This article really worries me. Have we all been lifting in vain? All of those gains for nought?
>>37351904
>reading articles like this
>caring what women want
>can't think for themselves
Just ignore it. People don't lift for women. They lift for themselves. Gr8 b8, tho, senpai.
>>37351916
This.
There's nothing less attractive to a woman than a man who gives a shit what they think.
>>37351904
Unless you're roiding, you're not gonna look like that
>>37351916
>People don't lift for women. They lift for themselves.
You're the only survivor in a post apocalyptic world, how much do you care if your belt doesn't match your outfit?
You're objectively delusional and full of shit.
>>37351904
What is this fucking meme where you can't be smart if you lift
>>37351904
Yes. You have to be really delusional if you think girls are attracted to Rich Piana.
Google ideal male body according to women.
>>37351904
These are the same people who tried to make dadbods a thing. Why even waste your time on this. Seriously all of the people that write these articles are nu-males or fat women.
>>37351904
>Lifting for girls.
You are doing it wrong.
Either way, the pic you posted says that being mega jacked is unattractive while simply being fit is attractie, so I don't get why you are worried? You probably won't get awfully big without roids anyway. You don't do roids do you, Anon?
>>37351966
>implying stereotypes aren't at least partially true
>>37351966
>>37351904
The funny thing is that any physcial activity in excess of 30 minutes has been shown to increase brain function by more than 37 in individuals
>>37351998
37 percent
>>37352003
>>37351998
That was cardio.
>>37351959
Kek, What kind of argument is that? It totally defeats itself right out of the gate. How's that autism treating you?
>>37351904
Actually the person who wrote this article is pretty ignorant.
She (i guess it was a she {or some kind of beta male}) implies that all men are just lifting to get women, but seriously, do you really think the "scared little dude" Dwayne Johnson needs to be muscular to fuck hot girls? I think he lifts for other reasons than women and it's defininitelly not the fault of his "insecurity".
I think it's the same for many other people, so this person who wrote it should probably kill herself.
>>37351973
This. The ideal body irl is a hybrid of otter/athletic mode
>>37351998
'brain function'
please define your terms because this means nothing. Perform better on a test of cognition? More neural activity? What?
>>37351966
>It is indeed foolish, my dear Lucilius, and very unsuitable for a cultivated man, to work hard over developing the muscles and broadening the shoulders and strengthening the lungs. For although your heavy feeding produce good results and your sinews grow solid, you can never be a match, either in strength or in weight, for a first-class bull. Besides, by overloading the body with food you strangle the soul and render it less active. Accordingly, limit the flesh as much as possible, and allow free play to the spirit. 3. Many inconveniences beset those who devote themselves to such pursuits. In the first place, they have their exercises, at which they must work and waste their life-force and render it less fit to bear a strain or the severer studies. Second, their keen edge is dulled by heavy eating. Besides, they must take orders from slaves of the vilest stamp, – men who alternate between the oil-flask[1] and the flagon, whose day passes satisfactorily if they have got up a good perspiration and quaffed, to make good what they have lost in sweat, huge draughts of liquor which will sink deeper because of their fasting. Drinking and sweating, – it's the life of a dyspeptic!
>>37352018
lifting also improves brain function
>>37352027
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-athletes-way/201409/why-is-physical-activity-so-good-your-brain
All of the above except for short term memory iirc, I dont have the study or book I got the exact data from.
>>37352027
You can only uses 30% of your brain's full capacity, when you bench press 2 plates you unlock another 5%. Any more than that and you start getting super powers. I heard that in my japanese anime.
>>37352029
Seneca was a DYEL pussy who probably got bullied by bigger kids when he was younger
>>37352027
nice post reddit
>>37352029
>you can never be a match, either in strength or in weight, for a first-class bull.
>>37352046
nice meme except the affect of exercise on the brain is actually in peer reviewed studies
>>37351904
I'm not The Rock tier by any means, but I'm pretty pumped.
I've seen girls mirin my sweet gainz over and over. They indeed tell that "they don't like jacked guys", but they get wet anyway.
In the worst case it gives you a good first impression. What you later make of it only has to do with your personality and confidence.
>>37352063
Still not as peer reviewed as your mom's vagina.
Do i look like i lift for women?
>>37351904
Also women don't know what they want
>>37352081
You don't look like you lift.
>>37352081
you look like you chug beers everyday at the local pub, thats about it m8
>>37352081
Yes, in the 5-12 year old range.
>>37352081
You look like a brown haired Randy Marsh
>>37352068
Exactly this. Every girl I've slept with has said they usually hate muscular men but somehow I'm "the exception". Don't believe their shit, they love muscle.
>>37352029
seneca also got cucked by nero and believed that all the blood in your body came from the liver
>>37351904
>Human protein shake
Wait...i thought that was a nickname for cum...
That doesnt fit in there
>>37352112
>implying stoics care about getting cucked
It's like throwing apples at a tank
>'No,' he says, 'but my brother's poor wife was carried off.'
>It is a great gain to be robbed of an adulterous wife.
