>Night run
>perfect weather
>sublime subtle breeze
>empty streets
Fuaarrrk man I feel so much better after stressing too much about things. I have been running for a couple years now but I still can't seem to shut off my brain while running.
>>37250510
>can't seem to shut off my brain while running
You're not running fast enough then. Force your brain to focus on your running by pushing your limits and perfecting your technique. Set a sub five-minute mile as your goal.
Im new to running, currently run 5k 3 times a week. I am interested in doing them with a weighted backpack on, does anyone know what benefits doing weighted jogging gives?
>>37250680
Tactical advantage. I do the same.
You can go full /k/ and head innawoods when it matters.
>>37250680
it wrecks your joints
>>37250680
Your joints wear out 4 times as fast
>>37250694
I do all my runs innawoods already
Fuck running roads with all those disgusting normies about
>>37250510
why all women cant just look like this
>>37250665
Damn makes sense. I have been taking it easy since I injured my calf years ago. Hopefully I can get better soon. Great advice, much appreciated man.
>>37250680
If you have to do it, don't do it too frequently and not for too long. Like the other anons said, bad for the joints, even more so considering mundane running can be bad for the joints if done with poor form and little rest between sessions
>>37250735
>>37250707
>>37250703
Hmm maybe I wont then
But how come the military do it if its so bad for you?
>>37251418
Because soldiers have to be able to run with their equipment. No need for a civilian to train running with weights.
Anyone have any tips for morning running (10k-15k)?
I'm currently an evenin/night runner after I've had my day's nutrition and have no issues. Trying to run in the morning I get wobbly legs 4k in and and my whole body struggles. My performance is shockingly reduced compared to night. Any way I can get enough nutrition in time to fuel?
I usually do the same as OP. However I'm trying to run a mile with out stopping I get tired after half a mile and need to rest for like two minutes. Been doing this for weeks now but I can't break through to do more. Am I doing it wrong?
>>37251418
They also dont run on pavement/concrete.
Is jump roping good cardio? Do any of you do it?
>>37250510
Running sucks, I only do it because I'm cutting.
>>37252370
Run slower
>>37252370
Have you tried shortening your strides?
I recently figured out that the main reason I was unable to run for more than max. 15 minutes in the past two years was because I was too eager and taking too long strides. Now my ankles are no longer burning, my face doesn't get bright red and even after 40 minutes without pause I feel like I could go on further. Perhaps this can fix it for you as well?
>>37252424
I recently picked up boxing and yeah I do it.
I can run 40mins without stopping but god damn jump ropes fuck me up in 10mins.
To answer your first question yeah they are good cardio
>>37252424
Jumping rope is _great_ cardio.
I find it hard on my knees, so I don't anymore, but if you can jump rope for a solid 10 minutes you are in the top tier.
>>37251418
Because the military uses up people in their prime and spits them out once old.
Anybody have flat feet here? Been running on and off for 2 years, recently got serious about upping my speed/time. Don't know if I should get insoles in normal running shoes or by custom running shoes to fit perfect on my feet.
>>37250510
>Tfw living in Mexico, one of the fewest places in the country where isn't safe to go out after 10pm
>JUST
>>37250510
Do you carry water with you? I want to start running but i'm afraid i won't be able to run more than 2km without some H2O. Also Is there a good distance for the beginner or am i supposed to run untill i won't feel my lungs? Do you lisen to music while running?
>>37253799
Got a 5:54 1mi with flat feet and shit broken shoes. I would assume getting good running shoes would help, but I doubt insoles would do much until you'd been using them for a few months and got use to it.
>>37254230
I never bring water with me but if you get thirst it wouldn't hurt to bring some as long as you just take sips. Couch to 5k is great for beginners since it has you alternating walking and running to build up a pace.
Just pace yourself then build up distance after that. Make sure you run with good form(don't over stride, run with your legs under you, land with your midfoot). I rarely am out of breath after I run but midway I always tend to mentally fatigue but I just push through it to go into cruise control.
I do listen to music when I run. I recently stopped though because I was listening to the same playlist over and over.
>>37250510
Run at 5 am, same advantages.
>>37254230
I listen to podcasts, helps me zone out.
>>37250510
How do you increase speed?
>>37256955
what about your knees guys?
>>37256974
What?
>Australian
>Night run
>Desert, cold as fuck windy shit fuck
>Cars drive past yell shit at me
>'OIiiiiii CUnnntttt' as they take off into the night
>Looking over my shoulder for aboriginals
>gotta watch out for snails crossing the footpath
>If I step on one I end up vomiting and having PTSD about it for a week
>See headlights approaching
>Brace for getting yelled at
>lucky.jpg
>walk past traffic camera, big fucking black spider scares the fuck out of me
>Just wanna get /fit/
>>37257072
Man i'd love to run at night in the desert, shame it's filled with creatures that will kill me if i'll get near them.
