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A thread for the discussion of the sport of weightlifting and all things related. Keep the insults, bullying, and shitposting to a minimum.
>Doping news
http://www.allthingsgym.com/retests-olympic-doping-samples/
https://www.olympic.org/news/statement-by-the-ioc-executive-board
They're gonna extend the testing. Expect even more people getting caught.
>How to Snatch w/ Klokov
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLGYKQZg-b1FYhl4P8OnCd_C2v2tjOC55X
>How to Clean & Jerk w/ Klokov
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLGYKQZg-b1FaJbNrQrwYXkP0BVDKdTpPy
>Pas notes about the Chinese System
http://chinfl.blogspot.sk/2016/02/notes-from-china.html
>Commisar's notes on the dank, zesty Meme Method (DZMM)
http://pastebin.com/u0jiY8sM
>Everett Basic Novice Program
http://imgur.com/pCKsrOM
http://www.catalystathletics.com/article/131/Starter-Program-for-Catalyst-Athletics-Online-Workouts/
>Takano Example Programs [CIII, CII, CI, CMS]
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1M8AqZyApAyeSx-AoX3drVwpQEAJzVDvAJsE9PKoPwZw/edit?usp=sharing
>Mobility stuff
http://www.catalystathletics.com/video/section/2/Mobility-Flexibility-Training-Prep/
>Useful videos
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCl3WCm2GfvLxvH877oJ1xEA/playlists
>Helpful blogs
yashathoughts.com
chinfl.blogspot.com
>Commisar's notes on the dank, zesty Meme Method (DZMM)
http://pastebin.com/u0jiY8sM
1st for isley Pls go
I'm surprised someone bothered to make a thread, especially a non combined one
>tfw pas superior op was scrapped
>>37553370
>They're gonna extend the testing. Expect even more people getting caught.
>>37553370
Why are they doing this?
>>37553580
it's da rules
>>37553610
They HAVE to retest samples?
>>37553641
idk
>>37553654
I cant wait until we get your sample, gonna test the hell out of that
>>37553684
if i roided with my total i'd be pretty embarrassed
i am taking a strong ped though
pic related, injection sites are my dick and heart
not in that particular order
>>37553752
I'm not implying you roid desu
>>37553842
i dont understand then
>>37553752
?????????? LOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
>>37554366
r u a grill?
>>37555011
Nice love handles
Too bad nobody grabs em
>>37553877
I forgot you're 15 so I wont make that joke.
what do I do when both, cleans and clean pulls, are stalling?
>>37555143
eat more
sleep more
>>37555155
>eat more
im already fucking fat as fuck dude
literally my largest bulk ever
>sleep more
good point
now that uni is over, i'll actually have a chance at this
>>37555143
tren clen
eat hard
>>37555143
You shouldn't be 'stalling' on anything. If you're trying to push the lifts up with linear progression you're doing it wrong.
>>37555385
>If you're trying to push the lifts up with linear progression you're doing it wrong.
I'm hopelessly shit at programming so I don't really know what else to do
commi told me that my qt3.14 blonde French weightlifter frogg is back
Is this true!?!?
23rd for dying sport
>>37555492
yes
>>37555528
YOU CAN'T EVEN GET YOUR POST TIMING RIGHT, HOW YOU GONNA STICK THE CATCH???
>>37555528
>gets 24th instead
weightlifting confirmed for alive and prospering
>>37555555
CHECKED
>>37555445
Idaho weightlifting has a handful of programs on their website. A couple are designed by Zygmunt Smerclecz or however you spell his name. Take a loomkat the 3 day a week program. On your off days do gpp and other active recovery stuff like mobility work.
>>37555555
C H E C K E D
Program killing me this week. Can't hit numbers I'm meant to. Not happy bunny. Coach said it happens and pull the % back, but still I am frustrated. I just want get good.
>>37555566
Why would you ignore the most entertaining poster in /owg/?
>>37555578
>>37555445
https://www.eteamz.com/idahoweightlifting/handouts/
Very first one. I'm running the modified Russian program and have advanced my speed, technique and consistency significantly. Moderate gains in absolute strength as well, without going over 90% for the majority of the program.
>>37555555
greetings from /fraud/
>>37555555
Stole my get nigger, congratulations
>>37555776
Jesus Christ, she's prefect.
>>37555536
Ask her if she will be mine
I'll be on watch2gether in ten mins or so if you're interested
>>37555776
ayy wanna hook us up mang?
