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Fuck my life, I've never made it through with cutting, and I'm pretty fucking fat, sticky is pretty fucking vague and I'm ready for the process
HOW DO I CUT /FIT/
pic related, thats me
eat less
move more
caloric deficit
consistency
How to fail your diet:
>Buy a bunch of food and put it in your fridge/pantry
>Spend 24 hours a day 7 days a week trying not to eat too much of it at once
How to succeed at your diet:
>Empty house of food
>Buy exactly 21 meals worth of raw food that has to be cooked, based on caloric need
>no soda, no snacks, nothing else but tea/coffee (no sugar) and low calorie chewing gum
>Do not return to the grocery for 7 days
>Now instead of needing to have willpower for 168 hours every week, you need to have willpower for 30 minutes while you're at the grocery
>Instead of grabbing things to snack on, you will have to commit to 20+ minutes of cooking when you want to eat
>>37304844
that's not you
>>37304956
This is the only way.
>How do i cut
Count your calories.
Every day be on a 500-700kcal deficit.
Do this for 4-6 months and you're cut.
>pic related, thats me
>bulldozer-610676.jpg
well if isis allows you to go on mongolion throat singing boards then I believe you
What's the best cardio for burning fat? I keep hearing arguments for both sides but they tend to sound biased. Right now I'm leaning on steady state cardio. Any good sources that will tell me objectively which is best?
>>37304844
low caloric density.
conting NEVER works for long if you're still hungry at the end of the day.
>>37305556
HIIT is, there's not room for debate.
That said, diet is the most important factor here by a long shot.
>>37305556
Swimming>cycling>running.
All in terms of calories burned/joint stress/fun.
>>37305603
HIIT comes off as a meme. Can you link sources that convinced you that that is the prime method of cardio for fat loss?
>>37305612
>HIIT comes off as a meme.
It's literally keeping your heartrate up, thus causing more cardiovascular work. How the fuck is that a meme?
Are you serious?
I´ve been on a 600kcal cut now for a few months (4-5?) and still not on my desired physique. However I often completely crash around 11, I just need to sleep. My friends often go hangout but I usually take off before 12 because I'm just super tired.
is this because of my deficit or is it linked to something else? I eat around 200-210g carbs everyday.
>>37305762
You're cutting and eating 200g of fucking carbs?
>>37305818
yes.. calories are calories. if i'm eating 200g of carbs and I'm still on 2400 with a TDEE of 3000 what the fuck does it matter.
as memey as it sounds, intermittent fasting has really helped me while cutting. Not even kidding. It seems to be the only "fad" way of eating that actually works.
>>37304956
Solid advice
>>37305877
>calories are calories
That's not the case at all. Carbs are usually less filling or nutritious. Out of all types of foods, ones that are high in carbs are the ones you can cut out the most.
>a TDEE of 3000
You don't have a sedentary TDEE of 3000. Regardless if you're lifting or doing cardio or whatever, you need to be eating at a deficit of your SEDENTARY TDEE.
>>37305903
No.
What the fuck is "sedentary TDEE" anyways, I think you mean BMR.
And you eat at a deficit of your TDEE not your BMR, when you want to cut.
>>37305919
your TDEE is not 3k
>>37305762
>I eat around 200-210g carbs everyday.
There's your problem.
>>37305919
>What the fuck is "sedentary TDEE" anyways, I think you mean BMR.
No, I mean sedentary TDEE. When you cut, you eat at a sedentary deficit, since extra calories burned is worth it anyhow.
Give me your height and weight.
>>37305686
Because we're comparing to the traditional steady state cardio which also raises your heart rate. Hiit just sounds like its made by the wannabe hardcore kids who like to latch to these fads. Anyway, you got the source that made you convert?
Keto/low carb has been working great for me. I'm never hungry, and I'm very active most of the day and work a physical job. 6'0 200lbs~ fatty on about 1500cal a day. Last time I tried losing weight I was starving all the time.
Make sure you get your fibre though. For the love of god do not neglect fibre.
>>37305903
You're right, my TDEE + activity = 3000, my bad.
>That's not the case at all. Carbs are usually less filling or nutritious. Out of all types of foods, ones that are high in carbs are the ones you can cut out the most.
