Any truth to this?
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/diana-moran/healthy-eating-advice-diana-moran_b_5379697.html
>huffingtonpost
>momscience
Why would it make any difference? If both those people ate 2000 calories they would be the exact same, because 2000 calories is still 2000 calories
I mean we've known for years that eating large amounts of food close to the time you go to bed isn't good for you but all else being equal if the calorie levels are the same they will look/weigh the same.
My friend's mom use to say this, so, mom science
>>37162239
This.
If anything it is the opposite.
Intermittent fasting is king for a lean muscular physique.
Skipping breakfast increases growth hormone and test. As well as increasing leptin sensitivity and regulating grehlin production.
So it is literally the opposite of true.
https://kinobody.com/diet-and-nutrition/intermittent-fasting-guide/
>>37162271
>Skipping breakfast increases growth hormone and test
How?
>>37162227
Yeah, you right.
>>37162234
Also Dolphscience. Dolph Lundgren lives by it (or at least says he does in his book) and I don't see any problem with taking advice from him.
>>37162239
Quick answer is metabolic rate/caloric expenditure is different throughout your day. Tons of info on this.
>>37162245
Bullshit.
Sleep is when you recover.
Eating before you sleep is fueling your recovery.
They even did a study with isocaloric intake, with some subjects eating carbs late at night, and others early in the morning.
While the weight loss was identical (what with identical caloric intakes and all) but the people eating carbs late at night retained more muscle and lost more bodyfat.
I will see if i can dig up the study.
>>37162220
momscience
>>37162271
broscience
>>37162278
No insulin = more igf-1
Your body produces endogenous hormones to retain as much lean mass as possible.
Whereas if you spike your insulin by eating, your igf-1 decreases, and your body doesnt feel the need to try and retain lean mass, as it is no longer in a fasted state.
>>37162298
Not broscience, actual science.
https://authoritynutrition.com/10-health-benefits-of-intermittent-fasting/
>>37162286
Eating before you sleep makes your body focus too much energy on digesting (which takes a massive amount of energy) so you sleep much worse and don't recover as well
>>37162322
Hahahahaha recovery is metabolism you faggot.
This is 100% horseshit.
Not even broscience.
Just brononsense
>>37162220
It's bullshit
>>37162321
the ads you get on that site say enough, nu-male faggot
this is some activated almonds-tier shit
>>37162328
you're not even making sense
>>37162343
Hahahaha broscience momscience bet you're even whatever carrots potatoes deck of cards being shuffled by a fighter pilot
>>37162342
Check the actual citations for the claims i made, not the bogus shills trying to make money off ignorant dyels.
Your scientific scrutiny is garbage tier
Depends on your lifestyle and what works for you.
As this is /fit/, peri-workout (before and after lifting) nutrition is most important.
For the average Joe, calories in vs. Calories out is all that matters.
If you have a physically demanding job, a big breakfast is probably necessary.
Some people fell better with few big meals, some feel better with many small meals.
There is no one size fits all.
>>37162343
What you call "recovery" is literally metabolism
What you call "digestion" is literally metabolism.
You essentially said you are too busy metabolizing food to metabolize food.
>>37162352
shit man you're right = - |
>>37162367
>>37162352
>>37162343
Stop samefagging
>>37162364
the energy required to digest is not metabolism, you're objectively wrong
>>37162373
i dont blame you
>>37162375
digestion is metabolism, you fool
The energy required to digest food = the energy required for recovery = metabolic energy requirements.
Are you seriously this retarded?
>>37162381
>i can use mspaint.
Confirmed for samefaggotry
>>37162375
>you're objectively wrong
Not him, but he is right.
>>37162386
the energy required to digest food being expended during the optimal time for recovery interupts said recovery and makes it less efficient
>>37162342
It actually isn't broscience it's backed science. Check out the book Engineering the Alpha by John Romaniello. Lots of very good information. Talks about hormone levels alot.
>>37162403
The "digestion of food" is metabolism
Your recovery is metabolism.
The more metabolism, the more recovery.
The argument that you are too busy metabolizing to metabolize is retarded.
The energy being spent to digest food is literally being spent on recovery.
It is the same process.
The process of metabolism.
>>37162407
activated almonds: the post
>>37162408
you keep insinuating that digestion, energy required for digestion, and metabolism are the same thing.
they're not, you're confusing catabolism with metabolism as a whole. Catabolism and anabolism make up metabolism.
>>37162411
Ill give you a 6/10 but that's the best I can do.
>>37162403
>increased metabolism interrupts recovery
Literally the opposite of true.
Increased metabolism is another way to say increased recovery.
>>37162417
It doesn't matter when you eat
>>37162416
Correct.
