OLYMPICS Weightlifting General
A thread for the discussion of the sport of weightlifting and all things related. Keep the insults and shitposting to a minimum.
>superior russians edition
>If you are new to weightlifting please read these first and check the other sources they link to before asking questions:
http://www.chinfl.blogspot co.uk/2013/07/how-into-weightlifting.html
http://www.reddit.com/r/weightlifting/wiki/faq
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/mjgz5nmcikhhvnu/28iq3URWUW
>helpful blog on some technique quirks:
yashathoughts.com
>The information that you are looking for is probably in the above links.
That includes routines, shoes, information on the lifts, etc. Check out the pastebins for literature or the reddit faq for general information.
Included in this youtube playlist are videos related to weightlifting which you may find useful or insightful:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCl3WCm2GfvLxvH877oJ1xEA/playlists
>Commisar's notes on the dank, zesty Meme Method (DZMM)
http://pastebin.com/u0jiY8sM
this fool is still so strong for a 35 yr old dude
>>37130052
>giant american flag
>>37130155
what are you trying to say
In for no twinks
>>37130188
is that you deliuge?
Guys I got a 200kg training total, so im going to start tripping. Any suggestions on trip names?
>>37130346
Pas
Difference between snatch deadlifts and snatch grip deadlifts pls
>>37130081
How do people manage to fuck up their bar path so bad?
>this fool is still so strong for a 35 yr old dude
I think at that age you start to lose strength in dynamic/explosive movements and mobility but grip and static strength go up.
>>37130346
Yung Clean
>>37130387
>How do people manage to fuck up their bar path so bad?
are you talking about berestov's bar path
apparently it's not bad enough that he won the gold in the olympics
it's just bad because you said so, an internet expert coach
>>37130405
Talking about the push press not the clean, how does it end up so forward?
>>37130419
he just dont have the strength to finish the lift that's why he throws it in front, it can stay right above his head forever but it won't lockout because it's heavy
>>37130384
the other is a meme the other one is maymay
>>37130419
>>37130432
It looks like if he just got his head/body under, more forward, he could have gotten it.
>>37130527
he just wasn't trying very hard, he already won the olympics
>>37130527
he's done 200 off the racks for a double, that power clean looks hard so he dont have enough to finish it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAupmbtJJi0
>>37130387
>to lose strength in dynamic/explosive movements
so what was he doing? isn't that explosive movement? which means ur wrong lmaooo
real thread
>>37131488
>>37131488
>>37131488
>>37131567
no
enough is enough
>>37131955
this makes me want to hyperventilate
>>37130346
benis
>>37132654
dont make fun of this natty weightlift
I just bought plates and a barbell. Is this routine fine?
Day 1
Snatch
Snatch Pull
Front Squat
Day 2
Jerk
Push Press
Overhead Squat
Day 3
Clean & Jerk
Clean Pull
Front Squat
Day 3 normally has back squats but I don't have a squat rack yet.
>>37133343
so you're gonna clean the bar before front squatting it?
IMO just increase pull volume until you get a rack
also maybe instead of ohs do bodybuilding stuff
>>37133412
>so you're gonna clean the bar before front squatting it?
That was the plan.
>IMO just increase pull volume until you get a rack
>also maybe instead of ohs do bodybuilding stuff
Could you be more specific? I do have some dumbbells (up to 25lbs).
>>37133532
well you're probably not advanced tier so you should probably work on lots of BB work. I like 5x10, but you can do anything high total volume
shoulders (db press, klokov press, ohp, push press)
upper back (rows, front rack holds, rear delt flyes)
triceps (dips, plate extensions, cgbp)
lower back (back hypers, supermans, reverse hypers, good mornings)
core (rollouts, planks, leg raises (non squat day only))
throw in core and lower back every day, but once or twice a week you should pick a muscle group or two and hammer it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8footxl2S4 im 19 and weight 198 and bench 245 thoughts
>>37133634
fukken weak and retarded and no one cares im just here to give you a (you)
>>37133689
btw pls dont bomb me i didnt realize u was a terrorist till i actually clicked on it
im sorry man
>>37133586
A lot of this requires extra equipment I don't have, but I'll remember to factor in some volume work.
>>37133586
What can I do when I suffer from knee pain through squats?
You weight lifters squat quite quad dominant and for that you allow your knees to be quite close in.
And I watched a lot of powerlifter perform maximal weights and they too get their knees in for heavy lifts.
Why do my knees ache and hurt whenever I I do not have them absurdly pushed out? (Which makes me around 20kg weaker)
Don't get it.
>>37133813
first off, where on the knee is there pain? What part of the lift makes it hurt/what movement?
there's a possibility you're shoving knees forward and putting strain on patellar tendon
>>37133835
Hard to tell, I can't feel it anywhere specific.
It's like in the upper part of the knee, all around, a kind of burning pain that is somewhat deep in the knee.
It's like the entire knee joint is aching, hard to describe.
My knees never really feel totally comfortable, but when I force my knees to stay out on the way up in the squat then they definitely feel better.