I used the C25K to get up running for 30 minutes non stop (didn't measure distance but probably close to 5K) but then I got lazy over winter and I had to start all the way back on week 5 when I started running again(run 5 mins, walk 3, x2). Is it normal to lose this much endurance if you stop running for a couple months?
>>37256955
The most important thing is to finish the distance without a pause. The speed comes after and you should always try to run a constant pace the first half and speed up the second half.
>>37250510
Running at 5:30pm is the best because you get to see all the cutie runner girls who go after work.
>>37257072
Eat some cement and harden up CUNT
>>37257374
Yeah that's pretty normal. You should try do it just once a week at least, I've been doing that since I finished C25k and I've still kept my endurance.
>>37257374
Yeah. Gotta keep it up bruh.
>>37250718
Meanwhile you're a carbon copy of every dudebro complete with shitty tattoos.
>>37258443
found the woman
>>37258492
Mad cause your style is shit and you've gravitated toward nigger culture because you're an insecure fuckboy?
>>37258548
>woman saying nigger
LONDON
I moved to colorado 3 months ago and my 2 mile run time has increased by almost 3 minutes. I can't seem to get it down :(
>>37258591
Start 420blazing and forget about running.
>>37258591
Wait for that red blood cell count to climb, you swamp-dweller.
Do your knees just need time to recover? I swear there is some sort of substance under the kneecap that re-generates
I hate running because my thighs turm red and I get itchy as fuck, does that mean I need to run more?
When does it stop
What do I tell people who say running is stealing my gains? I care about heart health :(
>>37253645
You mean like the world?
At least the Military reaches the top physique
>>37252317
Tried to stretch and bend etc for longer than usual?
I "have to" stretch for 15-20 minutes (rarely, but it happens) some mornings..
Prefer to run @night due to cleaner air and body is all warm and flexible
>>37262010
It will if you don't eat enough. But generally people are too dumb to understand that.
HIIT is good for them gains tho
>>37260756
Lose weight fatty
>>37252241
Facepalm. Ever heard of a firefighter?
>>37255052
Actually heel striking doesn't increase injury chance if your body mechanics lend to that form. They did a study that said basically strike where it feels natural.
Doesn't running fuck up your knees?
>>37263210
It depends on how fat you are and how bad your form is.
>>37263393
67kg. No idea on my form.
Is 0 to marathon in two years doable? How long after quitting smoking can i expect lung improvement? Smoking for 5 years ~20/day. Slightly overweight.
>>37251418
they only need you the 4 years
its like everything in the military - built to last only the life expectancy of each unit in the carnage of combat
in my country, the equivalent of marine recon units had a life expectancy of minutes in combat
>>37263479
> Is 0 to marathon in two years doable
Depends on a lot of factors. That might be overreaching. Maybe just get a plan and see how you respond to it. (c25k then bridge to 10k then some 10k to half marathon plan)
> How long after quitting smoking can i expect lung improvement?
You'll notice a huge change after 2-3 months of training smoke free.
>>37263479
>Is 0 to marathon in two years doable
yes. Absolutely. I did it in 6 months. I hadn't done cardio in 5 years when I started and the first time I ran I couldn't do 1 km. Then I ran every second day and atfer 2 months I could do 10 km in 50 min.
>on week 5 of c25k
>literally struggled with running a minute in the beginning
>just ran 8minutes twice with a 5minute break inbetween
next time is 20 minutes straight, no idea if i'll make it
>>37264372
It's all a matter of whether you've learned how to run slow enough so your chest doesn't give out first
>>37263479
I am 5'10'', was around 73kg of pure fat (amerifats probably think i was skinny) 11 months ago. I started running on july 1st, tracking my runs on july 7th. July 7th, I ran a 3.5km in 23:20, average time of 6:39 min/km. I had to walk 3 or 4 times.
Yesterday, I set my new PR in half marathon. I ran 21.19km in 1:50:10, average time 5:12 min/km.
I didn't try to run more than half marathon by now, but for example if I took slowed tempo and did 21km in 2:05:00, I am pretty sure I could run for another 10km. The point is, with proper workout plan I can get to 42km in few months.
I didn't smoke and I am young though. When I started I was 19. You are probably a bit older, and damage from smoking will hold you back a bit, but in 2 years you can definitely get to running a marathon.
Shin splints
What's wrong with me? I midfoot strike, my cadence is good. I'll warm up run ~7:00 pace for 3-5 miles, cool down, stretch, and still feel shin splints 3 days after.
>>37250510
>>37250510
don't forget
>runner ass
>>37263403
I'm 182cm/80kg and my knees actually feel better after I've started running 3 months ago. At first they were sore, but I ran through it and now I run 5-10k 5 times a week and, with proper stretching after the run, they don't hurt at all.
About form - don't place your feet too close to each other, don't turn your knees inwards, put the feet in a way that feels natural to you. Keep your back straight, look straight ahead, don't look down. Swing your arms front to back without any side motion. Don't clench your fist, imagine you're holding a piece of paper.
>>37264837
I get more calf gains than anything.
