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Sumo Deadlift is CHEATING
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Sumo deadlift is not a real deadlift.

I've seen too many faggots on here who do only sumo dead lifts.

You're cheating yourselves , sumo dead lift is much easier than normal dead lift, power lifting comps shouldn't even allow it.

Sumo deadlift favors manlet betas with manlet leverages putting them at an advantage over more properly sized individuals. If conventional was required, almost all of the top powerlifter manlet fucks would be left behind in the dust since they aren't allowed to cheat anymore.
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>>37490046
>what are weightclasses
only manlet classes and women sumo, no sumo in 105+
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>>37490046
OP obviously got outlifted by a manlet
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>>37490046
Autism
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Sumo is for fucking pussy faggots
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Okay can any of you post a deadlift within 100lbs of this?
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>>37490090
Brett Gibbs is a manlet and does conventional.
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>>37490917
agreed
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>>37491738
>sumo
>straps
>pulling from boards

Not even the bitches behind you are miring. Lol
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>>37491738
Hahahahaha what a fucking dumbass
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>>37491738
>sumo
>straps
>belt
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>>37491738

What shorts and shoes are those bro?
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You're right OP.
Sumo deadlift isn't a real deadlift. It's a sumo deadlift.
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Sumo or no sumo, as long as they are having fun and making progress I don't see any problems.
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>>37491948

Are you supposed to hold that weight in your hands and fingers, without help what so ever?

At 100 kg deadlift i start to fail bc of it slipping out of my hands
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Can someone tell how I cam do deadlifts sumo or not ai don't care
I am a 6'3 lanklet with skoliosis and a weak back. When i deadlift 1plate i feel like my back is breaking. I try my best to have a straight back but it doesn't seem to be enough
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>>37492029
That's fucking weak, anon. Your grip strength will need to improve in order for you to progress. Do your warm-up sets without straps, and your first few reps of 100kg. Do the sets afterwards with straps when your hands are too fatigued.
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>>37492029

Most people can hold their deadlift max. At most they'll use chalk.

Of course, that's a different question to whether or not straps are useful training tools.
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>>37491738
>roidhead bragging about sumo blockpulls

not impressed
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>>37491738

How do you do that without your hands instantly getting shredded by the weight
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>>37490046
>Sumo deadlift is not a real deadlift.
>I've seen too many faggots on here who do only sumo dead lifts.
>You're cheating yourselves , sumo dead lift is much easier than normal dead lift, power lifting comps shouldn't even allow it.
>Sumo deadlift favors manlet betas with manlet leverages putting them at an advantage over more properly sized individuals. If conventional was required, almost all of the top powerlifter manlet fucks would be left behind in the dust since they aren't allowed to cheat anymore.

10ft basketball hoops are not real basketball hoops.
I've seen too many faggots on here who only shoot at a 10ft basket.
You're cheating yourselves, 10ft hoops are much easier than normal 6ft hoops, basketball tournaments shouldn't even allow it.
10ft hoops favor lanklet betas with lanklet leverages putting them at an advantage over more properly sized individuals. If 6ft hoops were required, almost all of the basketball lankletlet fucks would be left behind in the dust since they aren't allowed to cheat anymore.
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>that guy that throws mad shade over a fucking different deadlifting stance
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>>37491738

>Dat back hyper extension though

Is everyone who pulls Sumo a goddamn retard?
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>>37492057
>>37492060

Ok, thanks for the reply.

Need to work on that grip then.
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>>37492088
What the fuck are you even trying to spout? Truly, you are the retard.
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>tfw piss in the fecaes of sumo haters

http://strengtheory.com/should-you-deadlift-conventional-or-sumo/

"Your hip structure will impact your strength and comfort in the conventional and sumo deadlift much more than factors like height and limb lengths.
There are no factors that make either the conventional or the sumo deadlift inherently easier or harder. It’s more a matter of individual strengths and weaknesses.
Hip extension demands are nearly identical between the conventional and sumo deadlifts. Conventional pulls are a little easier on your quads, and sumo pulls are a little easier on your back.
To determine which deadlift style will be best for you, just train both of them for a few months, and stick with the one that’s the strongest and most comfortable with submaximal loads. If that style is weaker with maximal loads, then it’s easy to identify the specific weakness that’s holding you back."
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>>37492429

This, if you train both sumo and conventional, you'll figure out which works best for you personally and they'll be within 50lbs of each other.
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anyone else cant fucking deadlift with sweaty fingers, it just slips off even on hook grip
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>>37492029
>At 100 kg deadlift i start to fail bc of it slipping out of my hands
LONDON
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Sumo should not be allowed in competition.