>>37352081
Shave that fucking moustace ASAP...
>>37352063
It is though, but that shit article and their definition of "brain function" is retarded. However, aerobic (and in some studies anaerobic) exercise has been shown to promote adult neurogenesis, slow down the death of neurons in the hippocampus and increase brain plasticity.
Also, physical exercise is thought to have antidepressive features by reducing the effects or production of cortisol. Basically, the old adage of "Chill the fuck out and exercise every now and again, don't remove physicality from your life or you'll hang" is true, but now there's documented evidence of it along with possible mechanisms of how it works.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4064273/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3896879/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3990369/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4064707/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1724404/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3041121/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3567313/
Keep in mind, almost all of these studies except for one (if I remember correctly) deal with the effects of aerobic exercise.
Anaerobic exercise is thought to have at least some of the same effects, along with the fact that high intensity work doesn't cause the secretion of cortisol to the extent anaerobic exercise does (a difference of about 20-25%)
http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2FBF00357593
http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/BF00441300
(Paywall but conclusion is in the summary)
Yes, yes I do have autism.
>>37351904
>doing more than a light cycle of test and making yourself into a mass monster will turn off some women
wow i've never heard of this before, thanks op for enlightening me
>>37351904
>and that is what women really see when they see juiced biceps
>A scared little dude who can't think for himself
Yeah, I'm sure when women see alphas they say, "Gosh, I bet he's only exercises because he's insecure about himself!"
>>37351916
//thread
>>37352081
Dosent look like you lift at all
As if Dwayne Johnson doesn't soak up panties on every woman he laid his eye on. Don't take these shitty articles serious.
>>37351966
Some retards think that life is like an RPG where you can only allocate a certain amount of points in qualities and abilities. It's usually a coping mechanism
>implying this and all the other bullshit like dad bodies being 'attractive' is not just girls being insecure
>implying it hasn't been shown time and time again that despite saying this shit, girls will fuck the huge guy.
>>37352772
He's ugly as shit.
>>37352818
>>37351904
Then they post a pic of The Rock with this article. Do you know how many bitches I know that wouldn't shut the fuck up about how "sexy his big strong arms are" at work yesterday? Fucking all of them. Even the gay dude was with them agreeing. Which makes me wonder what insecure man or hamplanet wrote this article
>>37352788
Fucking min-maxing.
>>37352840
More likely a fat cunt that can't get ripped man.
>>37351904
Chicks get confused they don't know the types of male bodies and what they actually want.
What most of them actually don't like is Mr Olympia sized guys at super low bodyfat. The Rock's body is still 100% getting them all off.
>>37352081
You look like a gou who'd browse "the Art of Manliness". In other words : you look like a nu male who's trying to compensate his lack of masculinity. But hey, you're lifting and you're trying to improve yourself, you aren't that bad.
>>37351904
if that article isn't back by a study i don't give a single fuck about Buzzfeed's bizarre perception of reality
>>37352772
That's because he's a handsome millionaire movie star. Protip: way more girls fawn over people like One Direction and Loki from Thor.
you guys are autistic, theres a woman for most body types, some like hench ass guys others while others like skinny guys, it all depends on the woman. That being said it is culturally accepted that men with at least some muscle are seen as more attractive, how much? That is subjective. Its more about your face anyway
>>37352888
Young girls do. Young girls are attracted to skinny guys because their male peers are also skinny.
>>37352101
under rated
>>37352936
>99% of the population doesn't lift
>women are around non lifters all the time
>women are attracted to non lifters
>>37351904
Only roid freak female bodybuilders like huge muscles on a man.
Everyone knows this, it's nothing new.
>>37351904
This is the woman who wrote the article.
>>37353008
she looks possessed by the demons of feminism
>>37353008
She looks like the type of girl that only dates closeted fags.
>>37351904
>girls ever answering a direct question in a way that might make people think that they're shallow
Great study bud.
>>37353008
>those pitch black holes where her eyes should be
Modern women are fucking terrifying.
>>37353008
Like this girl has her shit together. She can't even dedicate herself to maintaining a different hair color.
>>37352029
>For although your heavy feeding produce good results and your sinews grow solid, you can never be a match, either in strength or in weight, for a first-class bull
Or a well placed pipebomb tbqh
>>37351904
>women in charge of saying what women want.
They say they dont like super jacked guys because they dont want to look like whores to other women.
Women have varied opinions, and there is no standard. lists like these are retarded.
>>37353141
It's kind of like that documentary where the guy with the micropenis goes around looking at penis enlargement surgeries and shit, where there's the one scene where the girls talk about and sculpt their ideal penises out of clay. Everything they talked about was, "oh yea, I really like average" but then the penises they made were all thick, 7" cocks.
>>37353141
amen
modern society hates the "man". They want to turn men into pussy boys who thinks serving a woman's emotional needs is the way to her heart.
The men they cannot convert, they demonise.
>>37351941
you are damn right!
>>37351904
>Still fitting through doorways
>2016
COME ON
>>37353173
lol sauce pls?