Been running for 4 months, its actually getting fun now. First 2-3 months of learning to run were hell faM. Training towards a solid 10k now
>>37257072
Most of the time I don't even remember Australia exists, but when I am reminded of its existence I can't help but wonder why anyone would want to live there.
>>37267053
>tfw you feel you're getting to old for girls in their prime..
fuck.
>>37262081
Agreed. The military just doesn't hide it. And at least they get tri-care in the US.
>>37250510
I can't run any ways let alone walk these days but is it true running is bad for you? Eg. overly hard on your body. I've heard walking/speed is sufficient enough.
>>37267118
People have been running long distances ever since the first person existed hundreds of thousands of years ago. The reason you love fit asses is because we are runners meant to fuck and make more runners.
>>37251418
>But how come the military do it if its so bad for you?
Do you have any idea how many people come out of the military with fucked up knee, ankle, and back problems?
>>37257072
>'OIiiiiii CUnnntttt' as they take off into the night
im in tears
>>37257259
>Running InnaDesert at night
>80°F (Arizona)
>Switch headlamp on high
>eyeseverywhere.png
>turn headlamp back to low
>keep running
i have a budget of 150 euros what are some good running shoes ?
>>37251418
>military
>giving a single fuck about their people
Pick one
>>37268658
Stinson Hoka One One, possibly the best running shoe out there!
>>37250510
Try to focus on the breathing, the impact, the sounds of the world, the sights.
Usually the meditative state happens in longer runs. Like over 3 miles, once you get your second wind, the endorphins flow, and you just get in the flow of the movement.
It won't happen every time, but when it does it's pretty awesome.
It's summertime and I want to get into running for the heart gainz. I'm trying to build muscle though, so I need to consume enough calories. If I start running, is it as simple as eating the amount of calories I burn on top of my normal goal? Also, when is best to run, b4 or after workout, and can I drink Gatorade or something while I run for ez calories. Last question, is there a routine or something I can follow? Or can I just go out and run for a set amount of time/distance and get better each time?
>>37271027
If you're going to run the same day as lifting, it's better to run second. You can run decently if you're tired from lifting, but the strain on your nervous system from a good run will likely make your lifting session less effective. There are different running programs out there. If you've got terrible cardio health and have basically never run before, Couch to 5K isn't a bad place to start. But there's nothing stopping you from just running.
So how do I into running when I have a breathing condition? I've been swimming for awhile, but my doctor says running would be even better because the bouncing breaks up mucous in the lungs to make it easier to cough up, but it's for that reason that I completely suck shit at running. Like I have a lot of trouble getting through the first week of couch to 5k.
Wat do?
>>37271177
What's the breathing condition?
>>37271196
Cystic fibrosis. I take bronchodilators (albuterol and some ephedrine) before any kind of exercise, but it still isn't enough to get through, and I'm worried I'm legit going to pass out due to low oxygen
>>37271230
That's tough man. I'm no expert but if your doctor said you can run, then keep at it, over time your body should slowly adapt and you can run longer distances without flare ups. Go easy though, you don't have to run long and hard right away, build up to it over a period of a year, stay consistent.
Keep swimming too if you can.
>>37269729
Meme pillows. Regular runners from Brooks, Mizuno, or Saucony are far better.
>>37271177
Just run as slowly as possible while doing c25k. You can work on getting faster later.
Where do you guys run? Just on the side of the road?
I'd like to be able to run at night, but I live out in the middle of nowhere where there are no street lamps, not to mention no sidewalks.
>>37272248
Yeah, I just run on sidewalks mostly; treadmill during the winter.
>>37272248
If there aren't many cars, just run in the road in the day. No one cares. They'll give you room.
>source: I'm a middle of nowhere runner.
>>37272248
Find a park with an unpaved trail if you can
Invest in a headlamp
I need some help here /fit/, i have really really bad cardio, i can run almost 2km at 10km/h untill i'm tired, i runned for three months and the best thing i could accomplish was 6km nonstop at 7,50 km/h and my skelly friend can run 10k in 50m without trouble and almost never runs, the thing is i'm not fat or anything, i do a lot of pushups/pullups/bwsquats, i've always had bad cardio, for example i went mountain trekking with a group of 50 people and i was one of the lasts, even guys who smoke and never exercised didn't feel a thing, another example is that i went cycling with my 55 yo dad who only plays sports periodically, and he was going slow and confortable while i couldn't keep up
So, I'm pretty new to fitness and I'm currently down 31 lbs, starting at 260.
I do 20 mins of cardio, running roughly a little over 2 miles, then I lift weights, and then I finish off with another 20 mins of again, 2 miles for a total of 4. I do this 4x a week.
Is this too much cardio? I'm barely on month 2, so I'm obviously not lifting super heavy or whatever. But, I heard that doing too much cardio will limit the amount of muscle you can grow.
I guess my overall question is, is it ok to do this amount of cardio for weight loss while lifting weights?
>>37272668
40 minutes a session
160 minutes a week
about average
>>37272688
Should I aim for a little more?