Either that or all the lifts in competition should have a standardized ROM (relative to height) that everyone must achieve. Might help stop fatty back arching in bench too.
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>>37490046
Who fucking cares, OP? Powerlifting even not a sport compared to godlike Olympic Weightlifting.
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>>37492143
try to use chalk
I found I started to fail at 2pl8 because it was fucking hot in the gym and my hands would sweat like crazy and the bar would slip
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>>37492572
>only powerlifters roid
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>>37492597

Hell, he managed to find one of the few top-level untested powerlifters who isn't actually on. Just so fat the Wilks scale actually breaks down trying to deal with him.
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>>37492597
>one mistake
>IT CHANGES EVERYTHING!!!!111
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>>37490046
OP is right. Sumo is a way easier lift. That's why all current world record deadlifts are done in sumo stance.
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>>37492624
I actually like oly lifting more than powerlifting
I think its just stupid to think anyone at that high of a level is natty
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>>37491738
>Bitch not even remotely impressed
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>>37492542
chalk and more grip work.
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OP is a typical stupid fitizen.

>OH DAT BAD WRIST MOBILITY
>OH DAT PUSSYPAD
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>>37490046
I agree OP
Sumo is only acceptable as an assist lift to conventional

Mixed grip are also for faggots and belts under 4pl8 is leltier
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>>37491738
>straps

Fuck off.
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obviously. anyone with a shred of honor wouldn't be caught dead doing them
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>>37492680
Not to mention that that stupid fucking squat plank.
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If Sumo is cheating then why doesn't every powerlifter do em?
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>>37492029
>what is hook grip
>what is alternating grip
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Funny how not a single person ITT that calls sumo out can deadlift more than 4 pl8.

I believe that most of them are trolls, but I also believe that there are few individuals that are actually being serious.
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hmm why do i conventional more than i do sumo?
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>>37492957
Because powerlifting is not a sport, and powerlifters are guys who want to look good under the guise of doing a 'sport'
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>>37493123
I don't think you read the question properly.
Your answer isn't even slightly related.
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>>37492029
As long as you are not deadlifting strongman stuff like Eddie Hall you should be able to hold your 1RM in your hands. Try chalk and alternating grip on your 1RM attempts but don't always train alternate with the same hand turned. Can fuck up your symetry and biceps.
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>>37492106
I see so many people doing this and used to do it myself. All you have to do is squeez your glutes at the top to look out the hip. Hyper extension like that hurts just by looking at it.
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Ban sumo by all means, regard it as not a "real" deadlift. I don't lift sumo, because my numbers in it are smaller than my conventional pulls.


However if you are using the same arguments of why sumo is "less than" conventional, then the same arguments apply to lowbar being "less than" high bar and should therefore also not be allowed in powerlifting.
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>>37493217
Both Sumo and Lowbar should banned. No fucking arguments.
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>>37493034
This. They see guys pulling more than them sumo so use that as an excuse for their weak genetics and programming.
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>>37493225
No! Shut the fuck up you retard cuck.

I deadlift 105kg with clean conventional form, sure if I wanted to cheat I could use sumo and lift double that much, but have fucking integrity and don't ego lift.
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>>37493222
I wouldn't be against it, I lift conventional and high bar myself... but I really don't care, especially as a lot of the guys I know who hate on sumo are the same guys then squatting lowbar, using the same justifications for it as the reasons they hate sumo.
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>>37491948
>>37491987
>>37492077
>>37492106
280kg, no straps, no blocks, no hyperextension :^)
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>>37490090
>>37490046
As a fucking manlet I've always been shit at sumo deadlifting. When will I learn?

Honestly sumo and conventional deadifts shouldn't be considered the same exercise, but what bothers me even more, is people pulling mixed grip, with the mixed grip you're just going to develop some sort of muscular imbalances regardless of whether you pull sumo or conventional.
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Hope everyone calling out sumo is trolling. These guys putting up huge numbers sumo also conventional, and they blow your piss weak pull out of the water
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>>37490046
OP has obviously never long legs short torso'd. I still practice conventional for the most part but its undeniable that sumo plays more to my natural biomechanics. It's not cheating.
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>>37493298
Sumo tends to be easier if you're a manlet. Saw a 5'3 guy sumo deadlifting lmao4plates a few days back and he must have had a 6 inch range of motion. You guys lift from just below the knee!
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>>37493286
>blue plate on the inside

fuck off this is clearly 270
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>>37493286
That's a no lift faggot
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Arched widegrip benching is not a real benchpress.

I've seen too many faggots on here who do only arch backed widegripped benchpress

You're cheating yourselves , wide arch bench press is much easier than normal bench press, power lifting comps shouldn't even allow it.

arch back bench favors lanklet betas with lanklet leverages putting them at an advantage over more properly sized individuals. If flatback close grip was required, almost all of the top powerlifter lanklet fucks would be left behind in the dust since they aren't allowed to cheat anymore.
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>>37493379
Also because they snapped their rotator cuffs
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>>37490046
>using JP cauchi to meme about manlets

NO

>>37493379
Get the fuck out of here. Take of your trip. Buy a bottle of draino. And never talk about powerlifting. You literally give us a bad name. You are an embarrassment to plg and everyone you've ever met hates you.

