Post goal bodies.
Is this achievable natty?
Lol
absolutely not.
Looks like 250mg test + tren + climid
>>37308650
Wat that makes no sense
>>37308617
Why do men love this? I love to admire hot, ripped guys, but man, the ancient Kings were RIPPED and had a wayyyy higher bf percentage. I hate when guys are all muscle. Get jacked but damn, have some fat. No chub or pot bellies, healthy, meaty fat. Mmmmm mmmmm.
>>37308679
fuck off fatty
>>37308650
Clomid is a pct drug you cockmongler
>>37308650
Kill yourself
>>37308754
Strong arguments, bro.
I'm speechless.
>>37308617
>>37308650
Hahaha absolutely achievable natty.
Jesus, you guys have been so paranoid about the juice that you think if you gain any muscle it's because they're on steroids.
I feel like it's an excuse for nattys to not work as hard. You guys think just cuz your genetics are shitty and you don't push yourself, that anyone else who has better genetics and has intensity is on gear.
>>37308842
Now post your gains breh
>>37308860
>>37308679
kill yourself fat fuck
>>37308865
I SAID NATTY
>>37308865
>>37308922
shut up, bitch nigga
>>37308922
Here's one when I was natty at 196.
>>37308948
Post pic please
>>37308679
wtf
>>37308865
Generic juicer
>>37308973
Generic DYEL
Anything you would like to add?
>>37308650
lmao at your life crab
>>37309010
Post pic
>>37309032
Why exactly?
>>37309037
Hahahahaha.
Yeah that's what I thought.
It's always the critics that hide behind their keyboards cuz they know they'll only open themselves up to all the criticism they diss out themselves.
Someone's a little pussy :)
>>37308650
i always kek when some dude just guesses what stack someone is on based on a picture
goal body pic related
>>37309053
So I can see how much better you are. Clearly if I'm so generic and DYEL then you are obviously better.
Let me bask in the glory of your gains.
I mean why else would you act so superior. You have superior gains amirite?
>>37309072
>how much better
The fuck? First pic you posted: Generic juicer, second one: DYEL as fuck.
The point is that I don't quite see a good natty condition from you.
>>37309088
Yeah you're avoiding it. I knew you'd do that.
Nothing you say matters. You have no merit. As far as I'm concerned you look like shit and your standards are unfounded.
>>37309147
I was just shitposting ITT. I'll go now, good night.
>>37309088
dat body dysmorphia tho
I never will understand goal body threads
How can you have a goal body? I mean everybody has different insertions, and you're never ever going to look like your goal body because YOU ARE NOT HIM
It's retarded. You should have goal lifts, a goal FFMI and a goal BF%. But having a 'goal body' can't exist because nobody on the planet has your insertions, frame, genes etc
Honestly, i'm not even after a goal body any more, I just want to be able to run without having a tight as fuck chest
>tfw pectus excavatum
>going to the doctor to recommend me on whether or not to have surgery to correct it
>if I do, I might finally be able to run for more than 10 minutes without turbo charging air through my chest and making my sternum feel like it's going to burst
>>37309297
Have you studied Plato at all? Are you familiar with his theory of the world of forms?
>>37309057
tbqh, you looked way better natty. Your face is all bloated and something just looks off.
>>37308679
>fat ass detected
>>37309386
Lol what is bulking
Back to /r/fitness
>>37309297
Having a goal body literally is just having a goal FFMI and bf. It's just much easier to communicate what you want to look like by posting a picture than by saying "I want an FFMI of 24.6 with 8% bodyfat".
>>37309379
I haven't but I just had a quick read over the Theory of Forms wiki. Not sure what you're getting at
That there's an ideal form for the human body?
Doesn't change anything about what I said
>>37309418
People find inspiration and something to strive for even if they can't reach it.
If you are going to act like the way you do now why even bother to improve your self.
Pic related. Goal body I will never have but it gives me motivation and something to strive for.
>>37308865
>/fraud/ster giving lessons to nattys about hard work
This is new and never seen before
You forgot another memeword juicers like to use along with "hard work"
>d___ca_ion
Can you guess it
>>37309297
Agreed. A more appropriate idea would be "inspirational bodies thread". Big difference in trying to recreate someone else's body versus simply admiring their mass/bf achievements.
>>37309501
Fuck I remember when tiny used to post, definitely goal body
>>37308617
yes it is, for once
>>37308792
He has bow legs. Other than that, gr8ness
>>37309501
His physique definitely inspired me. But I learned as all newbies eventually do, even when/if you attain the exact same amount of lean muscle and BF of him, you're going to look way different. The motherfucker was like 5 foot 4 inches, you gotta know that will affect proportional growth differently than someone average height or especially in the lanklet range.
