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cheating frauds general

>slap boxing the disabled Edition

prev >>37162884
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Posting in new thread.

https://www.t-nation.com/workouts/boring-but-big-3-month-challenge

Is this sample routine decent? I feel completely burned out during this blast, and feel like changing my routine could possibly ease things up.
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>>37177680
as asked in the previous thread,
Sure, roids are magic, but you need the incanation.
How "magical" are we talking? I've heard comparisons of a 6 month work of a natty lifter is 1-2 months for a roider.
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>>37177732
>How "magical" are we talking?
depends on a variety of variables
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>>37177732
It depends, there are too many variables honestly. Part of the advantage of using roids is that you can train harder, longer and more often than a natty. So a lot of the crazy progress some dudes on roids make is due to enhanced training as much as it is to "dur herr cheat mode"-muscle building.

If you train half ass as a natty, you're going to have underwhelming (albeit better) results on roids. If you bust your ass, it's magic.
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>>37177919
eating OK, taking enough protein + supps.
I try to go hard as possible, 6 times a week with saturday being rest (abcabcx)

And i try adding 2.5kg every time I train.
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>>37177942
How long are you in the gym for, what's your routine look like, how much protein and how big is your surplus, are you getting enough sleep, etc., etc.
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>>37177942
If you eat well and enough, get enough sleep and train hard, frequently, with a solid routine, then you'll see some damn good progress.

How much and how fast, no one can tell you.

Unless you have shitty genetics. Can't help you there.
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>>37177970
I do all five exercises my routine has planned for the day. Sometimes it might take an hour, or two. Just really depends. Also throw in a sixth if I can handle it.
>routine
Its basically a glorified ppl, (abc) set that you can find on reddit, with me removing shit such as snapcity rows and replacing it with cable rows, etc.
like,
>bicep and back day
>deadlift, lat pulldowns, hammer curls and reverse bar curls, cable rows, rear delt machine.
I'm taking approx 1g of protein for every lb, sometimes overdoing it with the chicken and shit. Surplus is around ~300.
Not doing too well on sleep though. getting about 6-7 hours erryday.
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>>37177723
We're opportunists, bimbo

Taking advantage of these lucrative ventures for profit

>>37177788
No I just take 5-10mg of var a day to waste money,time and troll fraud obvz
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>>37178015
Looks pretty good. Get more sleep, and you're going to need a bigger surplus if you're roiding. 300 is too easy to fuck up by over/underestimating what you eat. 500 kcal at least, I'm sure some would suggest 1000 minimum. I'll let you research that on your own.

Although really, I didn't get on the juice until I was very close to my potential, and I'm glad I waited. I'd give it a couple more years of solid training and diet unless you're a jacked motherfucker already.
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>>37177544
>low frequency and you have mentioned that you don't use periodization, don't know enough of your training to comment one
I always did the bro-split, but it's but volume anyway.

When i hit plateau, i always try different exercises.

>these statements are so wrong you can't use numbers like that both training and nutrition is important
Of course they are both important, but diet is way more important than training.

quantifying those two, would be like 70% for diet and 30% for training.
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>>37178016
do o u wan do see the benis bb?
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>>37178071
only been lifting for a year. (last month was the anniversary, had chicken)

I'm just tired of seeing these 3 dudes at my gym surpass me like nothing (they've only been here for four months, deadlift more than me and have huge bicep benis veins)
and then they claim
>natty
meanwhile their shoulder is acne heaven

lord in heaven forgive me for being tempted to the dark side
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>>37178102
yo i forgot to mention
if I pinned my virgin quad yesterday, (need to pin tomorrow) should I repin the same quad, my left quad, or wuh
How long should I wait to repin a spot? (my needles are only 1 inch, and people say not to pin ur ass wid it)
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>>37178081
If you pay me to look at it

>>37178102
If you want to do them, do them

It's not like you're going to make less progress by roiding before natty pot is hit, assuming you are dedicated and continue improving your routine
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HOLY SHIT, ROELLY IS OUT OF CONTROL

what's goin on over there in Kuwait.
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>>37178079
>I always did the bro-split, but it's but volume anyway.
Seems like you are unaware that even if volume is the same higher frequency will lead to more gains.
>When i hit plateau, i always try different exercises.
Maybe try using periodization instead

>Of course they are both important, but diet is way more important than training.
>quantifying those two, would be like 70% for diet and 30% for training.
I think this is dependent on how efficient you are at both
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>>37178171
Like tumors
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>>37178146
Try to alternate sites as much as you can. Once a week or less is ideal, to minimize scar tissue build up, but I when I was using prop I pinned the same spot more often than that.

