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A thread for the discussion of the sport of weightlifting and all things related. Keep the insults, bullying, and shitposting to a minimum.

>Doping news
http://www.allthingsgym.com/retests-olympic-doping-samples/
https://www.olympic.org/news/statement-by-the-ioc-executive-board
They're gonna extend the testing. Expect even more people getting caught.

>How to Snatch w/ Klokov
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLGYKQZg-b1FYhl4P8OnCd_C2v2tjOC55X

>How to Clean & Jerk w/ Klokov
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLGYKQZg-b1FaJbNrQrwYXkP0BVDKdTpPy

>Pas notes about the Chinese System
http://chinfl.blogspot.sk/2016/02/notes-from-china.html

>Commisar's notes on the dank, zesty Meme Method (DZMM)
http://pastebin.com/u0jiY8sM

>Everett Basic Novice Program
http://imgur.com/pCKsrOM
http://www.catalystathletics.com/article/131/Starter-Program-for-Catalyst-Athletics-Online-Workouts/

>Takano Example Programs [CIII, CII, CI, CMS]
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1M8AqZyApAyeSx-AoX3drVwpQEAJzVDvAJsE9PKoPwZw/edit?usp=sharing

>Mobility stuff
http://www.catalystathletics.com/video/section/2/Mobility-Flexibility-Training-Prep/

>Useful videos
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCl3WCm2GfvLxvH877oJ1xEA/playlists

>Helpful blogs
yashathoughts.com
chinfl.blogspot.com

>Commisar's notes on the dank, zesty Meme Method (DZMM)
http://pastebin.com/u0jiY8sM
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Hi lads. Been doing some front squats and push jerks can I be a cool weightlifter now?

Also if I was going to do a clean and press should I clean with a normal clean grip or my press grip?
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is 6x3 @65kg snatches good for the second time you're doing them, even if you're a big boy like me (117kg)?

Had to press them to lockout quite a lot of times due to missed timing, how to improve this?
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why do i keep hitting my throat with the bar during cleans?
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>>37437095
clean grip
your press grip should also be your clean grip if you ain't a square

>>37437145
why are you worried about if it's good or not
it's literally your second time lifting nothing is good
and you won't ever be good until you snatch +150
unless you live in a developed country in which case you'll never be good
so stop worrying about it and get back to work

>>37437160
you don't know how to pull
after extending pull the bar into throat (not actually but just the idea) with elbows pointing up, then sweep elbows around with bar as pivot point
this is also how you prevent crashing
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>>37437160
goddamit what episode is that from?
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>>37437509
>elbows pointing up

doesnt china teach elbows back and russia elbows up

when i watch china pulls they always bring the elbows back early compared to russia
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>>37437607
nope, up
it looks like back because most elites immediately sweep elbows as soon as they finish extending
but if you look at them do muscle snatches you can see them pulling fully and then sweeping elbows under
also russians don't teach sweep afaik
they just bend into the bar or something
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form check pls
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>>37438603

y dont u get receive the bar lower on ur jerk. u could jerk higher numbers
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>>37438603

btw not bashing you at all. you probably have the best form here.
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>>37438603

mirin the jerks
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>>37438820

commisar is still more explosive. don't let your boipussi get too wet you chink loving twink.
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Is ilya kill?
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I was lurking and someone told durkz that his meniscus tear will repair over time

this is false, meniscus tears do not heal. there is no blood flow to the area. It's surgery or nothing.
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>>37439263

Shitty info but maybe?
http://m.inform.kz/en/article/2910831
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>>37439357

Dang. RIP in piece durkz :^(
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>>37437145
I did 90kg clean on my first day, but the second time i was there with a coach i was only allowed to touch the barbell due to my form.
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>>37439830

he may not need surgery if it's not painful and not likely to deteriorate as per his physician's recommendations. Non-surgical options increasingly being considered in medical field, esp for knee
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Ilin gonna test positive

Roidfags btfo
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>>37440145

>roiding for this
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>>37440145
rude
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>>37437042
I injured my right shoulder by losing a snatch behind me
The injury doesn't bother me day-to-day except very rarely from a pressing motion but the pain is sharp when I try to perform the rear hand clasp and it affects my mobility in the snatch. How to fix?
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>>37440299

Pay a coach and a health professional
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>>37440301
Doctor visits are not cheap in Ameristan and the only remotely qualified coaches in the area are XFitters
There are hardly even PLers in my area
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>>37440322

