What is the natty limit?
This guy hasn't been getting noticeable gains since he started the channel, and I'd assume he was training the whole time. Is this guy the natty limit?
1. that guy doesn't train effectively. he kind of fucks around
2. natty limit is different for everyone.
>>37130774
Maybe he's happy with what he has and doesn't work out that much?
Fuck I'd be happy with this stage.
>>37130800
>doesn't train efficiently
>looks like that
Have you ever entered a gym?
>>37130774
Hes funny but he isnt much of an expert. He naturally had a good starting point and started lifting. He did the typical gymrat routines and got gains. But he cant go further. Fucker has difficulty curling 35s
Yeah, honestly. That's p close to the natty limit
>>37130800
>>37130851
>retards who think the character is actually him
>>37130857
This. Mike is fucking awesome outside of character as well
>>37130848
You must be used to a shitty gym. Mine is mostly college kids, and I'd 40+% of the guys look like Dom or swoler
>hasn't been getting noticeable gains since...
wow that's one unbelievably retarded criteria to tell if somone is on steroids or not
Dexter Jackson has been the same size for like 15 years, does that mean anything?
>>37130857
>That's p close to the natty limit
wait who is the retard? what if OP is a 5'2 4 inch wrist cunt? stop lying faggot
natty limit is pic related
>>37130919
Nah it's pic related
>>37130894
That's not what I was referring to. He hasn't been getting noticeable gains, so that means his progression decreased, meaning he is reaching his limit.
Also if I was wasting perfectly good steroids to achieve a body like that I'd hunt down my source for giving me fake steroids.
>>37130949
or maybe he spends more time making his shitty skits to keep making money off dumbass bodybuilders with no sense of humor
maybe hits the gym once a week tops
>>37130919
>d. va
>black hair
>>37130949
you should hunt down your parents for giving you genetics that make you a literal retard
you literally don't know shit about limit and rate of natty gains and steroids
>>37130962
Which is why I asked if it was the natty limit?
>>37130978
Done
>>37130962
>hits the gym once a week tops
kid your heart is gonna get fucking broken in half eventually when you learn about the natty limit if right now you think that's a body you can get in a couple years and then maintain by going to the gym once a week
>>37130857
No one thinks thats really him ya doofus. Doesnt make him any less of a loser.
>>37131006
>implying
both of the posts talked about Mike like he was Dom
>>37130919
who is this semen demon
>>37130995
your posts make it clear as a day you're still making noobgains and have no idea about what happens after 2nd year of lifting. you have to see for yourself like most people.
>>37130995
If i created you, id kill myself too.
>>37131016
I wrote the second one and i wasnt inferring that at all. You are the one implying. Dude can still barely do 35lb curls
He curls 1pl8
>>37131043
>Dude can still barely do 35lb curls
>>37130997
hahaha my best friend is bigger than that lankley youtuber and hes 6,2 bearmode... then again he is a bit chunky and his strength and size comes with a prize... perma bulking. but yes brah natty limit is a good limit as long as you're not lifting for aesthetics
>>37131043
He doesn't do actual curls in his videos. You do realize that, right?
There is no limit. Look at pro athletes, they're all natty.
>>37131138
He said something on a video with Bradley Martin about how he works out a lot less now than when he first started, because when he goes to the gym now he's mostly trying to make videos and shit. If you look at his early videos he's in much better shape than he is now, and I'm sure he would have progressed if he kept up the same level of work. So no, not the natty limit
>>37130851
Seriously? I though he was strong since he could dumbbell press 150 each arm
>>37131186
He can curl way more than that. You know how /fit can be sometimes.
>>37130774
1/3.
That's a very interesting question; one I have often pondered this myself. I'd say there are tiers of natty limits. For the sake of simplicity, let's say there are three tiers. There are definitely more than that, but let's keep it simple. Most people will fall somewhere between these tiers.
I'll start with an example of absolutely shit tier genetics: Robert Cheeke. Vegan natty bodybuilder who started at a weight of 120 lb and it took him 10 years to get up to 170. Horrible insertions and flat as a pancake on any kind of cut. I'm not kidding when I say this guy looks TERRIBLE on stage in contest condition. Google his contest pics if you're really curious. But here's a pic of him in the off season at a reasonable bf %. With modest angling and decent lighting, he looks very good.
Of course, everything is relative. If I told you this guy has been training for decades and has basically dedicated his life to bodybuilding, you might say he's a disappointment. But he looks absolutely fantastic by the standards of normies. I'd say this is something anyone can realistically aspire to with enough dedication. Yes, we can all really make it, bro.
>>37130774
2/3
Middle tier would be a slightly smaller version of Adam Rose, who is upper-middle tier. He looks huge because this is a good angle and his arms are genetically blessed. But the rest of him isn't as impressive, especially without the camera tricks. Bear in mind he's only 195 lb at 6'2. I can see why people would say he's way above the natty limit in his recent Instagram pics but I'm not sure (instagram.com/adamrosevision). I actually think he's using some kind of filter to make himself look bigger. This behavior is arguably more dishonest than just using steroids since at least /fraud/s actually look huge in real life, but I digress. You can see what he really looks like in his interview with Ric Drasin.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOQv1oWolzY
>>37130774
3/3
And finally you have the insane, one in a million elite tier genetics. We're talking about the true freaks here. Hermann Goehrer was 6'1, 245 lb with abs and came from an era before steroids. The early Ronnie Coleman pics are also insane (from a time he claimed to be totally natty; who knows if he was half natty but I actually suspect he may have been natty in the early amateur contests because he was SUCH a freak). But just to give you an idea of what insane, mind blowing genetics could look like, here's a vid.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqlgz9y9kag
>>37130848
He has a second channel for himself as himself, instead of as Dom. His chest day was fuckarounditis.
