>using same same image as last thread because its the only one I have edition
I'm eating 500-600 above maintenance on tren and gaining 0 weight, actually losing a little. Strength is going up fast though and I am getting a bit leaner. I don't give a shit about strength though, only lean mass.
Should I keep the cals the same or up them?
>>37620789
What are you stacking with the tren?
how long have you been running it for?
tren ace or tren e?
what dosage?
>>37620799
only 250 test e and 500 tren e
been on for about 5 weeks but only been bulking for the past 2 because i wanted to give it at least some time to kick in.
I'm so sore from 15 sets of squats yesterday.
225x8 for 15. It's like 4000 lbs more work than my usual 225x10 x10. I'm getting a full back massage tonight. Plus, I'm fighting a cold.
>>37620789
If you're stronger you're gaining lean mass.
>>37620812
Both enanthate esters, so they'll take at least 4 weeks to build up in the blood. You've only been on for 5 weeks, which means at absolute best you've had a few days at max dosage. Give it time. Up your cals and up your test if you can.
>>37619868
What vocals tho.
>>37619868
We went to a pub with 600 kinds of beers first, then a winebar. Then a club. So.. Around 1L of strong beer and there was a wine thing where we had 6 different malbecs. But just a small sip each.
Threw back 300mg mdma and 50mg 4fa there. She took 200 mdma. Because, yknow, 6'0-6'1 VS 5'4.
Redosed 200/50 for me. 100/50 for her. And we ended with 25mg and 17mg 2cb.
If you'd go by alcohol in blood, I can usually drive within an hour. I hover near the legal limit. So +- 7-8 drinks over 10 hours. My safe limit is 2.5 drinks. 3 is sketchy. Tested once.
It was a good night. Srs.
https://open.spotify.com/track/4rsj2ccRChx1mk3W4fADDg
Popular song, but Chill af.
>>37620874
>>If you're stronger you're gaining lean mass.
Does it actually work like this, because how are natties able to get relatively strong but still look like shit then?
>>37620875
I'll up the cals tomorrow then I guess
>>37620762
OP you're a cunt
>Sterons general
How about you use the words "roid" or "fraud" so we can find the fucking thread
Alright faggots long time no see;
Moved and I've been under heavy load at work lately so haven't had time for this shit but some interesting shit has happened lately. Here's the rundown.
>Car was hit in second hit and run within two weeks of the first one by three niggers, chased them back in to their rat hole in the ghetto, beat the shit out of fat muslim nigger driver, cop sided with me and court sentenced him on hit and run, assault (he swung first), stolen vehicle, driving on a suspended license.
>Girlfriend and I finally got dyke roommates to get the fuck out but continue to pay rent, we now live for free in our house for two more months and I can finally walk around naked again.
>girlfriend pissed me the fuck off, added some other women in to the equation to compensate
>First meeting with side chick #1 was me "breaking in" to her apartment (she left a note on the door and door unlocked) at a random time on a random night of my choosing to play out her rape fantasy with her; hit her so hard I knocked a lip piercing backwards into her mouth; and she liked it.
>Side chick #2 decided she was poly, so added side chick #3 in to the equation and literally always have a threesome with these two now. Is p nice.
>Side chick #4 and I shared some beers & saw red hot chili peppers. Was fun.
>Got promotion at work
>cutting blast down early to drop to a short cruise, switching to tren over deca upon blasting again
new protocol will likely be
500mg tren E, 200mg test e, per week for weeks 1-12. Not sure yet if I'll be adding in deca for joint health because I'm also considering adding in 600mg EQ/week, just haven't run EQ before and don't want to deal with the blood pressure issues.
Anyway, what's been going on for the last month-ish? Any news from butthole boy?
>>37621002
it came up for me when i searched for fraud, since it's in the name of the image
get 4chanx i guess if that doens't work?
What are some signs you should chill with the orals? Darker piss obviously
Jaundice too, but that's cutting it way too close
>>37621050
incredible lethargy, frequent urination, increased (unnatural) water retention
or just fucking pay to have your bloodwork done and other health markers can help determine this fairly easily
>>37621050
a cheap bloodtest?
what kind of orals are you running that you're so concerned, sdrol or some shit?
>>37621067
Nah just 200 drol
I plan on running it for a long time though
Last time I got bloods he refused to do liver
>>37621080
lol
>>37621091
Ikr? What a dick
>>37621035
>Red Hot Chili Peppers
mah niggah
>>37620762
You didn't link the old thread or put the word fraud in the title but good effort. Cheers m8.
>>37621104
the other thread died you fucking mongoloid
>>37621104
>>37621113
Didn't come up for me
>>37620942
CNS adaptations
>>37620874
>I'm so sore from 15 sets of squats yesterday.
>225x8 for 15. It's like 4000 lbs more work than my usual 225x10 x10. I'm getting a full back massage tonight. Plus, I'm fighting a cold.
That's pretty fucking intense. You are 900 test right now? You ever try 20 rep squats?
