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>No pain, no gain is a myth. At not point during your workout should you experience any pain or discomfort.
Discomfort and pain are two different things. Discomfort is a natural part of lifting heavy things over and over, and that's good if you're working out. Pain in a certain muscle or joint means that something is wrong with it and you should tend to it, not put it under more stress.
>>37495999
This. And if you need additional proof, note the trips.
>>37495999
>he feels discomfort while picking up heavy things and putting them back
Bad news: You aren't made for lifting.
It's well known that god tier lifters feel pure pleasure while working out. I can confirm it too. In fact it's extremely comfortable to feel the weight and pushing against it.
You should find a different hobby.
Or another way to put it, dyels think DOMS is "pain".
>>37495999
>>37496024
Found the dyels.
>you need to eat 250g of protein per day
>you only need squats and deadlifts for your abs
>ab muscles cant grow theyre made in the kitchen
>looking aesthetic is gay you should go for bearmode
>>37495968
>You need an Olympic coach to learn how to properly do power cleans.
>>37495968
>3 Sets of 10
>If it hurts, then it's too much weight
>Don't overdo it
>Lift to be healthy
>I'm not trying to get too big
>The difference between strength and power.......
>>37496043
dyel detected
>>37495968
>You only need 0.8g/lb protein
>>37496026
>trying this hard to /fit/ in
>>37496039
Doms can be painful as fuck
>stairs after first leg day
>>37496088
This is true though you fucking retard. Look up the science.
>>37496088
>Metabolism can only process X amount of protein per Y minutes.
>>37496081
I do 3 sets of 10 on some accessory exercises. What's wrong with that?
>>37496104
Why? If u can do more reps than do them. If you can add more weight do that. Why aim for a number with a limiter on it.
>eat 1g/lb protein
>>37496089
gee sorry maurice, but you can't blame the messenger for your pussy ass genes
yeah not in your joints and organs. muscle pain is fine
>im an ectomorph :^)
>>37496111
Depends on your goals, and also: assistance lifts. Assistance.
>>37496099
squats?
>>37496127
>I'm a mesomorph
>>37495968
>muh leg day doms xDDD
>it's bad for your knees/back etc.
> I don't want to look like some roid raging gym rat so i'm not going to do squats and deadlifts
>I just want to be toned so i'll do low weight and high reps
>>37496047
this is the epitome of /fit/ permabulkers' delusions
>>37496169
>I could bench 2 plates once, but then I squatted too deep and fucked up my knees (because I just wouldn't listen)
You will fit right in with all the other losers once you turn 30
>>37496043
Yeah, it's you. Literally any athlete of any sport knows the difference between being in pain and being sore. You should be sore, you should not be in pain
>>37496081
>3 Sets of 10
What is hypertrophy
>2g/kg protein is too much
>>37496266
>being this retarded
>>37496251
>pain
>being sore
lel if you had the right genes you wouldn't even know what that is
Some people just aren't meant for lifting.
>>37496043
>"if an exercise is painful, you're not it right"
>"LOL DYELS GTFO"
I love you /fit/, but fucking hell, do something about the ego lifters.
>>37496081
>3 Sets of 10
Is a good recommendation for accessory lifts.
Some of the things you guys are quoting are literally in the sticky.
>>37496338
>the sticky is 100% absolute truth
thats another thing DYELs say btw
>>37495968
>read the sticky
>>37496377
Well, nobody is saying that, but everyone around here parrots >>37496383
at every turn. Wouldn't that make all of /fit/ DYELs?
>>37496251
Kek fuck off summerdyel. You have to go back.
>>37496394
the sticky has okay advice for a complete noob, thats all
>>37496099
2013 was a great year.
>>37496099
She gets happier and happier
>>37495968
>be sure to retract your meme-ula when benching, wouldn't want to get strong shoulders or anything!
>>37496092
Found the DYEL
>don't round your back when deadlifting
>>37496549
>>37495968
I bet you're one of those "push it to the limit" faggots who thinks "strength equals mass" and goes to failure on every set. Suck a dick fag
>Why yes I do wear compression tights to the gym.
>>37495968
>>37496081
>>37496125
You should never feel pain when lifting, unless you are competing for a medal or something. Discomfort and pain are different.
>>37496088
Correct. Pic related.
>>37496099
IIRC this is true as well.
