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>cbt
>all hail your twink god edition
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>>37246445
Mirin. What's your diet like?
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>>37246445
Natty? Either way, how long? Height/Weight?
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>>37246470
Pizza ;^)
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>>37246445
the lesbian is back
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>>37246470
frequent intermittent fasting, no snacks or dessert, try not to drink your calories, and really protein heavy. i'm really flexible with it and intermittent fasting allows me to cheat fairly often at social events. it's simpler than people make it out to be.
>>37246482
natty, 5'5 145
>>37246498
and you're still mirin brah
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>>37246445
how long have you been lifting? whats your workout
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>>37246510
Do you track your calories? Last time I cut I was tracking my macros/calories eating meals whenever I wanted. I always thought IF was a meme. But desu I'm kind of sick of weighing out my food all the time. I only do it because I'm afraid of over/undereating.
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>>37246510
5'5................................ 145lbs.......................
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>>37246549
over three years and it's like PPL with two extra days for whatever i want to hit twice
>>37246551
i don't track calories. IF isn't a meme, it's so simple, it just limits your diet to what you can stomach in a smaller sitting. it also prevents me from grazing all day due to boredom or the munchies. i smoke so much weed.
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>>37246445
Mirin.
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>>37246551
>>37246510

IF'ing is pretty awesome for cutting/maintaining, 9/10, would recommend.
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>>37246599
So you eat twice a day 7 hours apart? That's all there is to IF? I'm really interested desu senpai
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>>37246628

You can take this one OP. Plz help this gentleman.
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>>37246445
Post lewds this time, before you leave after being bullied by meanies here.
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>>37246510
>5 foot 5

Wow.
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Two months old but my latest progress pic
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>>37246956

Mirin leanness and overall physique. Happy trail is pic related tho.
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Thoughts?
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>>37246445
>>37246599
Mirin hard, nice proportional physique
>>37246956
Fuark nice seratus and vascularity

Just hit the gym for the first time in 2 months, shittiest workout of my life but it felt good. Did a little bit of everything low weight high rep and did compounds with just the bar to get back into things slowly instead of going to snap city

5'6
145 I think
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>>37247335
need some more pecs work.

lifts?
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2.5 yrs of lifting
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do you think i can make significant size gains after this cut is finished? been lifting for over 3 years now

19 years old, 5'8 and like 185-190lbs currently. i want to lose 15-20 more and then do a clean bulk. i learned my lesson with the last dirty dreamer bulk.

i dont want to use any gear but still want to get much larger
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5'7"
150 lbs
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I feel like my body looks weird as fuck
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>>37248333

Doesn't look weird, looks entirely average dyel now. Grats on the weightloss though.
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>>37248071
nice arms. where r ur lats m80
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>>37248294
Most aesthetic here.
Mirin hardcore, any new pics? Also how long lifting + lifts?
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>>37248870
Are you retarded?
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5' 10.5"
140lbs

Kill me
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>>37246445

you skipped nipple day
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>>37248294
mirin hard
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>>37248388 right here
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>>37248940
Thats my body mode ;_;

Also I am at 6 feet.

We Make it??
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>>37247335
You'll make it soon. Needs a lot more mass but good baseline aesthetics. Most normies probably think you look perfect already but we have higher standards.
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>>37246445
post hair dude u looks sick all around
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>>37246510
Any rough estimate on how many daily calories you're taking in, on average with respect to fasting and whatnot?
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>>37246445
How long have you been lifting and what are your lifts?
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Trying real hard to lose some weight, and feel like a new person before i end up killing myself.

Doing the lp workout along with 30 minutes of cardio and cut out all the shit from my diet.

Wish me luck /fit/!
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>>37246510
>5'5
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Can I be your twink prince?
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6'2 195, 5 months lifting
> tips brehs
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Intermittent fasting? That's what I call the span between cheesecakes. Eat big to get big you "twink".
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>>37246510
>5'5
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>>37246510
>>37249629
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>>37249548
you're gonna make it bro
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>>37249629

>caring what women think

>nu male detected
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>>37249629
>caring about thots opinions
Kek brother dont fall for the manlet meme
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>>37249571
you need to clean your room desu, it's stressful to even look at.
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>>37249629
>implying womens opinion matter
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5'5 125lbs

3.5pl8 diddy
2pl8 sqwat
1.5pl8 bench
Nearly 1pl8 the press

Tfw only made CNS gains and Arms are tiny
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Bulk or cut? 6'3 195
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>>37249749
definitely bulk.