But this kind of movement makes the whole squat kind of hip and aductors only - I feel my quads way less and I am also easily 20 kg weaker.
The pressure on my knees that I can feel during squats kind of feels like when I stand up and then bend my knees, allowing my bodyweight to shift onto them.
That already feels really uncomfortable and starts this burning feeling.
>>37133835
Mate I can't do any overheads right now both shoulders hurt if I do any pressing or jerk doesn't matter if there's 100kg on the bar or 20kg what do I do?
>>37133929
sounds to me like ur a bitch
>>37133929
yeah I have exactly the same issue, so I know what you're talking about. Next time you lift, instead of focusing on keeping knees 'close in' or however you think about your body moving, just ignore your knees completely. Focus on nothing, or even just close your eyes, and instead visualize your hips moving forward and down, with the weight balanced on the midfoot and back straight
>>37133943
that's kind of non-specific, does it hurt more when elbows are forward or out to side? Is anything tight like triceps? pic related
>>37133970
Alright - hipe drive is actually a thing I never cued and kind of missed out on.
And then I will also try to bring my stance in a little while making my feet less angled.
They are pretty aggressively rotated, which I kind of got used to when I started squatting because they would naturally shift into such rotation throughout a set.
I have a few things left that I can try and expiriment with, but I am beginning to have this bad feeling that for some reason I can't squat properly without killing my knees.
>>37133970
Bar position makes no difference. I think I might have some tendonitis in shoulder.
>>37133634
That's good man
>>37133689
Pussy let's see what you got
>>37134026
not quite hip drive, hip stability. You should be in control of your torso angle the whole time, with core strongly braced so that you know where the bar is and where your torso is
and don't shift in or anything, just pick a stance that feels comfy and lets your torso drop between legs. Squats that don't hurt are definitely possible, but in order to achieve them you need to avoid jutting your knees forward because that eccentric load of all the weight on your back is gonna fuck em. Just focus on engaged quads, as if you're letting your dick lead the way and holding position using quads
>>37134032
yeah that's possible too
rest and mobilize fahm
>>37134246
Alright lad, thanks a lot for your input - I will try and see if I can fix it.
I have no idea why I run into so many problems though. It's disgusting, stuck at 4pl8 already, goddamn it.
I believe really strong lifers are just blessed with not running into such hurdles.
>>37130176
OP:
>superior russian edition
with an american flag in the background
>>37134388
I'm stuck at 3.5pl8 and have probably been lifting a lot longer. Part of it was that I learned to low bar and switching to high bar just gave me does not compute errors, was doing the wrong shit all the time
I'm going to just do lunges for 15 minutes to build up work capacity, is this a good idea? Should I add anything else in?
>>37134722
I think I am close to already around 1.5 years into squatting.
But well, consider that I weight 120kg (6'4).
I doubt you are that heavy.
What is holding you back at the moment? You also mentioned knee pain - still having that?
>>37134817
partially, but when I squat by breaking at the knee, forcing them out to make room for torso, and a widish stance, I just develop no power. It takes maybe 40kg off my squat, and feels so awkward that I hate it
>>37134424
Are you stupid
>>37134834
Yeah, just like me ... .
I spent hours watching classic powerlifting (IPF) people squatting, watched Clarence as bit, highbar weightlifter, etc.
None of them have their knees far out when they push out of the hole.
Most of them already have them quite far together and those that do not have them come in once they got out of the hole.
I mean, just watch Clarence do heavy squats - the exact knee movement that he does when he tries to push up is what I get too when I try to get heavy weight up.
But it seems that for me it kills my knees and for him (and all others) it doesn't even seem to bother them.
>>37134879
Clarence's knees at this point are basically scar tissue held together by bone spurs, so I suspect its less a matter of not hurting and more him not caring.
>>37134879
part of it I think is hip socket related, I am extremely strong at lockout (I've done a pin squat at 260kg before) but extremely weak when I'm super deep and knees are apart
>>37134898
This.
Clarence's knees are/were fucked big time.
>>37134898
Must be a pretty we'll working conjunction if it holds together under the weight that he moves.
>>37134984
But why is it that our knees hurt under the same circumstances that others knees don't?
I don't get that.
>>37135037
because I don't think they're actually the same circumstances
could also be we're both tight in quads or something
>>37135068
Sigh.
So, what's your plan?
>>37134898
iktf but I'm much much weaker than he is ;-;
>>37134796
Sounds fukken dumb but u always were desu
>>37135037
Genetics mate.
Just have some fish and olive oil, it helps.
i thought deliuge left china and was studying in us now? what's he doing taking pictures with diane food
http://m.france24.com/en/20160414-vegetarian-strongman-weightlifter-ilya-ilyin-eyes-3rd-gold-rio
He's actually a vegetarian?
>>37137713
Yes, nowadays at least. He talks about it here http://www.allthingsgym.com/dmitry-klokov-interviews-ilya-ilyin/
Hey can someone post a picture of klokov with his Olympic gold medals?
