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Anyone here into martial arts? I've been thinking about taking up martial arts, primarily I'm thinking about either training boxing or MMA. Anyone have experience?
I've been weight training for a few years and have accomplished a 405 squat, 300lb bench, 500lb deadlift, but powerlifting doesn't seem to me, I keep getting injured (currently have been for the past five weeks almost) and I want to try something else. I'm thinking about doing a martial art, while still weight training, but making it not my number one goal. Plus it could be a great way to do cardio because I can't motivate myself to fucking be on a treadmill or bike for an hour, and I get to learn how to fight and improve my body.
What martial art should I do? Which ones do you do? Do you like them?
Jiu Jitsu is fun and will get you rolling right away
Boxing and wrestling have great conditioning
Muay Thai is usually good but hard to say
Beware of shitty boxing/kickboxing gyms that are more "fitness" oriented
Everything else is probably going to be fake
>>37144561
That's why I'm thinking about boxing, because it requires you to be extremely fit. And I'm looking to lose fat but also learn how to fight, and I think that would be an awesome way to do it.
Bump.
/asp/ approved styles
> full contact karate (kyokushin, seidokaikan, enshin , etc), boxing, muay thai, wrestling, bjj, sambo, judo, kudo/daido-juku, savate, any folk wrestling, mma and kickboxing
Bullshit styles
> systema, krab magoo, aikido, 2dedly4sparring krotty (shotokan, chidokan, etc), most japanese jujutsu, all non-japanese jujutsu, everything korean, everything chinese, any rbsd (reality based self-defense)
>>37144508
Training quite regularly for over 4 yrs; years back I was quite active in several movement activities, esp. dance and swimming.
Got involved in breathwork over 30yrs back and never looked back, which lead me, oddly or was it, into martial arts.
Being a senior I do NOT involve myself with any active fighting. Yet, have a understanding of many principles behind Asian ma.
Just jump in and do it. You'll learn.
Peace
Injury rates in martial arts are going to be much higher than weightlifting. And boxing teaches you to box, not to fight. And unless you're cool with being a scrub, you don't box to get fit, you get fit so you can box.
>>37144790
Hapkido?
Also, why is ALL rbsd bullshit?
I'm guessing things like "when you think a nigga has a knife behind his back, put your hands between both of you" are good things to keep in mind.
I'm not particularly experienced, just two years of HS wrestling, but I can say for sure that if you want intensity and a LOTTA conditioning, wrestling is great. I've heard boxing is similar.
>>37145152
how does a 23+ year old just jump into wrestling? When you're not in HS or college?
I do muay thai 3-5 times a week, and I absolutely love it. There's something so satisfying knowing you can seriously fuck a guy up with your elbows
>>37145128
>>>37144790
Training methodology of rbsd might have some relevancy, depending on the quality of instructor. But its not a good place to form the foundation of hand to hand combat. Punching, kicking, takedowns and submissions, these are things you need to know how to do and defend if you want to be as proficient as possible, and the best places to do that are in the most efficient styles dedicated to each of those: boxing, mt, bjj, wrestling, and so on.
After you build a good base in that, then I think its best to apply the other things you want to incorporate (awareness training, simulating multiple combatants, defending against knife/gun, etc.). Otherwise, you end up with shit fundamentals.
>>37145161
http://www.teamusa.org/usa-wrestling/membership/athletes/find-a-club
Check this out
>>37145217
>senior division
>>37145165
OP Here
How long have you been doing it? I'm pretty strong but I'm kinda overweight, but underneath my fat I have a lot of muscle. I just want to get really good conditioning work that won't bore me to death, that's why I hate doing cardio, because it's boring as fuck, but if I have something to really train for it would motivate me.
Should I do Boxing or MMA?
>>37145184
Makes sense.
>>37145128
Rbsd bullshit doesn't train with resistance and doesn't teach technique. It's a scam preying on those with existing victim complexes.
>>37145262
A little over 3 years. It's great. Tiring as hell, but definitely not boring like other cardio. The weight will fly off without you even trying. As for what you should do, if muay thai doesn't tickly your fancy I'd choose MMA. it'll make you more well rounded than boxing will, plus your strength will actually play a bigger advantage with the ground game
>>37145262
Whichever is cheaper/closer/has a better coach
>>37145262
Have you ever done grappling?