Best belt for weightlifting? I want something cheapish. Is the white eleiko belt any good? That tapered style looks comfy. I heard it's a cheap Pakistan product though.
>>37555866
Just get a harbinger velcro. Or if you really wanna go leather, the mdusa.
My school has like a dozen really nice old school leather belts that are perfectly broken in. They're like 30 years old and in perfect condition. Probably gonna steal one desu, as I can't find them anywhere.
>>37555555
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8UY4sD5NlQ
Prime Aramnau would have kept Ilyin in 94
Anyone got the link to the google bin?
Blueshoes moods leaked in plg
What the actual fuck is wrong with this kid
>>37556832
>leaked
he posts them himself lmao
that panty line
her ass
>>37557306
He knees look like theyre about to shear off
>>37557347
ur r gay
>>37555555
nice one, checked
>>37556767
Bump, also any toshiki yamamoto webms?
>>37557306
>adidas singlet
>nike shoes
y tho
guys ive got tennis elbow in my left elbow
what the fuck do i do!!!!
>>37555555
>>37557306
>le jewish qtt
>>37555555
looks like it's a 5 scoop night
weighed in 71.6kg td
ids habbenin
also i got invited to the Ontario summer games for WLing to compete in the 77cat
but im unable to go as i will be in vietnam.
ohwell
/blogpost
F R I E N D S H I P
>>37561146
Btw on the 17th it will be decided wheter russia will participate in the rio olympics
>>37560969
go to thailand instead and buy some of anavar.
Holy shit how do you guys not get elbow and knee tendinitis?
>>37561702
this?
Some guy noticed my back was arching quite a bit coming out of the hole during squats.
I've read about it and apparently it happens when you have good mobility/depth but don't stay tight?
How can I fix this?
>>37560223
Do biceps
>>37561380
Why not just cruise on low dose test?
>>37561046
all the bloody lads
>>37563638
What?
Exactly which paart of back is arching?
>>37564101
Oh sorry didn't make it clear. Low back and upper?
I go pretty deep and my form is good.
One of the lifters at my gym just mentioned that it looked like my back was arched quite a lot coming out of the hole. Maybe it's just the way my back looks.
>>37564202
By arched you mean rounded yes? Because if so then no you don't have good form
>>37564305
Nah I mean hyperextended. Arched.
>>37564491
Why would this happen from not staying tight? If you're hyper extended it is tight, impossible to flop into that position
>>37565196
That literally can't happen in a back squat you moron
>>37565196
>Can't jerk properly
>Calls other people dyels
Shoo shoo blueshoes
Question:
When cleaning, and it's a low weight ,say 80kg, if I manage to pick it up and go from ground to up in one motion, is that fine?
Or should I squat down even when I don't need to?
>>37566424
why are you cleaning such a low weight?
>>37566424
Depends what your objective is. Are you training the power clean or the clean?
google pastebin?
>>37566750
t-there's a difference?
I thought "power" was just there to distinguish from hang, like "squat" and "back squat".
>>37568663
Power cleans are caught above parallel. They develop speed and explosiveness in the extension, and can also be programmed for 'light' work. The full 'squat clean' allows the most weight to be lifted, as it will be caught much lower than the power clean. As the goal in competition is to lift the most weight possible, the squat clean is performed. And as it is the version of the lift performed in competition, it should be the version most practiced in training. This is assuming you are training to be a weightlifter and not to some other end.
>>37568748
Because cleans are fun and muh symmetricstrength.
So are they called "squat cleans" when catching below parallel then?
>>37569189
Or just 'cleans'.
Commi and only commi join this chat
https://www.watch2gether.com/rooms/ipf-er4gn94pd2pmbjxy
>>37568748
Same question to snatch, same answer?
rip weightlifting
http://www.iwf.net/2016/06/15/public-disclosures/
http://www.iwf.net/2016/06/15/public-disclosures/
>>37569384
>>37569388
lol at the cucks who said Ilya was better than Lu
At least Lu gets to keep his olympic medal. Ilya will be stripped of everything
sad lads
OB actually strong and not canadian
he just posts old videos to fuck with you all
>>37569384
>>37569388
oh shit
RIP Ilya dreams
Also 3 BLR lifters caught in 2012... Sounds like Klokov might end up with an olympic gold after all.
zielinski is clean while apti is doped but they lifted the same total
ayy
i bet they didnt even retest polish athletes
>>37569530
>Sounds like Klokov might end up with an olympic gold after all
He should be up there as well. Whatever happened to athletic integrity when they can just put on a fake smile and accept such medal?