I am speaking primarily of anabolism, but if you knew what the fuck we are talking about you would understand that supports what i am saying, not contradicts it.
The energy being spent on metabolism is energy being spent on metabolism.
It is being spent on recovery.
Because that is what metabolism is.
>>37162419
That's not what I said.
>>37162416
>you keep insinuating digestion and metabolism is the same thi.
It 100% is.
And the energy requirements for metabolism are a non sequitur but for the record i didn't insinuate metabolic energy requirements are the same thing as metabolism.
In fact if you actually read what i wrote i was quite explicit that this is not the case
>>37162431
Catabolism and anabolism don't happen at the same time, it takes energy for anabolism to function properly and it's inefficient to expend that energy on catabolism during the optimal time to expend it on anabolism.
Anabolism = recovery
Catabolism = digestion
If when you sleep is the best time for recovery, why spend all of your energy digesting food when you could have already digested it and used the energy stored for anabolism?
>>37162439
Increased digestion slows down recovery.
Digestion = metabolizing food.
Increased metabolism slows down recovery is pretty much exactly what you said.
>>37162450
No, digestion is a component of metabolism
>>37162453
>catabolism = digestion.
Nope. Not even kinda.
In fact almost all protein is anabolized Not catabolized.
Digestion = metabolism.
You are right that you cannot be anabolic and catabolic simultaneously.
Eating a lot of food makes you anabolic.
Fasting makes you catabolic.
Eating before sleep is amazing for anabolic growth
>>37162461
Digestion is a component of metabolism called catabolism, after which anabolism occurs. Catabolism takes an obsurd amount of energy but the yield from anabolism is obviously even greater. Your metabolism functions in these 2 major parts, catabolism and then anabolism. Digestion =/= metabolizing food, digestion=catabolizing food, in which the full effect of metabolizing occurs after anabolization is complete. Having your food already digested before you sleep is more efficient for recovery since during your sleep is the optimal time to recover, not digest food.
>>37162429
>this guy again
Breh...stop.
>>37162483
Digestion is not catabolic, it is metabolic
Eating food is anabolic.
>>37162220
>huffpo
No.
>>37162481
Catabolism is the breakdown of molecules to obtain energy. the protein isn't primarily used for energy therefore it isn't catabolized. though most of your food is.
im saying since your sleep is the optimal time for anabolism, you shouldn't spend that time catabolising, which primarily occurs during digestion (the breakdown of molecules for energy). once you already have the energy (and protein required from the same process), anabolism begins
>>37162506
Metabolism = anabolism + catabolism
Anabolism = the synthesis of all compounds needed by the cells
this cannot occur without first requiring the energy and components via catabolism, which occurs by digestion.
if you ask me the best time to eat is a few hours before you sleep so that catabolism is mostly complete and your body can focus the energy obtained on recovery instead of digestion.
>>37162510
You are almost right, except eating food is anabolic.
Burning bodyfat because you have no food is catabolic
Eating ben and jerrys before bed is anabolic as fuck.
You arent as wrong as i thought, but still dead wrong
>>37162526
let me ask you one thing. when you eat food, does your body break it down for energy and other components?
>>37162524
Eating food is not catabolic, fagtard
>>37162271
Tfw gremlin production is too low
>>37162534
>based on my cursory glance of wikipedia, and a strong misinterpretation of its contents, i feel comfortable contradicting every nutrtional scientist ever.
If you want to pretend eating food isnt anabolic, go right ahead.
>>37162239
The problem is normal people are stupid. Here's the corrected graph that actually matches what they're doing.
Can't you all just read the definition of catabolism ?
"Catabolism is the set of metabolic pathways that breaks down molecules into smaller units that are either oxidized to release energy, or used in other anabolic reactions."
When you ingest food it needs to be catabolized by the acid in your stomach and the enzymes in your intestines to get absorbed into your bloodstream
Then when the nutrients reach the cells, they are anabolized when needed into bigger molecule
Example: you eat rice, it gets catabolized into glucose molecules and then pass into your bloodstream, and when it gets to your muscles cells if energy is not needed they anabolize these glucose molecules into glycogen for future use
>>37162271
>kinobody
Literally kill yourself.
>>37162555
you didn't answer my question.
let me ask you one thing. when you eat food, does your body break it down for energy and other components?
>>37162536
gr8 argument.
the literal definition of catabolism is the breakdown of molecules to obtain energy.
>>37162587
just posting again to remind you two that i won the argument and you both resorted to "ur a fag" and "y-youre contradicting n-nutritional scientists" instead of actual retorts
congrats morons, you flipped the definitions around in your head and now they're set in stone by your stubbornness
>>37162220
>huffingtonpost
>>37162220
>skip breakfast
>small lunch
>dine like an ancient viking, then sleep because of that righteous food induced sleepiness.