>>37496269
Flat-out unnecessary.
>>37496089
What you did there
> I seent it...
>>37496677
Well, shit. Not only did I forget to attach it I can't find it either. But still, 0.8g/lb is enough.
>>37496409
Have fun injuring yourself. That or you're not comprehending what I said
>>37496099
She should have stopped by 2014, or somewhere between 13 and 14. 2015 kinda looks...disproportionate, and not in a good way.
>>37495968
This is true.
I can press 1pl8 for reps, and push press lmao2pl8
Let me assure you
No pain no gain is 100% a myth.
Lifting should not hurt at all, even a little. Unless you have a very loose definition of "pain"
See
>>37496039
If something hurts or is discomfortabke, STOP because your form is probably fucked.
>>37496409
>>37496311
You show poor form. That anon said nothing wrong. If you dispute this, you should lurk more
>>37496760
Yeah I've been here for over a year now. Also not an argument.
>>37496760
The only summerfag here is you.
Post pics of these gains you made with all this pain
>>37496778
>post pic
Fucking this.
I suspect OP is the biggest DYEL in the thread
>>37496730
sorry son youre gay
>>37496130
His point was that you shouldn't stop at 10 reps if you can push out more. Stopping before your muscles are pushed only helps goals related to injury rehab.
>>37496818
3x10 means three sets of your 10rm
Not just magically stop at the number 10
If you get too many reps, that is fine, you just didnt use enough weight.
If you get less reps, that is fine too.
But the aim is a 10rm
>>37496804
Yeah I'm totally in DYEL mode. Summerfags leave
>>37496564
it's not bad if the upper back is rounded, which can easily happen on heavy weight. however, the lower back should never be rounded
>>37496862
>Well memed, good sir
>tips
>>37496862
>still hasn't posted a pic
>i-i'm not dyel i s-swear!
>>37496862
Proof positive you are dyel.
If you looked like you lifted, you could easily post yourself.
OP is confirmed for the biggest DYEL In the thread.
I bet this fagnigger can't even bench 2pl8
>>37496883
Almost right.
A rounded back is fine, so long is it stays rounded.
Extending your spine from a rounded position is where snap city comes into play.
Not rounding your back is top tier noob advice. Mit is when these noobs try to advise the guy deadlifting 5pl8 that these dreams become memes
>>37496778
>>37496804
>>37496921
Probably not a good idea to share my pic (financial industry).
>>37496944
You're a fuckin faggot dude
>>37496836
If its your 10rpm, you're not going to be able to do it for three sets.
It should have a certain percentage of your one-rep max associated with it to determine intensity.
>>37496944
Blurr your face, or edit it out.
Nobody is going to recognize you from a six pack and nipples.
And even if they did, so what?
Are financiers not allowed to lift or shitpost on 4chan??
Flimsy as fuck excuse/10
>>37496956
If you cant do your 10rm for 3 sets, you are not resting long enough between sets.
Endof.
>>37496956
>10rpm
How do you lift with revolutions per minute??
RM = rep max
>>37496099
Im a guy and want an ass like that.
Goal ass
I ruined my hip because of the no pain no gain. 8 years later ill admit that i will torture the person who first said that or any one that refers to a dead lift as a "pull". I will fucking torture them and make them watch themselves be tortured.
>>37496956
>certain percentage of your one-rep max
like around 74% of your 1rm?
We call that a 10rm
>>37495968
>haha my legs are so sore today i can barely walk up the stairs
>>37496978
Hip thrusts are your friend.
I can thrust more than i deadlift.
Feels good, mang.
>>37496228
what exactly are you suggesting? that deep squats are less safe than above parallel?
>>37496990
How much you pull bro?
>>37496311
are you a non-native english speaker or are you just a retard?
>>37497025
That is a common normie myth..
People have come up to me and told me not to squat so deep.
100% are either old fatfucks who think they are wise and know all the tricks to avoiding injury, as they flare their elbows out on smith machine bench presses. Or are scrawny dyels who have lifted like a month
>>37497051
>Do You Even Lift?
my max squat is 325, and I've torn my meniscus and MCL playing college football, and had to get surgery on both, so my legs are lacking. I know girls mire most places I go, I've litterally been at a party just talking to my friends and girls just comes up and pulls me to the side a starts making out with me. This has happened twice, I fucked both of them probably only saying 20 words to them. A girl literally pulled over once and asked me if I needed a ride. I said "yea" hopped in, and after about 5 mins of talking she asked me if I wanted to come over to her place, and I ended up fucking her. Trust me, girls mire everywhere I go. So yeah, I guess you could say I lift.