>>37353041
A perfect fit for /fit/.
>>37351904
This is the equivalent of those guys who say "I don't like Victoria's Secret models or swimsuit models, they're too skinny" when you know that he goes home and faps to their pictures. Sour grapes.
"Too jacked" for women is impossible to obtain without serious chemical assistance.
>>37353271
http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/my-penis-and-everyone-elses/
At around 13 minutes they're making their ideal dicks, talking like bitches. 14:30 is where he hits them with some truth, and they all backpedal so hard.
>>37353422
thanks man this is gonna be fun to watch
>>37351916
i don't lift for myself. i lift to intimidate other guys around me. even more so if they're manlets.
>>37353466
>being this much of an insecure beta shit
wew you look so strong anon
>>37351904
The article has some truth to it.
Obviously become too jacked will turn off a lot of girls, although they will still prefer it over a fatty.
The sweet spot ofcourse is ripped/athletic
>>37351938
This. Girls don't want someone who's actively trying to please them. They want to wrangle in someone who's doing good for themselves, ride their coattails, and convince the man to pamper them.
There's more thrill in chasing someone than there is in accepting some guy that just bends down immediately.
>>37351941
fuckk of the rock is natty he eats lots of cod that's why hes so jacked. its those fish proteins
>>37351984
RIP
>>37352265
saving for future use
>>37353558
>i want to be faster than a train
>>37351904
I dunno im pretty fucking jacked. More jacked then most guys in the gym and i get chicks that lick their lips at me daily.
I tell my family members about how women literally everywhere i go eye fuck me and make lude comments. They didnt believe me. Gave my the old "yeaahh, sure they do". I go out with them one day and by the end everyone is making jokes how everyfucking chick wants me. Down to "even the old 70 year old lady wants to give you her number"
This article was probably writtwn by aome limp wrist faggot with no first hand experience of random chicks pitching your ass while buying your groceries or random milfs leaving phone numbers stuck to your car window. Iv hand entire doctor office receptionist going ape shit crazy over me "omg check this guy out!" The fucking managment had to twll thw ladies tom"simmer down now"
I shit you not the dedication iv put into building muscle has amazing results on hiw women view you.
Problem is this is just a firts apperance thing. Most of these women no nothing about me and wouldnt last in a relationship for very long simply because were far to different.
>>37353510
>the rocks natty
A. Who cares
B. No he isnt
>>37353609
>He grabbed his nuts and did it
>>37353609
anon pls
>>37353609
>>37353558
>I want to die from training
>>37353683
Can you post a pic of your body? I'm curious what level I need to get to for this to happen
>>37353730
Fuck off if you know me
>>37353750
Shit damn man great body. I'm years away from that. I don't know you.
>>37353750
Slightly old picture but i have a bunch of nudes, faceshots, and not gonna post that shit
>>37352849
>mfw my dex/int build gets shit on by pure str builds in pvp
>>37353488
>being this much of an insecure beta shit
yeah everyone is pretty insecure when they see my vascular arms.
>>37351998
>37 brain functions
>>37351904
This article is either written by a man who wants to keep you down or a woman who really wants to keep you down
>>37353466
That is literally lifting for yourself. Man you're dumb.
>>37353422
>talking like bitches
You werent kidding, holy shit
>>37354120
>woman who really wants to keep you down
Most of them do so this is more likely, plus we have seen the "author" earlier in the thread so it is a chick
>>37353683
>No nothing about me
>>37353466
>implying a manlet cant kick your ass
>>37353750
how big are your testicles?
As a testament to the author's writing ability, this was also on the same list
>Wolf whistling
No one does that anymore.
>yelling something from your car
Only niggers do this.
>White knighting
Ok they actually got this one right.
I tried to go on but damn that was hard.
>>37353506
As an older anon with lots of experience, this rings true. This is also the only important take home message from the entire 'red pill' camp.
Side note, all women love muscles but fatties love to write articles like this laboring to extreme lengths to explain why they're totally not upset that they can't get a fit man. In case you guys can't see it, this is a carbon copy of the 'sour grapes' story from hundreds of years ago. People have the same weaknesses today that they did back then. Extra points for recognizing the projection of insecurity onto the object of her desire. Insecurity is precisely the emotion that drives her to denigrate the body builder.
>>37352977
>68% of men are overweight or obese
>Women must only be attracted to overweight men
Your logic is pretty bad
>>37351904
>being fit is good, as are the physical benefits that often come with
I think all she's actually saying is that you don't need all eight scoops guys.
>>37354377
>this rings true
I got a question about this
Youre not supposed to approach them and be a try hard but how are you supposed to get her then?
I mean, there is this girl i like lets say and we are on a casual base right now.
She has...i dont know whats a reasonable number but lets say 50 other guys trying to get her to date them
How do i get her to chase after me then? given that i cant chase her
>>37353683
>were far to different.
>>37354377
This is what the author looks like.
Not bad though...
