arched bench is not a real bench
I've seen too many faggots on here who do only arched bench
You're cheating yourselves , arched bench is much easier than normal bench, power lifting comps shouldn't even allow it.
arched bench favors manlet betas with manlet leverages putting them at an advantage over more properly sized individuals. If no arching was required, almost all of the top powerlifter manlet fucks would be left behind in the dust since they aren't allowed to cheat anymore.
are you a 50 years old dad who has barely hit 1pl8 after 20 years old lifting?
>>37502464
Arching puts your shoulders in the right position tho
>>37502464
Stay mad anon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYWNVnfAKtY
>>37502464
>arched bench
>sumo deadlifts
>>37502523
>>37502472
Nice try fuckface.
YEA THIS ISNT CHEATING AT ALL FUCKING KEK
get out of here with your bullshit you fucking cheating cucks
>>37502464
I never grew my chest until i benched with a slight arch.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rBX0CY-h9hs
If it is too "easy" add more weight to make it hard again..... Literal non issue
T.former chestlet
P.S. Floor press is even better for chest growth than bench
>>37502464
kek
>>37502464
can that even be called a set? this seems like a pathetic and dangerous way to seem like your stronger than you actually are.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enRx1X7dQRI
I know this thread is a meme but here
>>37502580
>not being raised by the tv
>never going to make it
>>37502464
This sort of ridiculous shit is why bench press should be replaced by a standing press from a rack as a competition lift.
>>37502464
>Average powerlifter
>>37502464
o shit
>>37502580
Sauce on that thumbnail?
>>37502542
lmao fatfuck literally achieved a 1 cm rom
>>37502829
have fun judging that shit
>>37502570
welcome to ipf meme lifting lol
>>37502931
>head down
>butt down
>heels down
>paused
implying that wouldn't count in a lolfed
>>37502580
I really really hate this image
>>37503069
Have it friend! It's yours!
>>37503093
don't give people permission to save my images ever again you shit
>>37502918
SHE'S TWO MINUTES INTO THE VIDEO YOU LAZY KEK
>>37502464
wtf is this bullshit? yes it's 3 plats but he lifted it for like a fucking 2 inches?
Taking the bait
So this is the guy that complains about sumo too?
What about low bar squats? Are those cheating too?
>>37504167
No.
Yes.
Yes.
>>37504175
So basically powerlifting is cheating?
Do you outlift anyone in plg benching flat back? High bar? Conventional? Because you probably don't
>>37504184
Powerlifting is inherently fucked because it has been a sport for so long and has allowed sumo/arched/lowbar for so long that simply banning the above stated cheats would completely rock the boat in terms of who is top dog.
I say just abandon ship and move to strongman
>>37504197
100% agreed senpai
>>37504197
Strongman allows for hitched deadlifts, just like crossfit
I'm waiting for you to say something intelligent. I'll stop holding my breath. You're just a no lift anon that complains just for the sake of complaining
>>37504197
Strongman? STRONG MAN?? Ahahahahaha fucking autist, go push a rock over a wall or pull on some rope. Jesus Christ
>>37504236
O wow anon u sure got me
>>37504208
>admitted to roiding
>thinks he has any say on whats fair in the powerliting world
>>37504241
Thanks senpai <3
>>37502464
Did a manlet fuck your oneitis ? Anyway people with leverages for binch and squat usually have shit deadlift leverages.
I have nothing against powerlifting, I think it's a cool sport, but how are fitizens really defending a 1 cm ROM? I laughed when I saw the OP gif.
>>37502464
and the ugly people losers is still going to lie and say dont cock block while try to hurt the awesome people and the attractive loser people and the ugly people losers is still everywhere and lie about being ugly and hurt people while being ugly like the ugly guy losers and beyonce
>Everyone stops arching in competitions
>Manlets have to move the bar further
>So do lanklets
>Everyone lifts less but the rankings stay the same
What exactly are you trying to accomplish?
>>37502829
OHP was a judged lift but they cheated even harder on that, which is why it was replaced by bench press.