>>37162429
Fag
>>37162583
Found the fatty that thinks kino isnt natty
>>37162271
>>37162239
>>37162286
>>37162328
Metabolism is faster earlier in the day, eating at night gives an insulin spike which inhibits HGH, usually done to increase the time dedicated to muscle repair rather than growth.
Its the best way to eat as general rule sticking to the old 3 meal a day standard.
>>37162239
True. Only thing I do is Diet Pepsi and whey protein shakes. Nothing else just 2000 calories. In and out bruh. All about that energy balance.
Pic related mfw reading your stupid comment.
a calorie is a calorie fuck off
>>37162557
>>37162524
>>37162481
The issue is, when not eating in the mornings, when your body requires the most energy, it will store fat as energy for those hours, however you do not need lots of energy before sleep.
>>37162245
MOM GET OFF MY FIT!!!
>>37162567
i don't think you can even pretend to be this level of retarded
I like IF and keto. I really don't care if it's a placebo effect, but I've tried them and it works for me. I also tried " don't eat any carbs, just a little protrein and fat before drinking and the calories from the alcohol won't matter. It works too (even factoring the water loss) Try (non retarded like the banana diet etc) stuff, see if it works The rest is faggotery.
>>37162750
Autism
>>37162755
This isnt true. You have been lied to by kelloggs
>>37162220
you shouldn't be eating enough for it to make a difference at ANY meal
that said, no there is no truth in that at all
>>37162407
IT'S IN A BOOK SO IT'S TRUE
>>37162755
patently bullshit
>>37162755
Yes.
And then if you don't eat as much later on, it will USE this energy.
You know. Like the whole purpose of storing energy as fat is to use it later.
>>37162246
it't jew science, not kidding.
look it up.
I lost and still lose the most weight and maintain the most muscle when I eat large dinners and skip breakfast..
Opposite is true...
Huge breakfast is good for bulking though... Gotta have all three of your meals be big... Plus snacks,
>>37162750
>claims to only drink shakes and diet pepsi on 2k cals a day
>calls other stupid
Goddamn son you're retarded
>>37163207
I'm not even sure if you're serious. Nobody can be this stupid, right?
>>37163028
pretty sure it gets stored in the blood before it becomes fat, so if you're being healthy it's not like you're making a little fat and then burning it. it's only when you have an excess that your body starts storing it, or a deficit that your body starts burning it.
you can eat all your calories for the day at bedtime and it won't make a bit of difference to weight. what makes a difference is how hungry you are and that depends on what you eat. waking up starving is a shitty condition for weight loss.
>>37162285
>Dolph Lundgren lives by it (or at least says he does in his book) and I don't see any problem with taking advice from him.
>guys whos paid to be big does rigourous exercise while taking a bunch of steroids
>does retarded meme shit in the mean time when hes board
>people think the meme shit is the reason he got big
this is why these snake oil salesmen pay these faggots to shill retarded crap on instagram so much
I have come up with a revolutionary way to diet.
The idea is you skip breakfast, eat lunch like a prince, and dine like WEWUZKANGS.
Attached is a photo of my evidence
As a natty the gains you make are so pathetic that meal frequency barely matters unless taken to extremes. 3-5 meals a day, 25+g protein at each one is optimal
>>37164685
LMAO
this is IT. the man on the right is a CHAD who is TALLER, has a better FACE, and a much better FRAME than the fatty on the left.
he could EAT PIZZA for breakfast, lunch, and dinner and would look MILES better than the gymcel on the left
LMAO at gymcels
>>37162391
Confirmed for fucking retard
>>37162234
>>37162285
Also Gary Player science. Dude's super old and is fit as fuck. Hope I'm that fit when I get that old (hopefully I live to be that age too).
>>37162750
>Diet Pepsi and whey protein shakes
I JUST took these.
what the fuck man...
>>37162220
it's just a commonsense rule for normal people to live their lives without gluttony. There aren't quite enough of those for my taste.
>>37162220
I don't think it really matters but I enjoy it anyway. Breakfast is the greatest god damn meal of all time. Bacon, eggs, smoked salmon, fruit and maybe a little cheese with a black coffee and water to drink. Chicken and veggies for lunch, salad for din din. I wouldn't have it any other way.
Any other breakfast boys in here?
>>37162845
>Actually trying things instead of just shitposting and arguing about them
Do you even know where you are senpai?
>>37164685
L I T E R A L L Y
E V E R Y T H I N G
>>37163006
>peer reviewed studies aren't true
>broscience is
shill pls go
>>37162429
This is now an ironic meme
>>37162304
more like idgf
>>37162220
>huffingtonpost
D R O P P E D
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>>37163207
>>claims
You're a fucking retard