>>37620789
Keep the calories the same I say. Tren is not quite the magic that some make it out to be but there is SOME magic. It's great for what you are doing in my opinion. Kinda eating near your new maintenance calories and gaining muscle and losing fat in great quantity at the same time.
>>37620882
>What vocals tho.
I heard male vocals on the song you linked?
Sounds like a bad ass night. I haven't done mdma in probably eight years now. Maybe I will give it another spin if I can find a qt to party with.
>>37621154
So how can you be sure that's not whats happening to anon
>>37621110
>the other thread died you fucking mongoloid
>>37607484
>>37607484
>>37607484
Learn 2 computers FAGGOT. Come at me BreH!
>>37621222
Sorry, im not very smart. Nice jerrbears though
>>37621172
>night
>badass NIGHT
Man. That was nearly 24 hours
>>37621252
inb4 moar like taco bell
>>37620789
You asked this the other day. Up your carbs.
>>37621050
Lethargy is the most reliable indicator for me.
>>37621316
I'm already at 40% carbs and 40% protein or so. and I asked again because I didn't really get an answer (or I missed it if i did)
>>37621316
I'm already fairly lethargic on drol
Is there any way to differentiate between general oral lethargy and liver stress lethargy?
>>37621370
>>37621385
>I'm already
Kek no copy I sware
>>37621370
Add 50g carbs every time your weight stalls.
>>37621385
Look for other indicators of liver stress then. Reduced appetite usually coinsides with liver induced lethargy for me.
I'd recommend picking up some UDCA regardless. It's very effective. I run between 20-50mg of superdrol alongside 40mg accutane for months on end with no issues apart from occasional lethargy whenever I would forget to dose UDCA.
While you're at it pick up some NAC too. It's very affordable.
>>37621455
Thought UDCA was prescription only, with TUDCA being the OTC/supp equivalent?
>>37620789
The others are wrong. That's fine for calories, but do more time under tension (more reps, more volume, whatever).
>>37621563
>>37621523
Correct.
>need a minimum amount for bank transfer
>just wanted some fucking winny and letro
now i gotta buy an extra item. i dont want to buy 2x winnie cause if i get hairloss side effects thats straight up money wasted.
i have tons of test and tren for the next 3-4 months already.
could get clen but the sides really sucked so I quit it.
i guess i could get some extra t3 even tho i got like 2-3 more months worth ugh.
>>37621584
You got a script for UDCA? Mirin
>>37621612
3-4 months of test/tren ain't that much. I'd grab some test if I had to.
Also bol is always great to have on hand in case you crash estro.
>>37621612
Get some drol or var
Does using DNP while eating my natty maintenance cals make me a bitch? I might go harder in a deficit when I get ephedrine.
>>37621050
GI tract issues
I just injected 100mg test E into my arm with a 5/16" 31g insulin needle
Is this totally retarded? It seemed to work okay
>Search: mossad
>0/0
Killed by mafioso confirmed?
>>37621674
>Does using DNP while eating my natty maintenance cals make me a bitch?
yeah
>>37621737
>Killed by mafioso confirmed?
probably fucking the brains out of his thicc russian jewess
>>37621693
If you mean into the vein yes you are absolutely fucking retarded
You realize you have oil being pumped into your heart right now?
RIP you goddamn moron
>>37621770
No, into my shoulder. I aspirated first, and didn't see blood.
kinda torn what to eat for my last 500 cal of my 1500-cut.
already ate 400 cals of cauliflower cheese and 600cals of pork loin steaks.
can either get 500ml of yogurt and 2 scoops
another serving of cauliflower cheese(best taste worst macros)
or eat some sausages, pork chops or whatever nice cheap meat I find on the reduced section, however it feels unfulfilling without a side dish which i cant afford to have.
>>37621822
>>37621822
To follow up on this, I'm worried because it was only a 5/16" needle.
It couldn't have gotten too deep into the muscle, but I only injected a small amount, a third of a CC
Closer to the skin surface means closer to the bloodstream correct?
>>37621624
No it's from HIVE. Think they are sold out though as it's not on their pricelist.
>>37621674
How much DNP are you running?
>>37621693
You're fine. I love injecting shoulders.
>>37621849
whats with the pussy needle, I use 1.25 on my delts and it goes in fine.
youd hafta be an auschwitz victim to use that
>>37621849
Lol so you pinned delts with a slin pin?
Thats normal and coming af
Worst case the oil goes subcutaneous ie under the skin which is fine, but there's very little fat on shoulders so probably went IM
The way you worded it sounded like you shot up some test
>>37621846
Why so little protein? You a midget?
>>37621908
>not mixing heroin into your test and injecting it iv for double gains
>>37621863
You don't have to pin deep into a muscle, especially with small amounts of oil
>>37621917
you can only fit in so much protein in 1500 calories nigga.
going the meat or yogurt route gives me 150grams.
taking the pussy cauliflower cheese path gives me only lower 100s.