Oh and your parents are ashamed of what you are and what you've done with your life.
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>>37493403
>Get the fuck out of here. Take of your trip. Buy a bottle of draino. And never talk about powerlifting. You literally give us a bad name. You are an embarrassment to plg and everyone you've ever met hates you.
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>Oh and your parents are ashamed of what you are and what you've done with your life.
Think you meant to reply to yourself lad
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>>37493369
Clearly not, hold it all the way down, no downward movement of the bar on the way up.
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>>37493403
>Take of your trip
>of
England really is collapsing if you can't use your own language correctly.
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>>37493403
I mean, he is right, sumo is cheating. Sould be banned in ipf, no one wants to see anyone do heavy splits.
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>>37493409
>Buy a bottle of draino.
you know if he does kill himself now you are legally responsible, right?

fucking hell, that is literally against the law in Bongistan, i'm going to report you to the Bobby's
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>>37493403
>british
>telling somebody to kill themselves on the internet
>with a trip that is connected to your real name

you're fucked now you cheeky bugger
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>>37493456
>the american thinks you die from buying a bottle of draino
This is why americans are filthy, smelly subhumans
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you guys are just jealous of sumo masterrace
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>>37490046
>sumo deadlifts benefit manlets and manlet leverages

Welcome to powerlifting my dude.

The whole sport benefits manlets and manlet leverages.
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>>37493588
Don't fucking hyper extend like that.
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>>37493588
Aren't you afraid of slipping with those socks?
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>>37493588
lmao that doesn't fucking coutn.

Sure it's more than I could lift, but seeing as I can do 120kg for 1 rep I could probably get near that by cheating and using sumo.
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>>37493609
Less than 1 year lifting. Why shouldn't you hyperextend like that on the end of a dead?
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Why would you do normal (right) over sumo? It trains less muscles
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>>37493684
If it suits your proportions/you want to train back more than hips.

Conv. is good for long arms

Sumo is good for short arms
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>>37493693

Ah okay,

I have short as fuck arms and can't do normal without lifting with my back
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>>37493674
Imagine all the weight pulling you down into hyper extension at the top. Does that sound healthy for you discs? Not at all.
You want a neutral spin and lookout your hips at the top which is easily achieved by squeezing your glutes hard.
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>>37493709
So basically its a vertebra problem. Thanks for explaining. Sometimes it feels good to hyperextend, what is that about?
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>>37493684
Why would you do the overhead press over the push press? It trains less muscles.
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>>37493799

Dunno, switching to push press now

Seriously m8?
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>>37490046
>sumo dead lift is much easier than normal dead lift,
That's what we call good technique.
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>>37490046
>sumo dead lift is much easier than normal dead lift
[CITATION NEEDED]
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>>37493971
OP here.

I can do 240lbs conventional, but with the cheat version I can do 250lbs
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>>37494011
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>>37494011
Sure, but as a person who is NOT a DYEL and who trains both deadlifts, I can tell you with certainty that for me, I am not only significantly stronger conventional, but it is also a much more comfortable lift for me.

210kg conventional and while I have never maxed on sumo, ~160ish feels like a pain and like my legs are going to pop off.

I've been training both for about 6 months as well, so it's not like I'm new to the movement either.
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>>37490046
is hyperextending bad for the back?
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>>37492088
Manlet rage: the post.
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>>37493609
You're actually a huge idiot but okay.
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>>37493588
watch your feet, dont wanna do a candito
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>>37494048
Fucking detrimental

I'd rather pull with a cat back than hyperextended back
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>>37491948
>>37491973
>>37492077
>>37492106
>>37492870
None of these showed a >485lb deadlift ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

>>37491998
2xu shorts, asics mat flex shoes
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>>37496455
Convies btfo
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>>37496719
We got em
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>>37494011
Fuck off I'm OP you dumb nigger
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>>37493403
Get the FUCK out of my thread you stupid, worthless, genetically fucked faggot and leave lil' raspy alone
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>>37492429
For someone like me who has hip mobility issues with conventional, do you think it's more beneficial to pull sumo, or conventional with the weight elevated a bit on 2 plates?
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>>37496783
youre kinda overextending at the top
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I like it when people who can't pull 3pl8 conventional or sumo argue why one is better than the other.
If sumo is easier and cheating, why don't you remove like 20-30 imaginary kilos from their lift and then compare them to yourself? Are they still stronger? Could you lift the weight sumo?
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>>37491738
You know that you're supposed to wear those compression shorts UNDER a pair of other shorst?
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>>37498670
If you're so self conscious about yourself that you have to hide your dick with a pair of shorts then you should KYS
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Agreed op fuck sumo fags
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Good thread
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>>37496455
Since it's usually sumofags that are lame enough to video themselves at the gym you might not get the video you're looking for.
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>>37501604
All I hear is a butt flustered little mad little manlet
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>>37501630
I'm almost as turned on as i was in the maxx chewning video of his first meet when he had no underwear under his singlet
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