>>37569572
>athletic integrity
when did this ever exist you fucking mong? you think people training for olympic gold cares that they cheat lmao
>>37569530
but klokov didnt compete in 2012 olympics?
>>37569585
Ignore trappy moron, he's a retard
>>37569506
At least the Lu dream lives on... right?
RIP Ilya the GOAT
>>37569585
Neither did Aramnau?
>>37569508
It's weird you posted this... do you know him? I know this kid and train with him. He's a good lad.
>>37569582
They should care. Clearly they lack any ethics whatsoever and are just sellouts to their sport, instead of being actual athletes for the sport.
>>37569601
Lu is 32 had to take pity on him. One more Olympics for the old dog
![Ilya+Ilyin+Olympics+Day+8+Weightlifting+EmmQtBs9V4al[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/7iEPocK.jpg "Ilya+Ilyin+Olympics+Day+8+Weightlifting+EmmQtBs9V4al[1].jpg")
What emotion is he trying to convey here? Is it guilt, or gloat?
>>37569651
>Clearly they lack any ethics
YEAH BRO ETHICS PUT FOOD IN YOUR PLATE BRO AND WIN YOU ALL THE OLYMPICS BRO
JUST BE ETHICAL AND SHIT AND EAT VEGAN
this is why powerlifting>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>weightlifting
>>37569659
Lu xiaoun says he will stay in shape until Tokyo 2020 and try as hard as he can to continue
>>37569669
Stop spazzing out, retard, calm your butthurt. They're utter shite athletes, and a failure to their sport. Ilya is literal garbage now, nothing but a disappointment. He had one job, one fucking job, and he couldn't do even that proper.
>>37569681
Yea in powerlifting just join one of the 200 federations that don't test and no one gives a shit about and never get into the Olympics or have any notoriety except for guys on the internet.
>>37569701
If his one job was to not get caught... yea ok he did fail there. Literally any elite weightlifter is at risk for getting "caught".
It's why your first offense is a 2 year ban, WL wouldn't exist as a sport if first offense was a lifetime ban.
>>37569706
Yes because people here, in owg, have a lot of noteriety right
lol
because you guys are olympic caliber champs right
lel
because
because you
you guys dont even compete holy fuck your best "Athlete" here is a 15 year old lmao get the fuck out of here you SMELLY NIGGER
>>37569714
uh yeah it would exist there would just be far less cheaters lol
>>37569714
First offense is not a two year ban dude... It's up to the officials.
Laio Hui received a 4 year ban for his first offense but they reduced to to 2 after petition but if he is caught again it will result in a lifetime ban
He is still at risk for 2008 olympics.
>>37569724
Literal autism
>>37569750
Ive only presented facts
Nice strawman though, I know its hard to debate facts
>>37569734
No, people would put up shit weights and sales/interest/attendence would drop, sponsorships would drop, and WL will exist around the world in an even smaller popular capacity than it does in the USA.
A sport's popularity is driven by its athletes, if you don't have athletes performing insane feats of strength, fitness, and athleticism, people don't care.
>>37569766
>put up shit weights and sales/interest/attendence would drop
No it wouldnt lol, most normies dont know the difference between a 407kg total and a 380kg total, and yes, the olympics is a bunch of normies watching it
so please kys
>A sport's popularity is driven by its athletes
this is the dumbest thing ive read all day
kys
http://astanatimes.com/2016/06/kazakh-world-weightlifting-champion-ilya-ilyin-confident-of-olympic-victory/
Sad as fuck
Rio would've been a good show
>>37569766
>No, people would put up shit weights
If the ceiling is limited by plain genetics, hard work, and one's natural ability, the numbers wouldn't be "shit", they'd be world-records. It's only when the cheaters settle in at full over a period of years that causes the ceiling to rise.
>>37569781
the IWF itself sets a fucking standard WR when they re shuffled the weightclass which is still way above what clean people would hit
so what's your point?
people wouldn't watch a sport where people competing in it can't even break the standards set
>>37569279
Yes.
>>37569786
post yfw Xiaojun bombs
>>37569786
Ilya did this because he knew the end was near. it was the final hurrah. To show all those weak faggots whos boss
It's also why he pursued a phd so he would have a future
>>37569784
>sympathy for a caught cheater
He knew the risk, and he got caught. There's nothing sad about it, just hilarious how someone can go from a world-class athlete to literally nobody all thanks to some retests.