>dyels thinking anyone cares about their dyel opinions
>>37504365
>weak powerlifters thinking anyone cares about their shitty "sport"
>>37504245
>hitched deadlifts are fine but sumo isn't
top tier autism
>>37504730
Strongman used to allow sumo as well. They only really dropped it when they started using deadlift variants that would have been basically impossible to judge with sumo.
>>37502464
Is this the new meme of the month?
>>37504197
>complains about "cheating" on form
>advocates strongman
>>37502580
>>37503069
I never thought I'd actually have use for this shit.
This is why i don't believe powerlifting has too much of a future.
All that equipment (even in "raw"), sumo deads, ridiculous arches in bench...
It doesnt make it relatable for normies, they just see a fat man doing as much as he can to move the bar as little as he can.
Instead of 300kg bench press where the ROM is 2cm make it a full bench with 200 and you'll see people actually believing you are strong.
>>37504769
Never seen anything as stupid as in OP's post in strongman.
>>37504782
What do you propose instead? Strongman, wherein they use even more equipment, cheat on ROM even more and do a ton of steroids to the point where it's impossible to enter ever unless you're 6'4, 315 pounds minimum and have access to an entire pharmacy?
Or do you suggest weightlifting, wherein they in fact allow exactly the same amount of equipment as classic powerlifting, where the crux of the sport actually is to shorten ROM and you still have loads of acceptable deviations in form (do you split jerk? squat jerk? power jerk?), nevermind the fact that to be one of the best, you pretty much have to be hand-selected by a communist government and receive copious amounts of world class coaching and roids from the age of 12 at LATEST.
Also, the IPF is growing enormously, maybe not so much in America, but elsewhere it is gaining hundreds of new athletes every year.
>>37504820
What about make rules that arent a joke?
No fucking ridiculous arches, only conventional deads, no knee sleeves, no wrist wraps.
IPF is stupidly obsessed with depth on the squat and making the bench almost a paused bench, why not make benches faster and remove the arches?
>>37502580
>4chan taught me to be autistic
>>37504777
>we
>us
>our
>>37504843
You have any way of wording a rule that would remove the big arches and actually be enforceable without fucking everyones shoulders by forcing a flat back?
Enjoy your shoulder impingement, OP.
>>37504843
>no knee sleeves, no wrist wraps.
Why not? These are just comfort things and don't add poundage (when proper sized, which there are in fact rules to ensure) and you really can't come here and want for "more accurate" tests of strength and then advocate squatting above parallel and bounce-benching, get out of here.
>>37504789
You haven't been paying attention. That's the name of the game in strongman - the weight goes up by whatever means necessary.
Strongman is also the sport that - despite barely having any rules - had to specifically add in a rule saying you couldn't rest the log or axle on your head during a lift. Because, yes, people were trying just that for the advantage.
>>37504856
If a plane can go trough the arch it shouldnt be acceptable. The arch needed to avoid injuries is minimal compared to the ones you defend.
If the IPF has made rules for litterally anything else for every single lift i am sure they'll manage to figure out a way to fix it.
Somehow pic related is cheating but the first webm isnt. Top kek.
>>37502464
>arched bench
Just do decline seriously less bad for your back
>>37504891
The pic you're using was never cheating. What got the press removed from competition wasn't the back bend (which had been in more or less constant use since the 20s) but the development of a double-bend technique that, while legal, made it almost impossible to tell the difference between a legal oly press and an illegal push press.
>>37504870
>Don't add poundage
tip top kek
I like that the IPF is obsessed with depth, i dont like that they make the bench paused because they cant get good enough judges to make it go up when its "motionless" instead of a couple of seconds later.
I find it stupid that they make this so important when they allow other shit (like arches) at the same time
>>37504903
What on earth is a double-bend technique? I cannot for the life of me imagine someone bending their back twice
>>37504912
They don't really add poundage though. I can squat the same with and without sleeves, I just wear sleeves when training mainly, because it helps keep your knee lubricated.
>>37502464
Enjoy your fucked up shoulder joints, fag.
>>37504952
Ive never seen anyone take less than 15 mins to get a pair of knee sleeves on, sure they arent tight as shit or anything.
If they dont add poundage just remove them.
>>37504986
Why though? It's an easy way to prevent injury without actually changing the mechanics and making your stronger.
