Why are you still drinking aspartame, /fit/?
>Clinically proven to cause migraines
>Clinically proven to dull your ability to focus mentally
>Clinically proven to damage brain cells and nerve endings within the brain
>Dulls your sense of taste
>Actually increases your hunger, making it harder to lose weight
>Can contribute to bone loss/encourage osteoporosis
>Hampers your efforts to change your eating habits and make better dietary choices
>Increases your risk of diabetes
>Increase your tendency to store calories as bodyfat
>Can actually damage your kidneys
http://www.prevention.com/health/effects-of-diet-soda
Time for you to admit it: Diet sodas are BAD for you. Stop drinking them or you will NEVER make it.
So thats why I had throbbing headaches after switching to diet soda.
FUCK.
WHY CANT I JUST ENJOY A NICE COLD CARBONATED BEVERAGE WITH MY FUCKING BURGER REEEE
>tfw that one atrifical sweetner breaks down into chlorine
>people think its ok to drink a dozen diet sodas a day
>>37336291
There are a couple companies that make sodas sweetened with Stevia. Stevia has no side effects. Look for them. Or just wean yourself off sodas all the time and drink based WATER instead, save the sodas for a treat.
Is carbonated water ok then you bad news bear? Giving up on other shitty foods and smokes was easy but the liquid jew is so fucking good.
>>37336411
It's better for you than shitty aspartame
>>37336248
All of these are false, there is no genuine scientific research that shows any of it to be true but many studies that show them to be false.
"Aspartame" isn't a big evil sneaky "artificial chemical" created by the man to keep you down, it's a present in many "all-natural" foods as well.
Do some goddamn research.
I drink like 2-3 cups of diet coke a week. Is that a fine amount or should I just stop. It helps with the sugar cravings and I haven't noticed any of the side effects posted.
I only drink transparent things, such as:
>water
>vodka
>tequila
and white things such as
>cockroach juice
>human semen
>cow titty juice
>>37336435
cups of diet coke?
>>37336435
Stop believing credulous idiots like OP. Anti-aspartame is like anti-vaccinations. It's absurdity and non-science bundled into a baby-sized cult.
>>37336248
Literally none of those are clinically proven
>diet coke
>coke zero
why is there 2 different
why can coke have a light version like pepsi next
>>37336248
>WHY CANT I JUST ENJOY A NICE COLD CARBONATED BEVERAGE WITH MY FUCKING BURGER REEEE
You can.
>>37336428
>>37336451
>>37336453
'Denial' ain't just a river in Egypt, boys. Stop denying facts with your fake, soda-industry-funded 'studies': aspartame is bad for you, always has been, and now the truth is coming out.
>>37336469
Do you do this kind of idiotic trolling just because you know you'll catch so many gullible idiots?
Or are you actually a "believer" in your unscientific nonsense?
>>37336468
meant to
>>37336291
>>37336468
He said "nice"
Beer tastes horrible
>>37336480
Your brain is obviously suffering the effects of long-term aspartame usage, because if you read the article, there is plenty of research to indicate aspartame is bad for you. Which is 100% in line with the experiences of hundreds of thousands of people over the decades since aspartame's introduction. Stop spreading your lies, it's unhealthy, there are better alternatives, and it's time for aspartame to go away. NOTHING you can say will change my mind, OR the facts.
>>37336248
>Clinically proven to cause migraines
>[citation needed]
>Clinically proven to dull your ability to focus mentally
>[citation needed]
>Clinically proven to damage brain cells and nerve endings within the brain
>[citation needed]
>Dulls your sense of taste
>[citation needed]
>Actually increases your hunger, making it harder to lose weight
>[citation needed]
>Can contribute to bone loss/encourage osteoporosis
>[citation needed]
>Hampers your efforts to change your eating habits and make better dietary choices
>[citation needed]
>Increases your risk of diabetes
>[citation needed]
>Increase your tendency to store calories as bodyfat
>[citation needed]
>Can actually damage your kidneys
>[citation needed]
there. now get the fuck out of my board.
I don't buy into the whole "aspartame is evil and causes Alzheimer!" thing but whenever I eat something with aspartame, like sweetener, my stomach gets cramps and I get an headache.
Took me a while to realize the problem. So I avoid thing with aspartame.
