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Syeroids general.
Jerrbears and we're all gonna make it.
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>>37069730
>>37078355
Aw yus
>>37078355
YES YES JERRBEARS FTW
Also manlet faggots
Jerrbears and FL gf
What is everyone running right now and how are you liking it?
I'll start. All fucking natty.
Not as bad as I thought it would be. Haven't lost any muscle or strength. Just water and endurance. So I'm still pushing the same weights just not for as many reps. Will be hopping back on in a couple weeks and when i do i'll be running
350mg test p
700mg tren a
350mg mast p
50mg proviron
Slin preworkout and postworkout to keep from going flat. Seriously muscle fullness on slin is unlike any oral or carb cycling ever.
Might add epistane or winny towards the end.
Also thinking about running DHT Base (androstene) either towards the end or after im done dieting. Anyone have experience with such a compound?
Just bought my NASM self study package. Any personal trainers here? Was the exam hard?
steroids are for manlet faggots
>>37078391
>those eyes
>that hair
>>37078487
Pls.
I've been working out natty for a year, on a PPL routine. I've made great progress and my goal is to achieve an aesthetic body. I'm nearly there, but I'm not sure if lifting another year will get me there.
Do I need to fraud to get aesthetics? Or is aesthetics a combination of genetics (height, face, frame).?
Last question, is this dude natty? I thinking he has god tier genetics https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4ZIfWQqJmg
>>37078553
gonna cruise on 250 test and 300 eq for the next few months.
have recent cb?
>>37078355
So glad I decided to visit today
thought I'd try something a little different today
So I copied down one of Bradley martin's upper body routines
Spent the last 1.5 hours doing max fucking reps
I don't feel sore.... Just tired
Wasn't exactly satisfying
Where are all the DNP threads?
Lmao ex hit me up a few hours ago:
>"hey uh I can't find my white crop top, did you tear it up like the others or is it at your place...?"
Lmao what a fucking reach of an excuse. You know where to buy clothes. You know where your own clothes are. If you want me to come over and fuck you, you should say so.
I ignored her.
>>37078833
Yeah because its a program for Bradley Martin not you. Everything needs to be tailored.
>>37079035
W2C bespoke lifting program
>>37078948
Not that you aren't right so far, but is there something she could even say to you that wouldn't be interpreted as her continuing this pattern of bad behavior?
>>37079139
Not really.
She's so insular. If she cuts someone out, they're out. Any type of contact from her, seemingly trivial or otherwise is a cry for attention.
>>37078948
Far out she is fucking crazy about you..... And you about her, because you're talking about it here
The feels dude
>>37079035
Well yeah of course
Just thought it would be fun to try something different after doing the same program for months.
In the end I just feel tired
Probably has to do from swapping from doing 8-10 reps to doing 12-15 or to failure
Also used some machines I've never touched
Did give me some good ideas though
>>37079155
Jerrbears confirm it to be true. It's a fucking tshirt. There's no reason for her to ask me about a shirt. She just needed an excuse to feel me out.
Can anybody vouch for 24dnp? I'm probably ordering tomorrow and I just want some reassurance
>>37079157
Yeah man. Absolutely. I've been fighting the urge to call her for a booty call forever now.
She was pretty rabid about cutting me off, and now she's asking about a shirt. Desperate as fuck.
>>37079269
So r u bud. Meant for each other.
>>37079291
Maybe. Maaaaayyybaaayyyyy.
>>37079291
If we're talking about the nutter then yeah I think they'd be good (once she sorts things out)
>>37079319
Idk duder.
Best physical connection I've ever had but I think ESTP had a point: she's just manipulating me for validation and positive attention. Sex too. I'm good at that and depressed women seem to use sex as an escape.
>>37079269
Poor girlie
Self esteem issues must be hard to live with
>>37079369
Yeah but did you enjoy the time with her? It's only really explotation if one side is getting screwed (no pun intended). I mean she may not be ltr material but a nice casual relationship is always fun.
>>37079429
I mean it could be wishful thinking and she totally just wants a shirt.
That doesn't seem to apply to Occams razor though; simplest answer seems to be she wants my attention:
>>37079445
Could drive her fucking nuts by saying yes you have it (if you do)
Then when she shows up to get it, hand it to her, close the door.
It'd drive her mental
If you don't just say no don't have it, then refuse to answer any messages after that.
>>37079473
I haven't replied. I'm waiting to see what else I get. I probably won't respond but I'm debating just calling her out and saying "if you want to get fucked, ask me don't ask me about a shirt".