>Doctor visits are not cheap

IT'S FUCKING 2015+1

AND YOU TELL ME YOU DON'T HAVE

HEALTH FUCKING CARE

IN YOUR FUCKING COUNTRY

WHAT THE FUCK IS YOUR GOVERNMENT DOING WITH YOUR MONEY NIGGA
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>>37440322
>Doctor visits are not cheap
AMERICA

LAND OF THE FREE

BUT YOU MUST PAY FOR THE DOCTOR
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>>37440501
>free speech
who the hell pays to speak?
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>>37440341
basically, costs are artificially inflated for important shit (medication/healthcare/education/infrastructure/housing) due to endemic corruption and lack of oversight in Ameristan. A good example is the Anderson Memorial Bridge in Cambridge, which took less than a year to build in 1912, and yet today took over 5 years and ~$27 million to repair, which is several times its inflation-adjusted original cost.

USA! USA! USA!
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>>37440552

Its not even really corruption in the case of medical care, its a downward spiral of fighting with the insurance companies.

Big insurance companies refuse to pay the ticket price for services rendered to their insurees. Hospitals retaliate by jacking up the billed amounts so that they're making money even after the insurance company shorts them. And anyone without insurance or belonging to an insurance company without the clout to pull the "we're paying 70%, take it or leave it" stunts gets fucked right in the wallet.

Emergency room stuff is even worse because then you've got to factor in the number of patients the hospital knows damn well it'll never get money from - and that's a lot because the nature of the US medical system throws up a lot more emergency visits than most comparable western countries.
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>>37440594
I agree with you, though I would consider it falling under the umbrella of 'lack of oversight', which is to say that dysfunctional systems in this country are allowed to fester without effective intervention. In any case, I appreciate your added clarity.
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>>37440506
People in the Middle East. For example, before one of my friends emigrated to the United States, she was living in Iraq (originally from Pakistan). She made a passing criticism of Saddam Hussein at a party and one of her friends rushed her out the door and into a vehicle to drive to her over the border. What's the big deal? Before long they had Hussein's vehicles chasing them. She made it safely, her friend got her a good head start, but she moved immediately. Some people in the world can pay with their lives to speak, my friend.
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Trappy get here pls. I asked about 80-100kg OHP since I don't bench and you said it was pretty possible to reach that in 6 months, I have also looked at strongman forums and have seen quite a few people manage it like that too so doesn't even seem that uncommon.

Why are some people telling me it will take 1-2 years?
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>>37440758
Fug, didn't realise this was OWG.
Why is this appearing when I search PLG? D:<
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>>37440758

Most strongman competitors and wannabe competitors are a) huge bastards and b) on gear. Also strongman has very loose ideas on form.

I'm not saying its impossible to do that increase fast - and if anyone can do it, its strongman trainees since they're the only ones seriously focusing on it - but most people aren't going to PR on their press max every week to get that kind of increase.
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>>37440145
Prepare to see weightlifting scrapped from the olympics with all the busts lately
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>>37439357
not true
there's blood flow everywhere in your body
ligaments/tendons just get very little.. it can take a year for protein turnover to occur in that kind of connective tissue

it will heal, it will just take a while. growth hormone and secretatogues and such help a lot i hear.
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>>37441639
panic
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y-yeah?
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>>37442239
Gh can literally regrow tissue so it would

Androdurkz could get some I'm sure

Ipamorelin and other cheaper peptides can help too look at lovchev lol
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>>37441639
>>37442309

SEND HELP
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>>37442515
my point is the lig. will heal without drugs.

with some gh stuff it will heal an order of magnitude faster though

but fyi none of this is WADA approved :^)
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>>37442309
Can we have that in non-kebap?
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>>37442635
Idk.. Kenya?????
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>>37442684
Thanks obama
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>>37442515
I'm gonna buy some Cissus and if that don't work I'm gonna out bench isley by 10kg then by that point I should be able to afford some gh
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>>37442809
>out bench isley by 10kg
>tfw low standards
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Form check?
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Yeaah.
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>>37442843
165kg bench 365lbs isn't enough bench?
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>>37442958
You're a sensitive guy
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>>37442857
This is some real Olympic level shit right here
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>>37442857
Not that bad, be more agressive for your third pull
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>>37443036
You mean pull under harder?
FYI those were meant to be power snatches.
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>>37442895
the future of the IWF and olympics!
Jon Norths fed might actually catch steam or another fed like it.
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huh