>>37352788
It's true though, no one is perfect at everything. You give up some things for others
(Except maybe Chad, but he's playing with cheats on godmode so it doesn't count)
>>37354616
Physically not bad but if she's a whack job feminazi who gets #triggered whenever someone doesn't toe the line around her cult beliefs she'll still have problems finding an attractive man for more than one night. Even one night might be hard to do if you can't have a conversation about normal things. Maybe she is preachy about her veganism. Maybe she is preachy about every other goddamn fad she has latched on to. Maybe she always tries to be "one of the guys" and talks like a dudebro. Maybe she is just depressed and doesn't go out. There are a million ways you can look decent or even good and not find anyone.
>>37351904
>implying i lift for grills
>>37354616
Worst hair ever for her 5head
>>37352081
not with that dumbass mustache
>>37354570
You should be aggressive and open about your interest when you want her. There is a difference between supplicating and begging for scraps and being direct and bold. You want her because she's hot and cool, that's your reason. Weak men spend forever waiting for the right moment to ask her for the honor of taking her to dinner. A strong man will constantly escalate because he sees something he wants and he goes for it. The underlying idea here is that you have to value yourself. Weak men view female attention as a gift they don't deserve. Instead, you need to view this as something worthwhile for both of you. You're a great guy and she should be excited about the possibility of hooking up with you, just as you are with her. You are bringing something of value.
When you're with this girl you should try to make the conversation hint at sex, and be flirtatious and funny. Those other 50 guys are too pussy to openly do this. If you're at school or work with her and she responds at all to you then ask her to come out to a bar or something with you. That's clearly expressing your interest. Women hate making the first move even more than guys do but for the same reasons. Its embarrassing and shitty if the feeling isn't reciprocated, so don't leave any doubt in her mind. Of those 50 guys maybe 10 have the balls to actually approach her like this and she will chose from among them. What people mean by make her chase is more about keeping a little distance and mystery about yourself. Don't respond with overly long texts. Hint that you have an active and exciting life without her, or better yet, actually have an active and exciting life. This is about showing off your social status. Ideally you have a large group of attractive and successful friends who play sports, go to shows, go on trips, etc.
>>37354616
Well I was clearly wrong about her being fat but the reasoning about sour grapes still stands IMO. It's like a bunch of middle class guys standing around saying how impractical and expensive to maintain Ferraris are. As if that's the fucking reason they don't drive one.
Are you joking OP? Idk what website you got this off of but this seems like another facebook clickbait link article and we all know the women who run those are pushing 200 in weight.
>>37351966
I
It was a lie started by people who weren't very smart but also jealous of buff dudes. It's a coping mechanism. Notice how 'smart' people never seem to apply themselves and just live normal lives like everyone but act like they're superior cuz of their supposed intelligence? Meanwhile their idea of "reading" is all just fiction.
They think being geeky means being smart
>>37354758
That was actually very direct and helpful, answered all my questions clearly
Problem is in my mindset then, gotta focus on getting rid of that
Thank you
>>37352859
fat cunts who can't get men attempt to change the standard of beauty for women
this was almost certainly written by a marshmallow man
>>37351959
That would be even more reason to lift.
>>37351904
Women don't know what they want. Why would I care about a article redacted by a woman about objetive stuff that was only wrotten because she had to meet an article quota?
>>37351904
Another day, another excuse
>>37352081
That's pretty much what i would expect a tripfag to look.
>caring about what women think
>caring about what anyone thinks
leave humanity behind
>>37351916
>>37351916
>implying women know what they want
sho sho gains goblins!
>>37351904
Slightly bigger than ottermode master race.
Still dont care what women think. The only reason they say shit like this is because of envy. They know they will never be able to put in half as much work as big guys so their defence mechanism is "i dont even like big guys"
ITT: Gym rats try to justify their insecurity and DYELs try to pretend they're the ideal male
The simple fact of the matter is that women prefer naturally fit, lean and self-confident guys. Just like vitamins, most of /fit/ takes way too much under some retarded impression that more is better.
If you're trying to get more women then the gym should be 4th or 5th on your priority list. Becoming a successful, confident, skilled human with a wide group of social circles and abilities will get you laid. Working out will make you get laid 4 or 5% more often.
If you want to become a muscle bound freak for your own reasons go ahead, but don't expect it to win you any respect or credibility or attention from women. Most bodybuilders are perfectly aware of this and as always it's the DYELs and Gym Rats who don't have a fucking clue what they're talking about.
Girls like guys who are medium muscle. You've got to be a retard to think they're into guys who can't even wear normal suits or turn around because they look like a bull on steroids.
A suit really is the perfect measurement of whether you've gone too far.
Lifting to excess is the male equivalent of girls who go over the top with ass and lip injections which anyone who's not a mid 40s nigger finds completely unattractive.
Pic related is the goal for body development. Just the right amount of everything.
You CANNOT compensate for height, frame, or face with just having larger muscles (which is what I think most guys try to do), it'll actually make things worse and you'll be even more unattractive.