>>37497071
Is this copypasta, or fresh autism?
>>37496090
> respect the doms.
But they only really seem to happen the first month of getting back into lifting. After the muscles get reconditioned, than it just regular post workout soreness
>>37497081
he seems to be defending his internet honor, but i most certainly will not read.
>>37497071
Patrick, your autism is showing
>>37496279
Not same poster but you are literally
>are you kidding me?????!!!!!
>I have to PROVE my argument??????
>>37497118
So is your belly, bob.
>>37497071
Lol wtf am I reading???
>>37495968
I personally believe that unless you're competing, there shouldn't be any 'pain'
when I say pain, I mean sharp shooting pain; I consider excessive soreness/exertion to be classified as discomfort.
I could very well be wrong, but I feel that a lot of people put far too much weight on going really, really, balls-out hard at the gym without enough focus on the diet/nutrition behind it. I've gotten reasonably muscular without much actual pain while training.
>>37497056
i know that, that's why i asked op what he meant. ATG pause squats feel the most natural to me so they're what i usually do. i don't care about being able to do ~ 1pl8 less than what i normally can, i don't like the extra stress that normies don't seem to be bothered by when they do their 1/4 ROM squats
>>37496955
>>37496962
You'll understand once you get a bigboy job, kiddos.
>>37497071
Premium penne
>>37497261
Actually, as a chemist, nobody could care less if i lift or shitpost on fitness forums.
And i literally do not believe your employer would ever know or care.
And again.. Editing your face out is a possibility
Flismy as fuck excuses/10
ITT: dyels talking about dyels
>>37497261
>johnson, did you try to prove to 4chan you aren't DYEL as fuark?
>well you know our "no fitness or 4chan during freetime" policy. I dont care if this was in the comfort of your own home, not on the company's dime, or even related to finances at all.. You're fired
Legit.exe
>>37497261
>implying that your shirtless body would ever be seen at a white collar job
You're pretty cocky for the cashier at poolside concessions.
>>37497261
>what the fuck did you say to me you little bitch
>>37497275
>>37497299
>>37497323
Fox and the grapes.
>>37497071
dank pasta bruh
>>37497334
Nobody said these grapes are sour.
We said you look like you dont even lift (because you don't even) and called you out on your horrendously bad excuses (seriously.. Very poorly thought out)
>>37495968
you'll find out this is true once you start lifting daddy weight ;)
>>37497411
>crabs in a bucket
>>37497454
No, i am not trying to pull you down to my level, i am already out of the bucket, because i look like i lift.
I was calling you out for still being in the bucket, and for giving advice like you know how to get out of it (you don't.. Yet)
>inb4 hurr i was only retarding to be pretended, le master ruseman just rused you.
No, you got called out for being DYEL, you DYEL
>>37497488
Check out the sticky newfriend. The interface is a little different than r/fitness as you are used to.
>>37497185
that trash fit
>>37496039
>sneezing while having abs DOMS
>>37496944
Since when is being nightshift manager at a payday loan place considered "the financial industry"???
>>37497505
Been lifting longer than you have been pretending to lift.
Literally never been to reddit (or anontalk, or any other faggy spin off of 4chan)
Moar damage control please, you DYEL fuck
>>37497026
I will fucking end you.
>>37497515
Laughing so hard you cry, while having ab doms, shit is so cash.
Kek all these newfags replying. You have to go back.
>>37497560
>runs out of damage control
>"hurr i was just pretending to be retarded, you s-s-summerf-fags.."
Do i at least get another (you) ??
>>37497602
>implying I'm OP
Kek keep digging your hole newfriend.
>>37496043
Found the crossfitter
>>37497516
>>37497524
>>37497602
>>37497778
Dyel: the man, the legend, the post.
>>37497261
Hey /fit/, when I lift weights; I get tired, my heart races, and my muscles are strained and I'm finding the whole thing mildly uncomfortable.
Is my form messed up or should I just be keeping it to like 3 reps of 1kg so I don't experience any discomfort?