>>37621935
>You can only fit so much
375, you can fit 375g of protein
Ever heard of psmf? You eat 800-1200 cals of protein, 200-300g
Does dbol fuck up caliper testing because of the subq water retention? what amount does it increase it by?
>>37621951
that's not what PSMF is you fucking melon
>>37621951
>>37621959
oh boy
>>37621960
How is it not?
Zero carbs, trace amount of fats and shit tons of protein
I've done it 3x with great results
is there a specific reason i have not shit in almost 48 hours on tren, and cant shit? i think i crashed my estro and i see constipation listed as a side of that.
>>37621987
it's not "shit tons of protein", it's the minimum amount of protein required to maintain lean body mass. whatever you're doing is just fucking stupid, if you want to eat 1200 cals just eat a normal amount of protein (hint: not 200+ grams) and the rest fat so you dont die from kidney failure
>>37622002
>200 grams
>Kidney failure
Kek fucking manlets
>>37621858
500
>>37621997
stick finger up ass and mix it around. this will soften the stool. if it still doesn't come out dig it out.
>>37622144
also more tren should help
>>37622144
Or take a fiber supp...
>>37621997
try eating your vegetables
Anyone got a link to the DNP guide?
>>37622448
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=dnp+pastebin
dead bread
Back on DNP as soon as my order arrives. woo for cold weather.
>>37622954
Do you guys even get cold weather
Coldest it ever gets here even in winter is around 20 degrees celsius daytime
>>37623051
Yeah some of the other aussies said it can get pretty damn cold sometimes
>>37623051
Gets down to -8°c here
Ausfag too
14 degrees celcius is pretty bearable. Anything consistently below 24 is go-time.
I train like 3 years. I read a little but from what I see most popular anabolics require taking test too and crashing bodies production. Is there anything out there that doest mess with test production?
>>37623276
Creatine
The whole point of steroids is to replace your test production with something more powerful
>>37623276
Hgh.
Any androgen will make your body stop producing testosterone. Your body is really good at homeostasis, so when your androgen levels fall again it triggers your body to start producing test again. Estrogen is also involved but theres no real evidence that AAS use affects long term hormone levels. Testicular atrophy will hinder your ability to produce test, but with time (or hcg) they will grow back and become proficient at hormone production.
>>37621960
>>37622002
That is how PSMF works for the natty population. The only reason fraud advocates 1g per lb bw, is because the steroids will ensure minimal muscle loss, but natty lifters don't have that perk.
>>37623297
>>37623309
Cheers, I'm getting up in age and didnt wanna crash test because I dont think it will recover like young person. I guess unavoidable by nature of the drugs. I just though maybe with peptites and newer stuff, there might be way.
>>37623350
Bruh, recovery doesn't have much to do with age. In fact, you're better off using test at a higher age, since you can get dat dere pharma grade test if you ever come off.
>>37623354
>since you can get dat dere pharma grade test if you ever come off.
Well that's quite the baseless claim to make if there ever was one
>>37622954
im on dnp and its 90-100 F this week.
>welp
>>37623366
>Baseless
Everybody knows that you can get prescribed TRT if you have low test, and it's mainly prescribed for older people, as long as you go through the hoops.
>>37623354
I know, I go back and forth on just running test. But the fact that its a 'forever' thing, I try to put it off as long as possible, even though it is very tempting in other ways.
>>37623378
>Everybody knows that you can get prescribed TRT
In what country? What hoops? How low must the test be?
We have no idea how old he is or how low his test levels would be after coming off, nor the country he lives in.
I don't even know what country you're from to assume they WOULD prescripe TRT
>>37623404
murica.
go thru 2 tests a month between generally for test levels
below 300
>>37623518
Different anon with a question on that... How frequent is testing after the treatment begins? Do they just check a before and after, or is it every month or something?
Is there an expiration date on test E?
>>37623795
every month for the first 3 months of therapy to adjust dosage. No, they arent going to overperscribe test for bodybuilding, itll just be to keep levels at a normal level. Usually 500-800.
>eating under 80g carbs a day to keep my face nice and defined
>see my skellington coworkers eat fucking chips and a bottle of coke/full plate of rice/bigass french fries and beans or whatever then finish up with some kitkats
God that really makes my blood boil.
>>37623849
General rule of thumb is to use brewed gear within 2 years as the oil the test is suspended in will eventually go rancid.
>>37621935
Yeah, eating regular food you can only fit like 375g of protein in there.
>mfw cutting on 1500 kcal is now an excuse to eat less protein.
My diet atm?
>3x2 eggs, 1 white + 1 yolk.
>5-700g steak
>300g green veggies
>3 small apples
>100-150g chicken.
And to get fats ill eat some nuts and fry instead of grill my meat.
Guesstimate? 180/80/45.
I could swap out apples and substitute with 250g steak. Thatd make it 230ish brotein.
Total kcal here 1400. Though im getting around 1700
Hey I'm new here what snake poison do I need to inject to get big muscles thanks
>>37623913
Botox straight into the muscle group you want to grow.