If you're fairly lean you might be able to pin your ass with 1", but it's probably not worth the risk. I vastly prefer pinning my glutes, although aspirating with one hand is a challenge. You are aspirating, right?
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>>37178159
It's a life changing decision. It's worth taking one's time. I mulled it over for a year before taking the plunge.
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>>37178178
link to a good guide within the context of this periodization method?

with other words, i can make more gains and i'am just wasting my time breh.

okay smart ass. Assuming you're both doing it efficient, then diet would have more priority.

example; you want to lose weight, you're training your ass of, but your diet is shit.

in that context diet would be more important than training. Because even without training you can lose weight with a good diet. kcal in > kcal out


>>37178241
implying you don't wanna be hold by roellys massive arms
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>>37178316
He's not you, masT

So yeah
I am implying that
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How much Arimadex for my first cycle?

Doing Test E 250mg E3D for 12 weeks.

Box I'm looking at has 28x 1mg tablets.
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>>37178410
Use asin.
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>>37178340
i wish i had his insane genetics

but not his face.

when are we gonna see your pics?
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>>37176714
bump
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>>37178316
>link to a good guide within the context of this periodization method?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KWsgdDX79w

Because even without training you can lose weight with a good diet. kcal in > kcal out
If you eat in a surplus but don't train you probably wouldn't gain that much muscle but a good chunk of fat
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>>37178453
you should always be using as much volume as you can recover from, regardless of natty status
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>>37178446
Why do you want a girls pics? Gross.
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>>37178410
.5 eod if you need it

>>37178446
When you make a fucking instagram with me duh
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>>37178492
I ask because I don't know how much I can recover from, especially if I'm gonna start taking test. I know that the body can take a lot more when on roids, so I wasn't sure how much I should up my routine by.
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>>37178487
GET BIG DOING THIS BREH

but if don't eat enough while training. you woudn't gain muscle either

we can go on like this forever


>>37178520
what

jerrbears

>>37178553
give me +- 1 month to get ripped.
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>>37178558
so find out and go from there
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>>37178589
>we can go on like this forever
exactly both are important, nutrition is slightly more importanter but not as important as big biceps
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>>37178596
Sure.

I almost shat myself, since I sent some guy £676 instead of £6.76 for some bitcoin.

Thank fuck he noticed.
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>>37177680
FAGS
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>>37178636
>since I sent some guy £676 instead of £6.76 for some bitcoin
WEW LAD
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>>37178610
fuck you, bicep is the most important
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>>37178649
I wonder if I affected the average price of bitcoin there.
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>>37178675
oh fuck meant that biceps were more importanter
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>>37178684
probably not desu
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>>37178705
At least now I can get my Nolva.
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>see if I can smoke weed without anxiety
>can, not really all that anxious, just think about death the whole time
>smoke weed 4 days straight
I have seen the Underverse.
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Anyone have any good porn sites that suit the tastes of a bodybuilder? Only thing I go to Reddit for is porn and drugs but lately it's lacking.

>>37178553

ESTP, H is bad for you. Why can't you be a normal millenial and binge drink+pot+MDMA+adderall+phenibut?

Seriously though, H is bad mmkay
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Who do you guys use for legal research peptides? I was thinking of getting some pt141 and mt2.

Blue sky, Maxim, med chem?
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>>37178675
Bicep routine? Muh long arms make my bis look smaller.
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>>37178589
That's what you say every month you dysmorphic shill

>>37179037
Idk I did all that in my pre/teens like a normal person

Besides this time it was fentanyl.... I'd say h is better but got more fent for the same cost and fent seems to last longer

I've done a lot of drugs in the past. Not much is new anymore

What I really want is k but it's apparently gunna be a process cuz no one has it here

It's my absolute favorite
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been taking aromasin 10mg ed. by itslef because i'm bored. 1.5 weeks in and ive never seen my jawline look this awesome. more people should fux with ai's off cycle imho
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does tren kill anybody else orgasms?

no problem with getting hard, strong desire, but i cant finish

wat do?

raise test? add caber? hcg?
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>>37179084
My last order from Blue Sky was legit.

>>37179099
Nothing wrong with a little Special K.
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>>37179141
The thought makes me quiver

Dat delicious, delicious nose cereal

>>37179102
... I have no words for you
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>>37178178
It's one of the few things I completely agree with mast on. Diet is way more important than how you train.
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I swear bars are insane for networking. Got another client from it. Shook my head at bar whore. What kind of grimey hoe wants to fuck in a bathroom? So desperate for dick they can't wait to go back to my place? Red flag.
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>>37179084
th-those eyes!
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>>37179004

Haha, see if you can get a different strain, definitely makes a difference
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>>37179037

>2010+6
>being a roided up alpha male
>still doing something as pathetic and faggy as watching porn

Are you not ashamed of yourself mossad?
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>>37179099
>What I really want is k
Isn't that some kind of cow tranquilizer.