>>37496939
> mfw the guy swinging his curls in the squat rack comes over to tell me about my form after I deadlift 4pl8 for reps
>>37498115
You shouldn't be straining your muscles man. The weight is supposed to easily go up by itself. You should't even be near the bar when it does. Don't even go to the gym, that bar will go through the roof. Relax man.
>>37498118
yfw he was right and being strong =/= knowing about form
>Avoid protein powder for "whole" foods
>squatting is good for increasing test
>Your first program should focus on strength
>Don't focus on the weight focus on form
>>37498398
these arn't wrong, its just that a lot of retards take it wrong and do dumbass shit.
>>37498456
Found the dyel.
>>37498478
do you not care about form at all?
do you think you shouldn't build a strength base with your first program?
do you think protein powder is necessary?
>>37498539
Dude.
Obvious troll is obvious. C'mon.
>>37498539
You are being trolled
>>37498351
Yfw you dont even know what the fuckmyou are talking about
>>37496251
>sore
>adjective
>(of a part of one's body) painful or aching.
>>37498578
at least try dude
I swear, every single person in this thread is trolling. And some of them are incorrect.
>>37495968
>Welcome to /plg/
>>37496043
Kek
>>37497515
Underrated post
>hey man can I get a spot?
>>37496061
either that or a lot of time
>>37496026
Summer go home.
i had a guy in my gym last week tell me that creatine is literally a form of steroid
>>37496026
lifting is like having a long, continuous orgasm. better, even
>>37498848
This. Arnold literally came every time he got a pump so unless you do the same might as well not even lift.
>>37496092
>>37496088
>mixing units
>not being an uneducated simpleton DYEL
If you can't figure out how to be shredded and still deadlift 3xBW on 1 gram of protein per kilogram of bodyweight, than you're below 1st year students.
>>37498759
Or YouTube.
>>37496047
>>you only need squats and deadlifts for your abs
this one. /fit/ all over.
Didn't read the thread, but basically any bullshit related to the whole leg day meme/craze.
>jokes about not being able to walk
>talking about how brutal their one squat session a week is
>thinking they are elite for [poorly] training the lower half of their body
>>37496026
Lol I'll load you up on the hexbar and we can do 300 pound farmer carries, see if you still say that after a mile.
>>37496026
If you're so insecure that you'll try to sabotage someone's attempts to better themselves with this kind of garbage, the bad news is that you should probably kill yourself.
>>37498870
>>37496088
>mixing units
Astronauts have been killed by mistakes like this. And now it's killing your gains.
>>37498912
>he doesn't go ham enough on legday to get DOMS
>>37498619
>try to appease a know-nothing dyel with logic on 4chan.
Ok i will, but only because i have the 'tism.
If you can diddly 4pl8, you
-know how to deadlift
-have a strong back, that candle positions normie backs cannot.
If you are deadlifting with a round back, and lifting over 400lb, there is a 99% chance you knowmwhat the fuck you are doing, and what your back can handle.
Some fat DYEL wannabe form nazi who read spines must remain in neutrality at ALL times, without exception has nothing to offer, except a display of his own stupidity.
Happy now, faggot?
>>37498938
>he has a singular "leg day"
wew lad
>>37498938
>he doesnt realize DOMS are a symptom of undertraining, and they would go away if he squatted more frequently, and more weight
Wew lad.
>>37498961
>>37498987
Samedyel.
>>37499066
The whole leg day meme really is a double edged sword. The faggots that love to spew leg day bullshit all day are obviously annoying, but I support anything that normalizes lifting for women.
>>37496026
I feel very comfortable bench/pressing/rowing heavy shit but once it comes to squats and didly i feel like shit. Is it really a genetic thing?
>>37496081
3×8-10 is the best range.
>>37497893
jesus christ, do you want to also post your reddit username so we dont have any more doubts?
>>37499105
Unedited screenshot (Legit dont know how to use ipads enough to shoop) faggot
>>37499199
K so just two separate dyels then.
>>37499066
I guaruntee i squat more weight than you.
You should hop on the bulgarian method.
I promis you, you will understand leg DOMS are a symptom of undertraining, after following an actual program like that.
If you get DOMS, you are undertrained.
Endof.
>>37496710
holy fucking reddit
>>37499207
But i lift more than you....
And i have SBTY syndrome...