That's literally COMPLETELY missing my point. Wether it's making me feel full or if it's nutritious or whether I can cut it out or not, it's still the amount of kcals that count. Like I said, I'm on 2400, which is a cut of 600 kcal.
My question still stands.
>>37304956
I work in a grocery store
>>37305928
Explain.
Carbs are still 4 kcal per gramme. If you claim otherwise do convince me.
>>37305927
>>37305930
Sorry, I'm not OP.
>since extra calories burned is worth it anyhow.
That's not the point, the point is, if you (someone) want to cut, eat at a 500 cal deficit.
My BMR is around 1800, I burn around 600 when I workout, that's 2400 TDEE. In order to cut ~0.5 kg / week, I should eat 1900, not 1300.
>>37305944
It's not like it's some radically alternative heart rate routine: it's literally just keeping your heartrate up. C25K uses it.
>>37305975
Top post on reddit says c25k is not a hiit program.
>>37305877
Calories are calories when the only thibg in question is losing weight. However, there is more to losing weight than numbers on a scale. Many things from how much energy you have during the day, to how much muscle you lose vs. how much fat you lose, to your goddamn mental wellbeing depend on or are heavily influenced by the composition of your diet.
>>37305944
I'm not him.
HIIT burns more calories than steady cardio over the same timespan.
I read a paper on it a long time ago, don't really wanna google scholar it atm, but you're free to do so.
>>37304956
you don't have to be this autistic about it but otherwise solid advice, you can't eat what you don't have
>>37305953
>it's still the amount of kcals that count. Like I said, I'm on 2400, which is a cut of 600 kcal.
Well, for one thing, I doubt your TDEE is 3000 even with activity.
You've already mentioned that you crash at 11. Carbs are not a great energy source (also why no-carb or low-carb diets such as psmf and keto lose weight extremely fast). A better choice would be foods rich in healthy fat and protein.
Once again,state your goddamn height/weight/sex. It's the only way we can help you.
>>37306008
That sounds pretty obvious. The thing I'm wondering is if the overall work out is better. 20 minutes of hiit or 45 of steady state.
>>37306000
stats: 187cm (6'2 i think) . 83kg =183lbs . 25 y/o
My Daily Goal kcal: 2,400 carb 210 fat 80 protein 210
thoughts then?
>>37306021
Stated, the stats posted are mine
>>37306059
2400 really does seem like an excessive amount for anyone trying to lose weight
>>37306092
sticky gives me a TDEE of 3050.
minus 500-700 (the calculator in sticky does 25% deficit) means 2400 kcal.
and I've been eating as how the sticky tells me. tell me what's wrong with that.
>>37306008
>>37305975
Of course it does, but you won't be able to maintain a HIIT level of exertion for as long as medium pace running. It evens out. This other anon is trying to find out what is best for fat loss overall.
Do none of you have sources?
>>37306039
Another different anon here. In my opinion it doesn't matter that much. If you prefer steady-state, that will serve you much better in the long term than forcing yourself to do cardio you don't enjoy.
>>37306103
whenever people talk about cutting, i see them talk of calorie goals around 1400 - 1800. saw a guy boasting that he was cutting on 2000cal a day, but he was already built as fuck. definitely an exception
eat less carbs, they're not filling. i can eat a bowl of brown rice and be hungry 10 minutes later, whereas 250g of grilled chicken will keep me saited for hours
>>37306059
you're eating over your sedentary TDEE, no wonder you're not at your desired weight yet.
site is tdeecalculator.net
Way too many carbs and too many calories. A good ratio to eat at would be a lower-carb diet (IE: Max daily carb intake of 150g, and even that's kind of pushing it). I've found lower carb intake is way, way way easier to lose weight with.
>>37306103
you came here for advice, don't get fucking defensive you cocksucker. You obviously aren't getting the results you want, so why not shut the fuck up and listen to the people who have actually managed to do what you're trying?
>>37306039
I use to do a steady state only, but now I do both. In doing HIIT I've discovered that my breathing was improved when I do my steady state cardio.
As for calories burn it's the same during the work out. Just do what you enjoy more. I like both, so I do both. HIIT 2xwk and steady state 2-3xwk
I don't even do cardio and the fat is melting off.