I woke up at 7 because i couldnt breath but that was the only time last night
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>>37442239

not everywhere. Deep meniscal tissue is avascular. Par example,
>Arthroscopic surgery is the only way to treat the tear since there are currently no medications, braces, or physical therapy treatments that have been shown to promote healing in the avascular tears.
http://www.orthoassociates.com/SP11B39/

It says that the outer ring of the meniscus, comprising of maybe 20% of total, has blood supply but the rest does not. There is no blood supply in the innermost components

If you have a source that leads you to believe otherwise, then I'd be very curious to read it
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>>37443766
ur mum

its just like hippocampal neurogenesis
>yeah but it only occurs in the hippocampus haha
no
the generated neurons leak out and go EVERYWHERE
dumby
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>>37443791

m8 the burden of proof is on you if you're disagreeing with virtually the entire medical literature on meniscal tears
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>>37443810
As far as I know most magical tears do not heal on their own... meniscus actually degenerate over time to the contrary... I've already had surgery for one and I put a lot of research into my injury so I think commisar is right.
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>>37443856

>commisar
eh

and yes I've researched them a lot considering I've had 80% of my right meniscus removed
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>>37443856
i dont remember commenting on the issue
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>>37443810
no the burden of proof is on you. you are literally the one making the claim in the first place, 99% of tissues in the body heal and have bloodflow
if u say this one dont you are going against all the physioloyy papers

also, "le burden of proof"? you shluld return to redit, durkz
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>>37443900

yes, 99% of the body has blood flow that heals. Part of that 1% that doesn't includes the inner 80% of the meniscus. The source I posted above is one of many with identical conclusions.
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>>37443900
this is not me
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>>37443929
juust looked at it now..
>orthoassociates
literally run by jews. they can't be trusted. "le lets remove 100% of ur meniscus for $60,000, it wont heal on its own and this will somehow repair it, heheh!"
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>>37443947

I gathered

>>37443960

ok
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Connective tissue usually is highly vascular (has a rich blood supply). Exceptions include cartilage, which is avascular, and tendons, which have a small blood supply. There are three basic elements to connective tissue: cells.
Connective tissue usually is highly vascular (has a rich blood supply). Exceptions include cartilage, which is avascular, and tendons, which have a small blood supply. There are three basic elements to connective tissue: cells.
Connective tissue usually is highly vascular (has a rich blood supply). Exceptions include cartilage, which is avascular, and tendons, which have a small blood supply. There are three basic elements to connective tissue: cells.
Connective tissue usually is highly vascular (has a rich blood supply). Exceptions include cartilage, which is avascular, and tendons, which have a small blood supply. There are three basic elements to connective tissue: cells.

>a little blood supply
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Epithelia are avascular, which means “without vessel”. The vessels that supply nutrients and remove wastes are located in the adjacent connective tissue. The exchange of material between epithelium and connective tissue is by diffusion.
Epithelia are avascular, which means “without vessel”. The vessels that supply nutrients and remove wastes are located in the adjacent connective tissue. The exchange of material between epithelium and connective tissue is by diffusion.
Epithelia are avascular, which means “without vessel”. The vessels that supply nutrients and remove wastes are located in the adjacent connective tissue. The exchange of material between epithelium and connective tissue is by diffusion.

>diffusion, diffusion, diffusion
THERE IS STILL A NUTRIENT SUPPLY DUMBY
YOU'RE DUMB
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>>37443997
>>37444009
Cmon, we know commi is pretentiously dumb, but not to this degree
Baiting too hard m8
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>>37441639
>>37442309

Still waiting on official confirmation.

Btw I was rewatching the WWC 2010 105 and they mention that Aramnau was suspected of doping and was being tested at that time.
Nothing came of it obviously, but I wonder if they're gonna re-test him now again with the new technology. I highly doubt Aramnau would come out negative.

Seems like the Klokov olympic gold medal isn't too far.
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>>37444435
What makes you think your klok isn't gonna come out positive :^)
Then he'd be cucked out of every relevant medal
Such exciting times
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>>37444532
True. They didn't mention non champions... did they?
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>>37444532

He definitely would if he had competed in 2012.

His performance in 2008 was nowhere near the level of his performance on gear though. He only got 230 C&J and 193kg Snatch.
I highly doubt he will come out positive.

It can happen though, who knows. But I don't really expect it.

Aramnau got 200kg Snatch and 236kg C&J with ridiculous ease though. No way he's not gonna come out positive if they retest.
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>>37444556
20 caught overall
More tests to come

>>37444608
Wishful thinking
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>>37444632
>Wishful thinking
agree
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>>37444632

We're all doing nothing but wishful thinking and talking about rumours at this point, isn't it?