Don't know why fags like it so much for their sex binges
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>>37179202
You're just 2joocy4them

>>37179141
Was the order somewhat recent?
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first time going from blast to cruise (600mg test-e to 150mg), what should I expect?
would there be much benefit of cruising on just barely supraphysiological levels ~250mg a week instead of 150mg which is high natty levels for me?
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>>37179222
Maybe, I've tried two different high CBD strains, think the first might've been a bit better, it's mostly been the second strain though. High THC strains just kill me with anxiety.
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>>37179238
You won't notice much.

>for me
How are we supposed to know.
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>>37179234
About a month ago.
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>>37179166
why tears?
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>>37179229
Tech yeah

It's a dissociative

I can't say I'd care at all for it for sex, so no answer there, but I love going for walks/jogs on it

Feels amazing

I bet working out on it would be fun, but there's a fair chance you'd hurt yourself and not realize
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>>37179267
Wot
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>>37178875

bumping. Really want to unserstand more, will cont to lurk of course and try to learn myself aswell.
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>>37179251
just disregard the
>for me
and the lack of information
am novice on roids as in I could still make gains on 250mg of test a week so what would be the pros/cons of highnatty level cruise vs low supraphysiological .. probably health wise better to go highnatty but only way to be sure would be to get bloods done

what would you recommend
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>>37179249

smoking less at once and taking it slower also helps, keep searching for a strain you like and it's 10x better than sitting riddled with anxiety wondering if it's worth it
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>>37179327
Imo the difference is negligible between the gains you'd make/keep on one and the health you'd keep on the other.

I'd probably go with 250 because if a 600mg test cycle somehow wrecked you you aren't made for roids anyways.
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>doing rec drugs

you guys are fucking losers lol
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>>37179386
my health atm is fine but I was more concerned on is there any long-term (health) benefits on trying to stay low on dosages
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>>37179429
P much
Some people seem to be able to use drugs semi regularly and still keep shit together but most ppl are just fukt
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Just did my first pin ever. Chose my VG. Didn't feel a thing. I brewed it myself.

If I'm still alive in the morning I'll hit you up.

Was only 100mg though.
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>>37179099
Ketamine?
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>>37179099
Fent is a very cold kind of opiate high
no euphoria
almost makes me feel sad when I'm on it
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>>37179429
It depends on which in my pov. I think ESTP messed up with heroin, but I know plenty of people who use more suave stuff just in occasions and are perfectly fine long term.

>>37179441
150 and 250 are both in the very low category where, if you look after yourself, neither should have a negative impact on your health.
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>>37179095
Nothing you can do about it imo.

my little brother that is 6'5, got the same problem. Just try to make it as big as possible


>>37179429
especially in combo with steroids.

>>37179099
don't bully me. I'am already in a lot of pain because of it
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0.5 arimidex daily enough to keep estro sides down on 1g test and 400mg deca?
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>>37179519
I know you don't care
but lets say you went in the gym tommorow and tried to see how much you could bench for a single
what do you think it would be?
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I guess I'm fucking my ex tonight
>hey I need you. You can say no if you want. Come over tonight. I'm not trying to sleep with I just need you around

Someone is getting pregnant tonight.
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>>37179492
Heroin is a horrible drug. Friend of mine just got back from a funeral (heroin OD). I just got in touch with a childhood friend. Turned out he got hooked. He was tearing up just reminiscing about old times. It was hard to watch. I felt bad for him. Some bad decisions was all it took to change his life forever.
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>>37179202

you say that like it's a bad thing

>>37179533
>but lets say you went in the gym tommorow and tried to see how much you could bench for a single
>what do you think it would be?
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>>37179595
???
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>>37179444
I'd argue I'm more functional on drugs than the violent self I tend to be sober. I get in more trouble when I'm bored so drugs help remedy that

>>37179460
Yes

It's my all time favorite
Opiates and benzos are gr8 but nothing pulls my heart strings like k

>>37179482
It's definitely a different beast. Everyone was telling me it's like heroin but it's really not. I like it in it's own way, though

My only hang up about it is it's hard to gauge how much to take. Like you can take a tiny bit one minute and feel nothing and the same amount next minute and be fucked right up

Happening to me now kek. At work so I just took a teeny tiny bit but it's hard to read my phone screen

>>37179492
Honestly I don't understand why heroin has such a huge stigma. Everyone made it out to be so addictive and I've met tons of people who rekt their lives with it but there's tons of other drugs I'd still prefer to do other than it

