You guys don't seriously skip cardio do you? It's a meme right?
>>37569831
I try not to skip it but I just hate doing it. I like to consider my job (construction) my cardio.
Also everything here is a meme
I don't because I love it. But I probably should, I'm way too thin.
>>37569831
Considering I want to live a long life and prevent heart disease, which is in my family history, I do cardio religiously. Key is to switch it up from time to time, dont just run on a treadmill, jump rope, boulder as fast as you can, swim (but not the day before your doing shoulder exercises), kayak, go outside and enjoy your cardio. Literally anything can be turned into cardio
>>37569831
>It's a meme right
What do you think your body is burning for energy when you do cardio? It's literally eating up your gains.
>>37569911
Is it the same person always pratting on about bouldering and kayaking like it's fucking gods work or do you clapistanis actually rate this shit.
Also the same poster is probably the homo that tells everyone to meditate and read meditations by marcus aurelius.
Can you just die already.
Do enough that you have good endurance.
Don't do so much that you're using too much of your energy on it.
>>37569831
Cardio does not kill gains. Started about a month ago and going up in strength every week about 10 pounds for bench and squat. Pull ups are getting easier because I'm weighing less. Also you gain more endurance for typical recreation activities like basketball, soccer, sex is so much easier, and staying out in the sun ain't as bad. I recommend jogging a mile to start off and build up in distance. It does not matter how long it takes but how far you can go. Just ran 3 miles with 2 quick water breaks yesterday. Today worked out abs and ran at incline. Skip Cardio on leg day
>>37569879
do HIIT its not boring
I wanted to do HIIT today but I got some kind of chest congestion thing going on, there's something wet rattling around in my lungs, don't feel right.. post nasal drip or something? Probably should take it light on cardio today, did my squats yesterday and started feeling a little lightheaded.
>>37569879
same breh. 5 days in a high intensity kitchen is more than enough cardio for me. my memebit gives me around 5-6 miles daily
I work as a farmer for 8+ hours a day..if I did cardio too after work, I'd waste away
weight lifting is more than enough for me
Heart health aside, is HIIT really the magic potion people tout it as in regards to impact on body composition? I still do it anyway so I do it anyway, as it allows me not to be so stringent on my diet, but god damn if that Prowler doesn't make me question my life every time.
>>37570414
I was given one of those memebit things but have no interest in it. Still somewhere in my closet, are they accurate?
>>37570422
>if I did cardio too after work, I'd waste away. weight lifting is more than enough for me
exactly how I feel
>>37569831
>It's a meme right?
Yes, and it's one of the most successful memes to ever grace this board
Cardio is essential but it's always fun to see idiots who actually thought you weren't supposed to do it
>>37570422
Farmhands are like construction workers, landscapers, or roofers
So fucking based
>>37570429
>High-intensity aerobic interval training increases fat and carbohydrate metabolic capacities in human skeletal muscle
http://www.ingentaconnect.com/content/nrc/apnm/2008/00000033/00000006/art00010
>Extremely short duration high intensity interval training substantially improves insulin action in young healthy males
http://www.biomedcentral.com/1472-6823/9/3/%20/PREPUB/PREPUB/prepub
>Two weeks of high-intensity aerobic interval training increases the capacity for fat oxidation during exercise in women
http://jap.physiology.org/content/102/4/1439.short
>Metabolic Adaptations to Short-term High-Intensity Interval Training: A Little Pain for a Lot of Gain?
http://journals.lww.com/acsm-essr/Abstract/2008/04000/Metabolic_Adaptations_to_Short_term_High_Intensity.3.aspx
>Aerobic Interval Training Versus Continuous Moderate Exercise as a Treatment for the Metabolic Syndrome
http://circ.ahajournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/118/4/346
>Skeletal muscle buffering capacity and endurance performance after high-intensity interval training by well-trained cyclists
http://www.springerlink.com/content/7gy19c0ku1mw42ny/
>High-Intensity Interval Training: Applications for General Fitness Training
http://journals.lww.com/nsca-scj/Abstract/2009/12000/High_Intensity_Interval_Training__Applications_for.6.aspx
>Evaluation of exercise and training on muscle lipid metabolism
http://ajpendo.physiology.org/content/276/1/E106.short
>Effect of High-Intensity Interval Exercise on Lipid Oxidation during Postexercise Recovery
http://journals.lww.com/acsm-msse/Abstract/2009/02000/Effect_of_High_Intensity_Interval_Exercise_on.15.aspx
>Exercise and improved insulin sensitivity in older women: evidence of the enduring benefits of higher intensity training
http://jap.physiology.org/content/100/1/142.short
>>37569831
Cardio is pretty fun , at dawn or at sunset, watching that good scenery in the urban sprawl that i live in refreshes mind.