Keto is wizardry I tell you hwat.
>>37306195
would i lose more on keto than a regular cut?
>>37306222
keto is only for extreme cases imo. It's not necessarily a healthy way to lose weight, just very very fast. Better for obese people since they have so much extra bodyweight anyhow.
>>37306222
Like others have said, you will never be hungry on low carb/keto.
My goal is 1500 but I often struggle to hit that cause I feel full all the time. I lift 5x a week, and I'm far from small or sedentary.
>>37304956
>>37304956
based
>>37306129
much appreciated, but you're telling me my mistake has been in overeating 150kcals?
What your argueing is 'fullness', but if I'm sticking to 2400 with carbs like that, managing my 'hunger' or 'fullness' as you'd like. I still don't see how that's something I should improve as I basically have the determination to live with that
continue to enlighten me senpai, I am questioning because I want to understand instead of just accepting and doing whatever someone tells me to
>>37306242
You don't need some meme keto diet though, just lower the carbs. I get some from kidney beans and onions (I love me some quorn chilli), and I bought some mussels today that have are 3/1 protein/carbs cause they were going cheap.
Just don't eat bread. Or rice. Or oats. [spoiler]i know, drown me[/spoiler]
>>37304956
saving this for when i move out
based
>>37304956
THIS MAN KNOWS THE TRUTH.
>>37306270
Since when did spoilers not work here?
>>37306253
http://www.youmeworks.com/whylowcarb.html
do some googling yourself next time.
>you're telling me my mistake has been in overeating 150kcals?
You're eating at a surplus of 150kcals. That means you're gaining weight.
>>37306283
no spoilers on this board.
>>37306253
don't expect in depth technical explanations from 4chan, just accept that the overwhelming majority of people here use a method different than yours for a reason
>>37306283
I don't know, but you look silly
>>37306312
i know
>>37306242
BMI 30 with zero muscle here
fat enough for keto?
>>37306244
Hunger is not really a problem, i find it quite pleasurable
My issue is that my weight loss has slowed down from 1kg/week to ~300g/week despite adjustments for lost weight and it's killing my motivation. Would keto fix that somewhow?
>>37306292
how much g of carbs would you recommend me for my stats?
>>37306366
I'd recommend PSMF as opposed to Keto.
>>37306366
It's worked for me and several others. Like IF, it's just something else to try.
There's something to do with carbs being quickly used as energy or stored as fat, whilst protein is slowly absorbed as fuel for the muscles, but I'm not gonna pretend to be doing anything outside of regurgitating facts from youtube videos.
Just give it a go, it's worked wonders for me.
>>37306376
Same I'd recommend for anyone, a max of 30% of your intake.
Your ratio for carbs/fat/protein should look like 30/30/40.
>>37306380
why?
from a 15 second look at wikipedia it seems even more hazardous for health than keto
>>37305877
>what is insulin sensitivity and why should I improve it during cut
>>37306423
Do whatever you want man. Either way it's gonna lose you weight.
>>37306396
>mfw
don't even use whey
>>37306441
what the fuck are you eating? Show us your diet.
After years of berma bulking, I need to cut. Badly. I feel fat as fuck and my clothes aren't fitting properly any more.
>6"3 270lbs
>Bench 345lbs
>Squat 475lbs
>DL 550lbs
I feel like I need to get down to around 220ish to get into the teens for bf%. Not looking to get super lean, 15% is fine. My goal is to hit 220lbs by October. Does that seem too optimistic?
>>37306468
>keeping muscle and losing fat
>cutting 50 pounds in 5 months
choose one.
>>37306457
i don't eat the fish any more, cause it tastes like depression, and i upped the chicken to 600g. so a little more fat in there
also i don't add in veg/milk for coffee which is 100cals/10g carbs
You guys must have DYEL metabolisms if you think cutting on 2400 is too much calories.
I'm a manlet and have been cutting on 2500 calories and I've lost 16lbs (190 > 174). Lifting 4 days a week and 30minutes of cardio everyday. I'm staying at 2500 until the fatloss stops, then I'll only drop it down to 2400 and increase cardio to 40minutes a day and that's usually enough to get me shredded at 160 or so.