I've always had a good willpower for these kind of things, though. More of a random binge addict if anything
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>>37179533
on a low carb day, probably not much. max 140-150kg max

i did 170kg, once but that was with lot of test and lot of carbs.
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answer pls

>does tren kill anybody else orgasms?
>no problem with getting hard, strong desire, but i cant finish
>wat do?
>raise test? add caber? hcg?
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>>37178296
>aspirating
y-ye.
I was told if you hit a blood vessel, you'll feel it.
But yes, I did aspirate. nothing came out.
First pin was clean, only a little blood that I'd expect from 23g.
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>>37178296
What spots do you recommend with a 1 inch needle? I was thinking both quads, maybe delts(i dont know where in the fucking delt tho)

People say minimise scar tissue don't pin the same spot, but, how can you get the same exact spot so accurately? pls
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>>37179633
Jerrbears good pic of me
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>>37179519
Sry bb you know I am emotionally a child so I gotta show you my infatuation via teasing

>>37179550
Wewy your resolve is a whirlwind

>>37179585
I don't know

I've seen heroin ruin people's lives but so does something legal and common use like liquor

I think a large majority of people who lose themselves to addiction were already heading down a bad path. Heroin doesn't ruin people's lives, people ruin their lives. Obviously there are aspects to physical addiction that can't be denied, but even if it's a harder choice, it's still their choice

Not tryna throw shade at your friend or anything in saying that, either

I mean, if someone said roids were awful because their friend died from using them, it wouldn't change your use/perspective, would it?
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>>37177732
depends.i've seen 1 year roids that would equal 3 years natty
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>>37179728
Yes. Saying "I'm not looking for sex" is like saying "I need that shit now". That pussy game is irresistible when it's all I've been thinking of this weekend.
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>>37179729
52 week cycle?
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>>37179759
Gahahahaha

Well hit it hard bimbo

Take some amature footage and share et as an intro to your porn career

Fucking her ass will pretty much be g4p, right?
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>>37179772
>he only cycles 1 year at a time
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>>37179787
dont ever reply to my fucking post again
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>>37179794
"No"
>>37179786
Yes duh. Absolutely. I am going to rip and tear. No that ass is nothing like g4p lmao.
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>>37179823
Kek go get 'er you beast
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>>37179844
Jerrbears confirm I'm getting it and I'm a beast
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>>37179099
Then get shit like 2F-ketamine or 3-MEO-PCP.
I'm not sure if they're legal in Canadag though.
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What's the best sarm to do on a test cruise, in betwern blasts? Mk677 a good idea?
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>>37179969
Mk677 isn't a sarm its a secretagogue, sarm stands for selective androgen receptor modulator and 677 doesn't do shit to ARs
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>>37179962
Eh, if I'm gonna get research chems online I might as well order the real thang. Legality isn't really a big concern for me
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>>37179969
LGD is the only sarm worth a damn.
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>>37179988
That being said it is probably a good idea to take, just trying to hypertrophy the same number of muscle fibers is going to result in some seriously diminishing returns vs hyperplasia+hypertrophy
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>>37179037
i've taken up to 1.5g of phenibut and have never felt anything. even on an empty stomach with lemon juice.
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>>37180022
Ever try yk11?
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>>37180056
Nope, supposedly there's no real yk11 on the market.
I definitely wouldn't try anything that hasn't even been tested on animals yet either.
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>>37180088
I thought it had been tested on humans but was taken off the market due to side effect of nosebleeds
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>>37180102
Not that I know of. The only studies done were on individual muscle cells.
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>>37179988
Yes, ok but still, good idea on cruise?
>>37180022
I did lgd, doing it on cruise defies the point of cruising.
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>>37180140
Doing anything besides low Test defies the purpose of a.cruse
Just blast some good stuff and then cruse
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>>37180140
>doing it on cruise defies the point of cruising
well since it isnt supposed to harm your lipids/bp/whatever i dont see how
not that its even worth doing anyways
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>>37179728
i like teasing.

>>37179698
making us look like clowns

making all kinds of gainsss
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>>37180169
why would you want to look like a cock? i can understand Arnold mode or zyzz or whatever,but you look like an accion figure!
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>>37180216
arnold i understand, but zyzz lmao

ideally i want to look like flex wheeler or roelly. But their genetics are out of this world
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>>37180272
>But their genetics are out of this world
no they just work harder than you
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>>37180169
You're the clown!
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>>37180289
kek,who need genetics when you got hard work

hard work

>>37180293
true that
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>>37177680
Any suggestions for a complete beginner to roids? or a source I can trust on starting out?

194 cm (6'3 maybe?)
76kg barely out of dyel
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Question for /frauds/ what is the real differences between the different types of test?