>>37272714
if you actually like doing cardio, go for it
if you're doing cardio for weightloss, HIIT for 3 hours total a week should be much better
>>37272737
When I first started weighing at 260, I fucking hated it. But to be honest, now it's kind of nice as I use it as a moment of reflection. Plus, I actually enjoy knowing my body can jog at a certain speed for a good amount of time (for me). So I guess I'll stick with that.
Thanks for the advice!
Is running enough to get some leg gain? or I should add some legs exercise to my routine?
>>37272803
Running won't do nearly as much as add leg exercises to your lifting, and the power you gain from lifting will help with you running.
>>37272398
Work on your pace and breathing. You might be mentally exhausting yourself too.
Anyone have experience with cooper tests? my goal is 3k in 12min, but fuck me those are the longest 12 minutes ever
>>37267276
Gotta love Australia
>>37250665
this is true, but it takes a good amount of time to get into the groove
i fucking hate running, it sucks, only doing it to try and be a naval aviator
fuck running
How to tell the difference between a shin splint and something more serious (i.e. stress fracture)? I only feel pain (and slight pain at that) if I apply pressure against the edge of the shin bone on the inside of my leg.
Also, how to get rid of shin splints in general? Loads of resources online recommend stretches like rolling up towels with your feet, walking on your heels. Anybody have experience with this stuff?
>>37250510
ceca makes my dick diamonds
>>37253866
>be mexican
>running as usual at 11pm
>see some suspect cars with no plates
>keep running
>feeling a little tired
>a bunch of pickups with soldiers appear
>they stop and try to enter to a house
>run like the living hell
>more cars with no plates appear in the way
>keep running almost shitting my pants
It was a 4km way back to my house, i hate this city
>>37251418
Because getting shot is worse than fucking up your knees
And when you have your rucksack on you're usually just marching
>>37257072
>i know that feel all to well
>always checking number plate to see if there is a P plate attached anywhere near
>if there is, brace for verbal abuse or a large frozen coke to the head
>>37274669
Simple rule of thumb, if it hurts take it easy. Rest it, let it heal.
Pain is a message, it says if you keep this shit up, you'll regret it
Shin splints can turn into a stress fracture if you aren't weary.
>>37276298
I thought you were meant to run through a stitch though?
>>37272398
Make sure you don't have like a congenital heart defect or something. If you're just really out of shape, get a chest strap heart rate monitor. Figure out your max heart or just use the shortcut ( 220bpm - your age ), figure out your resting heart rate. Run 3 times a week staying just under 70% of the range between your resting and max heart rate. For me this is around 150bpm depending on how good shape I'm in. If your heart rate goes over, slow down or walk. You'll see good gains in endurance in the first two months, and then they'll slow down, but you should still see gains. The other half of the equation is hard workouts where you get your heart rate up over 85% for a sustained period of time. Do that at least once a week.
Tl;dr read about heart rate monitor training.
>>37272668
If it were me, I'd only lift one day and only do cardio the other. Cardio gets a lot more fun after about 30 to 40 minutes. You get that runners high, your body switches over machinery to pure endurance and your heart rate can actually drop even though you're doing the same work and you've already sweated out a bunch of water.
>>37274669
Rule of thumb: if it hurts 2 days in a row, take 2 days off.
>>37257072
This is me too :( except in the burbs and add refugee migrants sitting around doing the "OYye coont"
>>37264722
What shoes? Try running on grass.
>>37251418
former soldier here
Did a lot of rucking in my days, and everything from my lower back and down is basically broken.
You will be fine in your twenties, but it catches up quickly
Complete noob to running here. Is there a way to train for higher elevation when you live in a flat area? I'm doing a mud run in the mountain so I'm trying to account for altitude
>>37277845
Oxygen deprivation masks.
>>37277183
Thanks i did 3 studies to see if i had anything wrong with in my heart, in one of them i had to have a holter monitor 24h taking my pulse and heartrate, but it seems everything is ok, just a minor arrhythmia because i'm still growing apparently even though i'm 19 but the doctor said it shouldn't have any impact on my performance, also he said i have trouble getting my heartrate down when i did a treadmill test(it took 6m to slow down compared to 3m which he said was normal), how much should i run those days, should i count time or distance? I stopped running because of shin splints.
>>37273875
Thanks a lot, how can i learn the correct pace?
>>37278104
When it takes your heart longer to slow down, that's an indicator you're just in bad shape. Still recommend the chest strap. You'll feel like a do of us the first few times you go out but it's great for making sure you're working your aerobic system and not your anaerobic.
Just keep at it and you'll get there.
>>37277916
I was reading about those and it seems like they don't work. Do you have personal experience with them
>>37278297
Doofus*
>>37258548
How I picture every girl using the word fuckboy
>>37250680
Do not do this. You will fuck up your knees and ankles and there are literally zero running gains to be had.
Source: old fag who has seen a lot of people destroy their bodies being retards.
>>37251418
Because they dont care what happens to you when your old.