I'm not saying he's natty. Just saying his performance in 2008 makes me expect him to be off the gear for long enough.
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It's all just rumours and games right? Hahahahahahaha. I can't be wrong because we're just speculating hahahahahahahaha!

Eat shit.
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>>37444608
>his performance on gear though

what's his performance on gear like according to your expert opinion?

his best results were only 6kg higher than what he did in beijing

everyone fucking lifts bigger number in training obviously
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why do i hate squatting so much? i've been squatting for nearing 2 years and i still dread it. i still haven't even hit 3 plate yet. can power cleans and push press be enough for legs?
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>>37444632
Not natty lifters. They usually have bugger comp numbers.
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>>37444737
6kg over was his best performance off gear and you're technically wrong. Jojoba has done 202.5/240 in competition.
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>>37444726

>being this buttmad about nothing

lmfao

>>37444737

His performance on gear is exactly 803.26kg total
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>>37444781
as a superheavy and before injuries ur a idiot 2 durkz
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>>people getting mad at facts.
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>>37444827

He got 206kg snatch right before the 2012 olympics.
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>>37444847
with straps and as a superheavy in training i already said everyone lifts heavier in training

LMAO BRUH LOVCHEV HIT 220 SNATCH HE IS NATTY CAUSE HE ONLY HIT 211
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IOC ordered these tests right?
I assume theyre looking for reasons to get rid of a sport thats not interesting commercial wise
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>>37444867

>everyone lifts heavier in training

No. Ilya Ilyin best numbers are from competition. Xiaojun best numbers are from competition. And this is just citing two well known lifters, there are many more with bigger comp numbers than training numbers.

And Klokov wasn't 120kg in training, he was under 110kg. Probably closer to 105kg as the snatch video was near the olympics.
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>>37444902
They both hit higher numbers in training though lad
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>>37444942

Proof or gtfo
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>>37444902
>lya Ilyin best numbers are from competition

yeah ilya hit 197/241 as a 94

lu hit 181/220 as 77 both in comp

how did i forget that damn
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>>37444902
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIi0Ysp9UlU
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>>37444953
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jM6EVgu7CL0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3vfUuTq2oE
Lu hit 180+220 in training and ilya 196/240 in preparation for london
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. I wanna start leaning out but I havent reached an appreciate strength level yet so ... What should I hit before I start cutting?

>Current (all lbs)
Front Squat - 210x5
Bench - 205 3x5
OHP - 138 3x5
Barbell Row - 220 3x5


I'm 5'10'' and 188lbs ... probably 18 or 19% BF
/
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>>37444969

>yeah ilya hit 197/241 as a 94

Video proof

>lu hit 181/220 as 77 both in comp

Lu is a roider so who cares

>>37444986

Straps
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>>37444902
>he thinks the largest weight class in weightlifting is +120kg
back to /plg/ please
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>>37444953
You're too new to be posting your opinion. Sorry.
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So if ilya gets caught and disqualified the medals will go to russians and iranians, who every knows are super clean, or perhaps they re-test everyone, given half of the A group have already recieved doping bans, until no one is left but south korea and great britain?
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are weighted crunches good/enough for core assistance?

like, a lot of programs tell you to do something for assistance but never specify what exactly
how the fuck am I supposed to know?
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>>37445372
if you don't know you're too inexperienced to be doing that program :^)

or maybe just too dumb for WL
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>>37445391
real helpful you fucking piece of shit

you must be amazing at parties IRL
oh wait haha
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>>37445407
I guess you really are dumb as my dick hahaha
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>>37445109
reply pls
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>when /owg/s hero is a confirmed cheater
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>>37445487
Our hero is Hysen not mr ilyin thank you very much
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>>37445510
Isnt he a confirmed cheater too?
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>>37445522
Yes he is lol, got caught for dbol of all things, hahaha. Weightlifting confirmed roidsport
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>>37445256
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fJG41CNngY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fO9LTQgzRw
196+240
>lu is a roider so who cares
babby
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>>37445541
dbol is not winstrol idiot
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Where are people getting 220 by lu from
That's a load of baloney he's done nowhere near as much
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>>37445786
How would i remember, he's irrelevant as fuck
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>>37445935
from ur mom

but liao hui has done 220 jerk with real plates not fake but lu cant
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>>37445935
His coach said so some years ago
180/220 both training PRs
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>>37445976
rack jerk is different
Also that mastrength vid is fake

>>37445978
He was probably talking about the ohs
Chinamen estat all the time
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>>37442958
>benching
What would Papa Klokov think?
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>>37445372
Load up bar
Hold in front rack position for rounds 30 seconds
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>>37446318
what? how does that work the core at all?
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Jontwinkcuck have you ever lifted at Variety Village in Scarborough?