Though you will need to supplement vitamin D. +- 40.000IU a day for months or itll just look weird.
(it may seem like a lot. But vitamin D comes in 5000IU caps here.)
>>37623913
all of it
>>37623885
Unless it's MCT
MCT is bae
2 scoop casein powder
1 cup egg whites
150g Kangaroo mince
2x tin tuna or depending on time maybe scoop of beef protein powder
150g kangaroo mince
2 scoop casein powder
Lots of spinach and fibrous greens with the egg white omelettes, try to get as many varied types and as much as you can without getting excess calories.
200g protein, 900 cals or so.
Little bit of carbs and fat are unavoidable. Animal Pak multivitamin and Vitals Mix hit all the electrolyte and RDI requirements. Last time I got a full checkup done I was a little bit low on zinc so I add that as well as magnesium before light workouts. BCAA's intraworkout for more electrolytes when needed, Greens/Reds formula + EAA's post w/o as well with my meal. Bowels are great, energy is pretty nice considering, mood is pretty strong.
Not sure how you guys fuck up PSMF's or even basic cutting so badly.
>>37623859
OK, thanks. I'm not worried about overprescription, but I might actually need TRT, so I'm curious about the process.
>>37624049
>Not sure how you guys fuck up PSMF's or even basic cutting so badly.
It shall forever be a mystery. Got terribly sick for 2 weeks, could barely eat, ????, shreds
Whatsapp group's bane seems to be alcohol
>>37624049
>or even basic cutting so badly
I love to stuff my fat face
>>37624093
That'll do it.
Sickness seems to be good for cutting, strangely enough. The energy demand + sedentary living whilst sick must work.
>>37624093
Just swap to mdma.
Curbs hunger AND no calories!
>>37624132
al curb you, ya junkie cunt
6 more weeks before my goal date.
I really wanted to save my day offs for something worthwhile(aka fridays so I can just party for the next 28 fridays).
But I'm considering taking july 15-30 off and adding clen(or dnp, but probably not) and just going balls to the wall on my cut, also adding 50mg winstrol at that point.
but muh day offs tho, that's 10 fucking days, and if I take another 10 days for WoW-legion then I have almost nothing to use on friday nights!
>>37624144
I havent had drugs in 9 days breh. Just sayin'.
And fuck alcohol.
>>37623913
machine oil into your heart for cardio gains.
vaseline into your face for facial gains.
peanut butter into your arms for 10/10 curlbro look.
done this for years, works great.
thank me later
When people say theyre on 300mg test e and 600mg tren, does this mean that they take this amount each day or spread it out over a week, months?
>>37624266
That's per week most likely.
Also likely spread out over multiple injections.
>>37624300
Can you then just pin it right in the muscle each sunday then?
Sorry for this newfag questions but im tired of lurking without finding answers
>>37624266
Common sense bro, please.
someone posted this in CBT.
He says hes natty and weighs 77kg.
Natty could be possible.
But lmao77 kg?
literally as big as Jeff Seid, but Jeff seid is like 95kg at his heaviest.
>>37624332
ofc i forgot pic
Sup fraud
was doing 600mg/300mg test tren a week with 40mg dbol ed. I dont actually get my gear as my family member makes it, and he pins me and watches over me and all.
He recently switched me up from that to now 750mg test and 900mg of EQ a week with the dbol still, said I'd get superior mass gains and then he'll cut me with tren+anavar or someshit.
Is he correct that EQ would do this compared to Tren A? I was under the impression tren is best.
>>37624327
Visit Reddit steroid wiki, 90% of info you need is there.
>>37624343
>eq
>even near tren
sounds like he's trying to cut corners in terms of budget.
>>37624341
Yeah hes def natty, avoid sterons and you too can achieve this.
MG when he gets challenged.
>>37624465
His tren is homebrewed while his EQ is pharma grade. So for him to buy this instead of make tren, I'm sure budget isnt the issue, but maybe a lack of knowledge on the subject.
>>37624343
the total dosage in the new plan is 2 grams vs the previous total of 1.1 grams
You probably will gain more mass. Not significantly more though.
I'm more just disturbed that someone this inexperienced is taking so much. I would bet the house you get the exact same gains with half the dosage.
>>37624526
pharma grade EQ doesnt exist
>>37624526
Maybe his tren is bunk or something dude?
I can think of no other reason someone would run eq over tren for mass.
>>37624522
fuck. that was some real ghetto shit
>>37624522
what kind of grown up man would let a kid fight with an adult?
>>37624540
>>37624580
Have no idea. The guy himself is a hulking beast, cant even fit through doors. Even though i dont trust his judgment, he is using on me what he uses (except he's also on hgh) so i trust his direction.
>>37624538
So its alright?
>>37624620
lol this dude just sounds like he is maximizing the profit he makes off you
2 grams of gear a week i mean ffs
>>37624647
I get the gear for free. Even the HGH for pct will be free.