>>37306491
also ignore the tomatoes i stopped using those. they had a fair amount of carbs which aren't displayed. you get used to the bland
>>37305556
Sprinting, without ANY doubt. Sprinters are lean, marathoners/joggers look like aushwitz survivors.
Treat sprints like reps, and do them in sets.
>>37304956
This one hundo percent
Also drink more water
>>37305571
That.
Hungry? Eat a brocolli.
Don't want brocolli? Then you're not hungry enough.
>>37306491
>600g of chicken
>over a pound of chicken every day.
jesus fucking christ that can't be cheap.
Also double check all your nutrition facts, myfitnesspal gets a surprising amount of them wrong.
>>37306508
>You guys must have DYEL metabolisms if you think cutting on 2400 is too much calories.
more like we like losing weight efficiently
how long have you been cutting?
>>37305762
You're doing it wrong..
Cutting means Cutting carbs OUT of your diet...
>>37306552
i've checked them, they're within 15%
i buy the poorfag value frozen chicken fillets, 1kg bags for £4. i worked that out at £16 a week, maybe 20 now i've upped it to 600g
covered in spice it all tastes the same. my spice pack is 4g carbs 40cals, but most is left on the tray
>>37306582
>2.2 pounds of chicken for $6
what magical paradise do you live in where chicken is that cheap
>>37306611
bongland
they're frozen offcuts but chicken is chicken right? i dice and nuke it. covered in spice and boxed up for work, it feels like fast food. mentally that really helps
Keep protein high(1-1.2g/lb bw), and cycle your carbs so that you have more on a training day than on rest days.
If you want something sweet to stop you from breaking your diet, sugary cereals with unsweetened almond milk or jellies are perfect as a post workout meal to replenish glycogen stores along with a protein shake. 5g/day of creatine will help to keep your strength levels too.
Use a tdee calculator online and work out your tdee. Subtract 500 and use my fitness pal to track calories to ensure you stay on track.
When you start to plateau, eat one or two days a week at maintenance or slightly above
>>37306628
make sure to include spices in your calorie count.
>>37306059
Remove carb, add some good fats, like an avocado and coconut oil. Probably reduce overal numbers too, Your calories intake still seems high. I'm 6'1", 180lb, 30y/o, and during cut I consume 1400-1500 cal per day, stay active, and feel great.
>>37306572
lol, fucking DYELs get off this board
>>37306719
he's right though.
>>37306785
no he isn't
not unless you're literally 8% bodyfat trying to get down to 5% bodyfat.
you're all just the reverse of perma-bulkers....you bulk on 7000 alories a day and get fat as fuck, then when it comes to cutting time you drop your calories down to like 1000-1500 calories a day like fucking idiots.
and then you wonder why people like me (who aren't fucking retarded with their nutrition) can have shredded abs while still consuming 2.5k+ calories a day
>>37306826
what does this have anything to do with carbs
>>37306851
My macros at the start of a cut are
160
80
500
by the end of a cut in which i get S H R E D D E D my macros usually end up around
160
80
200
I am still consuming 1000 calories/day from carbs alone at the end of a cut. To say you need to remove carbs all together is fucking spastic.
>>37306931
fucking hell I don't know what to believe anymore.
>>37306942
don't believe him. He's full of shit.
>>37306931
500g of protein
yeah, ok.
>To say you need to remove carbs all together is fucking spastic.
no one ever claimed that.
>>37307177
lol...do i really have to name each macro? wasn't it fucking obvious? how fucking dumb are you to assume the 3rd 500 figure was protein? are you fucking dumb? kill yourself maggot.
160 PROTEIN
80 FAT
500 CARBS
>>37307618
It's usually F/C/P
>>37304956
I do this but i have one problem. I cook it all at once and devour
>>37306039
Its like no one even thinks
Steady = more reps
HIIT = heavier weights
The answer is do both
>>37306242
Should i keto? 6'3 390lbs
>>37306611
>2.2 lbs for $6?
What the everliving fuck?
