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prev >>37324737
1st for degenerate
What kinda sub should I get brehs?
>>37331348
black one
Finally decided I'm going to jump on the fraud wagon after months of research and deliberation
The only concern I had was jumping on too early, but my diet and training are spot on and i have a good enough base to build from now.
Plus I'm willing to accept a life of needles.
>>37331379
>black one
Is that supposed to be some kind of cock joke?
Currently I am torn between Italian or just roast beef with swiss.
>>37331348
One that knows how to beg but is still a little feisty
Or a cold cut with meatballs add
My ex texted me at 3 in the am to state that she wished things stayed simple?
That is not even text worthy and things are simple you doofus. Things are always simple: I want, you don't. Simple.
I started cruising though. I feel angrier cruising than I did on tren.
>>37331404
Oh a sandwich, i thought you meant submissive.
Eh meatball with italian bread n stuff
>>37331426
>reply
Dont worry, you're pretty simple. It wont change.
and put your fucking trip back on, asshole
>>37331408
>One that knows how to beg but is still a little feisty
Wanna audition for the part?
>Or a cold cut with meatballs add
Add meatballs with the sauce and everything or just meatballs?
>>37331426
>I feel angrier cruising than I did on tren.
Check your estrogen levels
>>37331433
>Oh a sandwich, i thought you meant submissive.
>black one
As if I would ever dirty my glorious average white cock in some nigger pussy.
>>37331434
Upped AI.
>>37331433
Jerrbears duh I'm a Fucking idiot. You want an award anon?
>>37331455
>Upped AI.
So you are on less test and more AI? That sounds retarded. Your e2 is probably at 0 which is why you are so emotional and irritable.
In my First Cycle i Never want to go back
>>37331433
>>37331408
Plebs. The true answer here is smoked salmon with plenty of lettuce and some pine kernels and capers.
Also, if you like it, honey mustard dressing.
Obviously add rucola.
>>37331481
I had no idea nonmemefags wore shirts like that.
>>37331476
No I cruise at 300 test. I had been at 150 before my shoot.
>>37331455
>Jerrbears duh I'm a Fucking idiot. You want an award anon?
I wasnt calling you an idiot, i was telling you to call her one.
>>37331501
Now you do
>>37331515
See? Told you. I am mostly irritable that a text woke me at 3 am.
>>37331481
Looking slightly juicy breh
>>37331488
>Plebs. The true answer here is smoked salmon with plenty of lettuce and some pine kernels and capers.
>Also, if you like it, honey mustard dressing.
>Obviously add rucola.
Where can I try this crazy sandwich?>>37331514
>No I cruise at 300 test. I had been at 150 before my shoot.
You blast with tren and 150 test and then go up in test to a 300 cruise? Why?
Anyway just go get bloods and check your e2.
>>37331541
I normally never drop test that low. Mostly to zap water. I might check e2 or I could just munch more Adex.
>>37331481
Before and now
>>37331575
Lol what you running?
>>37331594
500mg Test e
>>37331594
dyel
>>37331476
>Using AI on a cruise
that's your problem right there pleb
>>37331575
you still havent gotten close to your natty potential senpai
>>37331655
does reaching your natty limit really matter? don't you just get there quicker?
>>37331655
>you still havent gotten close to your natty potential senpai
he didn't mention anything about his natty limit
>>37331745
>>37331714
Why roid when you basically still have your noob gains?
If you unmotivated natty you gonna be unmotivated enhanced
>>37331434
>wanna audition for the part
How much does it pay? I'm a class A actress
&if you want the sauce
I wouldn't
But bacon too if bulking
>>37331488
Salmon is for onto of rice not between bread we're gonna fued over this intoxicated I tell you whot
>>37331714
Well you might waste some time/money/resources or fuck your shit up if you don't know what you're doing diet/training wise but eh I'm not against people using them from the get go I did way back when
>>37331758
>Why roid when you basically still have your noob gains?
faster noob gains
After reading the last thread I realised how lucky I am that I never tried drugs cause I got a serious steroid addiction problem.
What once started as a 250mg e5d test developed into a full blown 1g test 500mg tren 30mg dbol IPA+mod blast and already considering upping the tren and adding deca.
I would od on heroin in probably less than 6month from now if I.start smoking.
On another note, 100-200deca per week is more than enough for tendons support right?
>>37331391
How old are you and how long have you been training?
>>37331823
Yeah, why not add hgh or mk 677 if you can't afford hgh
Brehs.
Everywhere on the internet and over here, i see guys using 23g(blue ones) for glute shots. I normally use 21g(green ones) for the glutes. I asked my gf to take a 23g from her school for comparison(see pic)
Those 23g(blue ones) are fucking tiny. How the fuck do your inject ass with those little fuckers, without injecting subcutaneously?
>>37331868
...
Gauge is the width
There's different lengths...