My personal experience is my personal experience. If others feel no side-effects from aspartame, good for them.
>>37336597
They are all claims.
>>37336597
>he can't read the article provided
>>37336602
Yep. And the faggot trolls of /fit/ would have you guzzle the shit and tell you you're imagining it.
>kicked soda nearly completely
>still add sweetener and creamer to my coffee
>>37336647
>people that kick soda
>still drink all kinds of juice and Gatorade
>>37336674
but its JUICE its supposed to be healthy idiot
I can change to coca cola with stevia, but damn, aspartame, fenilananin and splenda have made enjoiable to drink a whole variety of delicious sodas like dr pepper, sprite and others...
>>37336864
You can have your sugary sodas and fuck up your health, or you can have your health. Your choice.
>>37336291
Every soda machine has a "soda" knob, like the water knob, tucked into one of the soda dispensers- usually the Sprite. Just drink soda water, it's delicious.
>>37336248
That's a nice click bait article you got there sempai
Did the sugar industry send you after the nutritional label change announcement?
>>37336906
>more denial
>>37336248
>>Dulls your sense of taste
shiet that might explain why mine has been weaker for a couple years now
still think it's all worth it for Pepsi Max
http://examine.com/faq/is-diet-soda-bad-for-you/
"There are no studies that indicate any long-term health risks from drinking diet soda. Diet Soda (defined as calorie free carbonated beverages sweetened with aspartame, sucralose, acesulfame-potassium, or other non-caloric or minimally caloric sweeteners) is not harmful to health, well-being, or body composition.[1]
There is no evidence that diet soda inhibits fat loss, or that it even spikes insulin levels to levels that would be detrimental to health.
Current research that attempts to link diet soda with health issues[2][3] did not have equal caloric consumption."
Quit being a dumbass.
Fatties don't know sucralose has to be added with glucose into drinks. Those 0 cal drinks are more like 4.999 cal per serving.
>>37336526
literally gayer than OP
>>37337466
>>37337507
what are you even saying
stop pretending to know what youre talking about
The only reason not to drink diet soda, or any soda for that matter, is because it fucks with your teeth. How you meant to pick up qt3.14's when you have a shit smile?
>>37337466
>paid shill for the soda industry
How much are they paying you, faggot?
Diet soda is clearly and objectively bad for you, the evidence is everywhere. Quit trying to mislead people with your lies.
>>37337524
Nigga I'm gay and that shit's retarded
>>37336616
there are no citations in your article dumb shit. it's just shit like "a study published by diabetes care says..." without any references.
>>37337606
charisma..
>>37336469
[CITATION NEEED]
>>37337671
All of your 'studies' are funded by the soda industry and as such are to be disregarded as horrbily biased. How much are they paying you to shill for them?
>>37337900
[CITATIONS, CITATIONS EVERYWHERE]
I don't have time to lead you around by the hand, little boy. Do your own goddamned research.
>>37337466
Dubs don't lie.
PRAISE KEK.
>>37336526
Underage spotted
Well fucking news flash amigo just about every thing on the face of this godly earth can and will kill you or be detrimental to you in some form. The ill affects in the long term are likely negligible compared to the benefit of reducing huge amounts of sugar in the diet.
Also personally when I occasionally have a soda I just go for the real deal, I don't see the need to pussy foot around when I'm cutting loose and having a treat.
>>37338130
Same, senpai. As long as you plan your caloric budget around it, it's not even that big of a deal.
>>37338130
It only takes a tiny amount of the poison called ricin to kill you and nothing will save you from it. Why risk your long-term health for a fucking soda? DRINK WATER, NIGGERS, and leave the chemical crap alone -- or drink a real sugar soda as a treat. You morons guzzling aspartame-laden shit are just fucking stupid. It doesn't take a genius to figure out that some shit made in a lab probably isn't going to be good for you compared to something that grew naturally and is actual foodstuffs, especially when so many people have the problems OP's article says it causes. How much more in denial can some of you be? Or do some of you have a deathwish?
>>37338345
ok bud i'm going to keep drinking diet soda and not experience any adverse health effects, like all current scientific evidence suggests
hope that doesn't trigger you too much
>>37338460
>and not experience any adverse health effects THAT I'M AWARE OF, NOT KNOWING THE DIFFERENCE
FTFY, idiot.