There's an open comp. there on the 25th. You should go so we can meet :^)
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>>37446571
I may b a twink but i aint a cuck

And no ive never trained there, trained at kanama when i was in toronto

25th of june? Would if i wasnt in the middle of strength squat cycle
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>>37446631
They have a weightlifting team but I was talking about lifting for comp. They seem to host a lot of comps there it's a nice place.

Don't be a pussy one little comp won't kill you in a strength cycle.

btw what are you squatting any juicy prs lately?
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>>37446360
Keeping the bar in a front rack position with very heavy weight requires core stability, as evidenced by the difficulty of maintaining upright posture in the bottom of a front squat.
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>>37446663
Know never been there desu (surpprised i havent)

Its more i dont wana drive all the way there for just an afternoon

Hit a 110clean , 140 bs, almost got a 108cj
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>>37446249
Considering that klokov benches 190 he probably wouldn't care.
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>>37446881
nice still at 140 back squat? cmon get big

is scarborough really that far from missisauga or wherever u are?

its a 4 hour drive for me lmao
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>>37446916
Scratch that. Klokov has benched 230kg

http://www.allthingsgym.com/dmitry-klokov-personal-records/
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>>37446916
I thought he didn't bench anymore since he believes it will tighten shoulders
I also remember his bench being 200+
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>>37446962
200x5 and 230x1
He's benching again.
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>>37446962

>he believes it will tighten shoulders

Source?
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>>37447031
Mentions it in some vids, think maybe the one where he visits lovchev
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>>37447098

I asked for SOURCE, not where you THINK you've seen it.
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>>37446820
i'm looking for core strength, not stability, friend
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>>37447255
Find it yourself then you lazy little cunt
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>>37447255
http://strongforlife.co.uk/lessons-lifting-legend-dmitry-klokov/
Here he says he avoids benching. Not the anon you replied to but I can't for the life of me find where Klokov said that he avoids it for the sake of his shoulders.
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>>37447285
Semantics. Front rack holds will build great core strength directly applicable to Olympic weightlifting.
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>>37447385
Kek just wait till trappy see this
Suicide hotline on speed dial
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>>37447385
>>37447531

To be honest, that's what someone else has written, not Klokov himself.
Klokov mentions bench pressing all the time in interviews.

Also, we have videos of him YOUNG and bench pressing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9F_Db2jsw7c
He also has mentioned his bench PR is 230kg.

Klokov also talks about non-specific training all the time in his interviews about the russian system, and on his biography.

So we have conflicting info here.
One is from Klokov himself saying stuff and doing stuff.
The other is Sam Young telling us what Klokov said and does.
I think I know who is talking about Klokov with the most accuracy here.
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>>37447531
trappy-already-killed-herself
i-hacked-her-trip-code
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>>37447773
Russians program bench press as GPP for the youngins. They proceed to program more specific strength lifts and then even more specific as they progress.

Plus Klokov is now a meme crossfitter who just lifts for fun, he doesn't have any real goal.
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>>37447829

Here's him benching during his preparation for the olympics though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9F_Db2jsw7c
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>>37447862
You literally already posted that vid.

It's just a strength phase you dumby.
Not a core lift.

Why don't you kill yourself?
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So my friend reccomended tthis assistance excercise for snatches... I have no fucking clue what the fuck he means and he wouldn't describe it and just said "ask online"

He saim something like "Snatch grip squat snatches, hook grip, yes feet". What the fuck is he on about?
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>>37448020

No one is arguing it's a core lift.
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>>37448043

sounds like a meme victim
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>>37448043
He's telling you to snatch more
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>>37448049
You are.

And you literally just added that text yo ufucknig meme liar.
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>>37448067

>You are.

No I'm not. I've never said bench pressing is a core lift to weightlifting.
All I'm arguing is that Klokov did and still does bench press.
It was obviously never the big focus of his training, but he did do it even back when he was a competitive weightlifter.