>>37351904
Since this is your first day on the internet, allow me to educate you on marketing and the demographics of Buzzfeed self help articles. The people who read "what women REALLY want" are nu male trash whose body is so devoid of testosterone women have been avoiding them all their life. They read articles on how to fix this, on how to get women under the pretense that they'll find motivation and turn their lives around, but in reality they just want to reassure themselves that they're fine just as they are. Therefore, authors of said article describe what they think the nu males are really like, i.e. not jacked, but funny and sensitive. Nu males read this and feel good, Buzzfeed continues to get clicks. Don't fall for it for even a second OP, its all marketing.
>i don't care what anyone thinks xD
Yes, you fucking do. On a level you're not aware of because you're too dumb, either that or you're just lying.
>>37355166
Why are you posting some model on roids and saying that you shouldn't get too big?
>>37351904
1. Unless you're using Steroids and all kinds of things AND you're genetically blessed for bodybuilding (Example: Arnie) you are NEVER going to be "super jacked" no matter how much you eat or lift. Anyone who's ever done anything about bodybuilding knows, it takes extreme effort and training to even grow your muscles a little bit.
2. "A scared little dude", Oh my god...This article was most likely written by a woman, or a fat or skinny dude. Women don't know what they want.
3. What I always say is: Everyone starts lifting for girls, no one keeps lifting for girls. If you are actually lifting for girls, that means you'd drop the weights the moment you get a gf. And that's ridiculous for someone who considers bodybuilding a passion, or even a hobby.
>>37355225
B T F O
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>>37355225
>implying this isn't achievable in less than 1 year natty from DYEL mode
I didn't say him specifically, I said that kind of body. You're a retard.
>>37355229
>Women don't know what they want.
True. This isn't even a meme or up for discussion. It's been proven, there are studies showing women say they care most about personality and not appearance but the findings show it isn't the case. That among other things.
It's just that women say one thing but really mean something else.. And I think that they don't want to be perceived as vain or some shit like that so they try their hardest to convince themselves they aren't attracted to body/face.
>>37355290
Go b8 people somewhere else.
Or if you're truly new and clueless (like half of /fit/ who can't stop giving their ignorant opinions) just shut up and keep lifting, you'll be facing the cold, hard reality at some point. If you haven't given up in the next few months that is.
>>37355295
Indeed. I love how these sorts of Buzzfeed shitty articles ALWAYS have models with 10/10 faces for these shitty posts.
Not a single guy who's actually nerdy or looks nerdy. Or like a guy with an average face who's averagely muscly.
It's always 10/10 face models with glasses, beards or muscles or whatnot. Girls, you don't love glasses guys, beardy guys or muscly guys. You just love those 10/10 face genes.
>>37352081
Do you follow art of manliness
>>37355331
Two can play at that game!
>New study shows guys like small breasts and an average face on girls, like the girl in the picture
>>37354616
>Not bad though...
>pic saturation and contrast set to 293482%
the only thing you can say about her looks is that she is white and doesnt have terrible scars, burns or other extreme stuff going on with her face
+she is flat
>>37355295
>that pic
"""introverted"""
>>37352081
The only difference I see is that in around maybe 8 months, you managed to gain an erection.
>>37355331
>>37355367
In general, attractive people are given a lot of leeway. Two people could be doing the exact same thing and be judged very differently because one is much more or less attractive.
Pic related happened to me. I used to be an autistic scrawny kid with acne, a shitty haircut. Fast forward a couple of years later with no acne, broad shoulders, muscles and now girls go "hahaha you really are a guy, aww, so typical" and never get disgusted/angry about what I do.
We judge people based on their attractiveness. It's not evil it's just the way it is. Many traits negatively show a lack of hygiene or willpower. Or just bad genes. And that makes us not want to interact with the person having said bad traits.
It's not always accurate but hey there's nothing evil about it but for some reason a lot of women can't accept that this is how we behave.
>>37353750
>i dunno im pretty fucking jacked
>that pic
top kek i love you /fit/
>>37355470
Not him but if you think that by normie's standards that isn't jacked you're delusional.
>>37351904
Women likes confident men.
Buff people are more confident.
So, that article is not wrong, is just not complete.
>>37355448
It's just nature.
People with better genes are given a leeway because they are the ones that society would preferably protect and let have offspring. Better genes, more chance to survive and further the human race etc. etc.
We are all animals who act like they aren't animals.
>>37351959
>angry grill being this self centered
Leave.
>>37355330
What the hell are you talking about, what opinions, what 'reality'? What's this fucking dramatic shit you dumb slut?
>meet up with tinder milf
>she tells me about her ex and that his bodybuilderesque muscles were disgusting
>start having sex
>she can't stop fondling my legs, ass and back
>tells me how she loves the outline of my mussels and drools at my adonis' belt
women don't know what they want desu
>>37355571
Prime example, he is disgusting because he is her ex and in order to mentally move on women need to make him "disgusting"
Women arent like the rest of us
>>37355571
Maybe he was massive, you're just in very good shape with good definition. He probably looked like a muscle golem. Wait, why were they in a relationship if she was disgusted by.. never mind your point is correct.