If not, try a BJJ lesson. You're either gonna want more, or not.
If you care more about self-defense than sport, do MMA.
If you just want some fun conditioning with the added benefit of self-defense, Bjj or boxing, depending on wether you prefer striking or grappling.
I'm feeling it. My area is supposed to have a good boxing gym near by. But I would be interested in Muay Thai. I doubt I have that around here. A BJJ group isn't too far away from me, but I loved Karate growing up. So I wanna hit pads instead of rolling.
>>37145339
I've been somewhat interested in BJJ, it looks pretty interesting, if I had all the time and money I would learn BJJ and MMA, but such is life with our limitations, but I'm leaning more towards MMA because it's a bit more well rounded.
>>37145343
Most MMA gyms offer muay thai classes as well
>>37145339
I took hapkido as a kid. It had some knife defense stuff, but that was for the brown belts who were training for black belt. But the sensei I had was very inspiring and taught us discipline and work ethic. He even said 90% of fights end up on the ground, he was a school principle and witnessed fights all the time. Used to punish us with knuckle pushups and hit us with wooden sticks. I was never punished cause I obeyed all the time haha. He also introduced us to ground movement. It was very early. Most of what we did was break falls kicks and sparring. The ground stuff was interesting though, like crab walks and round house kicks while on the ground(probably wouldn't work, but in hindsight, would be awesome conditioning for getting stronger, basically was like a bodyweight exercise.) We were too weak and too young for it. I earned a blue belt. Almost ready for a green but I injured myself and my family moved away soon after.
>>37145364
I just like BJJ more because of all the rolling/sparing. I've tried MMA and it's cool, also more practical.
>>37145405
woops, was meant for >>37145128
I did a free muay thai class recently and got a nasty blister on my toe after a 1hr session. I liked the class but injury seems likely i will just continue lifting weights thank you
I know Joe Rogan is a meme, but when I saw him doing those pad kicks, I kinda got a thirst to do some martial arts.
>>37145378
fuuuuark, i am gonna do it
>>37145339
If you care more about self-defense you should be moving or, failing that, doing parkour
Which martial art is best to do if I just want to be able to fuck a dude up with my bare hands if I need to?
>>37146010
Boxing + bjj
Fencing didn't teach me shit. The only way it would be effective is if someone else had a sword and was willing to stay in a straight line.
It was so fun to stab people and it was great explosive cardio, but I feel like I should have put the time into a more functional fighting style.
>>37146010
metal tube or baseball bat.
>>37144790
>everything chinese,
San Shou and Shuai Jiao are legit
>>37144891
boxing is great for street fighting, even if your opponent is a better grappler it's not ufc where they will receive months notice that they are fighting a boxer and that it's not a good idea to trade blows with him, few good punches by surprise bare knuckle and you can drop almost anyone.
If you keep getting injured you might want to stay away from judo and wrestling if you value your knees
>>37144790
>bullshit style: all non-japanes jujutsu
>/asp/ approved style: bjj
nigga
>>37144508
Just finishing up my month n a half stay at tiger muay thai in thailand. Had my first amature fight n won. Weights are fun, but when you squat 500 pounds and so e 120 pound thai guy beats the hell outa you, you start to get it
Really wanna try boxing but there are only kickboxing and judo gyms. Went to a kickbox tryout but it was more conditioning oriented then technique.
Thinking about going to some tryouts out of ny area to get the basics and try to train myself.
>>37144790
>Approved; Kickboxing, savate
Art thou high?
>>37144508
You seem like a big guy. Boxing + judo if you want to put those muscles to good use. MMA, bjj and muay thai guys tend to be pretty lean, top level high weight-class judoka are fucking bears
>Tfw all the boxing gyms have gone out of business because trendy mcshitdojos look prettier
At least there's a few good muay thai and judo places left. Boxing gyms are always the first to go, fucking sucks
>>37148337
Judo is no good if you want to stay lean?
I'm trying to decide between the two, but Gracies seem like a buncha cunts, honestly.