And the text is not added, you can watch for yourself https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vki1jhdWt2A
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>>37448132
I just watched all of it, it's not in there.
Where in the video is it? Huh? Huh? Huh?
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>>37448153

https://youtu.be/vki1jhdWt2A?t=39m33s
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>>37445109
Lbs or kg? If lbs you're not strong enough
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>>37448196
He literally says nothing of the sort. You are dumb. It was a false translation, everybody knows that. He meant PUSH PRESS, idiot.
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>>37448198
it said poundfs you fucking idot motherfuck
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>>37438603
speed work but other than that nbd
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>>37445109
>before cutting
You are very much beginner
Train hard to get strong while you learn the classics at a light-moderate weight.
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>>37448360

I know you're just baiting for fun, but his best push press is 225kg.

Also, you can clearly hear the interviewer say "Жим лёжa" (sounds kinda like zhim lozha), which is bench press in russian.
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>>37448529
No. It means PUSH PRESS. You speak Portugese and English. Not Russian lol. Did you get a frontal lobotomy cus of your ack basswards healthcare? Relax, damn.

And just because he did it on a vid doesn't mean it's his best lol.
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>>37446936
Well actual max, only ever had a projected max so ya im callin it a pr

And its like a 2.5 hr drive for me (london)
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>>37448730

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=%D0%96%D0%B8%D0%BC+%D0%BB%D1%91%D0%B6%D0%B0
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>>37448777
o ya I forgot you're in london damn sorry
i know a fat girl bitch who lives in london haha
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>>37449032
Wats her name probs dont know her but curious
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>all professional "athletes" are on steroids
>retarded kids on 4chan think they can be competitive natty

NICE SPORT
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>>37445109

>cutting
>ever

dumm.
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>>37445978
The only video I've seen his coach said that Lu and Liao Hui's maxes are both 210. Think it was an interview with ma strength or something
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>>37438603
keep your legs straight when you get all the way up.
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>>37451417
that fucking feel
Wasting my money senpai.

YEah its fun yadda yadda.
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>>37449992
shes brianna cacunto
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>>37448730
Zhim lyozha is benching
I speak russian, he also said he rarely benches because it tightens his shoulders
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newb here, I started doing cleans and doing about 120lb.

With that weight I'm not really squatting down to catch the bar, but from watching videos I see that with a heavy weight you catch the weight in a front squat.

How do I practice that part, or will it just happen when the weight gets heavy enough?

or should I start going down into a front squat with the light weight?
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>>37455002

you should practice it, you need to learn the positions
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Hey /owg/ I got a question about the starting position for Olympic lifts. Whenever I try to keep my hips down during a deadlift they always shoot up too fast and sources tell me that's because it's not the natural starting position for my limb lengths. Rippetoe says everyones deadlifts looks different for everyone. How am I meant to keep my hips down if it's not a natural position for me? Seems like a mechanical disadvantage.
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>>37455002
Pull under, git under quick. Practice doing it with light weight, don't catch and ride (but it's better to catch and ride than just power it).

It takes a lot less energy to pull a weight and catch it low in a squat and stand back up with it, even if it's light (e.g. below what you can power clean)
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>>37455592

the first pull of a snatch or clean exists to get the bar past your knees, to an advantageous position. It's not a deadlift, so the same thought doesn't apply.
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>>37455592

Hip height during the pull depends on the amount of weight you're using.

If you put the bar on the ground and try to deadlift it from an ATG stance you'll see you can do it easily.
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Why did I ever start this shit man.
Honestly, I don't feel like roiding.

Yet everytime I watch a lifter or two I get inspired to lift again and end up wasting more money on this stupid gym. Its not like my numbers were bad either
at 77kg I could snatch 115kg and I dont know my max c&j
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>>37455002

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLGYKQZg-b1FaJbNrQrwYXkP0BVDKdTpPy

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLGYKQZg-b1FYhl4P8OnCd_C2v2tjOC55X
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>>37454999
Make trappy aware
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>>37455669
Your hip height shouldn't change in the snatch and clean and should be the same with the bar or your max
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>>37456380

Because your clean and snatch maxes are not very close to your (theoretical in case you don't actually train it) deadlift max.

Which goes back to my point, hip height during the pull depends on the amount of weight you're using.
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>>37456494
We've been through this before so I dont want to start an argument, but in the context of this thread (Olympic weightlifting) if your doing pulls they should reflect your snatch and clean positionally
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1oVC9_qxl8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZgZem9fY58
Akkaev and aramnau are the only lifters that could beat ilya
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>>37456944
Now they don't have to ;^)
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>>37438603
beautiful lift my friend.
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>>37456982
Its not confirmed that hes busted yet but still... 5 olympic champions caught
Prepare to see weightlifting scrapped from the olympics
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