>>37131670
Tier 3 needs to include Jesse Norris.
>lean 200lb at 5'9 with an 800lb diddly
>>37131670
Holy fuck, do you believe he was natty there?
>>37130774
Everything about that image is cringe.
Like, did he really think that shirt was clever?
>>37131640
>Google Robert Cheeke
Why did I do that?
Jesus, those negative calves. Ill never complain about my legs again.
>>37131756
Am I being reverse trolled
>>37131722
Coleman? I don't know but if anyone could look within 15 lb of that without taking anything, it would be him. The crazy thing about that video is he had only been properly bodybuilding for 2 years or so; before that, he was just a powerlifter. Of course, he was already looking like superhuman in those days.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BuzeyFIYMSM
He's basically the definition of a genetic freak. He's SO freaky it's baffling. I remember him telling stories in Muscular Development about how his entire life, he was always the biggest strongest guy around, even way before he started lifting weights. Like when he was 13, people would look at him and say "Wow, you must be a weightlifter" and that was before he even started working out. Chris Cormier, a former rival of Ronnie's for the Olympia title, swears Ronnie was natural when he turned pro and for several years after that. He said he could tell when Ronnie made the switch because it was so obvious. I guess Chris would know better than us. It's not like he'd have a reason to lie. There was also an entire issue dedicated to Ronnie where other pros told stories about how insanely, ridiculously strong he was by any standard, especially compared to other pro bodybuilders who were all taking massive amounts of gear.
Bear in mind, he's a southern black man with obvious slave genetics. I'm not being humorous; I really do believe he's the beneficiary of a primitive eugenics program on a plantation in the 18th century where the strongest slaves were bred with each other to have strong offspring.
>>37131043
DYEL curlbro detected
>>37131830
>Implying powerlifters aren't on juice
Bro.
>>37130851
>Fucker has difficulty curling 35s
maybe he has shitty wrists like me, i can't do 35's for shit, even with 30 my wrist hurt like hell, so i curl light for a lot of reps, like, a lot
>>37131830
Your secondvideo is from 1994. The first video is from 1991. Your numbers don't add up.
>>37130983
dont ask that retarded fucking question because there is no answer...
the natty limit is different from person to person.
someone with shit genes might only reach 165lb 10% at 5'10, someone with better genes might right 185-190lbs 10% at 5'10. it depends
>>37131881
I don't know if he competed in powerlifting before 1994 but he definitely trained exclusively as a powerlifter for the first 13 years of lifting weights. Or at least, he has claimed this many times.
>>37131867
That definitely wasn't implied. Obviously they juice their asses off. I'm actually not sure how you could arrive at that conclusion based on what I wrote.
The only thing implied is the obvious--that he's a genetic freak who may have been natty in the first vid.
The natty limit is heavily dependent on bf%. IMO the sweet spot is around 17-18% where you can have full muscles and look big in clothes without looking like shit shirtless. Trying to get great abs and cut to 10% is where most natties fuck up and lose gains.
>>37131640
Fucking christ that dude's sad to look at for having lifted for 10 years. I feel bad for him
>>37131655
I've only been lifting 10 months so it's probably too early to tell, but it seems like I fall into middle tier
>>37131640
Lmao Hes 36? The poor guy looks like he's pushing 50. I'm glad I'm not vegan.
>>37130825
Lol not everybody drops everything in their life to reach the "natty limit." There's life outside the gym guys.
>>37130919
daymm
>>37132174
This. What the fuck? Thought the guy was mid 50s at least.
>Veganism
>Not even once
>>37131757
He's 36?!? My god... I thought he was 50... seriously.
>>37130774
He said in a out of character video with Bradley Martyn that he doesn't workout consistently or keep a proper diet, and that when he does it to maintain his appearance for the channel
>>37131670
I'd fucking piss my pants if I was on stage with him
>>37133922
I remember the first dom out of character video and 75% of /fit/ lost their mind because it was a character
>>37131989
17%-18% Bodyfat the sweetspot?
what the fuck
>>37133922
Yeah i saw him in a video and he had a normal shirt on looking really dyel
>>37130851
Curling high volume is better for bicep growth anyways
>>37131720
over 2000 total and you think he's natty?
k-k-k-kekles
>>37134074
this
actually, didn't he set a world record that even non-tested guys can't beat? if so, that is pretty damning. i might be confusing my fake natties, though.
>>37130774
Please go back and watch his first videos and compare him to now
He looks almost twice the size arms wise
>>37131060
>Permabulking
A good way to die young and alone
>>37131138
Didn't we already have a thread about this shoop?
Do you get paid for this or do you do it for free?
>>37130774
He does a bro split as a natty so he'll never get much bigger.
>>37131640
>>37131655
>>37131670
>>37131830
You're so fucking clueless lad, lmao
>>37131989
nah man 15% is the sweet spot, you still look huge and have just enough ab definition that normies think you have a 6pack
>>37134201
>>37130774
this, he definitely got bigger compared to 5 years ago
![13076617_10153556934534562_3714664847403733742_n[1].jpg_oh=1115a46136d02f2210673fdeb8668549&oe=57E1C05B.jpg](https://i.imgur.com/9O7wVbM.jpg "13076617_10153556934534562_3714664847403733742_n[1].jpg_oh=1115a46136d02f2210673fdeb8668549&oe=57E1C05B.jpg")
>>37130774
The sky is the limit anon, if you get any bigger than the sky no chick would want to fuck you
>>37131693
link?
>>37130944
9/10 trap doujin to be honest family