>>37351904
>lifting for women
You're the problem.
>>37355571
Half the time it's a shit test. The other half it's an outright lies.
She knows very well what she wants - they all do. What they want MOST OF ALL is social capital.
They know that for anything above working class, superficiality is frowned upon. So they'll say they dislike men that are the very definition of stereotypically attractive are 'disgusting.'
Then they'll get ploughed like a turnip field by those very same men half an hour later. They'll never admit it was because they were shredded - they'll always have some other bullshit excuse. 'Oh he was different, it was because...'
>>37351959
So let me get this straight, in order to find myself another person who might consider having sex with me, but will spend my money, possibly become fat and unattractive, constantly complain, fill up my house with tons of crap, force me to raise her kids, and completely destroy my life if this deal doesn't work out... I have to be, fit but not too big, smart but not too unbearable, sociable but not make her feel threatened, and have a successful career but can drop it at anytime for her.
And you're telling me I'm somehow an idiot if I don't readily agree to this proposition all for some white race continuation business?
>>37355595
Dude I'm like almost a certified woman hater, but even I have to say, men do the "talk shit about ex" thing as well. It's just coping with break-up.
But yeah, women don't know what they want. They always say the same "personality blah blah blah" bullshit, but all it takes is an attractive face + any kind of body, or average face + attractive body.
>>37352029
>muh stoicism
retards
There is such a thing as too big, obviously. If you are a roided up muscle freak nobody is gonna like you. Stay natty and you'll be fine.
>>37355725
did you reply to the wrong post
>>37355736
>It's just coping with break-up.
I dont hate my ex even though i have good reason to as she fucked up my education and made me homeless, i know many other guys who dont hate their exes aswell
I know this is a "natural" thing to do however so my anecdotal evidence proves little, but i feel like women rationalize much more:
Guys would say "I hate my ex, she was a bitch because she nagged me"
Girls say "I hate bodybuilders, they are digusting. Like my ex"
>>37355712
i'd disagree. None of us really started out to get girls, but we all noticed somewhere down the line that girls are starting to pay more attention to us now that we are /fit/.
>lifting for women
>thinking women know what they want
Come on guys.
>>37355829
Oh. If you mean it like that, it makes sense. The "I hate all guys who are *something*, like my asshole ex." phrase sounds quite familiar.
>>37355846
>None of us really started out to get girls
haha right that would be so stupid haha
>>37355846
>we all noticed somewhere down the line that girls are starting to pay more attention to us now that we are /fit/.
My turn to disagree, ive found that i had better luck with women before i was /fit/
Maybe a side effect of getting older, i dont know
>>37351904
Girl here, this is true to some extent. If you project yourself as a very 2d person with one interest, which is aesthetics, and a shitty negative attitude, that's how girls will see and treat you. It's like seeing a girl who is caked in makeup and you know devotes hours a day watching makeup tutorials on Youtube instead of bettering herself in other ways. Neither of you recognizes a suffering human being behind that, someone who is lonely and empty and just wants to be recognized, you just see shallow people who only care about appearances.
People are more complex than the way they present, everyone is a story. Sometimes beautiful girls become really shitty people because they're always seen as their appearances and idolized, never actually seen. Sometimes guys become shitty people because they feel very alone, like nothing they accomplish in life will get the respect it deserves when other people get it so easily, and so they also feel like they are never seen.
Tangent aside, it's perfectly acceptable to lift and it does make you look better. As long as you make a point of having other hobbies and present as a generally well rounded person, you will find companionship. And you will be admired for your physical fitness by your girlfriend, especially if you have a quiet humility about it. It's equivalent to a beautiful girl with an amazing body that dresses reasonably and doesn't make fun of other people. Be that person. You can have power and feel empty, or you can feel very sad sometimes when people let you down, but have true relationships and believe in people and give them second chances and give them the opportunity to be better people as well.
>>37352029
Seneca was a chump-change mother fucker compared to Marcus Aurelius and he talked about being fit all the time.
>why lift when you will never be as strong as a bull
that's not even stoicism, that's just cynicism. Why do anything when someone out there will always be more attractive, smarter, stronger or more quick than you? Hell, why let the soul "run free', as Seneca put it, if someone else can let their soul run free more efficiently than you?
>>37351916
You don't listen to women because women never know what they want.
End of story.
>>37355974
How old are you? Unless you're 50 or something women are mostly quite interested in older men.
>>37352265
Good stuff anon
>>37355846
Well this is where you're very wrong.
>most of fit doesn't lift for men
>>37353008
I would do bad things to her
>>37356126
im 28, kind of feels like the dating pool has dried up for some reason because i cant find girls. Most around my age or younger are taken already or just...horrible dating material and im not subjecting myself to that shit (again)
I thought girls were supposed to like older guys but im wondering if thats really true...
>>37352818
Uh, he is past his prime but he isn't ugly unless by ugly, you mean jacked. "Focus!"
>>37353008
>That jaw line
Is that a man?