>>37079489
lol she will immediately deny it
>>37079489
Send her pictures of all your white shirts one by one
>>37079551
holly fuck I laughed
>>37079551
Yes.
>>37079577
Jerrbears settles it
>>37079551
All my nipple blood stained shirts
>>37079521
She's horny enough that she reached out. She'd say noooo but come over. Seriously after she came out she texted me about a book and seven hours later she was choking on my cock.
>>37079442
Totally. She's great except for the back and forth.
>>37079622
Double jerrbears. You gotta send shirt pics now.
>>37079734
It's like it was meant to be.
>grill from work asks me for my number and if I'd work out with her
>let's do legs anon
I did legs yesterday. Should I go with her and do my arms/chest or should I do legs for the second day in a row. I did them yesterday.
>>37079781
Holy shit autismo.
>did legs yesterday
>I did them yesterday
>>37079781
Do legs if they're not too sore. Otherwise you might come off as a tryhard. Use the opportunity to spot and coach forn. Go with god
>>37079781
I have a fucking crazy idea
Tell her you did legs yesterday so you'll be taking it easy, but you're more than happy to spot while she does weights much heavier than what you're doing.
>WOAH! HUMAN INTERACTION MAN
Steroids are for autistic manlet faggots
>>37079781
Bro you're not ACTUALLY going to train legs. Your going to fuck her.
>>37079814
>does weights heavier than what I'm doing
U wot m8
>>37079823
I really wanted to do chest an arms. Guess it can wait for tomorrow.
Hey brehs so I'm natty been priming for my 2nd cycle starting tomorrow, I've been eating 4000cal a day for the past 5/6 weeks. Now due to this I've been shitting a lot more than Im used to. And now my anus feels like it's permanently on fire like someones wiping hydrochloric acid on there or sone shit. Will sterons help me absorb all this food rather than shit it out? I'm running 500 test 500 eq anadrol kickstart 50mgED
>>37079825
I can only assume that the qt will be lifting heavy while you do bitch weights due to being sore from doing legs yesterday?
Or are you planning on trying to hit PRs?
>>37079734
I'm gonna do this. After work I'll cut off some of my white shirts and ask if these are the shirts she is missing.
HOLY FUCKING SHIT LEVRONE JUST CAME OUT OF RETIREMENT
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Qozj1a_NBYE
>>37079869
Qt is going to be lifting nearly nothing. She's not hightest.
Probably won't be putting up near my weight on anything m8
>>37079910
And you wanted my help. You're fine pupper.
If I swing this right I'm getting laid tonight. Whewwww.
>>37079857
Fuck you guys answer my question
>>37079894
A lot of guys talk like that honestly. I'll reserve judgement until I see him in contest prep, but can anyone really say at his age that he can hang with the big dogs? If he can more power to him, but if he can't, he's really putting his body through a lot at a late age for not much.
>>37079935
What do you think stupid? You think steroids make you absorb your own shit? Fuck outta here.
>>37079925
Changing my trip to pupper
>>37079935
Stop eating foods that irritate your GI. Shit should have clean breaks with minimal wiping. If you're wiping your asshole raw, you're not: getting enough fiber, or you're eating carbs that digest too quickly i.e. Gastric dumping.
>>37079957
*takes trip off*
>an actual nutrition related question! Fuck this retard!
*trip back on* finally, back to posting asses and talking about my ex
>>37079935
Oh and by the way you aren't natty if you're prepping for your second cycle. Shithead.
>>37079885
Keep us updated bro. Pics of chat etc kek
>>37079959
Thanks brehs <3
damn holy shit i felt like a corpse on DNP and now I started taking caffeine and now I am alive again, FUCK
>>37079974
Yes duh this is a gossip general look at my tiny waist.
>>37079983
Maybe. Will def update after I take pics in crop tops
>not even g4p
>>37079985
No worries. I get the same from high GI foods. Especially dextrose/maltodextrin.
>>37079974
I'm not a trip cocksucker. Its not a nutrition question. Shit is void of nutrition. You're asking if steroids will make you absorb shit. One of those steroids I might add is eq at 500. Who the fuck cycles eq? Maybe the reason you're ass is on fire is because you're shoveling garbage into your fat fucking gullet at 4000 calories a day cuntface. So do me a favor, if you aren't gonna at least post the types of foods you're eating, or give us some insight on your actual diet besides that your boipussy is on fire and that you're eating 4000 calories of a cock-based diet, at least go fuck your mother if you can find her. Tomorrow is mother's day after all.