Still merlin tho.
>>37309674
Balconybro you have my goal bod haha mirin every time you post breh
>>37309501
you literally post in EVERY thread dude, like i said before you CARE SO MUCH about people mirin you EVEN after you made it...INSECURE..admit it
>>37309823
>>37309674
and it doesnt matter that no pictures of you were posted here...why are you all over this board all day every day?? WHY
>>37308865
You look insanely good. what are you running atm?
>>37309838
>>37309823
Are you that sad jaded kid from last night? You genuinely do seem to think I'm insecure, not just trolling. I already explained why I don't see it that way. So perhaps the better questions is, why are you so triggered by what you percieve as someone else's insecurity?
Bonus question: If you see me here every day in multiple threads...are you not here, also every day, also in these threads? Seriously, the only difference is that I have a username and you don't. I have no reason to hide my trail of contributions to this community and people actually appreciate my posts far more than you seem to loathe it.
I've attached a picture of myself for you specifically, because I know it rustles those delicates of yours.
>>37309997
Thanks man. I'm on test e 500 mg/wk and proviron 25mg/day
That pic was taken in a cruise of 250mg a week.
>>37309058
steve reeves wasn't natty either btw
>>37308842
Insecure roider detected. Natties work out the hardest btw. Otherwise we get 0 gains.
>>37309501
is this natty?
>>37309466
that's not that hard to make desu, if you start at zero it would prob take 2-4 years depending how half-assed you eat and lift
also make shoulder day everyday
>>37308617
How often would you have to hit the gym to even maintain that?
>>37310484
>the difference between you and me is I am an attention whore and you are not
ok
>>37308617
I don't want to seem presumptuous, but I think I'm kind of close to OP's pic and I've been lifting for 2 and a half years. Natty, just did my first cut this Spring.
>>37310828
looks better than OP, better shoulder/waist ratio
but you're a nigger so automatic 0/10
>>37310859
Which Tyrone beat you up in school, cucky?
>>37310868
I don't live in united states of cuck so I've never actually had to deal with a nigger irl
>>37310859
What does me being black have to do with it?
>>37310828
you're beyond OP's pic dude
>>37310889
Shut it nigger and go back to Africa
>>37310933
Really? I appreciate it mate.
>>37310974
Make me
>>37310587
>>37309674
it sucks knowing that these two are not natty :(
it really destroys my motivation
>>37310998
there was an issue with your reaction pic but I've fixed it for you, don't worry
you're welcome
>>37311012
Racism has no place in /fit/ you fucking autist, I expect it from /pol/, hell it's even part of the reason I go to /pol/, but here it's retarded, stop being mean to our nigger friend.
>>37311012
Oh you mad huh
>>37311012
>>37311044
but they are inferior, around blacks never relax
>>37311117
Genuinely meaning not to be a dick here even though I'm gonna sound like one, but do you think you can post pictures of you without any editing and in natural lighting? You look damn good, I just want to see what you look like in a more realistic scenario if that makes sense.
>>37308679
Why do men love this? I love to admire hot, ripped guys, but man, the ancient Kings were RIPPED and had a wayyyy higher bf percentage. I hate when guys are all muscle. Get jacked but damn, have some fat. No chub or pot bellies, healthy, meaty fat. Mmmmm mmmmm.
>>37308679
I know what you mean nig. Guys like koklov and pic are more my style. I'll never get there though, because I don't want to roid
>>37311144
Why should you never relax around them if they're so inferior?
>>37311168
You made me go into my phone instead of Instagram, you fucker
LGB
>>37310889
>triggered by racial bantz on 4chan
It's that time of year again...
>>37311303
>triggered by blacks posting on 4chan in general
Don't act like you don't post there, lol
>>37310484
the tone and angle of your response speaks volumes. you are not insecure, you are indeed so arrogant and vain youre blinded by it.
You seem to think that simply because i spot you in a lot of threads that i spend as much time here as you. Which is obviously not true. I literally said to myself, okay if i click on the 5 threads i think hell be in and he is actually there, then yes its okay to assume hes here all fucking day..and what do you know..there you were in literally 4/5 of the threads i opened.
You think a picture of your body rustles my jimmies? lol? Your personality is so bad and youre so conceited im just glad i dont know you let alone have to BE you. Jealous..no. Amused, sure.