>>37263210
No. It actually strengthens them so long as your form isnt retarded. Also great for bone density - maybe better than weight training.
>>37266509
Forefoot stiking.
>>37276971
That might be one of those exceptions
>>37262440
>"they" did "a study".
Well if thats the case...
>>37279457
Everybody heel strikes when the pace gets fast enough. Watch a miler as they move from cruising to an honest pace to a surge or kick.
>>37252910
Didn't do running for a year now atleast. Tried it today and met a friend, we even talked while running and I easily did 5k while talking just by using shorter strides. (Didn't check the time cuz I didn't take ma watch and not gonna take my watch for the first month) So if I'll get in shape again it'll be a breeze I guess.
How do you get into running when you're obese?
I'd like to be able to at least run a mile in 7-8 minutes without being winded at the end of it.
Right now, I'd say I could run half a block and be completely winded.
>be me
>obese
>training with Marines
>want to be fit
>they're all fit
>i'm 300 pounds and jerk off to night elves
>can't even do a pull up
>needed two of them one on each leg to help me do first pull up
>lose 80 pounds
>doing 20 pull ups
>100 crunches in under a minute
>still can't run for shit
>time myself on a mile
>10 minutes
>worn out at the end
>omfg
>can't breath
>dying
>start just doing 1/3 miles, or 1/2 miles instead
>same results effectively
>run with the boys
>falling way behind
>Marine stays with me, 'cause he knew I couldn't keep up
>slower than walking type of jog, 'cause I know I have to show I'm putting in effort
>hit second wind
>start running
>woo nigga
>leaving the other marine dude behind
>not really, he's keeping up, just in my head
>felt so good
>puked once I reached the bathroom in the office
That's the only time I've ever experienced a second wind.
How do I trigger that more often? I've never gotten a push like that before?
>>37280939
Your body switches the systems it uses at a subcellular level throughout a run. You really start to notice the difference at around 30 minutes. Or at least I do.
If you want to build endurance, go slow and go long. Keep your heart rate down. Keep your pace "conversational" meaning you could finish a sentence with out having to stop and take a breath. When you're endurance training, you shouldn't be winded. If you are you're going too hard and you'll be working your anaerobic systems more than aerobic.
>>37281514
>>37280939
Cocks
>>37281563
>>37281514
Motherfucker, fuck it. It's not playing nice.
>>37281514
I guess that was the only time I'd had to run for that long of a time.
We ran from the recruiting station to a basketball course, played basketball, and then ran back with a lap around the complex.
I was fucking done before we made it halfway to the basketball course.
>>37280872
Walk, walk until you can walk a lot. Like 4 hours of walking, build up to it. That'll strengthen you up, build some cardio, possibly reduce your weight. Once that is easy start a like jog, and slowly add more time over the course of a few months until you can jog for 30 minutes.
You can do it, it'll just take you longer than average, be pateint, don't rush it. Your joints ligaments, and tendons née time to adjust.
How come my knees hurt the day after I've run for 30+ minutes? It doesn't always hurt, but it does when I have to do stuff like walking stairs. Usually it's gone the next day.
Should I worry? I'm running in the forest with proper running shoes.
>>37272398
sounds like anemia
>>37282404
I have the same problem, chronic knee pain. I took two weeks off, but then went hiking and it got super bad on the way down. So I rested more, now I do dynamic stretjes before the run, and walking and hjgh knees, etc, afterwards I walk a lot as well.
They are doing better, but still will hurt the next day, usually up the stairs, but somtimes just walking. Sometimes it's different pain too, for a while the IT band was getting inflammed.
Idk honestly I even stopped lifting. The only advice I have is not to ignore the pain. I did and it got severe after a long week of hiking. Right now I'm slowly easing back into running.
Some say it might be hamstring or hip tightness. Idk, I do a little yoga sometimes now, not sure if it helps. Maybe just getting older.
>>37282503
I never ignore pain, I guess my description was a bit vague, it's like muscle soreness except with my knees. It goes away completely with one or two days rest.
I just want to know whether I should worry or if I'm freaking out about nothing once again.
>>37282583
Idk. If it goes away, just make sure you give it adequate rest time to do so.
Where does it hurt when you go up stairs? For me at the front of the knee cap is a sharp pain.
>>37282609
It's a dull pain below the knee cap to the outside.
>>37282670
No idea, just watch it to make sure it doesn't get worse. Rest it, ice it, etc.
>>37282698
>>37282670
You should ice for bruises and swelling, use heat for joint pain
>>37282583
runners knee has tons of causes and remedies
maybe rest longer next time, like a week or so, so it can heal fully
also do stork stretches before and after running
>>37282979
I've read plenty that says static stretching near running is not recommended. But the stork stretch is probably a good idea throughout the day. It would probably help my tight hamstring, because I'm guessing the cause is the quadriceps.
>>37282609
Poor lateral stability can lead to a lot of problems since runners do every thing front to back. Try adding some clam shells, side leg lifts, side steps, carioca, etc to your routine.
Lower leg strength or a change of shoes could also help.