Also stop being a fatty, fatty
>>37331868
I use yellow to draw and blue to inject and the needle lengths are the same
>>37331868
the green one looks scary
>>37331868
Depends where you pin on the ass
>>37331868
i use 21 g 40 mm (green ones) for drawing and 25 g 25 mm (orange ones) for pinning
glutes, vg, quads all work with 25 mm 25 g
>>37331856
Honestly? No one I get my roids from in EU has that stuff. Since it's legal in USA but illegal in EU it's kinda fucked up to source it
>>37331856
hes already taking mod grf and ipamorelin so id say hes fine even without mk 677
>>37331907
I said yeah sounds fine, you could probably go with 300 and be fine though
Mk 677 is easily obtainable in Europe
I'm Danish, literally harshest customs in eu
>tfw not bf says there's a hot jap chick at booster juice you should convince to have a 3sum but you don't got yellow fever so you start questioning his taste
>>37331868
Can we have a pic of your gf again so ik what I'm competing with for dat jaw
>>37331879
oh i see kek. My ass is pretty thick indeed. I'am seeing subtle veins on my abs again, so i think i'am 11-12%
>>37331897
>>37331891
>>37331880
>>37331905
I never had any problem with the green ones, but i'am scared those blue ones are to tiny to reach my glute muscle
i pin right above in the glute area
>>37331950
Are they 5/8 or an inch
Inch i can stick p much wherever on my ass and hit the muscle
5/8 is too short unless delts or quads
>>37331855
21 and training for 2 years
>>37331541
>crazy
I make them weekly, and I can get them at plenty of places.
>>37331761
>rice
I'm not a chink.
>>37331868
There's long and short 23g.
I pin quads and Delts with 27g, but Delts is short and quads is long.
>>37331950
I have thick veins on my abs but I'm over 12 according to you all.
What's your routine and how many times a week do you hit the gym, fraudsters?
>>37332002
i just recently got oblique veins now that you mention it
looks p freaky
dont think im 10% yet tho, still lots of fat on legs and stomach
>>37331972
the green ones that i always use for glutes are;
0,8 x 40 mm, 21G x 1 1/2
blue ones are; 0,6 x 30 mm, 23G x 1 1/4
>>37331948
If you show a pic from you, i also show a pic from her
>>37331978
Not over here. It's all different length and girth kek
because you make pic with shitty lightning
>>37331948
Give me her number
>>37331950
Nothing wrong with a quality subq pin
>>37331605
are you serious?
Are you fucking serious?
>>37331605
Holy fuck you look absolutely shit despite having 5x the test levels of mine.
/fraud/ never change, complete failures apart from a few exceptions
>>37332020
I'm as pale as a vampire. I should get a tan. Haven't been out in the sun for over 15m in almost 6 months.
>tfw nocturnal.
What's a good starting dose for Adex while I'm running 150mg test e 450mg tren e
>>37332023
Persona Q. Yay or nay?
What etrian odyssey is best? Atlus sale atm.
>>37332013
Make your own routine, you should know what works for you on roids, and Ed
>>37331575
Don't listen to the haters you're both leaner and bigger than me
>>37332063
0mg
>>37332051
tan would make you more shredded and maybe a little big bigger.
but vein-wise it's no difference.
Although.. the heat will blow up your veins.
Best formule for veins;
1.carb cycle till 9% bf
2. drink green thea
3.on your carbday lay in the sun for 30 min
4. Watch your veins explode like crazy
>Cut out creatine this week.
>Go out drinking last night, just had three tallboys but felt bretty good.
>Piss like 6 times
When I got home I was shredded as fuck. Looked rediculous. Booze is god tier for cutting water. Still dont like that Im down 5lbs in bodyweight, but Im trying to remind myself its just water...
How can I cut water like that without killing my gains?
>>37332143
Dandelion root
>>37332174
Shit nigga I got that in my front yard
>>37331948
Fuck off I love a thicc slutty Asian
Just got this shit right here, do you think SS is better than PPL to put on mass?
>>37332065
I never got very into eo
So I skipped persona q too
>>37332247
Dancing all night?
Can someone help? Been doing psmf for a week, getting 0 carbs a day. I felt fine for the first 5 days or so, but today and yesterday I feel like complete shit and can barely move. I don't feel hungry, it's just I feel extremely unwell. I'm not supplementing with anything.
Any suggestions
>>37332346
You're supposed to get like 20g of carbs a day or something do your research faggot
>>37332393
i thought it was keep fat + carbs under 20g combined, and my chicken has 1g of fat per serving so I am just not eating carbs.
>>37332262
If you like rhythm games
>>37332346
Def need multivitamins n shit
>>37332346
I would suggest taking supplements like a fat burner with caffeine. That will give you a little boost. I use hydroxycut from muscletech.
And your body needs a time to adjust to this new diet of course. That can take 1,5-2 weeks imo
do you eat veggies?
>>37332446
>>do you eat veggies?
only thing i eat all day is grilled chicken
>>37332484
I dunno about psfm. I always carb cycle.
Eating broccoli, chicken, almonds and eggs ed. And 1 in the week i add carb with each meal. Really god-tier diet
brocolli is really negligible, carb-wise.
>>37332393
lyle mcdicks doesnt say anything about that in his book tho
>>37332346
>>37332484
you should be supplementing with
fish oil
multivitamin
vegetables (lots)
>>37332346
Amphetamines.