>It's a meme right?
Yes, cardio is a big meme.
>b..b...but it's boring!
There's a million ways to make a cardio workout, which can result in fun. There's zero excuses to not incorporate cardio into your workout. It doesn't have to be running (probably the best if you're looking to burn off calories, especially if you do long distance past 12 miles as your body starts using lots of fat as a fuel source--hence why marathoners are skeletons.) It doesn't have to be cycling. Swimming and rowing can be pretty fun.
>>37569886
no, you should eat more.
>>37570718
>do long distance past 12 miles as your body starts using lots of fat as a fuel source
If fat burning is your goal, HIIT is significantly more effective than long steady state cardio sessions.
>>37570742
Very true, but what's the fun in that? It's fun bonking out at mile 18 and feeling your body use fat as the fuel source after running for hours!
>>37570797
>mile 18
>hours
If 18 Miles takes multiple hours, kill urself
>>37569831
If I'm bulking i never do cardio. It is hard enough getting the calories i need to build muscle without burning them needlessly.
>>37569831
I recently started doing cardio after realizing NOT doing it is, in fact, a meme. I'm not trying to have a heart attack in 20 years.
>>37569968
bruh you've been cutting too long. you gettin' cranky like a bitch
>>37570875
it would take a minimum of 2 hours even if you could run a seven minutes mile, but even then that's not how it works. just like how usain bolt can't run a mile in 2 minutes because he does 100m in 9.6 seconds, you can't do 18 miles in two hours because you run a 7 minutes mile. the longer the distance, the slower you will run it.
i like running in the mornings and swimming in the evenings on my off days. keeps me pretty trim.
Cutting lawns and occasional biking are enough for me
I get ravenous after cardio, is this to be expected?
>>37571314
might be eternal bleeding
>>37569879
been wearing my HR monitor at work for the last few weeks. My heart rate never gets above 105... cant really count that as cardio. Sparky here btw up and down ladders all day long.
>>37571013
> not understanding op was being a faggot
>>37571344
That's pretty badass t b h f a m
>>37571344
Terrifying
>>37569831
>>37569831
That's a silly looking bikini
Many guys I know in real life who lift skip their cardio, so I assume people here do as well.
I do plenty of cardio, personally, and I also look much better than my friends who skip it.
>>37571344
Had no idea cardio could be so fucking metal.
>>37569831
>It's a meme right?
It is for human skelly's which make up a lot of this board, so burning more calories in terms of cardio is somewhat counter productive for those wanting to gain weight.
If you balance your diet and exercise cardio can help tremendously in many ways.
Guys don't fall for the meme like i did, lifting seriously for 14 months gave me the change to bang girls but my endurance was shit. DO YOUR CARDIO
>>37573087
I know
>it hurts to look at ;_;
>>37573102
I can confirm, mainly with myself. Usually I do cardio, but sometimes I get lazy and just lift for a couple weeks. I look noticeably better when I do cardio.
I cycle 3 times a week for 20 minutes
Cardio is too time intensive to do when combined with weight lifting if you have a full time job and are not a student or work part time
>>37569831
I don't want to cut yet
>>37573285
>guy at work does high brotein diets
>0 cardio
>horrible shits, terribad farts, skin oily and pimply
Never had this problem as long as I do enough cardio, the moments I get off cardio I notice my skin and shits get noticeably worse
Appropriate thread for this question. How much cardio should i be doing to fight heart disease? I already lift 3+ days a week and play sports when i can but im a recovery alcoholic and want to unfuck my heart and arteries of any previous possible damage.