You know, you could bang some hot club slut this weekend, right? And 10 years down the road, when you develop full-blown AIDS, you'll wonder where you got it from. Same with aspartame; you might feel just fine now. 10 years from now, you'll wonder how it is that you've got glioblastoma brain cancer and are going to die. But sure, go guzzle your diet sodas. I don't know you and really DGAF if you kill yourself or not.
Oh, and you can trigger my cock into your mouth, faggot. I'm no goddamned SJW, I'm just trying to keep /fit/izens from poisoning themselves, unlike some of you.
>>37336372
This anon is correct. Disregard rest of thread.
>>37336248
Def can confirm that shit causes migraines.
>>37337912
I don't know why people like you even try to help these aspartame lovers. You can't help them because they will believe what they want to believe regardless of citation (consider how many times you've seen someone reply with "x isn't a credible source").
Let them drink their diet sodas, and if they stay healthy and smart, good for them, but if they die like dumb dogs to diabetes and such, that's even better.
>>37336449
Out of a 2l bottle and pouring roughly a cup of it into a glass. Are you retarded?
>>37336530
Provide proof. One peer reviewed journal article.
>>37338698
Sorry, I couldn't find any peer-reviewed articles on how your brain is obviously defective. XD Guess everyone will just have to accept the evidence of their own eyes, as you're very obviously retarded. XD Please do submit yourself to an 'institution' for study, though, peer-reviewed or not. XD XD XD
>>37336248
water is so fucking satisfying.
i don't know why i ever enjoyed soda
>>37338058
hur dur i pretend that beer tastes good so i can be cool
am i cool yet guys?
i saw a documentary where Jay Cutler said he drank like 2-3 gallons of diet sunny d with aspartame every day or something like that
hes not dead so im gonna just assume its safe
>>37336372
Yeah except they taste like shit such that you might as well just drink water
I always end up opening one and dumping 3/4 down the sink.
switched to unsweetened green tea
is aspartame in red bull? i have a red bull every once in awhile
>>37338936
>has never had a decent beer
You probably don't like coffee, either, unless it's drowned in sugar and cream or worse, flavorings.
Remember back when people said that cigarettes didn't cause cancer, and everyone smoked them?
:)
>>37336248
Yeah and vaccines cause autism.
>>37337912
We have done our own research. There are no peer reviewed academic or scientific studies that claim aspartame has negative health effects. Every article that talks shot about aspartame is a soccer mom blog.
>>37339009
>Every article that talks shot about aspartame is a soccer mom blog.
Yeah sure except for the NATIONAL PRINT PUBLICATION the OP linked to, that discusses research being done AND the DOCUMENTED negative effects of aspartame usage. They'd be sued if they were lying. All your 'studies' to the contrary are bought and paid for by the companies that produce aspartame and the soda industry.
How much are they paying you, faggot shill? Is it by the month or by the post? You make a nice living off of convincing people that poison isn't poison?
>>37336248
How fucking retarded do you have to be to drink diet soda in the first place?
If I want to drink something bad for me that ISN'T alcoholic, I'd prefer it not to taste like rancid hobo piss.
>>37339048
Put the article in a pastebin. I'm not clicking your click bait url.
>>37339100
>finds any lame ass excuse to avoid the truth
Enjoy being an ignorant ass
>>37339100
There are links to other things in that article, which by the way is from a nationally-published print magazine, IT IS NOT CLICKBAIT YOU IGNORANT FUCK, and I'm sure as fuck not going to sit here for the next two hours manually pasting a bunch of goddamned fucking links just because you're a lazy fuck, READ THE FUCKING ARTICLE YOU MONGOLOID
>>37339048
The only studies i could find giving any proof to your articles claim were from way before 1987...
Im not saying there is proof for either claims but seriously, we still need source
>>37336248
I don't understand how you people get used to drinking soda (diet or regular, doesn't matter) everyday. Parents who give their children soda instead of water have terrible parenting skills.
In my culture, soda is something you drink on someone's birthday or party. Maybe once a month. And no one is going to drink diet soda because what is the point? It's like having a fat free cheese pizza for your cheat meal.