>>37311320
m8 people even called fucking Zyzz a shitskin when he posted here. If you can't handle shitposting then go back to your safe space, you newfag cuck.
where are u
>>37308973
wait yo u started roiding from THIS?
Holy fucking kek, these fucking kids these days. Dont know how to work hard for SHIT
>>37311361
here
>>37311412
>first rebuttal was a ''go back to /pol/'' macro
Lad
>>37311460
Based on subject matter, not conjecture of site use. Do you understand?
>>37308973
yea you look absolutely dyel here.
like any kid at high school that plays some sport.
dont fucking talk about hard work or some shit roid scum
>>37311633
shill man
>>37308865
Too bad about that face
>>37310828
>>37311117
how was your trip to Jamaica?
>>37311887
or was it the bahamas?
>>37311340
>you literally sat at your computer before pulling up fit and had the thought "ok, what I want to do to entertain myself tonight is audit five 4chan threads to see what how often this guy i don't like has engaged in an online community throughout the day"
I'm speechless breh. So honoring that you've made me a part of your life.
But you could have just asked...off the top of my head I:
-Answered a question someone ASKED ME about my experience with intermittent fasting.
-Shared my empathy and experience regarding depression as a mental disorder.
-Shared a low cal pizza dough recipe someone ASKED ME for.
-Shared my thoughts on how to gently handle rejecting someone you aren't attracted to.
-Answered a question someone ASKED ME regarding diet friendly foods (Walden's Farm's Syrup).
-Shared a suggestion someone ASKED FOR regarding a problem with compound lifts and their PPL routine.
-And yes, by god, I posted a picture of my current body in a thread that said "post your current body"
How many threads did I create in order to "attention whore"? 0. Threads created by me in the last month: 1.
I'm sorry, but not everyone who trips is the person you really, really, really, want to think they are. View the responses to a lot of my posts and you'll see various thanks and appreciations. But let me guess, that's why I'm here, to get people to thank and appreciate me, right? The fact that I may have helped someone lose weight, make gains, treat other people (even fatties) with respect, and feel better about themselves...I did ALL of those things today alone. This fact easily negates your bitterness and lack of any noteworthy contribution to this place. I can validate all the ways I try and will continue to try and help people - the posts have my name on them. Please show me where you have done the same around here?
>>37312032
btw I love our dialogues. I haven't had this much fun debunking arguments/stubbornness of this (low) caliber since 6th grade debate tournament.
>>37312032
Balcony, dont feed the trolls, man.
>>37312162
>>37312032
This. I admire you balconybro. Total goal body for me. I-I feel like I could make it like ou have someday...but please don't give into these retards. You're better than that
>>37309173
lol fucking pussy, i know you're still reading this thread with mild anxiety
>>37312032
What's the difference between doing this anonymously and doing this with a name/pictures? You use a name to gather attention. If you posted it anonymously, how would we all know how much of a nice guy you are, am I right?? You could learn a lesson from the popular quote "Climb a mountain; tell no one"
>>37312162
>>37312189
It's all good homies, I enjoy the discourse.
>tfw when you love corn dogs and chili cheese dogs so you have to invent a healthier way to eat them all the time.
1/2 cup corn meal
2 diced up lean hot dogs
96g egg whites
2 tbsp onion powder
2 tbsp garlic powder
2 tbsp minced garlic
82g shredded fat free cheddar cheese
1/4 can chili (Hormel 98% fat free turkey chili without beans is best imo)
1/2 cup shopped onions
600ish cals, 40-50g protein.
mix all in bowl, shape into meatballs, bake on 400F for 17-20 mins. never go to Sonic or eat frozen corn dogs again, make gains.
>>37312266
You haven't been on /fit/ long, have you? Posting diet advice or lifting/routine opinions anonymously with no pics to show actual results = "just trust me it works". Show me someone with the proof of what they are suggesting actually working vs "just trust me it works" - which are you likely to believe and try out for yourself?
>>37311288
>>37311117
>>37310894
>>37310828
>>37310484
How good would guys like this be at running?
sprinting probably fast
but what about 2 mile or 5 miles?
>>37312269
>ywn wake up to a breakfast Balcony has made for you
Why even live!?
>>37312314
There's literally zero way to tell based on a picture. Many (if not the majority) of fitness models, and definitely bodybuilders, simply train for strength or aesthetic purposes. This results in an "athletic image" but when it comes to cardiovascular performance, they would perform drastically worse than say a college, pro, or olympic athlete, who all have the athletic image AND the cardio training to boot. You simply can't see someone's cardio abilities in a "fit" picture.