And focus on lats man, they ain't even there
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>>37249749
Bulk all the way, baby
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>>37249629
>trying this hard to make an anonymous person on the internet feel bad about themselves
you'll never make it
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>>37247356
>just hit the gym for the first time in 2 months
That explains why you're wearing pants and a sand tee to show off in your tech school. Fuck off, boot
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>>37248071
ARE YOU STILL HERE ROUTINE?!
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Only about a month of lifting, but I'm determined.

Already feelin it
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>>37247335
Do you shave your legs/body? Got any tips?
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Never get any replies or feedbacks on this shit. Fuck.
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>>37249981
Same bro
You're definitely goals tho
>>37249899 is me
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>>37246445
>5'5
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>>37248940
Bro carl sagan was the shit
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>>37249749
fuck man nice arms. Natty?
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>>37250072
Yes I'm natty. I run lift or train muay thai 6-7 days a week. I feel like I eat a lot but it's difficult for me to put on weight. I almost want to cycle something but I don't think I will.
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>>37248294
Nice fuckin traps, bro.
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>>37248958
>mykeks.jpg
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6'0
220 lbs

Just started lifting a few days ago. I've cut out soda and junk food completely and I'm only drinking water. Have just dumbbells and barbells and I'm going to attempt squats today for the first time. Planning on getting a bike today so I can work on cardio. Read the sticky but any other tips that helped former lard asses?
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6'5.5 me on left, my m8 is 6'4
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>>37250294
You and your m8 must not be very good friends
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>>37250286
>former
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>>37250324
I mean people who were fat but aren't fat anymore friendo
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>>37250286
Don't get discouraged. It will be some time before you see any results, and even then you can't let up. Lift, bike, run, play a sport, do whatever you want just do something and stick to it. Oh and eat less. Exercise is half. Diet is the other half.
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>>37250324
He didn't say he's a former lardass, he asked for tips from former lardasses, learn to read.

>>37250286
If you feel like binging from time to time, decide a cheat meal and plan it with your family, so whenever you feel like, you can remenber you will have it.
This is a long run, you can do it.
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>>37250286
Sweets are pretty easy to cut you loose the urge after a few weeks. I wouldn't quit junk food entirely or you might burn out after one or two months. Just make sure you're staying calorie deficient and drink diet/zero coke instead of normal soda. Honestly to begin with just hammer gym into a routine and you'll make it brah.
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>>37250324
Holy shit your retarded
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a little over a year. finished my cut a bit early and not sure what to do from here.
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>>37250294
El Chad is EATING TACOS
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>>37250460

Was it all cut? Your before pic looks exactly like me, never seen a body match mine more. Will be very happy if I can get like you after a year.
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>>37250548
4 month cut > 6 month bulk > 3 month cut.
you can do it bro gL.
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>>37250574

Do you have any pics from after your first 4 months?
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6'2
185lb
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>>37250594
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>>37250632

Thanks, just like seeing how the dimensions change, worried I'd end up refrigerator mode but this, yeah, more than worth all this.
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>>37250657
>more than worth all this
learn to enjoy it, my dude. i have friends on faceboook and shit that always talk about how "hard" it is and are so melodramatic about it. i don't understand that mindset, going to the gym is fun as fuck. once i started my second cut i started lifting in the mornings because i could eat a big breakfast and lift with a lot more energy, and it was a struggle at first because i was so excited to get up and lift i couldn't fall asleep, even if i knew i wasn't going to be making progress on my lifts.