>>37339133
>nationally-published print magazine,
Not the same guy
But its still a fucking MAGAZINE
its litterally full of "How to lose weight in XX days" crap!
There is very little scientific proof to be found there and just because they say its true doesnt mean it IS true
>>37338953
>tfw enjoy coffee but alcohol disgusts me
I even tried champagne and it made me retch.
>>37339133
> nationally published print magazine
You keep saying that but it doesnt make your source any less suspect. US Magazine is a national publication and it's full of bullshit. Ifor you refuse to put it in a paste in you are most likely shilling for clicks.
>>37339199
I was drinking 2l cola a day before i got /fit/ with 16. Thats normal here, most normies drink fruit juice cuz muh healthy fruits or ice tea the whole time, and thats a really dangerous trend. The biggest problem is the fruit juice, they basically advise it to parents as a healthy drink for kids, i get really mad whenever i see that. Took some time till my parents realized how bad all these drinks are
>>37339248
Ducking auto correct goddamn
>>37339241
I like most alcohol on the right occasion but champagne and bubbly wines have always been nasty to me. I really don't know why it's considered a drink for happy occasions and high class socialite women
>>37336248
>Clinically proven to cause migraines
The opposite has been studied and shown to be true
>Clinically proven to dull your ability to focus mentally
No it hasn't
>Clinically proven to damage brain cells and nerve endings within the brain
No it hasn't
>Dulls your sense of taste
Like every food it subtly alters your gut bacteria to prefer it and thus (indirectly) want to consume more of it. This is true of vegetables and salt and everything else.
>Actually increases your hunger, making it harder to lose weight
No it doesn't. Links to candida overgrowth have been selected as this years meme and have been shown to be mostly bullshit
>Can contribute to bone loss/encourage osteoporosis
That's the phosphoric acid, not sweetners, and only at extreme doses (several litres per day) over a long period of time
>Hampers your efforts to change your eating habits and make better dietary choices
Makes no sense
>Increases your risk of diabetes
No it doesn't. It also helps deal with insulin spikes traditionally seen in type 1 and 2 diabetes compared with sugar sweetened soft drinks, but that's obvious
>Increase your tendency to store calories as bodyfat
No it doesn't, otherwise it'd be a magic pill for survival and extreme sports
>Can actually damage your kidneys
No it doesn't
>>37336372
Granulated/treated stevia is on par with other sweeteners in terms of health, essentially making them comparable to sugar alcohols. Naturally boiled stevia leaves or unprocessed stevia actually benefits your health.
tl;dr make your own stevia
>>37336411
Sweeteners are fine, carbonated water is mildly acidic, but not enough to worry about unless you're drinking ridiculous amounts or doing something stupid
>>37336427
No it isn't
>>37336435
You should probably stop drinking soda out of a cup because that's weird. Otherwise you're perfectly fine.
>>37336457
Diet coke was brought out a few decades ago as part of a marketing campaign targeted at women...
>>37336457
..These days the health/fitness/weight loss markets are big enough that Coke Zero was developed with a more modern taste and marketed primarily for men. It's the new/male diet coke
>why can coke have a light version like pepsi next
They have several zero cal brands and a couple caffeine free ones
>>37336602
Again, probably the phosphoric acid from carbonation
>>37337507
While it's true that you can list <5 kcal as calorie free or sugar-free on labels, they're still included in the ingredients list.
>>37337606
Again, that's the phosphoric acid, not the soft drink specifically
>>37338597
>I'm scared of imaginary health problems that evidence shows doesn't exist and you should be too.
>Triggered about being told not to get triggered
Top kek
>>37338869
I can't tell whether you're a 12 year old or a poorly adjusted troll
>>37338936
>80% of the planet is wrong about taste and I'm the special snowflake
You don't like beer, we get it, stop pretending you're somehow right or unique.
>>37338944
Acesulfame K and Aspartame, both proven clinically safe hundreds of times
>>37338980
I remember when the tobacco industry marketed cigarettes as healthy. Fundamental difference.
>>37339048
>>37339133
Companies who make news from writing about stuff are more trustworthy than the medical and scientific communities using evidence and study
OP is intentionally ignoring the evidence and pasting things that agree with his made up belief. Nothing new here.
The worst part is that there are sweeteners which are genuinely bad for you and have been banned in most countries, but OP is singling out the single most studied and one of the safest available.