As far as I know some have longer some and some have shorter half lives, is that as far as it goes? Is one better for first cycle?
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>>37180771
http://www.anabolicsteroids-hormoneknowledge-bigmuscles-drugs.com/testosterone_esters.html
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>>37180771
the shorter half life ones also have a higher concentration of test to ester.

just stick with test e or c for first.
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in your experiences how fast can you gain without people you know getting suspicious?
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>>37180847
normies cant tell you're roiding unless you're Phil heath size
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How bad do roids fuck you up psychologically? Do you really get angrier, hornier and sad so easily? Im asking this as someone with depression and anger issues who wants to try roiding some day.
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>>37180968
Test doesn't do shit except maybe reduce anxiety/apathy from low test. The only other steroids I can think of that you might use often that have a significant change on your mood are tren and eq. tren causes mood swings, eq causes anxiety. Neither are really too bad unless you have problems to begin with. Tren in particular you can kinda just tell when its just the tren talking. Shit like halo and tne will make you go off the rails but those aren't really used ever.
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>>37180987
So if i just do test, im fine?
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>>37181043
Yeah. If you're crazy you'll use it as an excuse to be a nut though. It happens all the time. But biologically, theres not really anything going on emotionally.
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>>37180892
I guess the two competing schools of thought would be normies think every fit person roids because they don't know what people can do natty OR they think nobody does because they see people in movies all the time who are roided the fuck up and think they just train hard and eat clean
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>>37180968
I did a testosterone once

It ruined my life and now I have to go to therapy.

They're a straight up myth. The only people who act up are either experiencing a placebo or have no self control/accountability.
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Currently blasting tren and running a huge deficit - as many kcals I can spare without passing out.

Havent lost a lb on the scale yet. Bf noticably lower but the best part of it is my actual stomach shrinking.

You see those HGH/insulin guts, but most guys look a little bloated, and starving myselg like this has just shrunk my stomach like crazy looks great senpai

10/10 would suggest
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>>37180968
They make me want to be big and stronk and sexy all time
Being natty is killing me
Haven't lost a single gram of muscle yet, but the feeling of being able to lift more weight, make faster gains, recover quicker was all so awesome I never want it to end.

>tfw I could just pin 500test right now and end my suffering
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>>37181302
Judging by this post you'd think steroids made a huge impact on this man's physique.

You'd be wrong.
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>>37180968
I'd get low when I had stomach issues with tren. And tren with low test or no DHTs is a bad combo ime. On roids, sometimes you can cum all day.

>>37181140
Placebo is a hellavu drug
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>this is what a feminist sjw sounds like
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>>37181366
Any info on carrageenan? Its a keto-vegan issue so I figured I'd ask.
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>>37181366
My skin is crawling looking at that
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>>37181437
CRAWLING IN MY SKIIIIIIIIIN
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>tfw stopped doing any kind of shrugs ever
>traps keep growing on my cruise

just fuck my proportions up senpai
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>>37181366
>have a moth phobia
>click on that gif
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>>37181427
I never heard of it until now.

I just avoid processed foods as much as I can.

Here's everything I put down my neck besides water and a few supps.

Flax tempeh, chia seeds, spinach, broccoli, coconut oil, olive oil, MCT oil prewo, pink salt(8g sodium), No salt(to reach 7-8g potassium), sprouted rice protein powder with stevia.
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>jerry hasn't posted all weekend
maybe he got laid?
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>>37179728
point is, one bad decision can fuck everything up. you don't even know how much it will fuck shit up until you do it. that's not just drugs, it can be anything.

we like to think of ourselves as bulletproof. we're not. it doesn't take much to throw someone, anyone, right off the tracks. that's not just drugs or addiction either.

but there's not much you can do about it, it's the human condition. some people sort it out, some people die. humanity continues regardless.
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>>37181546
Alright. I buy carrageenan free almond milk creamer anyways for my coffee. Its pretty nice. I didn't think about it until I read the label on the box and researched it.
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>>37181623
Carageenan is just a type of sea vegetable. Think kelp. It's used as an "other ingredient" in certain foods as either a bulking agent/thickener or filler in certain liquid vitamins. As a sea vegetable it's in high in omega 6s, and therefore tend to be fairly inflammatory. Especially if you already have other GI issues. Nothing technically wrong with it.
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Just finished my first cycle. Now in PCT. Feel fine, but regret not B&C.
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>>37181799
Jerrbears of regret, just order some test and start pinning 125mg e3d for 8-10 weeks then blast again.