I get 4 lbs of thigh cuts for $4.24
>>37304849
This
>>37304956
>have kids
>don't buy them total junk food but also not going to restrict them to a diet of chicken and brown rice
>forced to have "bad" things in the house like peanut butter and jelly and breakfast cereal
JUST
>>37306611
chicken is always $2/lb here in the midwest and sometimes goes on special for like $1.67/lb
u jelly? xD
>>37304844
Diet, eat enough protein and lift to preserve muscle mass. Unless you have none, in which case just diet.
>>37308760
>Peanut butter
>bad
Why?
>>37306527
What sprints are good?
>>37306283
back to /v/ fampai
>went to scooby's calorie calculator
>gave me a TDEE of 2996 with a desk job/little to no exercise
>recommends 2200 a day to lose 1.5lbs a week
I've been eating 1800 a day and I don't have a desk job, I work in a factory assembling machining parts.
>>37308760
You're a faggot and should stop lifting if you think PB is bad. It's like the backbone food of bodybuilders. That and chicken
>>37305608
>Swimming
do I have to do laps or can I just splash around in the pool and have fun?
off topic question but um whats that greek yogurt that /fit/ likes?
>>37305998
Reddit is right for once. C25k is interval training for noobs getting ready to do 30 mins of steady state. If the noobs HR is 85% of max or higher, the noob is doing the program wrong.
>>37310131
greek yoghurt and cottage cheese are GOAT for protein.just dont fall for the "greek style yoghurt" scam.
Greek yoghurt is always strained and has very high protein.supermarket chains like lidl and walmart sell shit with half the protein and added sugar and shit.
Can anyone recommend a good HIIT routine?
Mile time is 6:35 if that helps
>>37307906
Not on this board amigo
Calories in and out, focus on that shit. Don't worry about the carbs as much but don't go fucking crazy with them.
>>37309738
peanut butter and jelly, not just peanut butter
peanut butter is pretty high calorie to begin with, but jelly and bread are very empty calories
>>37310433
run steady state for 3 miles,then do 4 sprints of 100m each,then run 50m 4 times with knees high,then 4 times with straight legs,then rotate between sets of crunches,ab scissors,pushups,back extensions,back scissors for 3 mins and stretch.
Red pill me on carb/protein/fat ratio.
>currently 189
>trying to lose weight
>set "goal" weight to lose at 1.5 lbs a week
>2050 cal intake a day
>50%carb/30 percent protein/20 percent fat
What the fuck. I thought it was supposed to be low carb diet
I just want to eat again bros
It's so sad not having my late night snacks.
I'm not even fat, I'm like 10-12% now. I just miss it. That and cereal. If I have cereal in the morning it means sad lunch.
>>37310433
fartlek
set up a box like pic related
sprint the 50m, walk back around to where you started. then spring the 50m + the 100m, then walk around back to where you started. then sprint the 50m + 100m + 50m and then walk back to where you started and then sprint the whole box
>>37310580
This is what I do
Find a football (soccer) pitch and run laps
3 laps : Sprint the short side, slow jog the long side
2 laps : Spring the long side, slow jog the short
1 lap : Sprint 1 short and 1 long side, slow jog to the end
Don't go easy; you have to really fucking kill yourself on each sprint, and learn to recover while still moving
The goal is to do it like a pyramid
3 (sprinting short)
2 (sprinting long)
1 (sprinting half the pitch)
2 (long)
3 (short)
Ideally do a pyramid as a whole without resting, but it'll take a while to build up to that. Have rests between each level if you need it - it's more important to keep the intensity up while you're sprinting
Dunno if this is proper HIIT, I just made it up, but I play football at a pretty high level and it improved my performance a lot and got that bf% down more in half an hour than my multiple 1hr plus runs were doing
Started 105kg. Target was 90kg by July. Currently at 92 and able to see visible progress. Going to try harder and see if I can make it to 85 but happy either way.
Going to the local pool tomorrow, if it's fun want to make it regular.
>>37310501
Know that feel. I used to eat heaping bowls of cereal. Gutted to find out I was chomping down on 600cal a bowl. I have it now only twice a week when I know I'm having a light dinner.9
>>37310501
Just do more cardio? Idk why people say don't eat back burned calories. I get that it's hard to estimate how many calories you burned but it's trial and error
>>37304844
Hey OP, is that an ISIS cream stand in the background?