>>37499214
I likely squat less than you. But indeed this is correct. The first time I was doing squats I had doms like crazy for 3-4 days. Now I do them 4-5/week and never have those "leg day"-type problems.
>>37499214
>>37499222
If your squat max is anything like your grammar, then I think it's safe to assume that I can squat much much more than you newfriend.
>>37499242
You sound like you squat under 2pl8 lmao,
Let me know when you hit 340 for a triple.
I do 3pl8 on VOLUME day, motherfucker.
That shit is practically cardio
>>37499242
I want to fit in so I will join this discussion. I also squat more than you.
>>37499282
You are also weak.
>>37499282
>can't squat 4pl8s
>thinks he's hot shit
Kek you dyels never cease to amaze me. Lmao don't bother replying I'm exiting out. I'm stronger than you. Bye.
>>37499297
I know i am weak, compared to people who actually lift.
But i guaruntee i am stronger than the leg day memeing faggot
Also, bw of 175, so get at me, fatfuck
>>37499313
Only 4pl8?
Dont even talk to me, you weakling.
8pl8 squat masterrace
#noE-stats #hashtagson4chan
>>37499321
>I gurentea i lift moore thn u....oh u cn lift more thn me? uhh well thn u prolly fat lol pwned
>>37499346
>he thinks an 8pl8 squat is impressive.
Soo.. Nobody here lifts?
>current year
>not squatting 10pl8
If you dont have specialized barbells to squeeze on a couple extra plates, you might as well not lift.
>>37499357
Did you not read the first two sentences?
Or did the fatty comment trigger you that hard?
Just go on a cut, if you are somsensitive about your weight, fampai
>>37499357
Just post stats already, powerliftfag
>>37499346
>>37499370
>being this dyel
Kek out the way kiddos, 15pl8 masterrace.
>>37499387
Nice projecting.
>TRY 340 x 3 MOTHER FUCKER GURETEED
>>37499408
Is this /fit/ memes or do you DYELs think 15pl8 is impressive? I honestly can't tell what is satire or DYELness
>>37499427
To a guy who thinks leg DOMS means proper training... Meaning he squats like 1pl8
>>37499442
This may surprise you but there are people who have been lifting longer than you on here.
>>37497010
Wtf?
How much can you hip thrust?
>>37496956
>this faggot
>hey guys can I get a form check?
>>37497071
kek
Muscle growth is the tear and repair of muscle tissue, I see what you mean pain gain bro
>>37498539
Cmon man
>>37495968
>hey bro are you using this?
>>37498913
so, here's a question: how much weight can most treadmills hold? i've thought about loading up a hex bar and getting on a treadmill but have been reluctant.
Hey man can I work in with you?
>>37496039
for me, the best cure for doms is just to lift the next day and stretch after each exercise. even between sets if you feel it coming on early.
>>37496043
>>37496082
>>37496312
Hey, guys, we got some DYELS over here
>>37496218
i only did compound movements and managed to get abs.
>>37501163
WEE WOO WEE WOO DYEL ALERT GUYS WEE WOO WEE WOO
>I want to get big and strong, BUT I WANT TO REMAIN NATURAL
Fucking dyels man, you'll never get big you fucking faggot. Everyone you admire roids, just buy spend $300 and buy yourself what you need fucking faggot and inject your ass
>>37497232
The more you know
>>37496710
Fuck summer
>all these summerfags falling for obvious b8
Holy shit stop responding and lurk moar you fucking retards
>>37501461
According to bret contreras, there is no legitimate info on how depth affects muscle engagement.
Your pic is bs.
>>37502387
>According to bret contreras
>Your pic is bs.
>>37496047
>>you only need squats and deadlifts for your abs
Wtf?
>i can't lift because it makes my joints hurt
>>37498938
>Not doing back and legs every day and only alternating chest/shoulders and bis/tris
wew lad
>>37496944
>>37498943
Enjoy the spinal ward faggot
>>37499115
Idk. I was upset pumped up for one reason (think because I was gonna go swimming with ex after lifting) and had some music and just literally KILLED every leg exercise I did. Like added on over 10lbs a set. That was yesterday and I'm still sore the next day at night.
>>37503493
I'm not really sure what that has to do with >>37499115
>>37503508
Oops I think I replied to the wrong person.. I don't think it's weird to be sore if you get super heavy.
