ego death is a meme some dumb hindu started in india
Everyone in india was retarded and thought sitting around in a day dream was super spiritual so now they all sit around doing nothing for hours slipping in and out of sleep.
>>37629348
>>37628895
You're going to face a sad reality once you start getting older
>>37628589
ill still be lifting when you are dead
have fun with your roids
>>37628609
See Zac Efron
>>37629422
I've had full medical evaluations post-sterons and there has literally been no lingering side effects. Bloods all healthy. Heart still healthy. Endocrine system still working better than most. I'm already over the hill and older, but have higher natty test than most 25 year olds despite running grams of tren and halo through my nuts. PCT was a single shot of triptolerin, nothing else.
Protip: triptolerin is the magic anti-steron queers don't want you to know about.
>>37626269
You'll still be an autistic faggot, but with acne and bitchtits.
>>37629428
Everyone dies eventually
>>37629701
do you want to die 20-30 years before everyone else?
all those pro wrestlers dying at 50? they did roids too
>>37627286
/thread
>>37628589
how old were you when you started famalam? I'm 19 but want to get on cycle, nothing crazy, just 500mg Test E/wk
>>37629495
>trust me bro don't look at factual data from studies showing the side effects, take my word!
Can anyone tell my why its better to inject then taking the pills? cuz i rly dont get it.
>>37630038
talking out of my ass here but its probably something like this:
>injection
faster acting
less liver damage (talking out of my ass)
>oral
still have to digest
also, different compounds
>>37630106
Just google this shit @>>37630038
>>37626643
thank you so much for this motivational read.good luck to you sir
do roids, OP
then you will kill yourself and I wont have to read shitty threads like this on /fit/ as much.
go hard.
>>37630038
The best compounds are only injectable (tren and test primarily) they can also be done in one shot weekly instead of having to dose ~4 times a day
>>37630106
>>37630394
Thanks a bunch guys, also this info is alot easier to google
>>37626269
Because those sluts are doing starting silicon while you're doing starting strength.
Your body is a temple.
And a woman will be more interested in stealing your money anyways.
>>37626269
Because women still won't like you because you're a tripfag
>>37626269
the amount of photoshop on that image is literally distorting the space around the girl in the pic
>>37626269
Do it and never look back. I wish i started earlier because you don't want to spend your life in the gym to look like you don't even lift when you can take a shot and get massive.
>>37627286
Where is this from?
It looks convincing but what is up with those weird numbers?
>>37630428
You've obviously seen quite a few shops in your day
>to get hit on by hot sluts
you're gonna be disappointed
>not realizing cruising on a TRT dose will give you nothing but benefits
I'm only going to roid for my sport, I'm fine with being Otter for life
>>37630823
Gee, if only there was a citation or something...
>>37630823
I'm assuming here http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8637535
>>37626269
Holy shit that's some disgusting bokeh
>>37626269
Guess what faggot? If you're boring or stupid then it doesn't matter what you look like or how many roids you take, you're still boring and/or stupid.
Fix your real problems and leave the shitty chemicals alone, dumbfuck.
>>37626269
You are entering a death spiral of constantly trying to out-do womens' bloated expectations. Once you enter, there is no escape with your self intact. You will become jaded, empty, and constantly find dissatisfaction in all relationships with women as your mind drifts to and lingers on the thought of fucking.
You should do it. I'm sure you don't know what the fuck your doing and will, among other complications, look like total shit and better men will take your sluts.
Enjoy your body while you have it. What is the use in trying to stay healthy for old age when you never know if you will get hit by a bus tomorrow.
Roids will not cover up if you have a bad personality but it will create a smoke screen that hopefully won't clear until you have had sex with the girl and she realises what you are actually like.
Only works if you're a well-hung nig
Hot sluts want ottermode and a Chad face
>>37626269
Dieing during sex from a bad heart is very embrassing for you family
>>37632864
wtf
What dark eldritch abomination has taken control of their minds?
>>37632864
Just let the terrorists win. I don't care anymore
>>37632954
liberalism
>>37628408
They're obviously not natty but you'd be a fool to not realize they're genetically elite and hardly typical examples of steroid users. Most people will never be as strong as Mike O'Tren with all the steroids in the world.
As far as I know, Jeff is just a pretty boy faggot who takes up space without ever doing anything impressive in the gym. But he's still gifted in terms of aesthetics.
>>37626297
>kill yourself from heart failure
So go out in a blaze of aesthetic glory? I'm not hearing any negatives here.
>>37632864
Jesus they must have hated their coal burning daughter so much hahaha
>>37626643
>Two job offers but one is more challenging with similar pay? Choose the hard path.
If I do more work I expect more pay. Wanting to do more work for the same pay is straight up retarded.
>>37626269
You don't have to look good to pickup girls, just look remotely passable and act like a father figure and they'll latch onto you.
>>37626312
>douchebag
I bet when you get a gf you'll worship the ground she walks on
>>37629404
404 of truth
>>37626643
>Two job offers but one is more challenging with similar pay? Choose the hard path
I agree with everything else but this is pure retardation
>>37626269
if you're under 6ft, there is really no point roiding Save your money and get height surgery instead, manlet.
>>37626269
if you're just in it for hot sluts, you should focus on your image, career, house, car etc, before going down the roid route.
Imagine being a hulk, but in a shit job, living in a hole, with no car lol.
>>37626269
You'll die from a heart attack at 35.
>>37630428
I don't see the point of your image
>>37627182
>pyschonaut
you're just a failure of a man, dude. I knew a guy like you. He looks like he's in his 50s when he's actually 30. ALso he's fucked in the head and I would never employ him.
go straight edge. It's not too late hopefully.
>>37635620
You can still bang sluts though. Maybe not long lasting relationships.
>>37633083
>>37633783
I said more challenging. For example a job that requires you to work abroad a few weeks every year. Or something where you need to learn how to use a new software. Of course this could mean working more hours, but on the long run you raise your value and you will earn more.
>>37629404
Ego death is legit. Do some acid pal
Because muscles don't mean shit unless you have the FACE, FRAME and HEIGHT. Muscular manlets are just pathetic.
>>37635620
you can fuck sluts by being confident and not giving a fuck
>>37630823
>doesn't understand what a p-value is
Well i'm not on /sci/ after all...
Kys you faggit
>>37626269
Can't think of any. If you have the disposable income and a way to learn how to do it without getting gyno I'd say do it.
>>37626269
You'll fuck that up too like everything else and look like a freak with a shitty heart.
Maybe if you had learned hard work and research it wouldn't have gone so bad.
But it's too late now, just do it anon. Det an example for the rest of us so we remember the price you pay for sloth