Oatmeal in the morning
Chicken and rice for lunch
anything for dinner
>>37306121
>>37306180
How many mph do you get to when sprinting and in between?
>>37304844
Since when did juggernaut join with terrorists?
>>37304956
Absolutely this. If you need to snack, make it celery/peas/carrots. If you're really hungry you'll appreciate it. If you don't want it, you're not really hungry.
Lab rat mode: Every time you don't go out to eat or by snack shit, write down the amount of money you would have spent, and then buy a game with it or something besides shit.
>>37306270
You on paleo familia?
>>37304844
>sticky is pretty fucking vague
>Eat less
>Exercise more
What part of that didn't you fucking get you fat tub of shit?
>>37310119
>do i have to swim or can i just play and make splashy splash with my autismo hand flipping?
You can just sit on the edge with your legs in the water. That's enough for your dumb lazy ass. Now go be fat forever.
>eating over 100g/day carbs while cutting
>>37311755
I was in the gym for about 5 hours the other day due to not having access to my normal gym, instead got a day pass and did a full body workout. The gap between the calories I burned compared to the amount took in was pretty huge, not sure if I should have are more for that day but it but it made about 3 days progress in one day
>>37306628
>offcuts
What does that mean?
Offal? Feet? Necks?
>>37306611
I buy chicken in 20kg boxes for 1.2dlls
>>37316679
1.2dlls/lb
>>37305603
This is fucking wrong and im tired of seeing it. To burn FAT you need to do nothing/ slow cardio. If you do HIIT you strait up burn glucose/glycogen. Your body wants to burn fat because it is a more saturated with H atoms, but it takes more time. Your body needs instant ATP when doing high intensity. Dont eat carbs early and dont do ANYThing is how you accually burn fat. Please explain to me how you lose fat through HIIT?
>>37308760
throw out the cereal bro, seriously. Make your kids oatmeal in the mornings.
>mfw /fa/ knows more about cutting than /fit/ does
>>37304870
>>37308316
and this
Is it a bad idea to mostly eat chiken while cutting? I've had about 700 calories of chicken already and might eat more later... I find it so easy
>>37318059
Sure
>trying to cut when the rest of my family loves junk food and always buys tons of it
I'm learning a lot about self control.
>>37316914
I agree. Fat is used for energy during not so demanding hours. Speed the metabolism and the body turns to glycolysis.
>>37305957
Then don't eat your fucking product
Tell us why you support isis and I'll tell you all my secrets for cutting
Can I use carbs if I'm already lean? TDEE is 1400 and my diet:
>200g chicken
>200g beets
>300g rice and beans
>200g sweet potatos
>free coffee and tea
Should I use a little of peanut butter to get more fat and reduce carbs? I find it so easy using a lot of vegetables since they fill up very well. I don't get the same from fats.
>been a fatty since junior high school
>5'10, was 315 last September
>finally decided to start losing weight, started cutting
>scale today says I'm just above 270
Am I gonna make it, anons?
>>37318480
I was 316 lbs in February, this morning I was 275.
Also I'm 6'4"
>>37306283
what the fuck are you going to spoil in the fitness world?
>>37318480
You will if you cut more
This shit is about willpower and dedication.
I'm 6'3" and I used to be 300lbs just 4 months ago now I'm 180lbs.
>tiny 5'4" turbomanlet, 155 lbs
>want to cut to 135, 130, maybe less
>eat ~1200 kcal daily
this is fucking awful, fuck cutting. any other manlets relate? i can't eat fucking anything
>>37318549
I'm going slower because I don't want to suffer any more loose skin than necessary.
>>37318887
>losing 120 pounds in 4 months
How?
>>37312702
No I just prefer eating simple foods. Most of my meals would be considered ingredients by others.
>>37314452
Usually anything but perfectly cut breast, wing or thigh.
Last bag was all shoddy cut breasts that probably got rejected for display as fresh. Thanks, trainee butchers.
>>37318258
Exactly.
>>37304849
>>37319851
>How?
Intermittent fasting
Heigh: 5'10''
Weight:~175 but it fluctuates
Eating around 1800 calories a day with 100 carbs allowed.
Good cut or suggestions to improve?