>>37251418
Because the only thing more in-stock than Tylenol is bullets.
>>37250680
If you want to make the run more difficult without hurting your joints just run after fasting
Is running on a treadmill still good? Does it translate to improved road run times?
What do you think of using a stair master ? I find its brutally good cardio
im trying to go for a half marathon.
Run my widest so far with 18 km today in 1:23:00.
Thoughts? Is it good ?
>>37283359
Treadmill running is still good, but it's easier than running on the roads. Still, it's much better than nothing.
If you want to get faster, you should focus on running. Stairs are like accessory exercises, they're useful, but shouldn't be the main part of your training program. Stadiums are fantastic to build anaerobic capacity, though.
>>37282670
One-legged squats are good for improving stabilizer muscles. Also, make sure your IT band isn't tight, that can sometimes cause knee pain like you describe.
>>37278297
Thanks for the advice, i doubt i can get a chest strap, but i'll see if i can get something to see my heartrate, also do you think 30m 3x a week should sufice?, going at a confortable pace for me it'd be 6:30-7km, i can hold that for 1h. Also any advice on shin splints?
>>37282452
how can i tell if i have anemia?
>>37283509
No. I don't think it is. I definitely couldn't come close, but that's not good.
18 km in 83 minutes is 0.2169 km/minute
A high school kid can do 5km in about 18
minutes.
5km/18 minutes is 0.2778 km/minute.
I think you can definitely get to a half marathon, but yea, you're kind of slow. Push yourself harder.
>inb4 autism
>>37283509
>>37283726
This guy is retarded. 7 and a half minute miles for a half marathon is good. You're not going to the olympics, but it's good. And a 5k is a short distance and high schoolers have insane max hr's.
>>37283509
better than most of the people on here. dont know what the fuck >>37283726 is on... "a high school kid can do..."
yeah nice comparison bro lmao
>>37283193
Have you been to a dedicated running shop?
If you can afford it then getting a gait analysis and custom shoes will prevent most of these issues before they even occur
>>37284680
Always wary of this sort of stuff. I'd encourage people to work on improving form and strengthening weaknesses instead of trying to compensate with a shoe. I also kind of think pronation is more like posture than something you just are. You can improve it through effort and strengthening the right muscles.
>>37262421
Well not everyone is a firefighter dickhead.
>>37251418
the military uses people up and spits them out
why are over 50% of homeless people in the d.c. area veterans?
why is the largest demographics for suicides the military?
>>37284680
I mean, right now I will try to build back up. I think I would see a physical therapist first, unless those specialty shops actually have someone like that doing the anaylsis.
Kinda skeptical like >>37284781
We'll see, I got new shoes, Nike Vomero 10. Dynamic stretching beforehand. Another anon said do clams, karoake type of stuff to build up other muscles.
I think honesty the big thing for me was too much too soon, and last summer too much tennis. I got up to 6 miles in 2 months in addition to squatting and deadlifting, and the pain started but I kept going. Should have backed off sooner. So now I'm going slow.
>>37277845
This is why I loved living in Santa Fe. The city is 7,000 ft above sea level and I could drive up to the ski lodge to be at ~10,000 ft and do some running up there. Fucking amazing. I need to leave this shithole asap and move back.
>>37283359
I get too bored running on a treadmill.
>>37253866
I have a stadium like ten blocks away from my house so I can usually get a good run anyway, but I feel ya.
>>37274833
Where do you live? Sounds like you're up north as well
So how to run without fucking your joints? I am around 200 lbs and there's a park nearby so I can run on ground tracks.
>>37283359
>Is running on a treadmill still good?
Only if the weather is horrible.
>Does it translate to improved road run times?
I started running on a treadmill, when I could run for 12 minutes straight I switched to outside and could only run for a little over 2 minutes. So I'd say no.
>>37288062
>I am around 200 lbs
lose about 30lbs you fat fuck
>>37250510
>third world country
>night run
>bandits and gopniks everywhere
>stray dogs running on streets
Yeah, no thanks.
>>37288062
lose weight
>>37288676
>>37288691
So you shouldn't run at all if you are overweight?
>>37288697
Just walk, minimum 3km.
>>37288697
swim and eat less
>>37288683
Gopniks are alright, there are almost none where I live. Stray dogs, however. These are terrifying.
>>37288701
Walking is too easy, I want to run. WIll it be too bad for joints if I start before losing weight?
>>37288827
>Walking is too easy
Try 3+km everyday. Too easy, walk more.
>>37288839
To get tired I would need like 10 km every day, and where am I supposed to find this much time? Running about 4 km, which I do, takes like four times less
Guys, I've only been able to do 5ks in 30 minutes for the past month and I feel stuck.
What the hell can I do to get faster?
>>37288890
Try to run faster. Try treadmill.
Just made an appointment to dry needle my shin/calf on Saturday.
Does anyone have any experience with this? What can I expect?