>>37569790
>they'd be world-records
except they won't and you dont know what u talmbout
>>37569795
>the IWF itself sets a fucking standard WR when they re shuffled the weightclass which is still way above what clean people would hit
If it becomes impossible to hit they could lower any day
>people wouldn't watch a sport where people competing in it can't even break the standards set
if no one was ever hitting it they would lower it lol
and even if they didnt, yes people would watch it because its the olympics where theres fucking ping pong as an olympic sport
>>37569806
>>37569786
Fuck, now all I see is the stanozolol on the hold
>>37569761
>Ive only presented facts
Me too. The fact is you have autism.
Because athletes from former USSR countries were the only ones doping that year.
What a fucking joke.
>>37569825
Convincing argument, you illiterate imbecile. Obviously I mean from the get-go, before cheaters set the competitive-minimum years prior
>>37569864
What are you saying? That cherrypicking is wrong, even though it yields results?
It's fucking hilarious
Sedov made an instagram video 3 days ago challenging Ilya Ilyin to 2020 Tokyo as a 94.
It all makes sense now. Sedov isn't crazy. He knew all along Ilya was fucked.
I hope they both keep training and we see the greatest 94s of all time in 2020.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BGf-mCOPKAI/?taken-by=sedov_vladimir
>>37569832
>if no one was ever hitting it they would lower it lol
yyeah they'd say sorry guys that was for doped athletes, these clean athletes suck and dont even come close so we're lowering it so they can feel better about being clean hahaha
you thing ping pong is a fucking joke because you dont actually have experience with it
just like people think weightlifting is easy why couldnt that guy snatch 300kg he makes 200kg look so easy haha fucking faggots competing in the olympics with their weak ass fuck outta here
>people defending roidcheats because "M-MUH WORLD RECORDS"
People watch fucking sports in the olympic games regardless if records are broken or not, stop this shitty meme.
If roidcheats didn't break world records then this wouldn't even be an issue in the first place.
>>37569887
Implying he'll be unbanned before 2020's qualifying events
>>37569900
People actually pay to watch equestrian dancing
>>37569900
>If roidcheats didn't break world records then this wouldn't even be an issue in the first place.
yeah lets go back in time before roids were invented and kill everyone who even thinks of doing such thing
>>37569900
Every athlete is on PEDs at the international level. Every. One. All this dope-hunting does is incentivize the pursuit of subtler drugs and cycling techniques, placing comparative disadvantages on those countries that, for whatever reason, can't keep up. It's s farce.
>>37569947
Every top 5 maybe. There's plenty of b group lifters who aren't on gear at the Olympics.
>>37569966
>group B mattering
>ever
>>37569900
Ilya, Apti and others being banned has clearly a political background (EU vs. Russia, etc.)
>>37569995
>Ukraine
>bulgaria
>kazakhistan
>azerbaijan
Sure thing tin foil man
>>37569947
Good. They need to continue cracking down, not leave room for comfort like these recent bans. I mean, stanozolol, really?- they literally got lazy. It's one thing to cheat, but another to not even bother worrying about the consequences. And your stating of supposed facts doesn't make them right or ethical. The real farce is competing in a drug tested sport, and touting oneself as natural, until you're not; to lie one's entire athletic career - how can anyone trust them as a person?
>>37570019
The doping rules, which are arbitrary and often politically motivated, necessitate lying, if only by omission, about ones practices. The options presented to alerts at this level are: dope, try not to get caught, and have a chance at winning against all the other doping athletes; or lose. When your whole career, income, social status, life, depends on you medaling, what kind of choice is that?
>>37569980
>He doesn't remember medals being won from b group
You new?
>>37570018
So you're saying it's not? All of those countries are Eastern bloc, Yurop etc.
>>37569846
behind my tears that actually made me laugh
hookgrip guy on reddit says that Liao Hui isn't the one popped for 2008 games
CHINA #1 LOLOL
>>37569508
is this guy british?
what class?
ill have those lifts one day
>>37570366
Wasn't him popped around that time though?
>>37570451
2010
>>37569593
>he
Is there any news yet about who will be out for 2016?
>>37571221
>>37571221
>>37571221
>>37571221
>>37571221
>>37569388
and /owg/ doubted me when my inside KAZ source told me Ilya was banned for dbol last week.
So no google bin? Also why is owg slow, this is scary.
miss me yet?