Honesty, if you're fat and track what you're eating it's pretty easy. I do food prep weekly, and was 284 at the beginning and am roughly 248 about 4 months later. You can do it man! Just have to want it bad enough. Hell, i barely even do cardio. I lift 3 days, rest, repeat.
Can't help but stuff my face when I'm feeling down.
Any way to fix that other than miraculously develop some will?
>>37320288
Just gotta want it dude. When I'm at work and see the vending/soda machine i think to myself, will the short term effects help me? Fuck no. Once you start seeing progress you get addicted. I'm gonna keep cutting until I'm fuckin shredded. Also, find someone to go to the gym with you
>>37320288
>other than miraculously develop some will?
Sorry to tell you this but you will never make it.
The first ~3-4 weeks are always the worst, but after that you just simply aren't as hungry anymore and the calorie goals seem more reasonable when your appetite is more relaxed.
>>37310467
Keto ftw
>>37320344
I want it most of the time, but when things go bad something switches in my brain and I feel like nothing matters and nothing will ever get better, might as well enjoy myself for now.
>>37320374
I meant to say that I want some advice beyond "lol dude just don't"
>>37320483
Make sure to allow yourself cheat days, but factor that into your daily intake. Don't go over your daily amount if at all, ideally. I'm doing it dude, you can too!
>>37304844
>make a myfitnesspal
>buy a food scale
>buy a regular scale
>cut carbs to 5-10% of your diet
>track and record everything
aint that hard guy just refeed once a week
>>37320483
>I want some advice
From your posts I can see that you don't give a fuck.
Just continue stuffing your face because "you feel bad".
Cutting is not for people with no willpower.
>>37320578
I dropped 13kg in the last three months, I'm just trying not to fuck up whenever I feel like shit. Why not go into a fat hate thread instead, anon?
>>37320647
If you're gonna have a pity party, expect responses like that desu. You just need to kick yourself in the ass and do it.
How the fuck do I cut while injured? Just keep protein really high and hope for the best? Getting a menisectomy done and currently have some elbow tendinitis going on. My surgeon says I can work out 100% after 6weeks..Should I just bite the bullet and go to some maintenance calories so I heal proper.
>tfw I wanted to make it this summer
>>37320647
>I'm just trying not to fuck up whenever I feel like shit.
Don't let your emotions dictate what you do. Are you a girl or something?
>Why not go into a fat hate thread
I'm just giving you motivation.
Prove me wrong by actually cutting and reaching your goal.
>>37320483
work towards your cheat meals. even scooby says have 1 - 3 cheat meals a week
just don't go over maintenance for the day and fuck everything
>>37305556
Sprinting while high and rowing while high gets pretty crazy.
>>37310501
>tfw been cutting hardcore
>one night get high and eat a shit ton of food
>look at myself in the mirror and feel like shit instantly
>throw it all up
OH BOY DANGEROUS ROADS HURRR I CUM
>>37320705
You'll be fine just eat properly and you'll be good. I took a 6 month break from the gym and ate like a dyel and when I got back into the gym about a 2 months in my lifts went up 50kg. You'll most likely go up in weight.
>>37304956
but i live with my parents and they feed me
t. 24 year old
>what does t. mean?
Before I started actually cutting I wondered why people made such a big deal out of EC stacks and appetite suppresants, but now that I'm in the middle of it I wish I was on one. This is torture.
>>37319640
>5'3 womanlet and 1200 is what I cut at
>always over, but at least under my maintenance (1500-1600)
>"losing weight" so slowly I may as well not be cutting
>not fat at least, just kind of flabby
>tfw permacut
Part of the trouble is that there is NOTHING to do in my current area except stay home and eat all day. Hopefully after I move the area will be exciting and I'll be out of the house. I never have an appetite when I'm out of the house, and I'm also kind of aspie and don't like eating out because I don't know what they put in the food or where to get it or how to order or what they would have. If I am studying at a cafe for example, I google the menu on my phone and cross reference all the calories before I decide to order. I don't want to go up to the counter and look at the in store menu because the guy will just stare impatiently and it's uncomfortable. So thanks to autism I almost never order food out.
how dangerous is throwing up after youve failed and binged? heard the stomach acid can fuck up teeth? what else
>>37322312
You'll get ulcers too.