Dyel's calling other dyel's dyel's, the thread.
This thread had potential
>>37496039
> Rarely get DOMS when i do its so minimal it actually feels good.
Stretching and good form masterrace
>>37496043
>>37496082
>>37496409
>>37496513
>>37496921
>>37497294
>>37497893
>>37498478
>>37499207
>>37501163
>>37501224
>>37503951
Just another day on /fit/
>>37495999
There we go.
Growth can only occur from sufficient stress.
Honestly, I've always been kind of shocked that my friends are so put off the gym just from the potential discomfort.
I mean, I loved hitting the gym for the first four months or so just for the endorphin high (oh how I wish I still had that post-lifting giddiness).
>but anon, you only need twenty minutes of exercise a day to stay healthy!
>stop doing deadlifts! they'll destroy your back!
Ffs I'm DYEL-tier and even I think one should dig deep if they are going to cultivate a good physique
>>37498943
My deadlift is 435 for 5. My roundback deadlift is still well under three plates (admittedly I don't train it much).
Not that impressive really, but showing that we're in the same echelon of demonstration.
So I don't know man. I'm not trying to be a shit, since I know that's not helpful. It definitely sounds like you've built your back up pretty nicely. But I can't help but think that if you're near the limits of your back's capacity in a position that isn't anatomically neutral, you're in a much riskier, less stable position at the top.
I know that I've let my core get tired and my lower back round on heavy deads and it's made me sore after.
Just my two cents.
>>37499133
Squats and deadlifts hit a larger absolute mass of your muscle.
It's expected that it's going to hit your total body harder, and place more stress on your system.
>>37500827
They're rarely certified for more than 350lbs. High end ones might go to 500lbs for just this kind of reason.
Home models (which some crappier gyms have) are sometimes designed with a top limit of 250lbs.
>>37496730
Agreed. American culture loves big asses because their women are mostly overweight - and men are too stupid to understand they are under their agenda. There was not much talk about ass before all the Nicki Plasticass and Megan Fatass songs, they started to push this trend and then landwhales seized it.
Just ask any Europoor, almost no one likes disproportionate asses here and they would say it's gross. Almost any girl tries to buy clothes that don't make her ass look big and fat.
>>37497185
> black shirt
It's like a lower class stigma.
>>37496047
Shit this is me. What should I do for abs?
>>37504644
Oh and Asians to the big-ass haters too.
>The "i can't be hurt" beginner attitude
Just wait till you start benching 300+ and squatting 450+
>>37496279
>being this retarded
>>37496764
I wanna see your "gains"
>>37496764
Big man on the internet
Everyone listen to the big man on the internet
>>37497185
Guy in a pic is definitely in a good shape, not great but good. If you wanna be in great shape you have to step out from comfort zone.
>>37496090
>leg day doms meme
Kys
>>37497261
Mfw you are jobless fat virgin anime pony autist and still live with ur parents at 35. Well played u fucking nothing.
>>37499105
Laughed
>>37499167
This.
I aim for 10, if I do 8 I decrease weight and if I do 12 I increase.
>>37497010
you what? post ass.
>>37504668
Hanging leg raises, ab wheel rollouts, crunches/situps, planking, cable crunches, etc. Ab workouts are easiest to find online cause of the ab obsession in pop culture
>>37495968
Literally no one literally says this.
>>37505012
Life pro-tip: Get a job. Your parents will respect you for it.
>>37498398
Ass/legs are biggest muscles in the body so yes squatting does increase test more so than any other lift
>>37507335
Nice broscience newfriend.
>>37506587
I say it. When you hit a certain age (30) pain is bad.
Younger lads (and those on steroids) can train through most "pain" and make "gains".
>>37507371
Naw no broscience. I know you're trolling but for people who don't know lifting does increase test levels "obviously". So skipping leg day? Prolly not smart
>>37496939
Well a rounded back is a good indication how good you are at squatting. A 300lb squat with good form should lead to a 325lb deadlift with perfect lumbar spine.
>>37496774
>a year
>thinks he isn't a summerfag anymore
>>37495968
Hey bro nice set!
>>37496710
Jesus fuck get the summer
>>37498398
>only dyels don't focus on weight more than form
I'll bet your back is in tip top shape
>>37496978
I have an ass like that. It's a fucking meme. Big asses don't look good on a brother.