>>37288890
interval training.
longer runs.
speed will come over time don't rush it
>>37288827
depends on your weight
>>37288676
i was running at 250lb im 175 now
>>37288938
200lb, for how long did you run before losing weight?
>>37288951
i didn't loose weight through running i was only running twice a week, was mostly diet and moving more in general.
i dad the old couch to 5k over 12 weeks or so then just my own thing
i now do 6k mon,tue,thur,fri with lifting and park run 5k on sat. i'm currently trana loose a few pounds 4 or so for my holiday then i will do a slow lean winter bulk. i dont want to improve my running above 10k or so because i dont want to look like a marathon runner.
i trained mostly on a treadmill at home but now i run outside more with the dog.
i found it helped with my running by setting goals so i booked my self in for a 10k and dad that in 50min in feb i have another booked for sept and hope to get between 40-45 min. theese days i have no problem with just going out and doing a 10k in the morning and don't really need to prep for it.
ask me anything related. :)
>>37288989
pic for fun
>>37262421
Ever seen a firefighter and a soldier after 40 years of age? Yeah, arthritis. No matter how good you are, it will hurt your hips, knees, and ankles.
To be honest tho, it's fine because it gives me work as a physical therapist.
>>37289212
people run all their lives in to there 70's 80's
>>37271230
CF?
Yeah no, don't do running. Try brisk walking as a beginning sport though, and work your speed up until you go jogging afterwards. Nail your breathing pattern so it won't make it hard for you to continue.
Go more like brisk walk > faster brisk > jog, do not run until you get advised by your pulmonologist.
>>37289228
>run all their lives into their 70's and 80's
Sure, but you do have to remember that the point taken was that he was wearing a weighted vest.
>>37289011
You're from Congleton m8? Sandbach here
>>37289280
no crewe how old are you
>>37289260
I've been thinking of wearing a weighted vest for a while as i don't want to run further
>>37288812
I remember in Russia I went on a bike ride with a family friend, older guy, scary kinda. And he was running, when like 30 digs roll out towards us and I'm like O fuck. And then he emits this super sonic whistle and they all scatter.
Shit was crazy.
>>37289292
22, why?
>>37289484
jus curious i know allot of people in sandbach lived and worked there a few years
>>37289484
congleton park run is pretty good if your in to running i do it every sat at 9 am with around 200 people
>>37289495
Ahh, I lived in Holmes Chapel until a couple of years ago and I was at uni until recently so I don't know many people here
>>37289530
I'll bear that in mind. I tend to run along the canal here because I try to avoid roads when I can, got a nice little 5k route mapped out and I usually don't have idiots getting in my way.
Thinking of joining a running club though, need to push myself a bit harder
>>37289593
lol i used to run middlewich canal at night, dangerous when wet. never fell in though.
>>37289593
do park run its only 5k and you get free chip timing every week
>>37289610
Will check it out some time. Thanks m8
What is a reasonable time for running 5km? I'm at 32 minutes and 20 seconds right now.
>>37291099
average is 26min on the park run i do with 200 people
Is there any good resources or guides for finding out what running shoes are best for you?
I need a new pair, don't really have a limited budget. Should I just go to the outlet mall and try on random pairs until I find one that feels good?
Any brands I should focus on or try to avoid?
>>37291561
some shops will record you on a treadmill and try to get the best ones for you go outdoors do it in the UK
>>37250510
>being a pedestrian
>>37291620
who the fuck u calling pedestrian
>>37250510
when I run, my lower back slowly starts to ache, up until I can't really run anymore. it happens after about 10 minutes. it is not anterior pelvic tilt. what do?
>>37291687
try to wear a compression top i did this when i had a shoulder injury. failing that take painkillers b4 u run
>>37250510
I would run 100 miles through broken glass with bare feet while licking the dog shit on the sidewalks every few steps just to suck the dick of the guy who last held hands with this girl.
>>37291687
Core. Mat pilates flat on your back to unload the spinal muscles and focus on the abdominals.
Its gonna be hard as fuck, go slow, don't cheat. Maybe run again and see how you feel in a month
>>37281771
BHS?
Burbank area?
>>37291687
Strengthen hips and core. Stand tall when you run and make sure your leaning forward from the ankles and not your hips. Ankles hips and shoulders should make a straight line when your foot hits.
>>37250510
i just started jogging a month or two ago, 2 miles at a 10 min/mile jogging pace, maybe once a week . by the end of the first mile my knee hurts like a bitch and continues to hurt all day and most of the next day. i practice good form: a mid-foot strike with short strides and upright posture while trying to minimize impact, and i only weigh 145 pounds. should i just quit running and do some other form of cardio if its fucking up my knees this badly?
>>37293823
Stop immediately when anything begins to hurt. If you hurt at one mile, stop at one mile.
Also, look up some injury prevention exercises. A lot of knee problems can start somewhere else. Weak hips, poor lower leg or foot strength, etc.
How much do you guys run? I've been running quite a but lately. Pic related are my runs for the month of may. I want to hit 20k soon, any tips? My run last night is my current record as far as distance goes.