And people actually were buying crazy tight sleeves, so tight that you needed like 3 people to get them on, but that's illegal now.
>>37502464
If that was true then the bench wr holder would be a tiny manlet. He's not.
>>37504937
You bend back in the start position, straighten up rapidly to get the bar started and then lean back again for better leverage as you press out the rest of the lift. It looks kind of similar to a push press without knee bend and was close enough to it to let people sneak push presses past the judges.
Here's a classic example:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nJrYPVJ88M
>>37504706
No we don't. Except obviously you care because you bothered to get mad about it.
That posture and that ridiculously small motion range is fucking ridiculous.
>>37504895
Arching isn't bad for your back though.
>>37505128
And an example of the push press bit, the very next lift in that competition:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7erVblY7aiU
>>37504895
There are only compression forces on your spine when arching, since your spine is made to handle those its not bad at all.
I agree OP. Powerlifting should find a way of limiting excessive meme arching, or enforce a minimum for ROM
>>37504854
Elegant in its simplicity.
>>37502464
Nobody does Arched back benches in their routines though. They are shit for training, but they let you lift more if you're doing some competitions.
>>37505325
Most high-arch benchers do train that way. Not all the time, because of the issues with trying to do a lot of volume with that form, but a significant amount of training goes into the form. Displaying strength is, itself, a skill that needs to be honed.
>>37505251
Write me a rule that would accomplish this. No yard-sticks or laser measuring tools allowed.
My jaw dropped what the actual fuck?
Mr. Jeff Cavaliere explained that a little arching helps your back be stable on the bench and puts your pecs into better position to hit them while doing bench presses.
I believe mr. Athlean x, he's science guy of fitness.
>>37505509
Why no measuring tools?
>>37506086
Because they're basically impossible to use in an actual real-life setting. You're not going to have some poor bastard hold anywhere up to 600lbs at lockout for thirty seconds while people fumble around with getting the tape in position.
You can't use laser measuring that well because the side spotters are going to be in the way most of the time.
>>37502464
Fuck off Rasputin this isn't the same as sumo squat!
>>37502551
Having a slight arch is good form. It saves your shoulders and puts the weight in your chest.
OP is a retard.
>>37502542
ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME?
POWERFATS KEK
>>37504777
>2007+9
>still wrecklessly putting your data online
>not wrecking shit when you put your info online
Shiggy
>>37502464
you should try reaching 1plate before giving your opinion, pathetic fuck
I can't really arch my back, I bench about 2pl8, but feel like I should bench higher... I also have a fuck long wingspan
How the fuck do you actually arch your back?
>>37502464
>muh betas lel muh muh top manlet im mad
l i t e r a l l y what you just said
>>37508236
You start by placing your feet wide on the ground - you want a stable connection to the ground. Your neck should be under the bar, your butt should be on the bench.
Next you grab the bar and, without moving your ass, slide your shoulder blades down, untill your eyes are under the bar.
Adjust your grip on the bar, tighten your back, as if trying to grab your spine with your shoulder blades.
Your triceps should touch your lats on the descent.
>>37508236
Work towards higher weights when arching, but no maxes to avoid injuries. You just need to get that right spot for you, there is no recipe. If you look at powerlifting, everyone has a bit different foot placement, preparation etc.
For me it took quite a long time and I thought it just wasn't suited for me. Right now I do it like this - I roll back on the bench untill my head is fully behind the edge, and the edge of the bench is around lower neck. I place my legs with knees bent at 90 degrees angle freely on the floor, not too wide, no too close. Then, without moving the legs, I push myself back onto a proper position using the bar, as far as you can go. Note - I don't keep my heels on the ground. Some federations require that, but I don't compete so whatever. I always get terrible cramps in my quads when I try to keep heels on the ground.
You just need to find that one spot where your whole body is EVENLY (important) tight as fuck, ass on the bench for stability, scapulas together, and go.
>>37502540
This desu. I only see faggots do these at my gym
>>37508890
WUZ
>>37509004
ANONYMOUS!
>>37509004
MEMES
>>37502464
Completely agree.
Im at 115 kg for reps with no need for a fucking arch. That is faggotry to hit bigger numbers with no respect to actually gaining strength.
Good thread op