The guy is family, he wiped my ass when I was four and he doesn't have to.
His head is in the right direction, I'm just not trusting of his knowledge, but angthing I say is shot down by "JUST LOOK AT ME IM FUCKING HUGE BRO"
>>37624671
HGH for pct?
Maybe he just had an abundance of eq he wanted to get rid of
>>37624671
>Even the HGH for pct
>>37624683
>>37624679
Guys, the topic is if EQ is alright to substitute tren as he's doing to me. I'm just using the HGH statement to show it isn't about the money to him, as he genuinely cares about my growth and treats me like a son.
And yes, hgh for pct.
>>37624711
Most people in fraud have never tried eq.
Eq helped with some joint pains and it also gave me the stamina of a horse. Increased my hunger and I built slow lean mass.
Tren is still the gods nectar nothing beats it for cutting or building mass. Eq and tren make a great combo
>>37624738
Should I ask to go on tren combined? I'd think thats a little too much. 750mg test/900 EQ a week plus 40mg dbol ed sounds like already hefty.
>>37624617
>people
>>37624711
EQ is a fine drug, one of my favorites
But I wouldn't compare it to tren
You'll still make gains but eq is very mild
>>37624757
I wouldn't combine them, gets your bp very high
Also if you're doing pct after the eq keep in mind it's a ridiculously long Ester
>>37624815
Nogs or 1000x the people women will ever be
>>37624840
>Nogs or 1000x the people women will ever be
genuine kek
>>37624757
I did a blast of 400 test e 600 eq 525 tren a. 100mg adrol 20dbol 12 week blast.
Sounds like you want to keep the tren so lower the eq or something to make room for it.
Just took my first orals to start my oncycle. Feels good man.
Daily reminder that JM did gay4pay.
>Daily reminder brought to you by liver failure.
>>37625255
I miss JM
Sup nerds. Ping Ling is smuggling in that good shit as we speak. More info as it becomes available.
>>37625554
pls be in aus
Why is tren everyones favourite ?
Any of you guys run modafinil/armodafinil? I know brick it and was wondering if it's worth it.
>>37625855
Because tren
>>37625836
>pls be in aus
Negative. FL USA.
1000kcal surplus sound good for ostarine?
Tfw qt3.14 has set up sex date for Wednesday. She wants me to dominate her. E.z. Let's go.
She's about to get the tren dickin of a life time
analgirl is coming to my bday
>>37626065
Sounds like getting fat
>>37626137
Just figured if 500 is what a natty would eat, I should eat more. Not eating as much as I can fit through my face like with gear, but more.
>>37626149
Ostarine is almost natty, not sure if you already tried it but it's probably going to disapoint your expectations
>>37626103
Yolo where you been
>>37626184
Natty is 0.5lb lbm/week. I've seen logs that osta is about 1/wk. Sounds like it should benefit from more than a 500 surplus.
>>37626230
where have /you/ been?!
still doing the natty thing?
>>37625855
Dbol is my favorite.
>>37626088
>>37626103
Nice.
>>37626088
Nice. Good luck breh.
>>37626065
ostarine is shit. its only for cutting to retain muscle gains, not for bulking. Use LGD/YK for muscle gains. Or roid.
Tren makes me look nice ;)
>>37620762
Anyone take preworkouts? I usually just drink coffee but I want some sweet vascular pump action now. I think Coach said he takes shit with hydromax in it for dem pump gains.
Broscience or nah
>>37626249
I was busy as fuck with cheer stuff an I didn't come around here often at all. I've just decided to BnC for the rest of my college career unless I decide to PCT after nationals this year.
BTW cheergirl is back with her bf again. God dammit
>>37626280
Joben what up! I use Bodyfortress Super NOS Blast from Walmart as a pump/stimulant and I like it. Super cheap too
>>37626256
Shes a pornstar right?
>>37626280
I usually will do a banana and a rice cake for carbs if I didn't eat recently. 200mg caffeine pill and 50-100mg Viagra + daily cialis + probably 2 gallons of water/day=Veins for days. I sometimes add 10g of l citrulline and 4g of beta alanine.
It's a lot of shit but I like it.
>>37620762
What's a good source for Mk677? I hear sarmsource, and then I hear they are scammers. Then Sarm1, Then I hear they are scammers...
everyone says everyone is a scammer and the reps brag about their companies
>>37626310
>Bodyfortress Super NOS Blast
>Ingredients Crea-ATP Matrix: Creatine Monohydrate, Creatine Hydrochloride. Other Ingredients: Citric Acid, Maltodextrin, Natural and Artificial Flavor, Beet Juice Color, Sucralose.
I looked it up.
It's just creatine and beet juice.
>>37626103
you gonna pee on her?
>>37626310
Been busy as fuck too. I come and shitpost about chicks here and there but since I've just been B&C I don't have anything interesting roid-wise going on.
Last I heard you hurt yourself or some shit?