I'm thinking I might cosplay Gaoru.
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>>37180022
Not true. RAD-140 is stronger than LGD-4033. YK-11 looks pretty promising as well.
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dudes, whats a good third cycle? i have already done 2 cycles of test p and i want to add something nice to this third cycle. mast? maybe an oral? its going to be a 12 weeker.

thx my dudes
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>>37181820
I'm in week 4 of PCT. Would jumping back on fuck my body chemistry?
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>>37181841
Epistane + NPP.

>>37181847
No.
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>>37181847
No. Just drop the pct and start pinning, if that's what you would prefer.
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>>37181879
would you recommend mast? npp looks pretty tight, like deca 2.0
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>>37181918
Mast's effects are subtle, you'll be disappointed with the results over a mass builder like NPP.
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>>37181918
600 test 350-500 npp 350 mast is a great stack
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> ball gag girl just says "hahahahaha" to all of my texts
> try talking about Jews, same thing

>>37180052

Problem there is you only took 1.5 g. You can take 7 g no problem, I do it all the time [unless PowderCity's is underdosed]. Think the "phenibut withdrawal horror stories" are just made up by druggies as that's what druggies do. "SWIM took 5 g Phenibut one time and ...". Basically niggers.

Niggers like ESTP.

>>37179228

Eh, not proud of it, I go months without wanking, it's on/off. But little is more refreshing than fasting all day, working out, getting so drunk you can get into the porn storyline, having a wank, and passing out.
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>>37181847
>I'm in week 4 of PCT
This feel
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>>37182015
What duder?
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>>37182015
guess i'll double it to 3g. it's powdercity aswell.
yolo
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>>37180272
Yeah, dude. It's much better to be 230-260lb and on tons of drugs VS a moderate amount of drugs, healthier and more attractive.
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>>37182304
>pic not related
It's a fair argument but your pic isn't doing any justice. Should've used Arnold.
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>>37182223
tfw 1 away from quadjerrbears
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>>37182304
>healthier

Who are you trying to delude, besides yourself? If you meant healthier relative to a cruising mass monster, then ok.
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Is onyx bunk?
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>>37182541
>healthier relative to a cruising mass monster
Yep, that's what I meant.
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>>37177732

roids take you to places you can never go as a natural.

never used myself, but to pretend that you can achieve the same natty is stupid. closest to natty limit is a solid rugby. JMO.
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Would anyone recommend I introduce Mast as my second ever steroid? I'm really meticulous and goal-specific with my roiding. I compete in Crossfit and I'm not trying to put on a shit ton of mass, just trying to perform my best and look cash for the normies.

Also really trying to hit the sweet spot for "mental" gains like libido, drive, and wellbeing.

I'm thinking:

8 weeks test e 200mg
8 weeks test e 400mg
8 weeks test e 600mg
8 weeks test e 400mg + 550 Mast?
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This is fucking bullshit, I'm going to lose my gains because this fucking place hasn't shipped out my nolva yet.
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>>37182583
Onyx is a shitter golem is far superior

>>37182944
That's on you m8. You should have it on hand before you even start.
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>>37183000
Mirin jerrbears

This is stupid. Ex said she needed me tonight but "this isn't about trying to have sex with you". I feel like if you have to say that it most definitely is about that. Regardless, I'm grabbing her throat and kissing her the moment I see her. #takewhatyouwant
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>>37183062
Grab life by the throat then fuck it silly
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>>37183100
Double jerrbears I am listening coach
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can crashed estro cause acne?
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>>37183108
That's all I got.
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>>37182938
Why are you decreasing test when you introduce the mast?
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>>37183125
That's all I need. Btw thanks for the thicc Asian but I have one being served frigid bitch #l8tr.
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>>37182938
mast is great. just go 400test + 400 mast.

youll be glad you did
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Where do you guys get your SARMs from? I've tried Ostarine, wasn't really impressed. Want to try LGD, but I think my source for Osta was shit.

I saw sarms1, but that shit is expensive especially if you get the pct.
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>>37183198
Uniquemicals.
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>>37183198
Is there any easy way to see if any of these are illegal in my country?
>>37183278
I'm guessing if you can get any of these into Aussie I can get them in NZ?
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>>37177680
Planning to do a LGD sarm cycle and I've never done roid before. What do I need to look for? I don't want to fuck up my natural test level
>inb4 not worth it just pin
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>>37183332
Australia has a list of prohibited imports, New Zealand likely has one too. Do some googling.