>>37331974
As long as you feel your ready and have done the proper research on how to use them then go for it, I started a little after I turned 19 but at that point I've been training for about 5yrs and researched the topic for about a year
>>37332780
yeah I feel I'm ready, my enthusiasm for the gym has made me able to justify the possibly hasty decision to abuse steroids. knowledge wise I know I'm ready and my training is consistently progressive.
what stage are you at now after starting at 19? any regrets?
>>37331575
Lol you should have waited 3 years before juicing.
Now you're going to hit a plateau sooner and you won't have anywhere to go from there.
>>37332928
Oh no, he reaches his max sooner.
>>37332928
>Now you're going to hit a plateau sooner and you won't have anywhere to go from there.
can you explain this more in detail
>>37333020
Solid explanation
10/10
Would read again
What's the issue with reaching your maximum natural limit quicker? Once you're there you're there no matter how you get there, right?
>>37332892
Well I just started my second cycle and I'm almost 20 so I haven't noticed anything yet but with my 1st cycle all I did was 500mg of test-e a week for 10 weeks so no I haven't seen any side effects from that cycle but if you feel your ready and you feel your ready to be consistent with your diet and workouts then go for it just be smart about it
>>37332425
>>37332663
>>37332675
http://www.holisticmd.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/ProteinSparingModifiedFast.pdf
>>37333104
How can you people start an extreme diet such as PSMF with no clue wtf you are doing?
>the same people who take DNP
>>37333104
i dont know who wrote that pdf but it clearly says 12 g of carbs, and those are just trace carbs
has anyone messed with ph's before running real gear? i took halodrol/h-drol when i was younger and became a walking boner for the first 3 weeks. gained 17lbs and kept 10lb. after a couple cycles of just test e im thinking of doing an h-drol test e cycle. i was thinking of buying tbol but hdrol is just so much cheaper. has anyone fucked with a ph/test cycle?
>>37332993
Steroids always have the greatest effect the first few times you do them.
By reaching your natty limit or at least closer to it, when you squeeze out your noob gains and when you've adapted to the type of training you have then you'll be able to juice and get even bigger before you need more and more steroids to elicit the same effects.
Gudhegdh. Tren and teenage girls wearing yoga pants and tight halter tops is a weird combination. It's gonna be a long summer.
>>37333219
Actually the opposite is true.
You have to be over 18 to post here.
>>37333205
if you call halodrol a "prohormone" then yeah ive done sdrol while on test so i guess that counts as a ph/test cycle
>>37333243
You must be new here
>>37333246
i dont know wether to call it a designer steroid or a ph.
>>37333219
>Steroids always have the greatest effect the first few times you do them.
Citation needed.
If anything it's the opposite. Using gear once something something more receptors. But as you get bigger you need more gear. Like you need more kcal once you get bigger.
>>37333295
well since its a steroid id call it a steroid
>>37333246
Designer steroid
>>37333219
Imo, it's that if you already had a solid base before you started, you know how to diet and train poperly. If you use that knowledge you build up during your natty years, you will have a big advantage from this when you will use gear.
Seriously, everyone who did this, looks fucking huge on gear.
Most people just inject stuff and hope for the best, because muhh magic
How long does it take you to start noticing the effects of test on average?
started my first cycle with 4 weeks of dbol 500/test a week and i'm now about 6 weeks in. Haven't noticed any improvements really after stopping the dbol.
Don't exactly think the gear would be bunk but at this point it's starting to cross my mind desu
>>37333315
then lets call it a steroid. what are the benefits from running something like that with a test base?
>>37333250
Lurk for 2 years before posting.
>>37333346
lol you feel feel test e in a week at least. yo shit bunk bruh
>>37333310
Explain how I went from 190 to 220 doing half a 50 mg of Adrol pill every other day and 500 mg of Sust and now I can do the exact same thing and not even feel the same?
Your receptors do reuptake and become more sensitive but I actually was reading that it's not just about receptors but also
Your bodies ability to maintain a positive nitrogen balance, which gets harder to do when your body absorbs the steroid faster.
I can try to look for it but I'm about to go out with my girl.
>>37333310
I can understand needing more gear once you're bigger but I'd find it very unlikely steroids would have a lesser effect just because you'd done them previously, I'm not sure that's how hormones work
>>37333368
because you gained 30 lbs retard what do you think?
>>37333368
Because you're likely at the limit of what that'll do for you at that weight.
You'll likely have had far less of a response at 220 compared to your 190 had you gotten there naturally. If it's not beyond your limit as it is.
>>37333373
That's my point.
>>37333349
more gains without further compromising your health
>>37333490
Debatable. But I'd say more results with less/different sides or DIFFERENT results.
>>37333503
depends on how much test youre running id say
but yeah of course he will get the sides from test as well if he runs it high enough
its kind of a weirdly phrased question imo
>>37333529
Agreed. It's like asking why people use primo or tren or deca.
Different results and/or sides.
>>37333368
>>37333432
Kind of agree with this guy.