find fun and enjoyment in the process and it will never be hard.
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>>37250294
wew you're friends with Daniel Faraday
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>>37249616
pussy slayer/10
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>>37250597
nice proportions nigger

also looking kinda swole for 185
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What do fitizens?
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>>37246445
Wow great man. Is you are real OP then I swear you are greatest person in this board.
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>>37246510
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>37249981
It's because you're a manlet brah. It's the reason why nobody gives a fuck about feather weight fights. Building muscle as a manlet is easy af.
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>>37251949
welcome friendo
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>>37251848
Go to germany enjoy welfare and rape sluts.
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>>37250294

those shorts make you look like a homo

just saying

well its 2016, good for you
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>>37249629
Tfw under 6ft and still laughed at these comments. Been dating the same girl for 8 years now and she's taller than me. Has an incredible body too. I'm skynnyfat dyel that just started working out a few months ago, Im not rich either. She honestly cares about me. Also why are there so many overweight women posting shit like that? Is it that they try to create a high standard (pun intended)to explain why they don't have boyfriends?
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5'11
175lbs

How long and how much weight should i lose to get to see the abdominals?
I have no idea how to cut...
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>>37246445
I'd like to see a moderately hairy chested version of something like this. Anyone?
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>>37252132
Hair don't look good on sculpted bodies. If u go bear mode it's ok.
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5'9" manlet reporting in
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>>37252163
I thought as much but I'd still like to see one.
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>>37252114
If you dont have abs with that bf, you need to train them.

Im like 15% bf yet i have abs because i train them
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former fatty
5´7
165lbs

dead-440lbs
bench-265lbs
squat-400lbs
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>>37252211
>dat swole-ness
>dat baby weight

dafuq mah nigga
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>>37252168
looking good faggot
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>>37248294
Someone skipped leg day XDXD
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>>37252182
I do train my abs and ive even started training them 2 a week now. I think that my body fat is placed mostly on my abdominals becouse around my arms i really dont have much fat. I guess its just genetics becouse i do feel my abs just under a layer of thick fat. Sometimes i can see a 4pack when i dont eat for a couple of hours and under a good lightning.

What kinds of abs exercises do you do?
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>>37252412
Then you havent trained your abs for long enough or you are going too pussy when training them.

You should have a good set of six packs with that bodyfat.

Just train them very hard and intensive. Its abs, theres no special exercise that will give them shredz
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Started about 2 months ago, ~6ft1 132lbs
Dont know if I should cut for summer or just start bulking
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>>37246510
>twink god
>5'5" 145

O I am laffin, and im a fucking manlet. Good luck going through life looking like a child
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>>37246956
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>>37246510
>natty, 5'5 145
HAhahahahahHAHAHAHhahhaha
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>>37246488
>while your in the PIZZA, JIM is eating CHAD
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>>37246510
Hahahaha i was mirin until now!
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>>37246445
Damn son nice-
>>37246510
>5'5

Can't win em all!
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>>37249629
>Tfw 200cm
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>>37246445
>twink

That's classic fuccboi mode
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6'1
200lb
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This isn't super recent but am I out of dyel at all yet
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>>37253012
>solid thick tight
how much do you squat?
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>>37247356
Boot fuck
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>>37246628
i don't follow IF pedantically. in concept, if i overeat, or i want to cut, i can immediately begin a fast.
>>37252554
if there was a greek god of twinks, that would be me. do you honestly think i struggle with girls or my height affects my life in any way?
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>>37253070
You're certainly on your way body wise, I imagine your lift aren't all that great tho, no offense.
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>>37253370
the bootest lol. what an airforcefag
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>>37253387

Yeah, when you want to get something off the top shelf
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>>37252525
Don't know if this if b8 but bulk bro
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>>37253406
What do you think my lifts are, out of interest? Curious. I think my lifts are ahead of my physique.
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>>37253859
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6'0
194lb.
Down from 210lb in August, also when I started lifting. Started cutting around March.
First time posting in CBT.
How am I looking /fit/? Will I make it?
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>>37253299
just repping 220 lb occasionly, i'm training legs very softly
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>>37253859
blahino mode
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>>37254047
surprising. i woulda guessed you were a big squatter
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>>37254022
LOL what
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>>37254023
cut that belly you and you just might. you got a decent chest coming out, but the rest of your muscles feel neglected. i'd go after those lats for now.
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>>37246445
>twink
>faceless
>muscular
>5'5
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>>37254114
Thanks for the input!
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>>37254082
i wish my shoulders could grow that easy.