>>37626257
YK is literally an oral steroid though.
>>37626280
>Anyone take preworkouts?
I only buy pre workouts when they are buy one get one free. As long as there is some caffeine and beta alanine we are good.
>>37626350
No idea.
>>37626355
>What's a good source for Mk677?
I sell MK677. Tested in a lab in the US to verify authenticity. Currently out of stock but will be available later this week.
>>37626432
Yeah, Malena Morgan, only does lesbo scenes. I'm disappointed in myself for knowing that tBh
>>37626432
Great. Will be in contact. Do you have a email I can contact you at? Are you FBI?
>first day at work
>decide to wear the most dyel clothes i could find.
>fuck i look like i don;t even lift in this clothes(black long oversized sleeve shirt)
>nobody will notice my gains and will make stupid jokes about it
>get introduced to everyone
>"wow, is this the new bodyguard". i bet he drinks protein shakes
>manager; wow, he's damn huge
BUT ITS NOT EVEN MY FINAL FORM
>>37626432
Do you do international shipping? Europe Austria
>>37626387
gona try
>>37626503
yaaaay
>>37626544
we're vibing atm
>>37626351
>It's a lot of shit
Sure is.
I was thinking about jumping on the cialis train. I used it for ED when I was having hormona issues a while ago but didn't take it daily, only precoitus, usually Fridays.
Results that noticeable? I know it's good for BP too, yeah?
Hey guys I have a question
What exactly are you trying to gain out of a large physique? Are you competing for something or taking sports? Or are you guys just super insecure?
>>37620762
First time user here
6-8 week cycle (still not sure)
Running 600 mg test e
1.5 letro ed
Gonna run nolva pct after for a month like everyone else
My big question is: its my 3rd week and im beginning to notice some slight ball shrinkage.
I dont have any HCT on hand, will my boys come back in FULL after a small cycle like mine after a few months?
First time poster, sorry if im an idiot
>>37626362
I like it
>>37626396
I tweaked my back pretty good about 2 weeks before my tryouts lol. Rested for a bit and it's fine now
>>37626572
Not sure if Bait or not
>>37626597
Not bait, pls tell me if I fucked up...
>>37626479
I get that shit too, and I'm dyel as fuck.
Normies just have really low standards.
Wait until you go shirtless at a staff picnic. lol
>>37626571
>this is what emasculated youth actually believes
Nobody in the 80s questioned giants, they knelt and sucked their dicks like the weak peasants they are.
Why do we have to be insecure to want to be mutants? Why can't a man just become a giant bear because he wants to be stronk?
>>37626479
>later that day probably
>I bet he's on steroids
>he probably eats chicken and rice
>I bet he can't reach his back
The discrimination is real.
>>37626571
Would you rather be stronger or weaker?
Before you go "I'm fine where I am now", that means you've chosen weaker. n < n+1 for all n. If you want n+1, and you want to optimize your results and can accept the risks of doing so, you might choose steroids.
>>37626479
Any qts?
>>37626479
fucking kek.
now wear some swole clothing
>>37626572
>6-8 week cycle (still not sure)
Stupid. 12 minimum, dude. 6 weeks and you won't even notice anything except small balls.
Oh you already have small balls. Well now you have nothing to look forward to.
And yes,they plump back after cycle
>>37626600
You've got nolva so your balls will be normal after the cycle but for the love of god please do more research before injecting
>>37626571
>What exactly are you trying to gain out of a large physique?
the admiration of others
>>37626572
1,5 letro ed is a fucktone your joints still okay?
I took 0,6 e3d on 1g Test for reference
>>37626632
>And yes,they plump back after cycle
Thanks anon.
Ill extend my cycle to 12 months then
>>37626639
>You've got nolva so your balls will be normal after the cycle but for the love of god please do more research before injecting
Thanks anon, Ill try not to be a hapless retard next time. I had a small window to acquire test as its very illegal where im staying, so I kind of went full tilt into it.
>>37626571
I just want someone to say "You're a big guy", so I can reply "For you".
I've had people say "You're getting pretty big", or "You're looking bigger", but never the 4 words I need. Maybe one day.
>>37626669
This is the best reason in the thread tbqhwyg
>>37626571
Roiding is masculinity gone wild.
Someone has to show the screaming, feminist SJWs what's what.
>>37626658
Ive got some tabs that are 2.5
should I quarter them and go .6 eod maybe?
My nips seem to be really sensitive to gyno if I go e3d
>>37626606
Yeah we don't know about those standard anymore, kek.
yeah, i will do that fosho before skinny fat people.
>>37626613
but i look really dyel in those clothes, can;t believe it. How low are their standards
muscle shaming. the STRUGGLE
>>37626621
fuck yes. A hot russian secretary. But she already has kids and shit
>>37626622
No, i did that with my intern, but that didn't work out. Unwanted stupid attention i don't need
>>37626699
>>37626658
Also, joints are fine. 25 years old though so that might have something to do with it.