>tfw knees hurt
>tfw all these miles
Still run slow as fuck.
>>37293823
I'm working through this same problem anon
For me it's weak glutes, especially glute meds, and a tight IT band
Are socks important for running? I heard somewhere that longer socks provide more ankle support and prevents injury. But I can't find any legitimate evidence to this.
Also, I've been lurking on /fit/ for 3 years but hardly felt any need to post until now. Is it just me or has the general quality of posting gone down? Did something happen to the board demographic? (I'm too normie to keep up with this stuff)
>inb4 /fit/ was never good
>>37295528
>running
>ankle support
meme
>>37295528
>Is it just me or has the general quality of posting gone down
>>37294323
60-65 miles per week
>>37294323
>tfw knees hurt
how do I make it stop
am I just getting old? fuark, I need like 7 days to recover now or else my knee keeps me up at night
have one of you got the couch to 5k picture with everything on it? I need it, got to start running again
>>37254264
Chew gum. It helps with the dry mouth while running.
>>37295928
no, but I can help
step 1: get off couch
step 2: run until tired
step 3: repeat
>>37295950
anon's guide to shin splints, everyone
seriously. no beginner runner should be running more than every other day for at least two weeks
>darn tough medium cushion no-show tabbed socks
>merrell vapor glove 2 shoes
>icebreaker merino briefs
>smart wool phd running shorts
>Outdoor Research swift cap
>Tifosi Veloce sunglasses
>G02S media player and Panasonic RP-HJE120-K earbuds
Does anyone else know this level of /comfy/ running?
I hurt my muscle going from the side of my butt going down top outside part of my thigh today
Any know the name of the muscle and any good stretches for it other than this one?
Is there something like a /fit/sticky, but for running? Does anyone know?
Here's a running feel I still remember that I'm sure many of you have. Didn't read the whole thread so if someone else posted something similar then I suck cock etc.
>get really in to running
>go from running a mile a day, to two miles, 3 miles, 4...etc.
>start working on pacing and getting my times down for specific distances
>focus on 5ks and get "really fast"
>praised by friends and training partners and build up courage to sign up for a 5k in town.
>so damn ready to win this shit, fampai
>it's kind of a challenging course, but feel great
>run a low 17 but still get beat by a man twice my age, a woman in her 40s, a kid who looked middle school age, and a few others.
Kind of a mixed feel desu. It's really cool to see that (at least at the smaller level - not Olympics and shit) it really does come down to just putting in work. Anybody can do it and there are ass loads of awesome runners out there.
I was still pretty disappointed.
How many clothes do you put to run when it's cold outside? like 12° or lower.
>>37295928
>couch to 5k picture
which one exactly? there are a few ones when I fucking google image search couch to 5k god damn it
>>37262081
>tfw civilians act like they know what it's like to get fucked
The va, my command team, weekend staff duty, armorers, my command team, change of command ceremonies, weekend cq, shitty cadre, cooks, my command team, cif, and my platoon sgt have all fucked me harder than your cunt mom ever could. You wanna know what really getting fucked is like, go infantry in the 82nd
>>37296026
your IT band?
the stretches for it are kinda weird, just look some up on youtube
>>37296066
wait, so you just started running a few weeks/months ago, signed up for your first race and expected to win it? mate...
>>37296268
autism
>>37268738
Found the pacifist in touch with feelings but not reality.
>>37296026
Foam roller
>>37289238
The pulm cleared me for that, though
>>37296268
>Here's a running feel I still remember that I'm sure many of you have
>followed by describing going from not a runner to a low 17 on a "challenging course"
If you can't understand that this implies passage of time in excess of a few weeks, idk what to tell you. Where did I imply it was so short?
Also, I may not have been super confident I'd win, but I thought I'd have placed better. The whole point of the story is to highlight the types of people who beat me.
post 5k pr's
18:35 here
>tfw times get slower as you work legs more at gym
n-no pain n-no gain r-right?
>>37298213
16:31
>>37298213
Not bad, man. Sub 18 is cool guy status. Pretty close.
16:48 for me
>pic [semi] related: Some random Inter-branch race and shitting on some airmen and soldiers.
>>37298248
It's pretty sad, lad. I am definitely happier being a bit slower with some muscle, though.
>>37251418
I'm a medic in the Army. All we do for musculoskeletal stuff is refer you to the doc if you were carried in, and if you walked in we give you 800 mg of ibuprofen.
The Army doesn't give a fuck. They would rather medically discharge the ones that break than change the training. A medical discharge is a small thing, signed off by a doc and then by the commander of the soldier. Doctrinal changes are slow and tedious.
The big green weenie takes the path of least resistance, and more often than not, it is right through the soldiers.
>>37298213
16:34
much better 3200:
9:55
Anyone did Couch to 5K? There's an app for it.
>>37298284
Good form.
It makes my knees hurt when I see ads and stock photos with fitness models over striding and heel striking.
>>37298423
Hundreds of them. Just pick one.
>>37298213
16:11 for me.