>>37312313
If you've been in fitness long enough, you know the only actual results comes from CICO, any progressive routine that covers all body parts, and whether or not you take steroids are the only significant roles in your body. Also, why not refer to other studies? Link to real sources? I can see how posting your body supplies SOME support, but it's not significant at all. It's like those instagram models for sports clothing or supplements that say "Look, I take this! Look at my physique!" when they're all on roids. I'm not trashing roids either, if I had the money I would most likely do it too.
>>37312366
I can't comment on the roids part, but "any progressive routine that covers all body parts" and "CICO" are over simplifications.
Hypertrophy vs Powerlifting routines for example. Both progressive, both hit all body parts. So...where does the newbie go? He needs to know what's involved with each and more importantly how each will reward him in drastically difference ways. Que me - I can show him what two years on a Hypertrophy routine looks like, provided diet is in check, which leads to...
"CICO is the only thing that matters". Did you somehow forget macros? Newbie lifter hears he has to eat more to get big. Okay...so i'm not hungry but I wanna get big, I know I need more calories than I used to eat, so guess I'll get another few hundred calories a day by having a butterfinger bar. That's a true story - as a teen my brother tried to "get big" eating 3k calories a day (an acceptable range to be in a bulking range CALORICALLY speaking) eating fucking Butterfingers, because he didn't have any knowledge whatsoever as to how macro's work - he was nowhere near his protein needs, etc.
There's no one in that persons home or gym right now to stand in front of them who has obviously figured some things out in order to achieve a nice physique - that's why they're resorting to asking an online forum. So I put myself out there. That's why I trip+pics. The fact that this is remotely confusing, or even deemed negative, baffles me beyond no end.
>>37312531
Okay I should've included "except meeting protein requirements" when saying CICO was all that mattered. And I'd like to clarify that I'm simply playing devils advocate for the people too simple to explain their thoughts or reasoning behind their disapproval of your name&pics combo (granted, most are probably just jealous).
However, even with hypertrophy and powerlifting routines progress in a similar way: they increase the weight and reps. Hypertrophy will aim for more reps, but a progressive hypertrophy will still increase the weight and reps. Powerlifting will aim for more weight, but will still increase the weight and reps.
As for macros, you should know protein will be the only thing with an impact when it comes to muscle growth. Carbs and fats will play a part in your psychological well being, but when it comes down to your LBM (which is what 90% of people care about on /fit/ and refer their questions to), protein plays the role in that.
One more thing, you didn't seem to mention my comment on providing sources instead of pictures nor the analogy to the instagram models. Are you denying these or did you overlook them?
It's nice conversing with you btw, I mostly just shit post because it's near impossible to have an actual conversation with someone.
>>37312314
Probably not that great but big guys can have amazing cardio is they train it obviously. Just take Scooby for example.
>>37312645
That's indeed much more inline with the advice I give regarding diet. Calories and protein are the golden paths to follow - the other two have so much leeway in a non-professional athletes goals it doesn't matter. Glad to see we agree.
Instagram models - Can't deny that me posting a pic saying "this is what I did to look like this" in no way *proves* what routines I followed or what foods I eat/ate. But thanks to the trip, consistent timestamped identifiable pics, and frequent contributions in various topics, hopefully that's enough to merit the logic that I'm not simply an anon spouting SS+GOMAD. Just a guy who really appreciated the role /fit/ played in inspiring and educating him and enjoys paying it forward to the next fella.
Citing research journals and studies etc - Yeah, I could dig up articles that support my advice. But then there's always some anon who finds a contrarian article and wants to hold a debate about who's research is more thorough, current, relevant, etc etc. I do love debate, but giving in to that path of trolldom or science that isn't black or white starts to really stray and tax the joy of all this.
>>37312873
Well, I like your reasoning. I don't disagree with you; pictures are a much more convenient way of answering questions and giving advice, but hopefully people do not take them as an end-all argument. Have a good one, and thanks for talkin.
>>37310828
lookin good mayne. height/weight?
>>37311117
She gon' be mad right? Ain't that too bad, right?
Wanna catch that cab, right? Take back that bag, right?
>>37312886
Hate to break it to you pal but he looks like shit AND hes on roids
>>37310828
Mirin'
Also I feel like black genetics build muscle better. Is there any broscience behind this? So many huge nigs that don't lift for as long as a slightly aesthetic white person
>>37313077
Brock Lesnar using roids? No way
>>37308617
is this a fucking joke hes not even huge
>>37310859
>>37310881
>etc
its funny because racism actually violates global rule 3 on any board but /b/....