My cardio performance is taking a beating though
>>37626609
we don't live in the 80s dude and I am sure you weren't a part of that time period either. Fedoras were cool in the 1920s, does that mean you're going to wear one?
>>37626618
If I am going by your definition of stronger, which seems to be "who can pick up the heaviest things" then I wouldn't mind _not_ being the strongest. While I am not content with where I am at right now, I don't think I would need steroids to get to where I want to be.
>all this n and n+1 bullshit
I get it you took an intro to proofs class, what does that have to do with anything? The maximum isn't always the best thing. Would you want to be 8 feet tall as well?
>>37626649
I like your honesty. I actually do think being really strong is a respectable thing but
>>37626669
idiots that do things like this in hopes that they will encounter a hypothetical situation where they can act like a douchebag is kinda stupid.
>>37626468
advancedbodyscience2000 at gmail
>>37626495
>Europe Austria
Yes but your product will be declared through customs as "vitamin c powder" or something similar.
>>37626479
>"wow, is this the new bodyguard". i bet he drinks protein shakes
>manager; wow, he's damn huge
Kek. There is no clothing known to man that can hide the beast that is MasT
Whats your favorite oral and why?
I'm on 6.5mg/day accutane. Should I buy a new liver now or later?
>>37626723
You should cuck her husband
>>37626695
and to make coach proud
>>37621035
Bruh
Youre a rat
Traffic shit is fine but you cant be having people done for assault and shit
>>37626771
>Whats your favorite oral and why?
sdrol
cuz
its stronk, good bang for your buck, its dry, strong androgen, makes my muscles full
its p toxic tho, and reks my bp
>>37626731
>idiots that do things like this in hopes that they will encounter a hypothetical situation where they can act like a douchebag is kinda stupid.
4 u
Masteron + test is just the best combination. I'am doing the second time now, and fuck.
Even on low carb i still look full and not flat. And them good feels, shit. I wish i could cruise on masteron
>>37626785
Who do you think I'am? A chad? Get a hold of this chad
>>37626852
> I wish i could cruise on masteron
I'am invited to a dinner on work. Can i decline, or will that be too autistic?
>>37626882
Can i trust my health to someone that's called yolo?
You ever used masteron? king of steroids
>>37621737
>>37621761
Not yet.
Jews keep coming onto me though. In all ways. The in-laws are openly discussing the shenanigans you guys consider a 'conspiracy theory' in front of me. Like how they buy property in suburbs of Florida to win the election for Democrats. Stranger Jews have been making conversation and not just small-talk. Just today a guy was telling me about his friend that owns 30 supermarkets, their diabetic daughter, then he proceeded to berate the cashier for forgetting my supplements. Then there's the Jewesses.
I know that anti-semitism is about to get very popular and I've been having doubts about if it's the right path for a year now.
>>37626731
Who said I wanted to "cool"? I was giving you an example of a time when people, correctly, viewed strength and masculinity as positive attributes, not a social crutch.
Don't know why I'm arguing with you anyways, you won't accept any actual reason. Just keep being weak brah I don't care.
Btw, I'm an old fuck and grew up in the 80s and 90s, so yes I am partly from that generation. Giant dudes were my role models, not the skinny femboi twinks your generation is obsessed with.
>>37626771
Winstrol and proviron. DHTs.
I don't use orals for growth because I get GI tract issues with the stronger ones.
>>37626906
>Can i trust my health to someone that's called yolo?
doctor yolo, phd
only prob with a perma mast cruise is estro might go /too/ low, but adding in nolva should fix it, even tho nolva is a serm it still acts as estro in other receptors.
>>37626935
Gimme the skinny on winny pls. Is my liver gonna be THAT fucked? Are sides as shit as people say?
>>37620942
It's More insertions, skeleton and, intramuscular fat to subcutaneous fat ratio than CNS adaptations.
If Jonnie Candito had 4 more inches of leg and thigh length, 2 more of clavicle length, an aesthetic face and decent chest insertions, he would be revered for his aesthetics.
>>37626852
>>37626906
I cruised on mast back when I competed. It's a powerful enough boner-fuel to keep your dick running even with no estro in your system. Awesome stuff. Couldn't do it for more than a few months though, prostate would eventually swell and pissing became a fucking chore, dribbling out like babbys first time peeing.
>>37626771
>favorite oral
>accutane
Shit is the most terrible nightmare known to humankind. Satan's medicine
>>37626940
fucking estro, who need that shit anyway. woman hormone.
Turns man into pussies that listen to lady gaga and justin bieber
>>37626961
>prostate
Exactly i have the same problem with that shit.
I'am gonna run saw palmetto this time. Does that even work?
>>37626992
>fucking estro, who need that shit anyway
it is kinda vital,,,
>>37626771
Wait, you don't want Miranda kerr?
Gay?