Arnie says don't skip cardio. It is essential to bodybuilding if you want optimal results. Your muscles will basically tire out since oxygen cannot keep up at the rate you want. Or somethign liek thazt im not a doctr!?
>>37573350
Probably a better question for a doctor who can look at your family history. However, I spend about an hour doing 4-5 miles/4 days a week. I can say I have noticed improved regulations and a near disappearance of palpitations. I still drink on the weekends mind you, but walking seems to make the side effects nearly non existent
>>37569831
Is one cardio day a week enough?
>>37569935
So eat more.
>>37573446
Depends on your goal. If you were going once a week (in terms of running) I'd say at least a 5k is good to keep your heart "well". By all means 3 miles a week however is very lax cardio
who gives a shit about the heart, girls ain't gonna see that muscle.
>>37574931
>not dating cannibal serial killers
>monday : 10 minutes elyptical rower with high resistence to warm up before lifting
>tuesday : kick-boxing
>wednesday : 10 minutes elyptical rower with high resistence to warm up before lifting
>thursday : kick-boxing
>friday : 10 minutes elyptical rower with high resistence to warm up before lifting
>saturday : swimming
I'm sure as fuck not skiping it
>>37569879
Started playing Squash for cardio, it's way more fun than running or cycling.
>>37571013
You would never make it in the USMC
>>37575417
>usmc
>thinking you're tough shit
Pick one
I ride my bike 2x20 minutes to and from work. Is that enough cardio?
>>37575750
Cardio doesn't do shit until you get past 30-40 minutes.
>>37569831
>be biology student
>always thought "cardio kills gains" is a meme
>be studying human physiology cause i want to get a diploma in physiology
>reading about muscles
>book clearly states that cardio kills gains
>explains it on a molecular level that i cba to go into here since most of you won't bother reading it and wouldn't understand probably
it's funny though cause i always thought it was a meme. nevertheless won't stop cardio, since the health benefits are just too big
>>37569831
I don't skip cardio because I don't plan on doing it. When you're able to restrict your calories enough you don't need cardio for weight loss. I don't give 2 shits about cardiovascular endurance and I'm still 21 so I don't really need to do anything to keep my heart healthy aside form keeping a mostly clean diet.
>>37575767
you're an idiot
>>37575750
not unless you're breaking a sweat and keeping a steady heartrate, which i doubt you're doing
>>37575811
>When you're able to restrict your calories enough you don't need cardio for weight loss
you do below 15% bf. kcals burned during cardio are 50% pure fat, and the rest is glycogen. if you eat at a 1000kcal deficit you will lose more musclemass while cutting at low bf% than if you ate at a 500kcal deficit and burned 500kcal during cardio
> I don't give 2 shits about cardiovascular endurance and I'm still 21 so I don't really need to do anything to keep my heart healthy
those are bs excuses. if you don't have the patience for cardio at the prime of your life, you most definitely won't when you're 50
>>37574398
But that's impossible. Just like counting. The moment you go over maintenance, it's all over because nothing can be done
>>37569831
There are plenty of retards on /fit/ who actually believe cardio will kill your gains even though every athlete and coach will tell you it actually improves recovery.
>>37575426
Usmc. You don't need to bother thinking it anymore because you are it
>>37575802
I have a degree in chemistry and a minor in physics. Explain it or reference the book and chapter or I'll just assume you're a memeing faggot.
>>37570348
no.it's excruciatingly hard
>>37570647
>you're boiling eggs while CHAD is jogging at sunrise
>>37575861
BREEEEEEEEEEEEHS!
>>37575802
Bio student here.
Calling bullshit.
I have never done Cardio in my life and have a perfect 120/80 blood pressure with 50 pulse while resting just from good diet and lifting. Cardio is a fucking meme.
>>37575875
A.Vander, J Sherman, D Luciano
Human physiology: the mechanisms of body function 8th edition
chapter 11
>>37576010
then you obviously haven't studied human physiology
>>37569831
Skipped abs and cardio for about two years, have shit posture and absolutely no stamina now, really fucking regret being such an idiot in my early training career.