>>37148370
Most boxing gyms are also predominately white. Don't get me wrong but a kickbox gym with only turks is the worst.
I did boxing, kickboxing, and judo.
FUCK ALL THOSE THINGS
MEDIEVAL MARTIAL ARTS
HEY TAKE THIS HEAVY ASS SWORD AND HIT THAT MOTHERFUCKER OVER THERE
Buy really medieval martial arts is fun a fuck
muay thai and bjj
Sanda, muay thai, boxe or savate
i want to get into martial arts but i dont really give a shit about all the dress and belt stuff
is there any art besides boxing that does that?
>>37149524
Thaiboxing, mma, grappling
>>37144790
>>37145184
it's weird. i agree with you and call bullshit one some of the things you are saying at the same time.
>>37144508
OP, just try out what floats your boat.
MMA, BJJ, Boxing, Wrestling and Muay Thai are a good starting point.
Full-Contact-Karate like Kyokushin is good if you like a more traditional approach.
if you want to learn to actually fight i can recommend some other styles, too.
The whole FMA-Complex for example.
Or even Krav Maga. It's basically a very simple form of traditional Karate, but the way these guys train with a good teacher is quite interesting.
If you are into a more traditional approach you could go with something like Goju-Ryu or one of the X-Kans (Bujinkan and so on), but the quality of the training there is heavily depending on the quality of the teacher. General rule: The less flashy, the better.
i dont understand why everyone gives krav maga shit. I know theres a lot of bullshit teachers who wants to sell it as anti-rapist for women etc
but the real art is good. Focus on groin attack and eye gouging, none of that karate elegance shit
>>37149652
because you don't actually use any of the stuff with actual non-compliant opponents. it's pointless. you do set routines just like krotty.
>>37145318
This.
Cheaper, closer, more convenient for your schedule of work and family, etc.
Any good workouts with only a 45lbs plate brehs
>>37149667
you did never actually fight in an non-gym environment, didn't ya?
>>37149667
Krab magoo is alot about taking advantage of the bodys absolute weaknesses etc. What other matrial art tells you to kick someone in the nuts? What would be most effective if you get jumped by a pack of dudes, wrestle around with one guy and get him in a triangle och kick him in the balls and run?
>>37149761
The most effective thing would be running.
Just running.
>>37149761
basically every traditional martial art.
look at karate, for example. before it was "sportified" it was a hands-on approach to survive in a combat situation.
same goes with jiu-jitsu, many kung fu-styles and so on.
but you are right. that's the way to do it.
once saw an mma guy fighting on the street. perfect takedown on one guy, the other one hit him with a bottle, blood errywhere.
that's what these nufighters don't get: their gym and even the ring or octagon is not real life.
>>37149781
no. the most effective thing is glockjutsu.
>>37148394
>boxing
>white
You've never been to California
>>37150190
I'd rather train with mexicans than turks and morrocans.
>>37150451
As would any sane human
>>37144790
Why is Jiu jitsu bullshit?
>>37148373
They're effective self promoters, and they're far from the first, and they definitely won't be the last. Japan wasn't full of zen masters doing this shit, anyone who thinks Musashi and Funakoshi got to where they were without doing a good job of spinning is kidding themselves.
>>37150190
this
Gyms in the NE are full of dominicans puerto ricans and blacks, some whites sprinkled in.
>>37150581
BJJ = Brazilian Jiu Jitsu is on the approved list because it emphasizes techniques that work on resisting opponents and sparring to teach you how to apply them to someone who is trying to stop you.
Traditional Japanese jujutsu styles generally don't focus on that, but rather codifying the original techniques into drills or forms. There isn't a lot to verify whether or not a given thing is effective. In BJJ, if a technique or defense is taught improperly, it will generally show up in sparring or competition when that person loses.
Traditional Japanese jujutsu
Yo ive been doing some kicks now for like a year or so. But when i kick high in front of me (but to the side) with my left leg i get snapping pain in my hipflexor. Whats going on ???
>>37150687
i get this too, like a clicking/snapping pain when i push my hip through in front kick/front knee (nak muay here)
>>37150687
warmup better.