>>37356256
Maybe you are just having bad luck with girls or you may have aged badly, I dunno. As a 21 year old guy who still looks like a teenager I am desperately waiting to start looking a bit older. I'd be completely fucked if I didn't have a decent beard.
>>37355361
I see what you did there.
>>37352081
Those pictures were taken on the same day. In the before pic his shoulders are pulled so far back his shoulder blades are almost touching
>>37356343
>one has a beard but no moustache
>other has no beard but a moustache
How the fuck is he gonna do that
>>37356311
Where do you live? A major city or a bumb fuck town?
>>37356311
No ive aged quite well so its not that.
Im guessing bad luck is all, ive havent been exploring all options if i put it that way
Still havent gone out, tried tinder or any online dating set. Ive tried to meet girls the "natural" way but shit aint happening
>LIFTING
>FOR
>GIRLS
>>37356368
he has a beard in the moustache pic. It's just harder to see because his head isn't tilted back in a bizarre mating display.
>>37351904
I lift to make other guys salty not to impress pussy.
>>37351959
The implication here is that everyone lifts for aesthetics. It's stupid and asinine. I look like shit and have 16% bodyfat, but I'm strong as fuck and feel really good. I dress like a homeless person (except work) and I probably generally don't smell that good.
And honestly I would lift, run, and swim even if I was the last human alive.
>>37356555
When a girl with a bf eyes you up from a distance and looks back at her bf with disappointment. That is an exquisite feeling.
>>37355290
Post pic of self, DYEL
>>37351959
>this irrelevant word salad is the extent of female thinking
Oh I am laffin
>>37356256
I'm 26 and I seriously won't date girls my age. I usually date girls between 18 and 20. It's like the sweet spot where they're not completely used up, and they haven't hit the 22 - 23 year old "liberated woman" age when they've been in 12 gangbangs and swallowed my cum than a pornstar.
>>37356746
What the fuck, that's creepy young
I'm 22 and even I think 18 is a bitch sketchy
>>37356746
14 year olds are even less likely to be used up cum drinking sluts
>>37353008
>>37356881
you're 22 and think 18 is young? Lol wtf
>>37356890
Yeah, I'm not a pedophile though so...
If you AREN'T lifting to impress girls, what are you doing it for?
To impress men?
>>37351904
do you ask a fish how to catch itself?
>>37356746
yeah i mean the youngest ive considered was 17 (its legal here) because...it feels easier
Not easier as in you dont have to work for it but less drama, might be higher risk of flaking but shit id take that any day
perks are endless
>>37356881
>being attracted to women in their prime is creepy
gtfo
>>37356678
why the fuck would you think a woman would argue this you clueless fuck
>>37356914
>To impress men?
No. I need to make other men feel inadequate.
>>37356911
So if it were legal then you'd Fuck the shit outta those 12 year olds.
Got it.
>>37356967
Absolutely not. Way to make assumptions there.
A woman loves a man who loves himself.
>>37356911
Honestly yes
I don't like talking to 18 year olds because it's like talking to a child.
19-21 is my golden range because they've had some experience with the adult life and usually have at least some higher education as well
>>37357030
When I was around 18 - 22, girls my age always seemed retarded. But as I've gotten older, it seems the girls my age (26) act like giant children and the younger girls act more mature. It's almost like women will act more normal if they're with a guy that's older than them.
>>37356998
You made yourself abundantly clear that your most important factor when deciding if a girl is right for you is The likelihood that she's had sex with multiple dudes. I don't know many ten year olds that engage in orgies.
>>37357063
They do. It can be annoying when they try too hard though.
>>37357079
Well I'm sure a German Shepherd hasn't had sex with multiple men either but I'm not trying to fuck a canine. You're just making assumptions that fit your idea of labeling me a pedophile, which I'm not. I like women of legal age that have a wholesome background. Being attracted to 18 - 20 year old women makes you a pedophile now? Glad you're not the one making the laws in my country lol. Have a good day, bud.
>>37355225
>roids
Nah senpai-tachi it's just PhotoShop
>>37351904
Silly anon, women don't mind when we MEN get jacked as fuck they think it's pathetic when you manlets get ripped to cover up that insecurity of yours.
>>37356967
Age is different for every girl. You can't set an arbitrary threshold.The main thing is to never be in a position of authority over the girl. This goes for all ages.
>>37355846
I started lifting for girls, but /fit/ made me realize that men are just superior in every aspect
>>37351904
99% of women prefer pic related > rich piana. How could you think otherwise?
>>37357276
Well, Rich and a few genetic mistakes are the only ones that look like that.
Rich is hardly what comes to mind when you hear some girl say "ew I'd never want a guy who gets too muscly that's gross."
Do you need anything more then a set of adjustable dumbbells and adjustable bench to get a full body workout for a home gym?
>>37357653
Are you lost?
>>37351904
>what women really see when they see juiced biceps: a scared little dude who can't think for himself
This is unfortunately true. I have no personal experience given that I'm a fat fuck, but girls have pretty low opinions of the most jacked guys. They prefer minimal amounts of body fat, but also don't care for much beyond merely toned muscle.