>>37079999
Throwing in a little ephedrine helps if you're into that sort of shit. Btw nice fucking quads.
will a growth hormone make me taller? im 19. i have one readily available in front of me but am unsure if i should take it or not
>>37080019
>quads
Did u mean jerrbyfours
>>37080058
No. Also I don't think you have "a growth hormone" in front of you. Do some research.
>>37080019
i tried to get ephedrine but i am only 19. you need to be 21 to buy bronkaid apparently
>>37079946
The difference is levrone WAS a big dog. If Yates wasn't in the picture levrone would be slaughtering. Levrone had the freak size and the right waist. Delts that were second to none. He was considered one of the most genetically gifted people to ever grace the sport. A prime levrone COULD beat phil.
rhoden and dexter jackson are also getting up there in age. Both place well.
>>37080102
Levrone 51
Dexter 46
Rhoden 41
Ran out of needles. Put a syringe with test and tren up my bum.
Did I waste it? I mean.. its in me.. it didnt leak out.
>>37080102
It'll be years before he gets back to that. I don't see him beating phil any year from now until forever. Maybe prime kevin vs prime phil. Yeah I think kevin wins everytime. But we'll never see a prime kevin again, and phil isn't really even slowing down yet.
>>37080058
Manlets, when will they learn
I call one of my ex girlfriends baby still even in public and she hates it.
I forgot my tiny waist earlier.
>>37080197
Those nipple rings suck.
>>37080197
WTF A NIPPLE RING FUCKING KILL YOURSELF HOLY SHIT
>>37080334
>he didn't pierce his nipples
Fucking lame dogger
I will probably get barbells tho
>>37080197
>nipple ring
fuckboy
>>37080350
Try lifting one instead twink. Lose the nipple rings.
>>37080197
good lord... slay my hole, no homo
>>37078355
FAGS
Hey mates. I'm on TRT, doc has me on 100mg test C a week, but I inject every 6 days to eek a little more out of it and slightly more stable levels and I have a couple extra vials so no issue there yet. I wanna try my first blast. I'm thinking just about a little more than doubling what I'm doing now. But instead of messing with that script, would it be fine to add in another brand pharma test E. Pharma test C seems harder to find than E, and it works out to a little more Test than straight 225 test c every 6 days after graphing it.
This is completely safe, yeah? Ive read the half lives are 2 or 3 days different, but it seems like if I inject them on different dates my levels fluctuate wildly. Could I pin, for example, 125 test e and 100 test c in the same needle every 6 days with no real concern besides potential allergy or way to improve this without just adding more gear? And if it's fine, what size needles to make this as a combo of easiest/painless as possible? Ive been using 25 guage
>>37080366
Jerrbears
>>37080398
>>37080102
>>37079894
>>37079869
Guys, can I get some feedback pls. Then continue with your circle jerk
I've been working out natty for a year, on a PPL routine. I've made great progress and my goal is to achieve an aesthetic body. I'm nearly there, but I'm not sure if lifting another year will get me there.
Do I need to fraud to get aesthetics? Or is aesthetics a combination of genetics (height, face, frame).?
Last question, is this dude natty? I thinking he has god tier genetics https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4ZIfWQqJmg [Embed]
>>37080441
Stop meme'ing
You don't have to pin to be anything. Aesthetics are whatever you seem appropriate. I have crippling BD so pinning made sense; may not be the same for you.
A PPL is always a solid choice.
>>37080395
Its fine. Everything you said is A-ok man. If you want, you could pin 250 extra for more of an actual blast. Good luck
>>37080441
No one can answer either of those two questions objectively. We don't know what you could be a year from now. We don't know who you are, what you lift, what you look like, what you eat. And we don't know the same shit about the other guy.
so doing a full day of serious manual labor while on 600mg dnp sucks
completely fucking wiped out, can't even imagine how many calories I've burned
>>37080006
shit actually isn't void of nutrition, fwiw
but nigger needs to stop eating fucked up food and fix his guts instead of trying to pile on more drugs to solve his problems
>>37080496
psst >>37065192
>>37080441
He's got great genes, and he's on gear.
Also, it's all a matter of degree. You might have an aesthetic enough body to slay a dexent ammount of pretty girls, but is it enough to you? Can you be happy without being hotter and getting there faster? The only certainty is its extremely rare for a dude to only do one cycle and be satisfied even for a year. Your goals and body dysmorphia will dramatically increase after your first shot.