There is literally 16% more of you then the last time you were on that dose.
>>37333581
>>37333432
Those are some reasons I think yes.
But I really do think there is something to waiting and at least letting your tendons to adapt, routine/diet to solidify.
I just have that hypothesis because every time I do a cycle even regardless of weight I feel like I build a tolerance.
Even if I went back down to 190 I don't think I would feel the same as
My first cycle.
>>37333581
I'm not picking sides here but if that made sense then we'd dose based off body weight
Though I can see what you mean if you mean 'of course progress is going to get harder the bigger you get'
>>37333805
the same reason why professional bodybuilders need 5 grams of gear to grow while a noob will grow like fuck on 500mg?
>>37333814
You didn't read my post did you
>>37333805
Maybe we should. But response is highly varied between individuals anyway. So there is no way to gauge this gear/lbs thing.
Good routine and diet, start with 500 test, up if gains are mediocre. Don't go over 800/week. Add some orals if you want.
>>37333737
>least letting your tendons to adapt, routine/diet to solidify.
I definitely agree. I don't know about waiting till you hit your "Natty limit" but I wouldn't advise steroids to anyone who hasn't been lifting/eating with dedication for at least a year.
Tendons are a good point. Just because your muscles can move a weight doesn't mean that your joints can handle it.
>>37333893
Yeah I honestly didn't hit my "natty limit" before I started. I should have worded the original post better but I'm on my phone and I get lazy to type too much.
If you were to do say... One cycle a year, once you've PCT'd would it be harder for you to make consistent progress or would it identical to as you were before steroids?
Does it simply just come down to your HPTA recovery? One of my main worries is cycling and then just being in a state of limbo until the next cycle
>>37333939
>would it be harder for you to make consistent progress
yes
>>37333839
we try not to
/rimshot
https://open.spotify.com/track/29ELmizww1g6cZUd5dB50H
Godtier spaced out music brehs.
Amazing when high.
Or after a workout to chill out.
How is a 4 week 25mg dbol-only cycle for a first cycle? Will I retain any of the gains I make on it?
What's a good routine while you're on a cycle?
>>37334113
no difference you are just able to progress faster
>>37334003
Kekd that was good
>>37334074
My opinion is that oral only cycles are dumb. If you aren't ready to pin you aren't ready for your first cycle.
>>37334221
Shhh, sugar tits.
Men are talking.
So I am researching my first cycle, and need some general advice.
I was looking to do a simple cycle of 250 mg Test-E for 12 weeks, along with dbol.
However I'm not sure what to use for AI / PCT. I hear Arimidex for an AI, but Nolvadex is also mentioned even though it's not technically an AI. No idea about PCT. Any advice?
>>37333373
>>37333470
It's whats commonly known as the down regulation of your androgen receptors.. Several factors come in to play, with estrogen also being a big one...
DO SOME FUCKING RESEARCH BEFORE YOU INJECT YOURSELF WITH SHIT WTEJMNSDFKGNDFG
Also
>>37333373
>I'm not sure that's how hormones work
>not sure
Then dont make a post with empty claims
>>37334837
>down regulation of your androgen receptors
does
not
happen
Anyone know where Mast is from? Noticed a guy at my gym with the same front delt veins he has
>>37335148
Netherlands or something like that
>>37334837
>downregulation
It's actually upregulation and a very slow decline back to normal after you quit.
>>37335201
>>37334903
okokok I thought I'd post the easy answer but alright
Androgen Receptors dont down regulate as such, BUT with the use of anabolic steroids the myostatin increases and muscle hypertrophy will eventually stagnate...
TL;DR same end result as down regulation just a different process
>>37331575
lmao don't ever tell anyone
>>37331868
I pinned my glutes once with a 27g instead of 23g, never going back
>>37335796
How many hours did it take?
fk guys so done
>>37335850
He's probably still doing it.
whats up guys?
just want a review of future bulk cycle. looking to put on a few kilos while keeping fat gain to a minimum. i have used tren before but i suffer from high bp, so tren is out for me.
8 week cycle
test p @ 525mg per week
npp @ 525mg per week
t-bol @ 50mg per day
will be using arimidex on cycle. nolva on hand and pct clomid only. i have been to an endocrinologist and he told me that nolva basically does nothing for your recovery and can in some cases actually slow it down.
anyway, what do you guys think of the cycle? i only have the test so far, so can change it up if need be
>>37334768
join an actual steroid forum. you will learn a lot there. as a short answer to your question:
test @ 500mg per week
dbol first 4 weeks @25-40mg a day
ai is arimidex or aromasin
nolva on hand for gyno symptoms
pct is clomid 100/100/50/50. thats the dose everyday, for a week. 4 weeks in total. start pct 2 weeks after last injection
>>37335384
Androgen receptors upregulate, and myostatin returns to baseline after a while of extended use. It's almost like homeostasis exists or something.
>>37336094
Nolva and clomid get things working pretty well, I'm certain he's referring to the usage in breast cancer treatment.
Cycle looks fine. I'd run the test for another 2 weeks after you drop the NPP, but that's just my preference.