Do 50 hip circles each leg, counter and clock wise.
Start doing lunges or simple bodyweight squats, it should fix it.
Your hip flexors are too strong compared to your glutes.
Can't say anything for sure before examining you or seeing your routine, but plenty ppl have tight flexors, having strong and tight flexors is not good unless glutes are kept in proportion in strength. (they dont have to be equally strong, just the natural ratio needs to be maintained.)
>>37150687
Beware, you could possibly have a sports hernia (micro tear).
The muscles in the groin and all around the leg socket respond by tightening up and trying to stabilize themselves so the tear can be fixed.
Do you have any other signs?
General soreness around the inside of the leg or front near the groin? Shouldn't be painful, but would be noticeable.
>>37151101
>>37151041
Yea you know i probobly have to weak glutes it would make sense.
Well after i've snapped it I rest for like a week and then i do mobility work until it feels alright and then i sanp it all over again when i go to hard ;_;
>>37144790
>Bullshit styles
> systema
This nigger has never been taught by a legit instructor. Legit schools are full contact, no pads or gloves
>>37151296
1)rest for 2 weeks, eat well, protein to rebuild, minerals etc. Do some light strolls to keep the blood flowing, dont sit behind pc all day, not good for balance of the muscles.
2)Week two - could use some bike rides, slow and chilled 5km at most
3) When you go back to training- do 50 circles on each leg, in each direction, slow and steady. Same for knees. Ya I know it gets boring but it makes a lot of a difference.
4)DONT do leg kicks for first week of training
5) ALWAYS warm up with slow and steady bodyweight squats, one of the best exercises for knees and hips health - do 50 reps every training but only AFTER doing hip circles.
PS: You should warm up with jumping rope, its better than running since less hip flexor movement if you do it properly.
So - warmup skip rope in intervals of 2 minutes, with pauses of 10 seconds
- hip and knee circles, and other joints, but these should be done very religiously
- 50 bodyweight squats (can do 100 after first few training sessions, if you train every other day).
- proceed with training session but dont do legs for 1st week.
THIS ADVICE APPLIES ONLY if you had NO swelling and redness with sharp pain.
REMEMBER TO STRETCH AFTER WORKOUT SLOW NO YANKING!
As you proceed you will have to increase squats in increments of 25 over several weeks. As you get stronger. Dont rush it.
SEE A REHABILITATION DOCTOR IF CONTINUES.
>>37149761
>>37149805
yeah, but you don't need to take a class specifically to kick someone in the balls, you do muay thai and learn how to kick and knee people accurately and powerfully and then knee them in the groin, and you take judo so you can dominate them in the clinch and bjj to choke them. it's not exactly rocket science fighting dirty. if you're used to fighting someone who is hitting back and evading you you are going to be in a far better position in a real fight than if you do set routines with people that are complying, end of. non-sport tested ma's are utter trash that don't prepare you for fighting real opponents at all.
imagine it, you kick/knee someone in the groin weakly - then what? groin kicks aren't always going to end a fight. a boxer knocks your teeth out, or a judoka smashes your head on the pavement and you can't do shit because all you've done is fucking meme dancing with a combat theme.
>>37151527
Yo thanks dude will do
>>37151668
i'd like to see you to saying that to an "utter trash"-fighter while he's holding a knife.
your sport has nothing to do with reality.
but that's a common symptom of the modern, western world – people like you are the nu-males of fighting.
no idea what they are blabbering about, never fought for their life, but splurting their bullshit all over online forums.
i'll tell you something: the only things you learn in one of your "sport tested" martial arts are how to hit someone, a little bit of pacing and how another body reacts to the actions of your body.
the rest is sport.
actual fighting is about why more, and that's why these reality based systems exist.
it's about how you train.
a real fight has nothing to do with your bullshit, the greatest challenge is a psychological one.
and you have to train for that. you have to train in narrow surroundings, while it is dark, lights are flashing, the ground is slippery, there is stress, there are people all around you, there's blood which is kinda as slippery as soap and burns in your eyes, there's a huge amount of fear to overcome...
that's what these systems try to prepare people for. and they succeed, if there is a good teacher.
god, how many of you "muh MMA"-apes have i seen who shit their pants the first time somebody came at them with a fucking RUBBER KNIFE like it would happen in a real confrontation.
nothing against your sport, it's great and i like to train in a gym sometimes, but shove your unfounded opinion about real combat up your probably bleached asshole.