I'll say this tho. You could take a bunch of legal supplements like creatine and beta alanine and all that shit to maybe get 2 or 5% MAX more muscle out of your workouts. But you'd spend less money and potentially double or triple the gains you'll make at any time by going on gear than taking all that garbage.
>>37080496
Not trying to meme.... the height, face, frame shit has been really fucking with my head. I wish r9k would leave. Don't suffer from body dysmorphia but I won't lie, I lift for the bishs.
>>37080548
I guess, but that other guys delts don't pop. Looks like he has great insertions.
pic related, it's my body.
>>37080571
Oh cool duder ty
Responded to my ex with a few pics of me in crop tops asking if they were the one she was looking for.
>"did you cut those lol? That's s really good look on you..."
Lmao
>>37080594
You're fucking meming me kid.
>>37080594
You look better than me and you're natty don't even trip doggie
>>37080594
Just forget about the drugs man. Keep lifting. You gotta plenty of gains to make. You're only 18 months in. Don't let these fuckers convince you to blast and cruise the rest of your life.
>>37080594
Gear won't make your face prettier or less of a manlet. So if those are your issues, know that gear won't help. That pic makes me think you're trolling and consider it a compliment if youre not. You need to work on everything else if a body like that is still giving inadequate women as a result.
>>37080595
np
and you should be gone for the call out, either get a moment of self-realization or she fucks off and stops trying to game you and fuck with your emotions
>>37080578
Is he really though? Granted I know nothing about gear, but he doesn't have the telltale cannon ball delts. Just has solid insertions https://www.instagram.com/p/BDeXybbgd5x/?taken-by=connormurphyofficial
>>37080605
Thanks dude, I've always mirin you bb.
>>37080611
Alright man, this postive feedback really helped. I won't be hoping on.
Much love fraud and thank you!
>>37080639
growth hormone gives you a stronger jawline
>>37080641
How do you mean?
>>37080659
Thanks but that's a super solid build you have. I wouldn't hop on if I were you.
>>37080639
It's my face, I think. Height and frame are fine. But getting laid isn't a problem, keeping a girl is..... :(
>>37080594
How old are you? If you're over 25 you need to take a step back and figure out why you can't make life altering decisions by yourself like a fucking man. If under, Id spend at least another 6 months not only lifting but reading into steroids, what they do, what EACH (popular) one does, treatment options pros and cons of cycling and BnC. A couple opinions in this thread aren't enough to justify you making a decision right now.
>>37080676
Nah that's a personality thing.
Not saying it's bad, but that they def aren't feeling a click. Or you aren't destroying them in bed, making them crave you.
>>37080594
the 6 to 13 months progress doesn't even make sense
seems like you gained 20-30 pounds all (mostly) lean
mirin, guessing you're a manlet tho
>>37080679
22 y/o. I won't be hoping on. Definitely agree, just wanted some feedback, so thanks for that.
>>37080703
Nah, king of manelt. It's mostly lighting. Gained a little over 2lbs every month till the 13 month. Gaining 1.5lbs now, but I'm pretty sure half of that is fat, not lean like last year.
You know that feeling when you are starving, like how you are super weak and shakey? I'm on DNP and I am getting that constantly, even if I just ate.
The hunger is nothing, is there a way to get rid of this feeling?
>>37080779
You might be dying bro. That's a symptom of DNP overdose. Get in a tub of cold water and call for help. Make sure to not fall asleep. Even if you took a small dosage, your body may not handle it.
Building new PC for bro
Something manage to cut my knuckle whilst fucking around inside the case
What the fuck. How even?
>>37080779
>>37080847
there's a reason why DNP general threads stopped. Mods had to intervene. DNP is not to be fucked with. I'll never touch that shit.
After draining 23mls of tomato soup looking puss from an abscess and a course of antibiotics I think it may be time to see a doctor.
>>37080779
Just eat a small chocolate bar
Magic, the weakness is gone
>>37080883
Yeah that's fucked
>>37080883
nahhh
>>37080883
>not seeing a doctor as soon as you noticed the abscess
>>37080779
Yeah get on an EC stack asap.
If you don't know what to do, 25mg ephedrine + 200mg caffeine 2 twice a day 4 hours apart. Get all your work down within those 8 hours. Some people will say 3 times a day but I think that fucks with your sleep too much and DNP already wrecks your sleep so you need to recharge. Plus low tolerance.
>>37080902
I dont know mayne. It just started as pip. Never got a lump, sore, or anything like that. The knot just grew slowly over a few weeks before it got painful.