>>37183361
10mg LGD-4033 for 8+ weeks. When you come off take 20mg nolva for 2 weeks.
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>>37183380
I think they are in limbo atm because they are research chemicals
From what I have read no one has had any issues getting them
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>>37183119
>can non normal hormones and fluctuations cause acne?
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I can't tell if my estrogen is high or I'm just really sad and lonely from starting a job and moving out alone, things only lasting like 2 days with girls I meet and end up liking from dating apps, or feeling alone with the girls that do end up liking me on dating apps. Smh desu senpai
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>>37183380
Thanks senpai tbqh
I have HcGenerate and N2 on hand are they useful? Should I consume during or off the cycle?
Do I need bloodwork before and after? I'm too afraid to loose my natural test
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Ayy got my sister to pin kenalog into a cyst that I got overnight. Hopefully this shit dies down.
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>>37183584
>HcGenerate and N2

They don't do diddly squat.
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>>37183528
You'll be okay. I'd focus on maintaining a regular AI schedule though. Be consistent. Maybe reduce test and introduce a hard DHT like winny or mast. Those tends to have very positive mental sides.
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>>37183692
flat feet and overpronation

would not bang
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>>37183696
How low could you run either with them being beneficial?
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>>37183738
That's supination you fucking imbecil. Would not bang tho.
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>>37183755
Mast is easy. You could run 350 mast indefinitely I feel. Some on here argue 350 is too low but I must be sensitive to DHTs, 350 makes me look and feel good.
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>>37179446
Well I didn't die, so there's that.
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220 lbs

Ate like shit when camping and drank beer. Fuck. I have a shoot Friday.
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>>37184026
are you a strict top or do you sometimes bottom? when you're on top do you play with the other guys dick or leave it alone
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>>37184044
Jerrbears I top. Idk should I play with a dick? Is that kosher?
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>>37184058
Have you watched any gay porn to learn what they do?
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>>37184072
No. I am totally unprepared aside from being hot and being good at fucking and willing to make $$$.
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> that felel when girls just want a daddy to beat them tell them when they can cum

Fuck you females :' (
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>>37184058
nothing about the situation is kosher desu
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>>37184088
Jerrbears

I'm doing this to my ex tonight. Mossad I'm telling you they always come back.
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>>37184126

My bitch ain't come back yet :(

I'm outsourcing
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>>37184010
Is it normal for it to be this sore? I feel like I'm gonna be limping all day desu.
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>>37184186
It'll happen. I've never not had a girl come back.
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One week in PCT brehs. Feel pure lethargy/melancholy, not much interest in girls. Im just working and then come home and lift. Tell me this fades. If I ever hop on again I am BnCing, PCT is not fun.
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>>37184236
You're doing something wrong
I feel fine aside from seriously reduced endurance and recovery
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>>37184211
Nice jerrbears, Chad
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>>37184254
I'm not a Chad. I have an evangelion tattoo dogger.
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>>37184281
Woops
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>>37184026
how old are you?
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>>37184297
25

How old are you?
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>>37184305
i'm 29, i was just wondering. Have you had any side effects?
>>
HRT clinic, general practitioner, or black market?
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>>37184358
From gear or g4p? Neither really.

Gear has made me a bit moodier, to the point that 300 test has me wonky sometimes. I feel best at test ~900-1500mg. Some bloat on deca.

No acne, gyno, strains, pulls, tears, ED or prostate issues.
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>>37184380
what is g4p?
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>>37184408
Lmao don't worry about it.

Are you considering hopping on? I wouldn't endorse it unless you're passionate about the lifestyle, have maintained this lifestyle for most of your adult life, and/or plan on making a career with your body.
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>>37184446
nm, googled it.....hmmm.

No, I'm not. I am curious about everything. People usually don't answer questions, but I come on at night when there are fewer people posting stupidity, and you usually get direct answers.

Is modeling what you do for work then?
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How many cycles should one have under their belt before using tren?

Looking at my second cycle to cut with either testp + npp or test+tren
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>>37184380

1500mg test a week? i feel great on 600 why on earth would you need that much?
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>>37184471
I have a regular people job and then I have a job where I get paid to fuck men on camera.

I try to answer questions where I can because I'm generally a piece of shit. Ask away duder.
>>37184486
Do whatever feels comfy. I used tren ~6 months into my gear career.
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>>37184486
there's no reason to use tren on your second cycle unless you have some kind of modeling gig to be at

you should be able to make good gains with basic test + oral or deca cycles for a long time.. if you need drugs to cut (instead of preserving muscles during a cut) you're gonna be a sad dude trying to roid away that problem
>>
Daily Reminder:

Doing excessive roids will make you a giant faggot that spreads buttcheeks for g4p and will get you doxxed.

Thank you for your understanding.
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>>37184489
Before Chem was locked up he and had some in depth discussions on the androgen receptor upregulation in adipose on high dose test only. He'd seen some major transformations in fat loss using 2-4iu growth and 1500-2000mg test and that's it.