>>37149761
the most effective technique is the one you have trained while sparring in a live environment with a non-compliant opponent.
>>37151793
fuck off, krav maga is glorified katas.
>>37151793
>muh real fighters and street wisdom
Kimbo got rekt by mma guy with pink hair and probably bleached fun zone.
:^)
>>37144508
do not start with mma,you will get utterly fucked up
get really comfortable with a striking and a wrestling martial art. you can move to mma then
>>37144573
juju gyms make you run and do handstands and summersaults for 20-30 minutes so hard youll puke before each workout
its 20% fitness 80% technique
>>37151889
>talking about combat
>mentioning kimbo
that's what i mean when i talk about nu males of fighting.
If you're doing bag work, why put on the pussy pad gloves? Why even tape?
>t-to protect my hands!
How about focusing on taking accurate, technically sound punches while you're practicing on not another person? Then when you get to put the crutch gloves on, you're that much more accurate.
>>37151793
>fighter while he's holding a knife.
id use my superior conditioning to run the fuck away, instead of getting stabbed like a krav maga or TMA practitioner would, or trying to run away and failing because your meme dancing doesn't make you in good physical shape.
>a real fight has nothing to do with your bullshit, the greatest challenge is a psychological one.
yeah cos dancing around doing set routines on people who stand still and aren't trying to hurt you in anyway is really good psychological preparation - instead of, you know, actually fucking fighting people, getting hit hard and hitting back.
>le deadly eye gouging and groin kicking!
anyone can fucking do that shit, as i said before learning real martial arts where you actually fight people will teach you how to be in a better position to do that shit. you think a boxer is incapable of punching someone in the balls? a bjj practitioner incapable of biting someone's hand or gouging someone's eyes?
sport fighting won't prepare you 100% for a street fight. but having a moving, hitting, grappling opponent who is trying to hurt you makes it a million times better than any shitty "self defence system" that is to le deadly to practice irl. krav maga sucks. systema is even worse. unless you actually hurt people and get hurt you are wasting your time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8orCCk4xWJM
>>37152803
dude, you don't even seem that retarded. maybe you'll understand what i'm saying one day.
>yeah cos dancing around doing set routines on people who stand still and aren't trying to hurt you in anyway is really good psychological preparation
you never actually witnessed a stress training, didn't you?
i don't bother to answer the rest.
that video is hilarious.
here is a video about how MMA-people (to use the same generalization you seem to like) perceive knife fighting:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ftfa1jzfg6k
and here is a video with some beginner information on how it actually works.
from one of these "utter trash"-people, btw:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E61jnJe_1SI
i've probably already been doing martial arts when your parents where fucking (yes, i'm old) and believe me, there's more to fighting than you understand right now.
i might give you one thing:
in a real fighting situation, a trained sports fighter will likely perform better than an untrained normie. but he will perform worse than the thug who knows that he has to use that knife like a sewing machine.
i'm outta here, gonna have a drink.
enjoy your evening!
Hey a Martial Arts thread that didn't get completely de-railed!
>Hur dur trained fighters know nothing about real fights Hur dur, they'll get Merced by a thug
This meme can end anytime now though. Someone who is a trained fighter will absolutely destroy a normie with no rules. But "Muh Knife defense" Martial Arts or not 9/10 someone comes at you with a knife, they're already close to you because anyone with a brain is running. Even if you successfully defend a knife attack, YOU WILL be stabbed or cut.
>>37153303
seconded. if you train martial arts your reflexes will be better, you'll be faster, and you'll likely panic less/not at all, which will all help with redirecting the knife but in all probability you'll get a cut out of it. If you see it coming however you can defend with a good distance-creating kick and gtfo
>>37148241
BJJ is derived from Judo, Brazilian Judo just doesn't sound as good
>>37153303
>A thread that hasn't been derailed!