/fit/ people don't like cardio because they're too vain to worry about strengthening a muscle that doesn't show. sadtruth.jpg
>>37577216
>I'm gonna reference this book chapter on 4chan and expect everyone to either take my word for it or go to a fucking university library and flip to the fucking page and read it, because I am an enormous dumbass who is incapable of articulating anything more intricate than substandard shitposting
the post
>>37577366
are you dense m8? he asked for a book reference, i gave him the book reference. you want me to type out 3 pages of physiology to convince you? google it if you're so fucking curious
What is the consensus on doing low intensity cardio immediately after lifting?
>>37569831
I used to skip it until I started swimming, now I swim for cardio
I just can't walk/run/jog/cycle aimlessly or in circles, I need a destination to end where I fuck around for a while then go back. Walking/running/jogging/cycling without a destination fucking sucks
I don't get this with swimming tho for some reason
>>37577429
Im the bio student from above
Low intensity fot periods over an hour is good for fat loss, but i dont see a reason to prefer it over medium intensity for 40mins or so unless you're extremely obese
>>37569831
Can't run 1000m. I weigh 83kg, 12% bf, 250 bench
>tfw I'd love to do some HIIT but I already have trouble bulking
fml
>>37569831
whats up with the boobtubes swimsuit?
>>37577366
He gave a book reference as directly requested, anon. You sure are salty, anon.
>>37577497
Mid-Europe Mid-20th Century I'm guessing
>not having a gf who lives at a distance to have marathon sex sessions with a few times a week for cardio
i truly feel sorry for you plebs
>>37577480
I just jog or do stairmaster so I guess that is medium and I'm not obese
I was just wondering if doing that immediately after lifting is detrimental
>>37577497
>>37577513
it´s the ukraine, 1942
>>37575989
>tfw ran a 5k at sunrise today
At least cutting has a good side.
>>37577568
I prefer my gf not looking like an Auschwitz survivor
>>37577587
>the ukraine
>the
>>37570875
Well, i guess it's time to kill myself then~
>>37577570
Are you cutting? If yes medium intensity post workout for 40 mins is ideal
Intensity is measured from your heart rate btw, not the machine ur using
>>37577720
Yeah I'm cutting
alright thanks anon
>>37569831
Any more pics?
>>37577110
Gets winded going up stairs
>>37573102
>>37573285
lol for me it's the other way around, sometimes i get lazy and skip a lifting day or two but i never skip my cardio
I go hiking so it's very fun and actually very fun, so that's a plus. I's never be able to do cardio on a treadmill for more than 3 days without wanting to die.
>>37578109
>it's very fun and actually very fun
but the question is... is it very fun?
>>37569911
I mast bait as cardio :^)
he practice of combining resistance training with cardio is scientifically termed as ‘concurrent training.’ While concurrent training has been shown to be superior to endurance training alone for enhancing muscle mass and strength (duh), it has been shown to significantly hamper optimal strength and hypertrophy when compared to resistance training alone. Several studies have demonstrated that optimal gains in muscle mass and strength are obtained by strength training alone compared to combining strength training with endurance training.
>>37577587
why do they look so...healthy?
what has happened to people?
>>37579210
the beaches
people from all over the Soviet Union come down there to swim
also Ukraine was under Nazi occupation by this time
I'm probably a fag, but my qt 3.14 gf teaches a cardio dance class. I go to that regularly. Great cardio and free yoga pants ass staring.
>>37579427
>dance class
Kys
Cardio is for smallfags
I only wish to grow large
>>37579470
Nigga it's cardio and movement. I'm building coordination, memory skills, and all sorts of general body awareness while you're robotting your way through a 5k.
>2016
>still doing robot meme cardio
>not making body awareness gains.
>>37579528
>body awareness
>aka magic bullshit
lol the fuck are you on about m8
>>37579578
It's about knowing how to move with good posture and grace, faglord. Maybe that's why you don't have a qt 3.14 gf you fucking edgequeen faggot bitch,
>>37579636
Not him >>37579470
But what are you on about faglord
>move with grace and posture
What are you, a fucking runway model?