>>37331311
Anyone have a complete pic or source on how to get started on this and what kind of cycle i should do for my first time/doses/what other things i need to take so i don't kill myself? Been lifting for 8 years now. Kinda bored. Put on about 7 pounds of muscle a year but still looks w.e. Would really appreciate it.
>>37332241
PPL all the way man
>>37336207
500mg test a week, aromasin as AI (adjust as needed for estro sides, 12.5mg e3d is a good starting point and pretty standard). Simplest cycle you're going to get
Anybody has any experiences with Stealth Labs?
Considering buying this brand since it's on sale for me.
>>37336207
250mg test e/wk, 500mg tren e/wk, 25mg each adrol/dbol pwo, 500mg TUDCA QD, 25mg MK677 QD, caber, nolva, ai prn.
If you're gonna juice you might as well do it right. 500mg test/wk is just a meme. It works, just not as well as almost any other cycle imaginable.
>>37336240
how many weeks do you think first cycle should be ?
>>37331771
And then what? You going to up the dose until you die?
You need to know how to actually get big natty
>>37336754
can i get the full names of those abbreviations? thanks. going to do more research while im at it on each one and maybe visit different forums
>>37331311
Any experiences with Tbol? useless?
>>37336754
This but less tren and pick one oral imo.
>>37337174
tren = trenbolone
adrol = anadrol
dbol = dianabol
tudca = tudca
mk677 = gh secretagogue
reddit steroid wiki duder, you've got a lot to read if you wanna do this shit safely
Next cycle time. Thinking...
400mg test e 1-12
400mg mast e 1-12
50mg anavar 6-12
dont have a fight lined up but would like to start making my way to get fight ready.
might up the var if i dont get a hellacious pump.
Ancilliaries- Taurine for pumps, nolva, clomid for pct and arimidex for Estrogen issues.
Have letro for intense issues but hope i dont need it.
MMA training, maybe some compound or kettlebell lifts a few times a week.
am i missing anything?
>>37337681
OH MY GOOOOOD
>>37337681
Should i think about 400mg test e and 600 mast e? I just want to stay away from using too much test because of bloat. Need to stay within my weight class but i could invest in extra mast if that would work. What are your ideas?
On 250 test 500 tren how hard can i restrict cals on psmf? I lift for an hour 5x a week
>>37336447
Just got my bulge enhancer from stealthformen. Much smaller than what I was expecting. Will try it out tomorrow.
Otherwise, I get my legal supplements from Catalyst Supplements, a local shop.
>>37337903
not this guy but i'm badly injured and on the same exact gear, can't workout but also doing psmf.
is this safe for my lbm?
>>37337952
just googled that...yup. it's real
>>37337417
I once thought so. Now I'm kinda liking it. Weak, but useful for minor mass gains or keeping a bit of fire when you're cutting.
>>37337952
bulge enhancer
interesting
>>37338019
I asked originally but I would say probably yes. Tren is lbm sparing af. Protein is also protein sparing. Im going to have to cut back on lifting when school ends in a few weeks and i was thinking i might just fast on my off days.
>>37338147
Im also curious if the refeeds are necessary on tren.
>>37338158
yeah same, anyone know?
Just in case people don't know the specifics, on PSMF if you're below 15% BF you're supposed to do refeeds every 11-12 days for 2 or 3 days, at least according to the author of the book/Lyle.
This is for natties though, we want to know about when you're on gear (in our case tren) if it's needed to do these refeeds.
>>37337952
>Just got my bulge enhancer from stealthformen. Much smaller than what I was expecting. Will try it out tomorrow.
Literally jm
Why do young people think they are trying hard to look fit? Their fucking age is their fitness. Let's have a board for 25+ people who are fit; you know, people who actually have the odds against them
>>37338652
That barely makes sense and you're an idiot
El montrey chimichanga is fire rn
How do i learn more about steroids? Is there anywhere steroids are explained in laymans terms? I'm not slow or anything, but reading medicinal terms is just confusing
>>37338707
You might be slow 2bh.
>>37338707
basically you put stuff in u and then stuff happens in yer body and then basically stuff grows after you lift weights
>>37338703
Bruh... what are you doin'? That shit turns even my stomach these days.
>>37338788
Spicy one is decent i dont even care
Theyre last lasy resort but im high af
First time i saw them i laughed becausr of you t b h
>>37338814
Spicy chimichanga? I've only seen beef and bean in chimichanga. If you're talking about the regular taco picante, I agree they're good, but my stomach legit can't handle frozen burritos anymore.
>>37338758
>>37338778
I just see a lot of different drugs and i have no idea what the differences are and why i should take one over another.
>>37338911
Go to the /r/ steroids wiki
Brb. never eating food again lads.
>I'll just get on /fraud/ for a few minutes before gym and check out what's going on
>bulge enhancer
>Okay that's enough for today
>>37331311
Jumping right in. How do I get started on roids? What do I read about and where can I find solid info on what my options are?