>Tries to derail thread
Reminder that taking krav maga without having experience in an actually effective martial art is like jumping straight anything oly lifting when you've never lifted a weight in your life.
>>37153376
did you actually bother to watch my second video?
ah, and about seeing it coming and distance by the way: you don't see a knife if you're not looking for it. sat at a bus stop with a friend one day and got surrounded by some arabs. they were looking for trouble, good thing he knew one of their brothers. because afterwards we realized that some of them already had knifes in their hands while approaching.
here is a nice video about distance patterns regarding confrontations involving a knife. interesting watch, maybe:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYl2KCdFNgo
and before somebody asks:
no, i'm not doing fma. i like the adaptive movement patterns tho.
>>37144508
If you want to exercise and stay in shape, do martial arts. If you want to learn how to fight, go downtown and pick a fight with someone.
>>37153376
PS: please. never, ever kick in the general direction of someone who pulled a knife against you. throw you purse at him and run, use a chair or anything to put something in between him and you and run, but never ever try to kick him while still standing. when you're already on the ground it might be necessary, but don't do it while standing. ok?
i'm serious here, for once.
ok, i'm outta here, enjoy your evening, lads!
I miss pre-wrassling /asp/
>>37153497
you didn't post any videos breh, but no didn't watch any videos itt.
>>37153541
I don't carry a purse, I'm a guy. Also, why not front push kick? I mean I guess they could catch it if they're really fast, but I doubt they will with a knife in hand. If you have access to a char or a bottle or an ashtray no shit, use that. But if you're just on the street, and the guy already has some acceleration towards you, you can't outrun them. You have to create distance. Which even if I don't see or expect a knife is what I would do with my somewhat limited ma experience.
>>37153626
i did. here:
>>37153119
first thing they're gonna do is stab your leg. because what are you doing if someone kicks you? you try catch the leg. what will happen if you have a knife in your hands? you see, it is all about movement patterns.
had a knife in my leg once, one of these huge military monsters, missed the femoral by half an inch.
really gotta go, maybe i'll be in one of these threads again. bye!
>>37153541
Youtubers like fighttips make me sad knowing that he's giving people false confidence that they can easily disarm a knife wielding coke addict or that bullshit video every "online fight coach" has where you grab a barrel of a gun to jam it. It's almost as sad as when crossfitters do boxing work
>>37153717
Daily reminder to get your CCW Lads. Knife doesn't have shit against a full-clip.
>inb4 Blaha
I've only had to draw once and it was on a Dog.
>>37153754
Yeah 99% of people who do this will be dying/dead before they realized that they fucked up.
>>37153754
I like all of his other stuff though. MMA, muai thai, boxing, BJJ, and unarmed videos are pretty good.
>>37154080
Well ya, learning a trick or two never hurts but I'm just talking about people casually teaching moves that the best of the best should avoid doing. Can't wait for some poor fucker grabbing a revolver to try and jam it because he watched a five minute youtube video
>>37149327
This.
>>37153119
>>37153717
>I really gotta go drink sorry xD
Holy fuck what a flaming faggot lmao
>>37154431
>*tips fedora* and takes sip of mountain dew
On my mobile now. I have a social life. Which includes meeting people and having a nice night out together. You might not be familiar with that concept.
>>37154504
get off your phone and enjoy your friends' company.
>>37145428
>waaahh I got a blister this is far too dangerous
Ur a woman right?
>>37153533
lolwut
>>37145128
Problem with Hapkido is, its not regulated and anybody can call what they are doing Hapkido. So you will find some shit schools but also some good schools which spar regulary and participate in full contact competitions. It all depends om the instructor.
Originally Hapkido is based on some japanese style, mixed with judo throws and grappling, western boxing and korean kicking techniques.
Weapons stuff is mostly knife based, since that was most relevant at the time, but there are also small and long stick techniques.
>>37153758
>full-clip
You unironically carry a Mauser C96?
>>37146032
HEMA. At least you can hack at your attackers while half-swording a two hander.
>>37148373
You can lose weight while doing judo, but if you are fluffier, it won't be that much of a problem, since it's more strength-based, while striking styles are more cardio oriented.