>>37313110
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3455741
>>37312032
DUdeEEDE, you think youre debunking anything? lolwtf. I type my shit in about 2 seconds and its obviously not even true. You sit here contemplating how youre going to "debunk" complete nonsense.
Do you not see how that is exactly what a troll would want??
Give it a rest guy, all i wanted is for you to admit you come here mainly for the mires.
You seriously take yourself WAYYY too seriously.
>>37313696
how to become (as a grill)
>>37312032
>>37312069
oh and obv tl;dr... like wtf?
Its also funny that rather than ignore me when im OBVIOUSLY baiting a response, you choose to indulge because you literally have something to prove lol, like i was fucking around picking on your because you want attention and all that but i think weve discovered something else going on here
how to into this body
>>37308842
agreed thanks bud
>>37310859
What's wrong with that? chocolates are attractive people
>>37312032
Dood you'll get haters the moe you look good though. Just ignore it. Keep posting your shite so we can use your picture for science
![MV5BMTk0NjQ0ODAwM15BMl5BanBnXkFtZTgwNjM1NDM4MTE@._V1_UY1200_CR84,0,630,1200_AL_[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/xRADASR.jpg "MV5BMTk0NjQ0ODAwM15BMl5BanBnXkFtZTgwNjM1NDM4MTE@._V1_UY1200_CR84,0,630,1200_AL_[1].jpg")
>tfw 6'2 mountainlet
>>37308679
>ancient kings
WE
>>37308617
Goal body.
>>37312032
>p-please validate me
Your average insecure tripfag. Can't help people without everyone knowing its you doing it, eh? You should try filming yourself being such a selfless person and then put it on YouTube, people like you seem to do well there.
>>37314278
>chisken legs
Get the fuck out, you normie REEEEEEE
I'll post mine
>>37314290
Some people like to wear pants that fit.
I'd rather not have to wear sweat pants because my giant ugly thighs can't fit into jeans
>>37314356
Fucking normie, I bet you think he's natty too.
>>37314349
Great body, too bad he's a manlet.
>>37314290
>Implying he wasn't talking about the upper body
>Implying he has chicken legs here
His PT literally moved him to doing 600lb leg press in response to the chicken leg hysteria for that movie mate
>>37312531
Whats ur diet like ? Do you do intermittent fasting or several meals per day / Macro ratios? Thanks
>>37309466
That's really insightful, anon. Perfection as something to strive for. You can tell yourself that you'll never be perfect and stay complacent, or you can admire perfection and chase after it, always improving. If you need to feel complacency or contentedness, find it in your endless progress.
>>37314406
>600lb leg press
>leg press
Enoug with this pleb shit, you are triggering the fitizens.
>>37314406
>His PT literally moved him to doing 600lb leg press
You know that 600 on leg press is like a 200 halfsquat, right?
>>37313928
who is this?
>>37312873
what's your body look like?
Always and forever this. It's perfect.
>>37314542
who is this man? I remember for some reason like 3-5 years ago there was a post about him on /lit/.
>>37314391
How tall is he?
>>37314349
>>37314580
>>37314580
5' something
>>37314587
> tfw saved this pic 3 years ago
> tfw I lost my gains by not sticking to it
> tfw I'm almost the same I was 3 years ago
>>37314576
Bulgarian wrestler, he later ruined his body with tattoos, unfortunately. His name is something Plamen, I can't remember his first name.
>>37314596
You remember if he's below 5'5?
>>37314598
>>37314602
http://fuckyeahplamen.tumblr.com/
>>37314606
>>37314606
Not that short, 5'8 or 5'6, I can't remember exactly.
>>37314181
>chocolates are attractive people
>people
Lol
Pls don't ban me
>>37314642
Thank you
>>37309369
Iktfb
Pectus fag here and its affected nothing apart from how I look and my bench (way below what it should be) so could have been a lot worse tbqh
>>37314598
You're better than before, anon. You have knowledge about how to make gains that you didn't have before. You know better why you sometimes falter, and how you can prevent that in the future. You can make it.
>>37308679
>Get jacked but damn, have some fat. No chub or pot bellies, healthy, meaty fat. Mmmmm mmmmm.
How do you even end up on 4chan fit instead of tumblr on accident??
>>37308973
Congratulations,you now impress only men and attract 1% of women which are on roids.