>>37137713
He's on every drug known to man so I'm sure he could live on protein powder and oats alone and still be as strong as he is.
>>37137755
Delet this
>>37137755
This is a joke right. Shitklov never won gold.
>>37137755
Klokov may not.have been the best ruski lifter
But is he the most charismatic?
>>37138493
no koklyaev was ahead of klokov, even before klokov became a thing there was koklyaev everywhere
and he was a way better lifter than klokov too probably would have won gold if they let him compete
>>37138505
>implying Klokov wouldn't have gotten gold in 2012 if he had competed
>>37138636
Akkaev would if he competed too
>>37138683
Would've been a good show tbqh
Instead we barely even got a competition in the 105kg class.
>>37137925
That's not gold.
>>37138505
Idk he's cool but idk if he is as charismatic and saying he's way better isn't very fair seeing as he weighed about 55kg heavier
>>37139221
I'm saying koklyaev was closer to both Wrs
I'm not comparing their numbers directly
Are you fucking retarded?
W-wew >>37139367
How do you guys build work capacity/build cardio?
>>37139492
by doing cardio
>>37139492
Idk maybe volume?
Shit that's so hard to figure out damn
>>37130619
I was talking about peak strength, he won't get stronger the older he gets.
>>37139492
Eating and sleeping well
Volume workouts
Doing cardio
not rocket science
>>37139502
>>37139500
Ok how do I do this at home? Or where can I put it Into a program?
>>37139539
jump rope, GOAT
>>37139560
Can't I just do like 500 overhead squats with a broom? As we'll as handstand holds ?
>>37139480
Wow this is the first time a country has ever doped its athletes to get gold at the olympics!
Good find I rep you when I recharge!!!
>>37139629
>500 overhead squats with a broom
bro just buy a rope, you're wasting your time if you need two fucking hours of exercise to accelerate your heart rate
>>37139453
That's not a very good way of comparing if someone is better either
I think we're both retarded
>>37139695
I mean it only takes 20 minutes at most. Why not do something more sports specific ?
>>37139855
S I N C L A I R
>>37139653
The exposure of a state-sanctioned doping system is news, no matter how jaded you are about doping in general.
>>37139941
Yeh but desu m8 this news broke ages ago not really alot new
Russia doped, fake wada lab, blahblahblah
>>37139941
Yeah well based off Sinclair klokov would be the better lifter so that guy is wrong then
>>37138739
what exercise is that?
should i do it in sets of 5 reps?
>>37139977
So? Please enlighten me on what's the problem here.
>>37140005
quoted you accidentally sorry.
>>37140088
Nothing wrong m8 just it's not new news so that's why people arent too bothered anymore
>>37140005
Sinclair favors lighter lifters idiot, ofc klokov would have better Sinclair compared to a super heavy
i snatched 100kg today wheres my trip
>>37137875
>Shitklov
how dares
>>37141320
It's in your heart
>>37139861
500 overhead squats is not really sport specific
>>37139492
increasing amount of backoff, exercises done or sessions
>>37139539
>go outside
>find a mild incline
>sprint up mild incline ~100 meters
>walk back down mild incline
>rest for 30-60s
>sprint back up mild incline
>walk back down mild incline
>rest for 30-60s
etc etc for like 10 rounds.
>>37139861
YOUR GPP DOES NOT NEED NOR SHOULD IT BE SPORT SPECIFIC.
>>37141304
Explain how it does
You don't know
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRgQu7OwHpk
N E W
E
W
>tfw 105kg total now
See you in Rio.
>>37144780
Wow how are you so strong. How long you been train man
>>37144850
You need to eat clen and tren hard from child.
deliuge is officially going to ireland to train with clarence
get hype
>>37144886
Will he finally lift the 50kilos
>>37144886
>Clarence
>lifting
pick one
The female chinese team are so fucking thick and sexy.
I just want to fuck at least one of them
Feeling real down seeing all these gifted athletes get more attention from the coach, been hitting records all the time too but I'm not good enough
Shittt
Going to bed lads
Tomorrow morning could be fun
tomorrow evening should be fun
I've got dr. pepper at the house which is nice
wish owg wasnt dead
>>37146248
Goodnight commissar don't let the loli bite.
>>37146281
But that's the only way i can sleep!
>>37146313
>>37146313
Ok let the loli bite
>>37145726
yeah we're actually just gonna meet up to fuck
no lifting involved
>>37146413
So....Ilya is a vegetarian?
>>37146438
Ya he's just fat as fuck but only eats broccoli
>>37146435
this could be us but u playin
>>37146438
Yeah, though he switched sort of recently http://www.allthingsgym.com/dmitry-klokov-interviews-ilya-ilyin/
I feel like this same exchange of posts has happened in this same thread before...
>>37146413
how do you have funds to do these trips?
r u a trustfund baby
>>37146518
ye
my dad owns a blue lambo
>>37130052
What happened to the pastebins?
>>37143265
>those tian tao warmup scenes
HE JUST KEEPS GETTING THICKER YEAR AFTER YEAR
>>37148133
What a pity he bombs errytim