Other guy running the same test kept complaining about pip too so I thought it would clear up on its own.
>>37080883
pic of the abscess?
>>37080883
>>37080927
Clearly fucked oil
Screw that shit, throw it out and use something new
>>37080927
Fuck that shit bro. Bostin loyd is fine. You will be too.
Do exes always come back if you have big muscles and don't text them?
>>37080983
In my experience always
>>37080883
use more sites you dingus
>>37080983
>>37080990
Post pics of you x's pls. Need some fap material. Do a brother a favor.
>>37080932
Theres really nothing to show other than my leg is swollen and hurts like hell. Its knotted up deep inside the quad with a little bruising from the four times I pinned it to drain it.
>>37080951
Well Im obviously not still using the same gear lol.
>>37081007
I rotate delts and quads and I am/was only pinning twice a week anyways.
Lmao playing games as always
>okay so what's up? We both know you didn't text me over a shirt
>"I did though. Did you tear it off me?"
>no idea
>"okay thank you"
Fucking hard ball
>>37081073
Yo bimbo how big are ur arms atm. Aren't they over 20 " cold?
>>37081110
19.5"ish cold
I've gotten a 20" pumped read
> set tinder age search to 40-55+
> hitting up all these edgy girls with fake ages
> super liking the occasional MILF
>>37080990
It just seems so unlikely that she'd text me out of the blue.
>>37081009
I'll give you a pic from 10 years ago because you asked nicely.
Tfw grill never texted me back, now at the gym alone. What the fuck. Asks for my number and asks to work out, then never texts back.
>>37081128
They always do though. My ex just hit me up out of the blue today asking about a fucking shirt.
Last time it was s long winded apology about how she missed me.
It's always something to rope you back in. Fuck I feel terrible.
So when you go to the hospital with this type of shit should you just be honest about how it happened, play dumb, or say some bullshit about a botched B12 injection?
>>37080528
Thanks for the vote of confidence!
Plans might change, but I intend to do this ~260mg/wk test "blast" for 16-20 weeks. Go back to cruising where I'm at for around the same amount of time. Then double my test and blast again (now 2 vials) over 500mg for 16-20 weeks. Cruise, etc. Then try adding in 350mg/week NPP to Blast v2, instead of increasing the Test.
I'm being conservative and checking how my body reacts at every interval, complete with bloods and everything. That's why I'm starting off low. So far my plan seems like one that'll get my feet wet and get a good handle on potential side effects, AI dosing, etc. for the future.
>>37081169
Don't admit to gear use but they'll probably run blood tests. No telling if they'll check test or not. Just don't up to anything more than b12. That would be my play.
>>37081169
Say its from synthol.
>>37081177
Perfectly fine. You got your head on straight man. This is the healthy way to go about it.
>>37081179
I was gonna say b12 shots don't come in oil but what does it matter. Say whatever. Personally, I wouldn't say steroids either.
>>37081145
I supppose it's right. First gf was hitting me up every 6 months for 7 years. Even wrote poems about her love for me. I would've gone back but we broke up when she moved to Canada.
I should just go to fucking Canada.
>>37081169
You can say any bullshit you want, just don't admit to steroids. They'll know and they don't care.
>>37081136
Ive been working out with one of my employees. She's this hot 20 y/o with an amazing ass thats really into me. Pretty sure if I spend anymore time with her Im going to fuck her or at least try my best with my fucked up gimp leg. I should really stop hanging out with her but goddamn I cant help it nomsayin.
>>37081179
Im assuming theyre bound by some level of doctor patient confidentiality but its serious enough that I wanted treated correctly then again I dont trust those judgmental fucks either.
>No telling if they'll check test or not
Guy at work laughed at me and said its pretty obvious Im on steroids so I might as well cop to it kek.
>>37081215
He should probably just avoid having anything androgen related in his files for insurance purposes.
Medical staff at s hospital probably doesn't give enough fucks to delve deeper than "okay you fucked up s mysterious injection".
Dude women can be awful.
>>37081230
Don't. There won't be legal ramifications but your insurance premiums will be fucked if you can even get coverage.
>>37080927
You have worse issues at play. Go to a doctor.
>>37078553
I actually just started studying for ACE
I was at the gym yesterday, and this girl was ripped AF. So was her boyfriend (I assume_, guessing they both cycling or something.