>body awareness
Unless you are an actual athlete required to make some play you don't need "body awareness"
Just admit it, your holy gf cucked you into some faggy dance class. Now she got you doing stupid stuff you are her little bitch. Prepare yourself to get cheated on soon my friend.
>>37579716
Actually, I'm a singer; opera and shit. The faggy dance class works well with my faggy line of employment and my faggy lifestyle in general. But, since I'm the only straight dude in my company, it's a pussy bazaar.
Not to mention that if you don't want to walk like quasimodo-turned-cuck-bitch you need to have some basic fucking coordination. Yoga and dance, nigger, with lifting.
>>37573366
Arnie was also roiding a bit so cardio didnt hinder his progress too much. Are you trying to cardio into a deficit or just stay healthy and make up for the cals later in the day?
>>37579528
>>37579636
i'm the physiology student from above
doing a steady state or controlled interval cardio session at controlled heart rates is x10 more beneficial than some sporadic dance bullshit routine your girlfriend came up with.
>not making body awareness gains
what the fuck are you talking about
>coordination, memory skills
what the fuck are you talking about
admit it, you're just a faggot that got pressured by his girlfriend to attend some gay ass zumba yoga bullshit dance class for chicks. you're too much of a beta to say no because you're most likely insecure and afraid that you'll lose her
grow a fucking pair please, or at least admit you're a faggot and stop defending your faggotry
>>37579789
>Getting this desperate to defend your point that you have to start dropping meme credentials from a degree you haven't even fucking earned yet.
>>37569831
Ever since i've added a day of cardio to my week my squats have been progressing faster. If you're not doing cardio at least once a week you're missing out on some good gains brahs, especially good for growing calves too.
>inb4 cardio kills gains meymey
>thinking cardio kills gains for this long
>wondering why I wont drop below 15% bf even when eating healthy
>telling other people to stop doing steady state cardio
Fuck fit is that really what is needed to get into 10% range? And I wont lose gains?
>>37579789
See
>>37579755
Pretty sure I admitted I'm pretty fuckin faggy; like most of you on this bored. Bisexual master race.
>>37579830
desperate to prove my point? i'm telling you i'm a person that studies physiology, and that your chick's dance class is in no way shape or form on par with MISS or HIIT cardio at controlled heart rates. it's neither my point or my opinion, it's a fact pavarotti
>>37579852
BANE?
>>37579861
i didn't mean faggy in a sexual kind of way. i meant faggy in a "your girlfriend bosses you around and pressures you into doing stupid shit that kills your gains and has no benefits" kind of way
>>37579872
hehe 4uuuu ahaaaaahaha i'm a big BANE guy man mask boy
>>37579876
Damn nigga. Why you gotta hate for no fuckin reason? This shit keeps me lean and doesn't interfere with my lifting. Not everything has to be alpha/beta fuckery, plus it has a direct corrolation/crossover with work related skills. I'm sory fi that doesn't fit with your half-completed-degree-I-deserve-respect-entitlement meme, but I'm gonna keep doing it and as a result
1. Keep my jobs because I'm consistantly lean.
2. Keep swimmin in pussy.
3. Keep enjoying yoga-ass.
Cardio saved my boners so I don't tend to skip it.
>>37579861
>bisexual masterrace
I respect homosexuals, i really do, but you're just the worst. I've seen "bi" guys with gfs before. The gf was sexually frustrated and left them eventually. Now they are full homo. Just admit that you're gay and stop projecting.
>>37579927
dude whatever, i presented you with some scientific facts about why your work-out is sub-par with other types of work-out. i don't care how you rationalize continuing it, neither am i playing into the "alpha-beta" meme. i'm just telling you it's not nearly as efficient as other forms of cardio
and of course i don't "hate" you, for all i know you're the coolest dude in the world. i just hate the way you rationalize your stupid choices
>>37579905
>ironically unironically liking bane posting
>>37574398
Or eat the same and not do cardio
>>37579966
>implying there is anything wrong with doing a more entertaining form of cardio
Not the guy you're bashing but brah, just because you're okay with the mind numbing version of killing your gains doesn't mean everyone else is. Also the guy could probably beat your ass considering how much more coordinated he is than you.