Just fast for a few days, nigga
>>37322312
I used to be bulimic for about 1 year. I never had any downsides but i really wouldn't recommenced it. Fucks with you mentally
>>37322077
>Part of the trouble is that there is NOTHING to do in my current area except stay home and eat all day.
Go
Out
And
Run
Rabbit
Run
Rabbit
Run
Run
Run
I essentially eat the same breakfast/lunch every single day, and from there its pretty easy to gauge what to eat for dinner based on if I am cutting/maintaining/bulking.
I'm 290lbs and cutting on 1400 calories a day. I was doing keto for 6 months but I want to transition to a moderate carb (100~) vegan (no memes pls) diet. I am so fucking paranoid about gaining the weight back or that I will stop losing weight if I go off keto even if I stick to my deficit. I've lost 75lbs already and I'm determined.
>>37322312
Suffered from bulimia for awhile. Don't do it. It's a terrible habit to break. I still do it sometimes if I binge on a day (not even a real binge...just like 2000 calories) and it fucked up my teeth pretty bad.
>>37304956
And dont forget to eat before you go
Being hungry at a grocery store is a diet suicide
>>37324139
ABORT ABORT ABORT.
At 1400 calories a day you're entering Protein Sparring Fast territory. You're going to need at least .7 grams per pound of lean body mass or you will start slowly losing muscle. In your case, that's probably somewhere around 110 grams of protein daily.
Getting that protein on a vegan diet while keeping calories below 1400 is going to be rough. You'll need to use a blend of rice/soy/pea protein powder.
If you're going to go vegan, use a more reasonable deficit - somewhere around 1,800 calories.
If you can handle being an ovolactarian then cottage cheese/whey/egg whites can easily get you your protein.
>>37304844
>sticky is pretty fucking vague
>>37324231
Thanks for the advice. I could up my deficit some since it's a fairly high deficit right now. I am vegetarian right now and getting protein has never been a problem but I can see how cutting dairy/eggs out of my diet will make protein harder. I do enjoy some vegan meats that are high in protein so I think I'll be okay but I do see your point.
>>37310131
I always get Liberté (a brand of yogurt here) 0% fat, natural. Taste like shit when you're not used to it, though, but I like it like that. It has 13g protein for 90 cals.
>>37320483
You can't really want it some of the time.
I've been there too, not sure of your circumstances, of course. The trigger for me was laying in bed one night and just looking down at my disgusting obese body and thinking of how shit a person I am. Like felt all over myself, got up, walked to mirror, felt like crying. I thought "Tomorrow" and then corrected myself and said now.
if youre not a fat fuck, then you're still doing the same thing. it's not so much "lol do it" as it is no one else can make the decision for you dude. your decision should be absolute imo.
>>37324139
Do 1200cals a day, nigga
>>37314319
why so little burned anon?
>>37306320
Or you could sperg about it less and pretend that it was an injoke for crossposters.
>>37317146
Yeah no I've seen those threads.
>>37318345
>TDEE 1400
>"lean"
stop being so spooky
>>37321151
Testosterone
>>37320140
Yeah man, that 3500 daily defecit sounds totally legit if it's from IF.
If you intermittent fasting you mean "not eating for a couple of months a year" that is.
>tfw you realize exactly how much you fucked up your bulk when you cut from 160+ to 153 so far and don't see any visible fat loss
On a side note, I've been irritable as fuck on my cut so far, is there any way I can fix this?
>>37306129
>tdeecalculator.net
Thanks for the site. I'm not OP but at least I have a vague indication of how much I need to take.
One quick question:
Does HIIT help burn fat? I'm saving a lot of money for a three year gym membership I'm supposed to buy in september (If nothing bad happens) but in the meantime I wanted to start HIIT excersices.
DEAD THREAD
>>37304844
It wont take the pain away bruu
>>37306103
Dont listen to this summer fags you are doing well. Calories are calories eventhough im cutting with keto and eat low carb it doesnt mean they are evil. A low carb diet will help you lose more fat than anything else and keep your muscles but it doesnt mean thats the key to lose weight you lose weight in a deficit period.