Blows my mind how ignorant some people chose to be.
>>37339462
>>37339341
Stop, he's already dead.
>>37339341
AIDF pls go
Im 6'/180
>Drink 6-12 cans of Pepsi Max a day
>own perfectly white teeth
>have a six pack
>bench 275x3
>graduate as a master of science in technology (?)
>according to Mensa tests IQ 128
I dont believe you, OP
ok but every health organisation in the world agrees its safe and has no real proven harmful effects.
so i think ill just keep drinking it
thanks.
>>37339341
Good show and thank you. Thank you very very much.
>>37336248
kek they don't even source half the claims
>And a 2013 animal study found that rats that drank diet soda had damaged cells and nerve endings in the cerebellum—the part of the brain responsible for motor skills.
>>durr guise it's >Clinically proven to damage brain cells and nerve endings within the brain
also, RATS
UNSPECIFIED AMOUNT
UNSPECIFIED SWEETENER
fuck off
>While you may have started drinking diet soda to facilitate weight loss, quitting it may actually do the trick. A recent 9-year study found older adults who drank diet soda continued to pack on belly fat.
unlike all the other older adults in america? also, no counfounding variables here right? can't be that the adults who feel the need to drink a soda replacement were big eaters in the first place?
>>37336248
>Now that your body no longer has to make sense of the unpronounceable ingredients in diet soda, your kidneys can get back to clearing toxins, stabilizing blood pressure, and absorbing minerals. One study looked at 11 years of data and found that women who drank 2 or more servings of diet soda doubled their chances of declining kidney function.
actually none of these seem to establish causality lmao
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>>37339596
> lipid hypotesis
I S S C I E N C E
BUT IL REJECT IT CUS MMM BAKON
More than the whole dispute, I'm astounded by how strongly people feel about this shit.
I mean seriously, who cares. Unless you drink two cans of soda every single day, no matter what the results of these studies are they will be irrelevant to you.
You could eat literally poison and it would do absolutely jackshit if you did so in moderation and the rest of your diet was good.
Nothing kills my cravings like pepsi max, worth the kiney failure imo
I thank God everyday for being able to put down, alcohol, tobacco, and soda. Been living this way for years, feels great.
if you can't drink the real deal you should just stick to water
>>37336616
>thinking an article with no citations of actual scientific research is credible
retake english 101 faggot
>>37336457
Diet coke is based on new coke
Coke zero is just regular old coke without sugar
I think i will limit the amount of zero beverages per week. That's all i got from all this thread.
>>37336248
please provide studies on a reputable site such as pubmed, please CITE the results found from the abstract and LINK them
we used to laugh at faggots like you when /fit/ still had people who still were able to distinguish academic research from witchcraft conspiracy theories
>>37341980
Oh look another shill in the pay of the soda/aspartame industry. Please, tell us how much you get paid? Is it by the post, or by the word? I'm curious as to the pay structure. Or do they pay in you diet soda? XD
You're as bad as the Vegans. You're ingesting chemical crap that has been proven over and over again to have negative neurological effects, your brain isn't working correctly just like Vegan brains don't work correctly due to amino acid deficiencies. Yet you cling desperately to the poisons that are ruining you.
LOL, not sure why I care. The intelligent /fit/izens are staying away from diet sodas, and are benefitting thereby. Meanwhile people like you are ruining yourselves and are in denial. Guess I'll have to call it 'evolution in action'. Enjoy your migraines and irreversible neurological damage! They're all you'll have.
>>37342970
We're all going to get cancer from the environment, what does it matter? Its clinically proven the food supply is fucked. Fish all contain mercury & land meats all contain hormones & antibiotics. Might as well enjoy life while it lasts.
>>37343018
With that attitude, why not just eat a bullet right now and be done with it? Will be less painful and quicker than dying from cancer. Or you can stop being a fatalistic faggot and actually plan on taking proper care of yourself.
>>37338936
>am i cool yet guys
no
>>37336372
>Stevia has no side effects.
Yeah, except for being estrogenic as fuck.
>proven
>proven
>proven
>implying hypotheses can be proven
And they say people who drink aspartame have brain problems.