You still get a lot of conditioning though in judo. And if you find a dojo that doesn't train exclusively for competitions, you will also learn newaza and atemi (ground stuff like bjj and strikes)
>>37144508
I'm in the same boat as you OP. Similar lifts although my bench and squat were a little lower. I got to a point where I couldn't push my lifts higher without dramatically increasing my training time and exposing myself to more injury.
I like martial arts because, although fitness plays a huge role, they are technique based. The moves a BJJ black knows aren't physically impossible for a white belt. Like I said, I'm fairly fit, but I routinely get my ass kicked by DYELs, fatties, and old people who outperform me technically. It's very humbling, teaches discipline, teaches some self defense, and is good conditioning and general exercise.
I do BJJ twice a week, sambo (god tier martial art IMO) one a week, and rock climb three times a week. I throw running and general strength training in there as well, although I'm not making it my primary focus any more.
>>37154585
Kek'd, I also like to carry my M1 garant in my back pocket.
>>37155038
Garand*
Russian sambo. If you have any classes around you i would highly recommend that, its a mix of many arts. However i rarely see many places that teach it
im too autistic and shy to just meet up in some random dojo
how do i get into mma?
>>37155596
just go there. i met a lot of people like you in my training career and they all thawed within one training session.
there's hardly a place that is as welcoming and friendly for people who are eager to learn as a good dojo or gym. i promise.
>>37144891
>boxing teaches you to box, not to fight
What a dumbass statement, you think learning how punch isn't going to help you in a fucking fight?
I have an opportunity to learn jiu-jitsu and wing Chun (I know) both one and on and sparring for 60 a month. Good deal or should I pass on it? And would it even be worth it to learn considering I'm just trying to get better at fighting?
>>37144790
Kyokushin practicioner here... Do kyokushin if you want to feel death and overcome it...
>>37155706
take jiu-jitsu.
wing chun/tsun/tzunwhatevs is for duels against other martial arts, to understand it's value you need a lot of experience beforehand.
>>37155731
you mean the death of your thighs, don't you?
>>37155746
That and having to fight over an hour straight for your black belt test is pretty rough...
>>37155770
i have the greatest respect for every kyokushin guy. did spar with some of them and fought one once. that was tough shit.
Do you guys think that someone like Michael jai white can actually fight?
As far as I know he spent his entire life doing martial arts of all kinds.
There is this one video where he shows kimbo slice a different way of punching that seems to be way harder to avoid.
But stuff like this always feels to hypertherotical with no real world application.
What with people that spend 20-30 years traveling and learning about martial arts, doing nothing but spending all their time into training with different styles around the world.
Do you think such people could stand a chance vs actual MMA fighters?
>>37144891
oh please fuck off, boxing is one of the top fighting styles that actually works as self defense
>>37148202
And both inferior to comparable styles.
>>37156203
San shou fighters beat muay thai fighters regularly.
>>37155746
>wing chun/tsun/tzunwhatevs is for duels
If by duels you mean getting your face smashed in and/or ragdolled by anyone with 6 months in a not-bullshit style
>>37156214
Feel free to post some videos of all the san shou guys winning at lumpinee
>>37148336
>>37148336
yeah man those dutch kickboxers are PUSSIES.
>>37156233
nah. it's actually a pretty good concept, but the people who train in that style without any further experience are not prepared for real fighting, you're right there.
like i said before: it's all about patterns that you memorize to a degree that they become part of your reptilian brain, kind of.
>>37156245
Feel free to post some videos of all the muay thai guys winning san shou tournaments.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwyDS6uzOiQ
>>37156316
> only effective in grappling range
> no grappling defense
Yeah, real good concept
>>37156372
you don't get it. which isn't bad, i don't like wing tsun either. went to one training session and asked about them knives.
never went there again.
in my opinion, it's close to an interior style (you know, tcma, yaddayadda). and that's something only people like me, that are in the game for 20+ years, get.
wing tsun has it's purpose. even for mma fighters.
>>37156345
See the footwork difference? Muay Thai fighters have shitty slow footwork and aren't used to fighting at pace. Muay thai is cumbersome compared to other striking styles.