you just swinging light dumbells and you friends suddenly asking you to stop train your delts cause them starting became too big
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>>37252663
>JIM is eating CHAD
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>>37249749
kik?
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>>37254204
No
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>>37254204
>>37254491

kek
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>>37252525

Cut for summer lol. You are as thin as a toothpick, You need to bulk obviously.
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>>37254491
= /
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>>37253387
mirin' that confidence. You are the hero us manlets need.
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Hows it goin bros.
Lovely day out today. Bouta head out to a wedding.
Fasting all day so i can eat whatever and hoefully not fuck my macros too much.
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>>37254752
Get better underwear, those don't even fit.
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>>37254800
Youre right dewd. I need to work on my banana hamock gains for sure
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>>37254787
time to cut
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>>37254814

i-i am
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>>37249616
MIIIIIIIRIN
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>>37249749

do some pull ups breh
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>>37253012

Mother Evropa.
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Why are there always multiple competing CBT threads?

>Back only because I'm a fat fuck. 5'8, 225. Dreamer bulk because sick of being small more than I'm scared of being fat.
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>>37246510
>5'5

sorry bro

mirin anyway
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>>37255680
Giving up on the other one desu
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better maintain dude yo uare ok!!!
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>>37255680
OP here. i make a new one if i'm craving attention. i also have a webm to post but it has sound so it won't work. does anyone have a solution?
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currently 6'4 approx. 98-97kg
it's jsut strange how easily i was able to lose weight, i weighed 105kg couple months ago, lost it without any effort, prob. gonna bulk up again throughout the summer
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>>37249571
>that mess

triggered
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>>37252525
bulk hard breh, if done correctly by january 2017 you can start cutting and slay pussy in the summer
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>>37249647
>>37249635
>>37249629
>caring about the opinions of women
>using the opinions of women to justify something
>taking the opinions of a group of morons at face value
>most of these women, if not all, are most likely uneducated ugly degenerates
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>>37255726
big bi's, no chest and huge quads.
SS+curls for years?
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Sorry for the natural lighting
>inb4 posture
too much vidya, was tired
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you people look so good.

after many years of being a lanklet i finally started lifting. four months in and i get a hernia
one week in recovery, and i've apparently got stupid abnormal swellings around the incisions

the few gains i had will probably be lost, if i even had any
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>>37255799
>Upload to imgur
>Use clip converter.cc to convert to mp4
>Load into Photoshop with import video frames to layers
>Save for web as gif
>Upload gif

Also I lied, apparently I'm a glutton for punishment.
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>>37256192
Stats?
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>>37256192
You said in an earlier thread you were from e. europe, Lithuania by any chance?
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>>37256209
Shit stats
5"11 18 165~ 1 rep maxes
Ohp 120
Bench 200
Squat 225
Deadlift 350
Chinup 95
have skipped legs for 6 months
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>>37256234
I live in good old germany, but before that I was in lithuania
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6'1
165
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>>37246445
Slightly off topic, but what advice do you guys have on how to take good selfies?

Like, I get that people say "optimal lightning, pump, etc" but what constitutes optimal lightning?

Other stuff worth considering?

How to hold/angle the phone? Filters?
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>>37256452
Would smash your boi pussy. That your little fuck toy on the pc? So hot.
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>>37256513
artificial light from overhead or natural light from the side, like standing in front of a mirror with a window facing your side, always looks good

up the contrast, lower the exposure. do a minimum of 2 sets of 50 pushups before each picture
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>>37256513
>>37256558
we need a selfie section in the sticky
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>>37256537
Sorry but I'll have to be dominating you ;)
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>>37256192
Fix posture then you'll be golden.
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>>37249981
You look good but that's a fuckboy pose
>>37249899
Looks good
>>37253299
Damn that ass
>>37253805
Nice
>>37256192
Nice man
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>>37256586
Dominate me pls
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>>37256281
>>37256192
Man, I'll be so ripped once I get down to your bf%.
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>>37256513
Uncle Gooby has you covered bby.
http://scoobysworkshop.com/look-hot-when-you-are-not-how-to-take-a-good-selfie/
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>>37256635
>http://scoobysworkshop.com/look-hot-when-you-are-not-how-to-take-a-good-selfie/
Man, he's so fucking based.
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>>37256192
Looks great from the front. Ass to cheat ratio is a little off. Huge ass, little chest. Definitely work chest heavy af.
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>>37247356
lol, you cant see his serratus, those are his ribs friend