>>37571051
More or less all of Russia and pan Slavic "countries"
>>37572156
>can't go to Olympics
>immediately becomes a nobody
fuck
>>37572203
Lu didn't get popped.
Ilya and apti did though
Isn't it that if you get popped for one of the Olympic games you will be banned from the olympics for life? If so maybe after 2 or 4 years everyone (provided no second positive from Beijing) can lift in WWC but not in Tokyo or beyond.
>>37572334
Need to be popped twice for a lifetime ban from the IWF, dunno about the olympics specifically
Every single one of them are on PEDs. This is such bullshit
>>37572001
stanozolol is not dbol. It's winny
>>37569388
>>37569384
no wonder apti was peddling his seminar in august a couple of days ago. i was confused as to why he had a seminar so close to rio. sweet dreams chechen prince.
So why do a lot of people consider it to be more reasonable to just let people continue taking PEDs with potentially dangerous long term health effects just so they can compete at the highest level? Doesn't seem like that makes more sense than just trying to make sure everybody plays it fairly
>>37573100
the thing about the PEDs issue is that the drug manufacturers are always ahead of the testing organizations. countries and organizations with enough resources will always have the upper hand.
the issue about the potential health effects from using PEDs is tricky since there isn't many study about it. we know that david rigert used it, but the old guy still seems healthy.
my personal opinion is that a study must be conducted so that we can better understand the benefits and risks of using specific drugs. the study can also be used for reevaluating the legality of certain drugs that are found to have acceptable risks. this should even the playing field.
it's like food. we know that certain foods or eating too much food is dangerous but we don't ban it.
>>37573077
kek
>>37573205
>but the old guy still seems healthy.
dimas apparently front squat 290kg at 92bw and he's still healthy
source was his interview on usa olympic trials this year
>>37555555
Still mirin
>>37573453
whaaaaaaaaaaa, no wayy
>>37573205
this
>>37569508
>>37569508
thought that was OB for a sec.
>>37573759
>OB snatching 100
I can't either so
>>37573855
one day cal
>>37573855
One day you may
so how important is grunting, shouting or making any form of sound to making a lift for you guys?
i used to lift without making any noise, but ever since i actively tried to grunt during the third pull, i've been making lifts more consistently. i think the sound i make works great as a cue to help my timing between extension and pulling under.
>>37569651
It's not cheating when everyone at the international level is juiced to the gills.
Does anybody have that gif from Klokov's "this for sex, this for snatch" demo?
>>37570155
Bulgaria is in the EU though.
>>37573077
Fucking KEK
>>37573077
Best post ITT
>>37574080
Look at this drug dealing degenerate fuck
He should go to jail
Why are party pills illegal though?
>people will defend this is natty
>>37576392
Maybe some crossfitter will but normal lifters wont :^)
>>37573925
It's good
Just don't be obnoxious about it
>>37576944
of course not. it's the sound you make when your trying to take a dump while constipated.
>>37577336
My coach from china and pents coach from korea both say you should make a lot of noise while lifting to create a good training environment
Grunting is also good for brace timing too
>>37573453
yeah, but dimas is still young. some heavies from the 80s are still up and kicking which is surprising since larger people tend to have shorter lifespan in general.
naim is also a good example, although the midget got very fat after retiring. according to abadjiev, he was taking 30 pills a day.
off topic but related to PEDs, plenty of NBA players from the 80s and 90s are dying at the age of 40s and 50s. the common culprit is heart attack. i wonder if it this has to do with PEDs.
>>37577385
>NBA players
No, it's just that lankets die of heart attacks all the time.
>>37577370
so crossfit/calstremf and such gyms are good environment
better then urs?
>>37577760
Ye
Training alone isn't really ideal
You want a team that'll keep you motivated and competitive
>>37577370
I lose tightness in catch of clean sometimes, could grunting srs help? Also working on my weaker upper back lol
Have found grunting out the bottom of squats and cleans makes me stand faster
>>37577385
Tall dudes who did a shit load of blow
Had a comp today. Snatch was bullshit(it always is) but c&j went well. Here is my 120kg to mire/mock
>>37579660
Jyväskylä?
>>37579902
yes/kyllä
When do you flex your glutes in the push press? If I flex before bending my knees, my butt tucks under me a bit. Is that okay?
>>37581135
????
>>37573077
top kek m8
/wlg/ utterly destroyed
commi someone is spreading hate about you in
https://www.watch2gether.com/rooms/ipf-er4gn94pd2pmbjxy
>>37576392
>those tiny calves
lol never skip leg day boys