There's a reason why on tumblr, the most popular male isn't Thor, Tony, or even Cap. It's fucking Loki.
>>37357849
*Male in Marvel movies
If it wasn't entirely obvious what I was referring to.
>>37357849
>toned
OP PLEASE LISTEN
Just lift to a healthy degree, eat healthy, sleep healthy etc. DON'T let lifting become your life, just view it as a little side thought that helps you look and feel better
Don't overcompensate for autismo
>>37355295
This could actually be legit if the list goes like this:
>six body parts
>and he can act totally extraverted when he needs to, he just does it rarely (and I will change him so he does it more often)
>>37356881
Lol what? I'm 27 and I fuck 18 year olds. It's the best. They think you have your shit together even though you know that you don't. I can't wait to be even older and do the same.
>>37353609
kekd
>>37358384
>I can't wait to be even older
Take your time, it'll happen eventually anyway
>>37358274
piss off faggot, you sound like a woman.
>>37356033
Yeah guys definitely don't want girls who care too much about looking good you retarded trollop
>>37351904
So many women I know think the rock is hot as fuck though, so this article is stupid
>>37356066
god almighty will you autistic faggots stop talking about the same six books all the fucking time, we get it, you didn't have a strong male role model so you have to buy the "how to be alpha" starter pack
you fucks somehow reduce simple things like masculinity to a sperglord hivemind
>this is how women perceive you
>>37353558
Ironic considering he died from undertraining
>>37351904
no
you're just a bitch that lifts for girls, that's all
>>37351904
> lifting for women
>>37351904
Are you kidding me I love jacked bodies, it shows dedication and it's really attractive
>>37359077
Gtfo trip
>>37359192
gtfo skelly
if you're natty you'll never be able to get super jacked anyway.
all i have ever had is compliments from girls on my body. the current fwb likes to sit on my glutes and feel my back.
>>37359326
>implying anyone here is actually natty
>>37359349
that .gif is terrifying
its not about muscles. its because the kind of gymbro dudes always have unattractive personalities.
take for example the man bun. 3 years ago no one gave a fuck about them. now they get panties wet because men who are attractive in the first place started getting them ie fashionable/cool people. (not really relevant now cause everyone has one but i digress)
its the same with lifting. what that article is really referring to is the kind of guy who wears singlets, posts vids of himself benching on instagram, drinks protein shakes and basically had an unattractive personality to begin with. couple that with the fact that most amateur bodybuilders of this type have bad posture (flexed biceps, inwardly turned shoulders etc) and you've got yourself a guy who is a visual warning to women.
trust me, if you don't make yourself part of the jeff seid-esque lifting crowd and go for the typical biceps and pecs look, and if you spend time developing your body properly (someone like young dolph lundgren springs to mind as an example) then your chances of getting women will improve drastically.
>>37351904
>Don't Get Jacked
>Don't Get Too Big
>Don't Do Roids
>Women consistently flicking it to roided, jacked actors in film and music videos
Listening to women is basically like listening to a lying child. Humor them and play along if you fancy, but don't fucking believe a word they say.
>>37351904
>thinking women know what they want
how do you even?
>>37359349
What you doing man? I'm in bed in the dark right now.
>>37351998
>Not increasing your brain function by 37
>>37351904
Listen youngbloods, in case some of you haven't figured this out yet, let me give you one of life's early pearls of wisdom:
> There's what women "say" they want and what they actually want. These are two different things.
Only lift for yourself. If you are lifting to get girls or respect or any other dumb shit like that then you are an insecure faggot.
I lift for health and for stress relief, I go fucking crazy with all the fucked up shit in the world, and I need to take it out on weights. Any other benefits are just bonus.
>>37358993
>>37355448
Yeah it's kinda like how if an attractive girl says she loves pizza, then all right cool. If a fat women does well god have mercy on her soul
>>37353750
>This is what looked like after year
>Dat Facebook angle/filter
>>37355166
>This is the goal
>Medium muscle
>But roids are badddd
Whew lad. That nigga is juiced as shit
>>37351904
No, this is just part of the liberal HAES master plan.
>"Make sure to run some news stories about how awesome plus sized models are. Oh, and while you're at it, run a story about how girls don't like buff guys."
>>37351904
You are JUST NOW figuring out that no one finds overroided, bodybuilding dipshits attractive?
I have a female friend who said she thought muscles were gross, saw her laptop wallpaper once and it was a picture of some shredded dude in a leather jacket.
Also an ex of mine said she like skinny guys but whenever I took my shirt off she would get wide-eyed and later told me I had ruined skinny guys for her
i dunno why girls say they don't muscles, but my observations have told me that they honestly do most of the time.
>>37351904
This article worry's beta cucks because it gives them an excuse to not get jacked and make it.
You know what type of person this article is talking about? That roided up, spiked hair gel, vascular but poor skin (because of roids) type overly proportioned dude who has the 6/10 gf because its clearly compensation for lack of personality or something else. No one loves someone who only loves themself, or is trying to be something else.