back to anatomy class
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cutting slowly
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>tfw finally making it
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>>37256908
well anon u still fat but man, there is some good progress goin on there, keep it up family
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>>37246510
Intermittent fasting is the king of lean body physique.this gave me results I eat like shit for the most part before eating clean and was still able to from 20% to 14% without even trying
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>>37254082
are you talking about my shoulders? those are probably the weakest part of my body other than maybe biceps
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>>37247335
That chest work on it
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>>37256990
meant for >>37254148
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>>37256966
>14%
>lean body physique


Pick one
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>>37247335
Next time if you're going to flex everything try a more natural position, you look like you're desperately trying to hold back diarrhea.
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Noob here, Before/after 3.5 months bulking. Been on PPL. What do??
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>as always half the posts are roiders
why arent roiders and roid threads instantly banned from this site?
If there was an entire board that half the posts were constantly discussing their heroin and meth addictions that shit wouldnt fly. Wtf do mods do all day?
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>>37250294
Daredevil, is that you?
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>>37257003
Dude if you are not competing 14% is great and healthy.
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>>37249981
not only do you have horrible genetics but you look like an enormous douche and thats not even from seeing your face yet.
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>>37256947
Do more legs
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>>37257074
>lifting as an uglet
i dont even know why uglets try seriously why?
the chad meme is true, hes eating hot pockets and benching 70 pounds while youre lifting everyday
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>>37252211
JDM is that you?
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>>37257140
I dont think so tim
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>>37256947
>that tattoo
>>37257094
Who are the roiders?
>>37257412
Show ass pls
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>>37257132
Sure its healthy, but its not great. 10% is good for natty or someone whos not competing. 14% is way too high to bulk unles you just wanna look like a doughboy - so the only option is to cut.
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>>37257425
>show ass pls

Okay no homo. This was a few weeks ago
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>>37248333
You went from asian to white
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>>37257455
Would spank and eat

no homo
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>>37256947
I hope you're bulking.
Looking good, though.
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Fug how am I doing
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>>37257537
Two days left in my cut, then maintain for a few weeks and bulk for 10 weeks.

Went from 13% bf to about 8% right now. I think thats low enough, should stay <10% for most of summer
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>>37257578

How tall are you?
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>>37257578

y u wearing them gay ass panties
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>>37257645

that's not 8%
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>>37246510
Go fuck yourself you fucking manlet, why do you even lift? girls wont like you, you are a fucking manlet, i'am 6'3 and i could knock you the fuck out at 120lbs,
fucking manletnigger

>be manlet
>do 10 push ups
>drink a glass of milk
>instantly gain 25 pounds of fresh muscle

Try being 6'3 masterrace and gaining a pound, i dare you, i double tripe motherfucking dare you, you manlet cuck faggot, why havent you killed yourself at that height?


manlets... when will they ever learn
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>>37257645

Yeah that's not 8%. You're probably around 12 right now.
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>6'3
>120lbs
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>>37257578
r u gay senpai
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>>37258083

Piss off you lanky bitch. Have fun when your knees give out at age 65.
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>>37258079
>>37258096
Stay jelly fags, calipre measure says 8%.

Not 100% accurate but suck my dick or post your cb.
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>>37258161
Why jelly? You're like 5'5...
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6'1" I use to weigh 245 got down to 180. Don't really know what to do now, trying to max the apft currently.
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>>37258161

you're delusional if you think you only have 8% bf.
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>>37258161

I already did you faggot. Just cause we're correcting you doesn't mean you should tell us to suck your dick.
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>>37258161

>objective observation
>jelly
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>>37258184
>>37258187
Sorry that I trust a physical measure of my bf% over anons best guess lol

>37258190
>visual interpretation of bodyfat
>objective

Do you even know what objective means?
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>>37258179
Lol didnt even see this, 6'1" since I was 14 years old, but nice try.
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>>37258083

what is wrong with you
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>>37258161
you look quite good, but you aren't quite single digit bf. single digit bf has that vascularity on the abs and adonis belt that you dont have yet. id put you right at 10%. like you said, calipers arent fully accurate

how long lifting? age?
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227 lbs
6'2"
29.1 BMI

I try to put myself on a diet, I use apps to count calories and whatnot, but I just can't help myself sometimes.