I tried it with peptides and test on PSMF and went from 265 to 210 in about 8-10 weeks.
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>>37184520

> hes not add dyslexic Hindenburg mode
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>>37184486
Don't waste a cycle cutting.
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>>37184525

did you get bloodwork while on that dose? what was your total test and e2 levels? what about lipid profile?

I never had a problem cutting so i wouldn't try it either way, and I know the pros are doing 1-2 grams of test but the diminishing returns seems not worth it for a recreational lifter
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>>37184509
How did you get involved in that business? Do you ever think about what happens 10yrs from now?
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Is var any good for lean bulking? If so, any pointers?
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>>37184509
H-how's the pay for fucking men on camera?
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>>37184550
Yeah everything was gtg. I dosed aromasin 25mg daily. I had cut to about 12% at my leanest but I think that did help me get sub 10. Not worth it unless you have a lot of disposable test which I did.
>>37184559
My agent approached me in the gym. Yes I do. I worry a lot but present me is my major concern.
>>37184596
Really fantastic. I make more than a months worth of pay in 6 hours.
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>>37184669
So you finally went through with it? That must have been an odd first day.
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>>37184669
Do you worry about people trying to ruin you by blasting out pictures or what not to family, friends, work, etc.?
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>>37184695
I'm sure he does, dude.
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>>37184695
Of course. But if it happens it happens. It'll be a long awkward conversation with family, but all my close friends know. I hope you guys don't do this, I try to be good to you puppers.

If anon has an agenda though, he's gonna find a way to make it happen.
>>37184688
First shoot is coming up. I'm in it though, or I owe them travel expenses.
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>>37184729
Oh, I see. Not too late to back out I guess but you're right, it does sound like a hell of an opportunity.

Anticipate any performance anxiety? Did you consider yourself straight until this? Is there a cheesy plot you have to act out? Lol.
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>>37184763
I still consider myself straight. I bought viagra, but my studio will provide "help". There is acting involved and everything does have a real sense of professionalism.
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>>37184729
>>37184785
So do they just hand you a 1099-MISC when you are done for the day? Is the money worth the life risk?
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>>37184729
I think youre too well liked for anything to happen
people genuinely hated FL and Chem so it wasn't suprising that they got doxed and fuck with a bit
highly out any anon is going to put the time in to sift through 100000s of gay porn videos to try find the one you will be in
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>>37184803
Yea I am 1099. They will hand me several k in declared pay in cash when I finish.

Life risk how? Disease wise? I'm tested every 2 weeks and day of testing. Reputation wise? Maybe? It is 2016, a much more accepting time. I'm not gay but the risk of offending the lgbt community seems quite high these days; I don't think many would openly speak out. I spoke to a few reputable business owners and older ceo types I know. They all pretty unanimously agreed that given my age and assets it would a wasted opportunity and they would've taken similar risks had they had the chance.

It's funny, I don't think I'd be getting this fear if it were regular porn. Pays way less though.
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>>37184729
>>37184814
I highly agree with this. You're not an obnoxious faggot. I'm not sure why anyone would get any pleasure out of it. FL and Chem were understandable and shady as fuck anyway.

What is the pay like in real terms senpai? Is it based on per scene?
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>>37184854
Per scene per actor based upon performance, demand, type of shoot, etc.

I'm probably an outlier but I'm getting over 4K for a solo scene and a scene to top for a weekends worth of work. If all goes well they want to sign me on for an exclusive 1 year contract, minimum 2 scenes a month.

I'm glad I'm decently liked for all the shitposting I do.
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>>37184837
No, 'life risk' as in, depending on what your family is like...your parents finding out and it crushing them. Maybe they wouldn't care. I'm just wondering.
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>>37184880
are you nervous about how you will perform with a guy?
I would be
just no frame of reference for the experience
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>>37184910
I honestly don't know.
>>37184915
Yes. I have a hard enough time fucking women I'm not emotionally connected to. Who knows? New experiences can be fun. And for good money, it's worth a try.
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>>37184927
>I have a hard enough time fucking women I'm not emotionally connected to.
iktf
i have to be high as fuck to sleep with a woman i dont know
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>>37184938
Yeeee I feel that pupper
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i found some old vials of test e that are like 2 years old.

are they still good?
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>>37184970
The carrier oil may be rancid.
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>>37184981
Mega PIP?
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>>37184927
>Who knows? New experiences can be fun.

Every day Bimbo is a little more homo
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>>37185006
I'll let you know after I sleep with this qt tonight dogger.
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>>37184927
I'd like to think that I would be able to do it, but I feel like I'd choke at the idea of kissing another dude.
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>>37185040
Yes same. The concept of loving an intimately appreciating another mans body seems alien and abstract to me.
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