>>37338950
Read the thread or google you cunt
>>37338957
>OKAY I'LL JUST DO EXACTLY WHAT RANDOM PEOPLE HERE DO WITH NO REGARDS TO THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THEM AND ME
or
>OKAY I'LL JUST GOOGLE 'HOW TO ROID' AND WITH NO ABILITY TO CRITICALLY JUDGE WHAT I FIND I WILL START DOING WHATEVER THEY SAY
It's not like my health we're talking about, so I don't even have to be careful or smart about it.
>>37338927
swiss cheese has holes in it.....she has holes.....i don't get it.
>>37339040
You sound like an emotional fag remember to keep e2 in control while on roids kid
>>37339063
You sound like a piñata full of semen from all the cocks you suck. Fight me
>>37339041
I tried to be cool but obviously im too fat for anyone.
>>37338927
tell her it's better in person ;)
if you have been using for a few years and stop cold turkey but maintain a diet and continue your workout what would happen? strength loss? atrophy?
>>37339296
Your dick inverts on itself and you get gyno.
question for roiders, seeming you seem to be into qt younger girls. are you guys getting complete up-and-coming slags or qt pure waifus that you're defiling?
I ask because I was getting with a qt pure waifu that backed out because I'm too old for her, but I'm thinking it's because I'm not attractive enough.
>>37333893
Also IIRC a lot of roids actually decrease tendon protein synthesis, probably something to do with them increasing follistatin
my triceps looks bigger after 1 week of TRT than it did after 8 months of almost 0 free testosterone lifting, why?
>>37339557
>complete up-and-coming slags or qt pure waifus
Same thing.
>>37339702
no i meant were they like "yea im just loose lol!" or "what's a penis"
>>37339729
You'd have to ask yolo, he's the only one trip/name that pointedly goes after younger chicks.
To answer your question though, he gets with whores.
My back is finally starting to come along
Lats are getting wider
Rear delts more pronounced
Traps finally not small as fuck
Fuck yeah
>>37339623
Because you're using steroids
>>37340053
Still a manlet though
>>37340065
oh noooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
Do steroids make you taller if you take them for long enough?
>>37340077
They'll kill you faster so you don't have to spend as long miserable and inferior
>>37340112
Thank fuck for that
Sounds easier than just killing myself
>>37340053
>>37340065
>The placebo knight returns
>>37340117
ayyy the meme lord is back
Please tell me I'm not big enough yet
I need you to be a meanie pie so that I remember I'm not as big as bimbo, but bigger than you
>>37340114
Topjej
Ilu manletgains
N-no homo
What a good basic stack for a skeleton
6'2 185lb
>>37340127
>but bigger than you
You most certainly are fatter.
Do all the anons and trips have to call you delusional again.
>>37340133
It's okay bby
Self depreciating humour is great humour
I think we all know how homo no-homo is after seeing where bimbo is going :^)
>>37340177
ayy that line again
Can we please come up with a new routine?
Like maybe you can call me a "wog" or something?
I'll say you're a neckbeard maybe?
I dunno I'm just throwing out ideas, you're gonna have to come up with some.
>>37340227
Oh god, I think I have to look up how to filter trips just so I don't have to see your cancerous, delusional posts.
Sometimes it is funny to see you post stuff like, "bulking again for a week, oh my god I am already so much bigger, people bow their heads in awe as I walk down the street, crushing the sideway with my huge calves".
Then once you start cutting "oh my, alb was right, I am actually small as fuck".
>>37340265
Your perception of time is scarily warped my child
I was cutting for about 2 months
I only started bulking about 6 weeks ago
My calves post was a joke and it was very obvious it was a joke
I've been working on back for like 3 months now
Alb didn't say shit about being too small to cut, it was Canary who said it, while Mass actually said he thought I was big enough to cut
My word you really should just filter my trip, because your inability to actually keep track of my posts (which are always behind time on what I'm actually doing) is really lacking.
I will pray for you next time I lift
>>37335384
>the easy answer
>complete opposite of the truth
alrighty
its just like regular hypertrophy, the more it happens the slower it happens
steroids add in a boost in speed but the diminishing returns are still there
>>37340296
hows the acne these days familia? better?
>>37340373
It's gone
Has been for a while
Now it's just a case of waiting for the scars to go away
They'll get there eventually, but it's slow going
Kind of want to use peptides or hgh more than ever to see if it helps
>>37340396
neat
they usually take like 6 months to fade, slower if youre on accutane
idk how much an increase in gh will help with fading the scars but it cant hurt
>>37340417
Yeah I stopped running the accutane
Will eventually see the derma again, but for now I'm just gonna wait and see if it comes back or not
Everyone goes on about how great more GH is for your skin, so I figured it must help
Total broscience but who knows, maybe it works?