What are some things that could keep me full all day and away from the fridge, anons?

Should I just end it?
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>>37258217

in this context it means unbiased. And I don't see why you're getting so defensive when no one is agreeing with your claim. It's not like you don't have any aesthetics, you're just not single digit body fat.

chill
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>>37258249
See anons, you can be like this guy and disagree with me without being a faggot.

I had a dex scan years ago when I was 7.2% bf, was skelly though. Ive got 90% of the chest deffinition and vascularity I had then, lots of forward lighting doesnt help but whether Im about 8 or 9% I dont care Im just excited to bulk again.

23 years old. Been lifting on and off since like 17 or 18 when I was 130lbs. Had about an 18 month hiatus and just got back into training 3 months ago.

Weigh 189lbs right now.
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>>37251848
looking swole bro
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>>37258274
Objective is measurable. There are 9 fish in a tank - that is objective.

A caliper, dex scan or full submersion thing are objective ways of measuring bodyfat. Looking at a picture and taking a guess is subjective.

Your context doesnt make misusing a word correct.

And Im fucking aggro thats why - I dont have chill
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>>37258322

wow that's a lot of lean gains, i started at like 160 lbs skinnyfat 5'6 then grew to 5'8

im 19 in a week, started lifting when i was 15

nobody replied to me ITT, >>37248093
could you give me a redpill of where i'm at as far as bf% and what i should work on most when im done cutting? i did this permabulk 16 through 18 where i ended up drinking a lot and having a bad diet, cut like 30lbs so far, when im done i want to clean bulk
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>>37249749
I'm jelly of that apollo's belt.
I don't know if I want mine to look like yours or if I want to lick it. Maybe both
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>>37258381
Youre probably 17-18% bf. Keep cutting, take a month and stay at maintainence if youre too fatigued from cutting for so long. But dont bulk til youre around 10%. Youve got a decent amount of muscle so you wont look like shit from dropping some more weight
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>>37258083

>manlets are the insecure and overcompensating ones

Guess people who say that are wrong.
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>>37250286
Always keep in mind that it's gonna be a long and hard journey dude. There's gonna be so many days where you'll feel like you're not getting anything done or you wanna quit, but if you keep your shit in line and work hard you're gonna make it breh
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>>37258424
I can't really afford to take a month of stagnation, i want to at least be acceptably lean (like 12% bf) to post up some body pictures for my online dating profiles by the time i go to community college, and to be fully lean where i can get some nice new clothes and have them tailored and everything. i still have fat deposits on my lower back and chest, lower stomach, you know the deal

it's really frustrating because often after workouts, or in the right light i can see the vascularity emerging in my arms and shoulders but it's just not quite there yet, i don't have abs yet, shit sucks

i give it 3-4 more months
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Been working out for about 9 months rate me
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>>37246510
>natty
>drinks powderd jew
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>>37246445
What do I need to do to look as good as I possibly can in 90 days?
>tfw already lost 50 pounds since late February and yet I look like this

plz help
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>>37246445
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>>37258511
Keep cutting then, but keep your workout volume high to improve muscle retention.

Some yohimbine or ephederine would help. Clen too but the sides are worse.
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>>37257578
pls b gay
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>>37249629
>mfw 6'4 and I hate these women
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>>37258161
the bottom of your face is ugly

the rest will be
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>>37258251
Something called willpower, fuck you
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>>37248071
2.5 yrs of curling.
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>>37258534

do a lot of poo poos
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>>37258161
You're not 8, more like 10-11.
Someone like OP is 8%.
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>>37258182
jesus the army let you stay in at 245?
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>>37258613
Not what Ive been told, but anything to make you feel better. Pic related

>>37258669
I look almost exactly inbetween the 6-7% and the 10-12%.

So Id say 8-9% is reasonable. Not sure why debating over 1 or 2% is such a big deal.
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