>>37343868
Prove to me that all these 'studies' that everyone keeps talking about aren't paid for by the soda industry and the aspartame producers, then.
>you can't
Meanwhile prove to me that all the people who have legitimate health problems from aspartame, who had them go away when they stopped using aspartame, were just faking it, or experiencing placebo effects, or whatever?
>you can't
Finally you can't prove to ME that the negative health effects *I* experienced for YEARS because of aspartame, were all just in my head.
>really, you can't
..but by all means: Keep drinking your filthy chemical crap. When you're 40 and they tell you you have 3 months to live because of the glioblastomas in your brain, I'll just point and laugh. Meanwhile those of us who knew better will outlive you.
>>37336468
I don't now about him, but sometimes I like to get a burger and a Coke and pretend like it's the 50's.
Beer with a burger is superbowl food.
>>37343916
Seriously, are you guys drinking Budweiser or some such shit and thinking that's what 'beer' tastes like? No wonder you don't like it!
>>37343915
Actually that's called disproving, which actually is possible.
This is all covered in an intro to psych course, friend.
>>37343925
American lagers just contribute to the tone of an event.
>cookouts
>boating
>mowing the lawn
>sports events
>country parties in barns
That's what Budweiser is for. When I drink for taste I go with imperial stouts.
>>37343968
Ah, I see, psychology courses somehow stray into covering 'follow the money', so you can track down funding for bogus, biased scientific 'studies'?
Really, how much are you getting paid to shill for them? Come on, you're outed anyway, you're anonymous, you may as well tell us.
>>37344088
You know there's an interesting negative correlation between an individual's perception of being in control and an individual's perception of being controlled.
You should stop pursuing the things your family/peers assert that you should want and start pursuing the things you actually want.
>>37339462
>>37337595
All SPLENDA® Sweetener Products contain SPLENDA® Brand Sweetener, or sucralose, the sweetening ingredient that gives SPLENDA Sweetener Products the great taste people love without calories.
Like other no-calorie sweeteners on the market, SPLENDA® No Calorie Sweetener Packets and SPLENDA® No Calorie Sweetener Granulated products contain small amounts of carbohydrate (less than 1 gram per serving) to provide volume and texture. These common food ingredients are dextrose (packets) and maltodextrin (packets and granulated). These ingredients provide so few calories per serving that all SPLENDA® No Calorie Sweetener Products meet the Food and Drug Administration’s criteria for no-calorie foods (<5 calories/serving).
Anyone that takes Organic chemistry knows this shit.
>>37344207
Sucralose, the no-calorie sweetening ingredient in SPLENDA® No Calorie Sweetener, is about 600 times sweeter than sugar. Like other tabletop sweeteners, the granulated and packet products contain small amounts of carbohydrate (less than 1 gram per serving) for consistent sweetening and to provide volume. These bulking ingredients are dextrose (packets) and maltodextrin (packets and granulated). However, the bulking ingredients provide so few calories per serving that the FDA allows the SPLENDA® No Calorie Sweetener Products to be labeled no calorie sweeteners, because they provide less than five calories per serving.
>>37336248
I don't get headaches and am still losing weight all the while I'm drinking my orange soda like Kel and enjoying my rootbeer. muahahahahhahah suck it jew.
>>37344231
Sucralose has no caloric content, and Splenda products have a lower caloric content than sugar. The actual energy content of a single-serving (1 g packet) of Splenda is 3.36 kcal, 31% of those of a single-serving (2.8 g packet) of granulated sugar (10.8 kcal).[9] In the United States, it is legally labelled "zero calories";[9] U.S. FDA regulations allow this "if the food contains less than 5 Calories per reference amount customarily consumed and per labeled serving".[10] Further, Splenda contains a relatively small amount of sucralose, little of which is metabolized; virtually all of Splenda's caloric content derives from the dextrose or highly fluffed maltodextrin "bulking agents" that give Splenda its volume. Like other carbohydrates, dextrose and maltodextrin have 3.75 kcal per gram.
I'm trying to wean myself onto cordial.
At least it's 90% water.
>>37337901
They are still peer-reviewed, you fucking idiot.
>>37336248
My grandpa died of cancer. He also drank diet coke. How long is this is this poison going to allowed to remain on the store selves????
>>37344529
fuck off health police
take some responsibility