My first blast was test prop 175 eod
Then 2nd blast was 200 eod
3rd blast was 175 prop 350 tren/wk
4th blast was 175 prop 500 tren/wk
5th blast is 175 prop 650 tren/wk
My 6th blast I want to make serious gains for this fall/winter so I want npp/test Ik I should double the test for my dick to work but what dose should I use for npp? since I've already used tren (a nor-19) a couple of times
>>37340432
i never went to a dermatologist, just bought accutane off of the black market and went to town
free healthcare a shit, wouldnt trust them for a second
yeah ppl keep saying it makes your skin gr8 but ive never heard anyone elaborate in what way, i didnt notice much when i was on mk677
on an unrelated note, weighed in at 76.6 kg this morning
im gonna make it
>>37340594
Yeah the derma I go to isn't free
I gotta pay for that shit, which is why I haven't just waltzed in
>ppl keep saying it makes your skin gr8 but ive never heard anyone elaborate in what way
This is true
Nobody can really say what is actually going on biologically when you are on HGH that makes skin better
>weighed in at 76.6 kg
Good stuff dude
>>37340594
>free healthcare a shit
yes I fucking hate this cuckland
>closest private "hospital" is a little over an hour away
>fill out their form and ask for an x-ray to see if growth plates are closed
>this was over a month ago and they haven't even contacted me back
even private healthcare is shit here
will start roids anyway, been 5'6 for like 2 years doubt that I will grow to 6' like I was supposed to
>>37340594
>free healthcare a shit, wouldnt trust them for a second
as in they might get you arrested for supected roid use?
>>37340668
>as in they might get you arrested for supected roid use?
I'm honestly so paranoid that I will not even get a blood test because they will probably test for roids without telling me just because I look big and then someday the cops will show up and give me a fine that will economically cripple me for the rest of my life
>>37340668
depends on the doc obviously
theyre allowed to tell the cops if they assess that im a danger to other people
more likely that theyll shout at me for 30 minutes and deny treatment
>>37340664
>>37340668
>>37340703
>>37340719
Damn you guys get fucked around
It is always eye opening how great our free healthcare is in comparison to other countries
I can walk in to a local doctors office and get seen within 30 minutes
If I want xrays or tests that aren't medically necessary I go and ask the doc, he writes a referral and I pay for it out of my own pocket
None of this being afraid of the cops bullshit
>>37340735
>If I want xrays or tests that aren't medically necessary I go and ask the doc, he writes a referral and I pay for it out of my own pocket
The free healthcare told me that they didn't offer "that kind of service" when I wanted to get an x-ray to see if I would grow taller but the nurse gave me a formula instead that said I would grow to 6' but since I've been 5'6 for two years I doubt that I will
>>37340735
>aren't medically necessary
these things are not really available, there always have to be a reason behind everything
fuck zyzz motivation videos.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjKkuSvFuOk
this is like crack
>>37340594
Derma cost + accutane for 2.5 months == 320 euro's. I felt raped.
>arrive at derma
>tell him i want them accutane and tried anything for my acne
>he tell me to take of my shirt
>watch my physique
>hmmm, you take steroids?
>no..
>you sure?
>100% sure
>next session
>take of your shirt to see the accutane progress
>hmm, are you sure you don't take steroids? while looking at me sarcastic
>no, what are steroids. You crazy man
>weighed in at 76.6 kg this morning
Whats your height? I'am curious to see more pics from you.
>>37340763
>>hmmm, you take steroids?
>>no..
>>you sure?
>>100% sure
>>next session
>>take of your shirt to see the accutane progress
>>hmm, are you sure you don't take steroids? while looking at me sarcastic
>>no, what are steroids. You crazy man
lmaoooooooo
>>37340747
>>37340752
That's fucking bizzar
Why in the fuck would a business NOT want people coming in and having test etc done that they can charge big money for?
As far as I am aware, you can have almost anything done by a private medical practice done in Australia so long as you're paying for it.
Eg I COULD have my cancer treated by a hospital without using insurance or public subsidies, IF I had the cash to do it
>>37340763
>Derma cost + accutane for 2.5 months == 320 euro'
Jesus what the fuck
A months worth of accutane costs me less than $50
>>37340763
is it harsh for you to? do you think you would have been denied treatment if you said that you were on roids?
>>37340781
yea I would gladly pay for it, will probably have to find a private hospital in a bigger city but that would be 2h train ride
>>37340788
Sad thing is that 2H train ride probably isn't even geographically far lol
>>37340805
a bit over 300km
Well brehs this cunt stood me up last night. I am so fucking sick of women.
Where's bimbo at when you need some cock in your life?
>>37340763
yeah i paid like 50 euros for a box of melatonin (30x2 mg pills) with a script once
then i went online and bought 360 pills with 3 mg in each for less than that
fucking crazy
my passport says 174 cm but im p sure im slightly shorter than that, maybe 173 or 172 cm
not really comfy with posting pics on here considering what usually happens when people do, guess i could email you a fair pic if you want me to tho
>>37340827
>yeah i paid like 50 euros for a box of melatonin (30x2 mg pills) with a script once
>then i went online and bought 360 pills with 3 mg in each for less than that
yeah same lol. melatonin didn't do anything for me though
>my passport says 174 cm but im p sure im slightly shorter than that, maybe 173 or 172 cm
I lied and said that I was 171cm, I am actually only 168cm, I've never told anyone
>>37340782
Would you take the risk? there is no benefit to tell him. I just want to have them pills. I went to the general practitioner once and they asked me the same shit. They might report that shit in their system and they will blame roids everytime you come there.