>>37627003
tell me about it. Dick works like shit.
who needs a dick, when you don;'t even have a libido
who needs a gf, when you don;t even have a dick
Go away cold I want to take more rons
>>37626906
Gotta go
It's your first week
Mr autism over here baka
>>37627003
nah man slam enough mast into your body and your dick can keep chugging along even without estro.
If I'm at 14% bf and my goal is to recomp on tren, what ratio should I have my macros at and how far above/below maintenance should I go?
>>37627097
ya,
but estro is something your body /needs/ tho
>>37627034
i hate social interaction
JM was right; i just want to roid, train and fuck black transexiuals
But at least i'am getting money and wasting my time
doing whatever it takes, while bringing that 5% mentality
JM COME BACK
>>37626961
If I'm running 500test and tren a week, can I add masteron?
Would I notice the difference?
Or should I just up the tren?
20 yo, 76kg. 17nmol/L serum test, should I pin or what?
>>37626695
>Roiding is masculinity gone wild.
hypermasculinity is dope
>>37626771
Winny - makes you drier than Clinton's snatch
Var - great for tendons and fat loss
Drol - great for everything and fat loss
>>37626906
Mast is prince tren is king
>>37626950
It took 12 weeks of Winny for my liver to get a bit fried
>>37626992
Estro is actually anabolic
>>37626950
Winny was killing my appetite in the beginning. So I took taeian's advice and added taurine and it seems to help a lot.
English isn't his first language + he's dyslexic.
>orals will wreck Appeite because they cause cholestis of liver. Add taurine powder five grams three times a day generally solves it and gets bile flowing again for digestion of protien andfats as bile is body natural laxative aand gets your Appeite going again
>>37627150
>just want to roid, train and fuck black transexiuals
There has never been a truer statement. Jm had it figured out.
We should have listened
>>37626926
I was giving you an example of how something that was acceptable/cool decades ago isn't necessarily acceptable/cool now. I don't know why you're arguing with me either I just asked a simple question and you went full defensive-mode.
>me:"so anons why do you want to be strong?"
>you:"what the fuck dude what's wrong with wanting to be strong it was cool in the 80s why are you being such an asshole are you a weakling or something?"
Usually people that are this dedicated towards something are like that for a reason.
>>37627150
Kek did he actually get featured in a VG vid?
>>37627165
Add the mast. I always hear gains stall while sides increase after 500-600mg tren.
Mast improves my mood on tren. Check out the post on gh15 called "The power of DHT" if you have access.
>>37627150
link the video.
also kek at jm for being such a faggot.
>>37626771
Orals are for plebs. I say skip em so you can still drink. Cheers!
>>37627283
I've been up and down with the tren going from 75 , day, doubling it and then coming back down again.
I only get really bad mood swings if I have more than 500 test a week or my estro gets high.
Related note. Started getting oil coming out of what look like pimples around my nips, is this the tren, and do I need the prami?
>>37627221
Yeah i love mast, would probably love tren also. But that shit kills your brain cells, I can't lose anymore. There will be no more left
Yeah i know, i was sarcastic about that of course. You need even estro to grow. Pretty vital
>>37627231
He was right all along, but we just wouldn't listen.. we just wouldn't listen. Sm.h
we just aren't capable to understand that boss life logic. PLEASE FORGIVE US
>>37627285
>>37627243
Don';t have the link
>>37627322
>consuming the liquid jew
never ever ever ever ever going to make it
>>37627420
>Implying I haven't already made it.
>>37627469
>thinking you've already made it
never going to make it
>>37626245
if you think youre going to gain 1 lb of lbm per week on ostarine only, think again
>>37627285
You're going to fap anyways, might as well get paid for it.
>>37627420
How do i social situations without alcohol?
Fraud bro's. What do you think of this?
https://www.bigdansfitness.com/index.php?route=product%2Fproduct&product_id=131
My buddy is 4 weeks in and hes claiming its great... although he may just be trying to console himself over losing 200$.
>>37627712
I only know of msten and I heard it is good but all the other stuff really seems like a waste of money
>>37627615
>social situations
Why would you want to do something as horrifying in the first place
>>37624341
that frame
How do I get over my fear of UGL's?
The only test I've ever used was 2 Uk UGLs and a fuckton of amps from Gal (what happened to him btw?). I think I'm quite prone to pip, but both those UGL ones were pretty damn bad, whereas Gals was smooth as baby ass.
Now I can't find a pharma source I trust, or that isn't about £4.50/ml, so I might have to go UGL again.
What do?
>>37626571
>>37627874
You need to go through social situations to get friends.
And I've heard, from a reliable source, that friendship is magic.
Is it a good idea to take anavar at 18?
Or should I wait a few years?
>>37627958
London?
>>37627958
In my professionally uneducated opinion var is gold and can be taken at any age.
>>37627958
Do not take an oral only cycle. It's dumb shit for kids who are afraid of needles.
Anavar will still shut you down.
Your dick will die.
You will lose your gains.
Women will laugh at your flaccid penis and unimpressive physique.
Start when you want. You'll stop your growth though.
>>37627958
>var