The first thing they ask if you visit the doctor. DO YOU SMOKE OR DRINK? what do you think they would do with steroids.
He's not stupid, he was talking about steroids every session.
Deny until i die
>>37340781
tell me about it
>>37340827
i know right. Should buy that shit off the blackmarket right away. But you could be easily fraud, that's the cancer of the internet
[email protected]
>>37340816
Oh okay that's a decent distance
I was legit expecting less than 100Ks
>>37340823
>Messy room
Would not bang
>>37340827
That whole melatonin thing..... The fuck
>>37340827
>My licence says I'm shorter than I am
>tfw I trick the police and they think a midget is off running wild
>>37340877
Mine always asks if I'm still lifting
I say no
He looks at me incredibly sceptically due to zero loss of muscle any time he sees me
We both know what's up
>>37340890
>>tfw I trick the police and they think a midget is off running wild
>Mine always asks if I'm still lifting
tell him that you do wii fit and zumba
>>37340899
Like seriously
Imagine a licence that says I am shorter than I actually am
THAT IS FUCKING SHORT
>wii fit and zumba
oh man I literally say this to people
The looks of confusion
>>37340890
>Messy room
>Would not bang
No not literally the girl in that pic stood me up. Some other cunt, that is just a pic I have on my pc.
But seriously wtf is wrong with women, they are such fucking liars man I swear every one of them. Well except for me ma, shes a saint.
>>37340987
How long you been talking to her?
I never understood someone who stands someone else up
If I want to back out of seeing someone, I always make sure I tell them hey something came up at least 12 hours before hand
If it's less time than that, I just grit my teeth and do it
Makes being social easier later, because I learn to deal better with shit I don't like
>>37341012
She's an ex of mine that hit me up and said she missed me and wanted to see me. Well she texted me that she was supposedly on her way home after work and I never heard from her again.
Normally I would be slightly worried that she got into an accident but this cunt has pulled this shit before.
What really kills me is I was always so good to her. I never did anything to deserve being ignored and treated like shit =/
>>37341056
Oh that one
You posted her ass
She literally wanted attention because she was feeling lonely, or the dude she actually wanted to fuck wasn't texting her back.
So she messaged you knowing you'd respond and you would agree to come see her after work.
Once she got home and realized she didn't actually want to see you (or chad texted back) she decided it was easier to just ignore you and not text back.
Block her number from your phone, then delete her as a contact.
Block her on all social media.
Move the fuck, talk to other girls, get some hobbies to distract yourself.
If you're still talking to an ex that treats you like that you have fucked up..... and you're being a beta loser
>>37331311
Hey fraud, i'm in a bit of a truoble here, two days ago i injected for the first time, right thigh, 0,5 ml of test E (500mg/ml, pharmacom that tests true in the site), for the first day it was fine, almost no pain, yesterday it started hurting a lot if i moved my leg and had troble walking, and by the night it started to swell a little. Today the area also became Red. The swelling isn't too big but it is very painful to move/walk, my main fear is an abscess because i injected too shallow. Should i go to the doctor? What kind of repercussions could it have if i go? Legal stuff? I live in Italy btw but i don't expect the laws to be much different here from the rest of Europe and America.
>>37341087
>Oh that one
>You posted her ass
Ya haha, that's the one
>Block her number from your phone, then delete her as a contact.
So truth be told she texted me from a new number I think on Monday and this is after I haven't heard from her in months and so I was very hesitant all week with her. Then as we get closer to last night she has me convinced that she is gonna come over. I swear she just did this shit to fuck with me.
But I mean seriously who spends a whole week setting someone up like that just to hurt their feelings? Fucking women that's who.
Anyway ya the new number is already blocked. I should probably dump her nudes online but she has nudes of me so maybe not such a good idea haha.
>>37341108
>test E (500mg/ml, pharmacom that tests true in the site)
The absolute max you can suspend is 300mg/ml. Anyone that claims more than that is scamming. Go to a doctor, get some antibiotics and throw that fake ass gear away.
>>37341194
Damn, i thought pharmacom was good... will it be fine if i take oral antibiotics only or do i need other procedures?
>>37341108
Its probably nothing. They use ethyl oleate to make high concentration gear and some people have a reaction to that. Take an advil and a benedryl and put a hot compress on it. Dont freak, but maybe look into getting some lower concentrationTest.
>>37341194
I've had 800mg/ml eq before, cunt
>>37340296
>it was Canary who said it,
I hear you ended up faltering and agreeing to me being right :3
Don't worry bruh, we've all been there. The terrible feels when you start disappearing throughout the first real cut.
>>37340763
>I felt raped.
Admit you enjoyed that part
>>37341669
>I've had 800mg/ml eq before
That's eq not test and I have no idea how much eq you can suspend per ml of oil but that sounds way too high as well.
>cunt
Stay mad with your fake ass gear breh
>>37341312
Are you sure it's 500mg/ml test E? That sounds really weird. Look again and make sure it's not a mix of different esters, which I'm assuming is the case.
Either way though, probs no 500mg/ml