Asked her long she was lifting, said one year. Fuarrk
going from weekly 525 tren a/350 test p to tren e/test e.
anyone know the equivalent dosage
>tfw your fuckbuddy browses /fraud/
>tfw she texts you saying don't worry about your ex
>tfw she says you can abuse me when I misbehave
>tfw she says I was this same girl years ago and she's fucking textbook
My fuckbuddy is a bro
What's the low androgenic/estrogenic oral AAS that is kindest to the liver and isn't Anavar?
>>37080890
nah even when I eat it doesn't go away. it is basically extreme weakness, like I can barely stand and walk. The first week I was fine, now I am fucked up.
I frontloaded too, so it's not just the blood concentration building up.
>>37081384
For what purpose?
>>37081381
How does one acquire a "fuckbuddy" I've had gfs, one night stands, and fucked random sloots. Is fuckbuddy basically a gf you broke up with but she still craves sex?
Every time I get a pump I feel like I'm cumming, cumming all over the gym.
>>37081413
depends
most are girls who are 'friends' who you fuck because it is easy/fun for both of you
gotta keep the hoes on a leash
>>37081415
Tfw ditched by gym date. But pump is epic, doing arms and chest instead of vagina and legs
>>37081413
No. The latter is my ex.
Fuckbuddy is someone who is fun to fuck and you can be friends with and you agree dating isn't right atm.
I guess? I'd probably actually date my fuckbuddy but what we have is super chill.
>>37081427
she left after she came or never came at all?
>>37081400
To jumpstart a cutting cycle
>>37081376
http://steroidgraph.com/about.html
Active Dose
>>37081415
lel, i think i did too much acid
acid best PWO
>>37081381
We get it. You fuck girls. Can we talk about something besides trips fucking?
>>37081433
Bitch asks for my number, says she wants to work out. Then never texts me back to set it up. Thinking she might be asleep tho. We did open today.
where do you guys buy steroids?
>>37081492
kek how much ug
have about 900 ug sitting on my nightstand just waiting for a nice oppurtunity, just haven't really found any cool occasions i want to use it for.
>>37081381
girls other than estp(supposedly) browse fraud?... wot y
>>37081566
Jerrbears so I'll answer. R/ steroid source talk
>>37081495
No stop asking
>>37081566
Shut the fuck up
>>37081581
my bad chief
>>37081551
Hate this feel. Yea, you need to set it up well in advance otherwise your shit is fked.
I had this girl give me all good vibes but then she doesn't come over. You what m8
>>37081571
idk, done a lot of trips ranging from 100-400
also 2c-E and hexen
technically, it's 1p-lsd but I hear it metabolizes to lsd
now I ask too many questions, stupid shit
hexen helps it a lot
>>37080679
>>37080771
If youre truly in it for the girls, then you don't need roids. you're already fine for just about any girl in the world.
if you're still having trouble, you should work on your personality. maybe you're just too shy/boring. consider moving abroad for a couple months, it helps wonders.
also, routine/diet/supplements?
>>37081593
Women.... Only good for fucktoys
>>37081593
On the plus side my old fucktoy sent me tons of nudes today and rubbed one out to my dick. So... Got that going
why there isnt a pastebin or something like this for newcomers
been lifting for 4 years and want to gear up now
>>37081852
Mods kept deleting thread with source info.
But general info there's too much.. Try reddit/ roids
>>37081630
>If youre truly in it for the girls, then you don't need roids
tfw i am low test and literally need roids
>>37081607
Interesting, how was 400? Thinking of trying that for my first time here soon, most I've ever done was probably around 200
Is it possible to switch from test prop while blasting to a long easter when cruising?
Is it ok if i start the longer easter(eg test e) after I'm done with my blast or should it be 1-2 weeks before I'm done?
>>37080927
Jesus Christ. Whose test?
Have you guys seen this:
>From Mr Average ... to superman
http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2008/may/18/healthandwellbeing.features1
Its some lefty journalist faggot writing the biggest load of bro science I have ever seen. In fact its such bullshit that I actually doubt he ever even took steroids.
>>37082565
>Using 21g for pin
>Using cc instead of ml
>Doesn't even say what the concentration is
>"came to possess real steroids - or 'gear', as we 'roiders call them."
>Muh sekrit klub
>Taking 1-4 pills of Nolvadex a day. A PCT
>Doubled the Nolva to probably 8 a day because of bitch tits
I can't be bothered to keep reading through this. I've not started taking yet, but I will be within the month.
What routine should I do for a first timer, cruising on 125mg test e e3d?
This one? http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/arnold-schwarzenegger-blueprint-trainer-day-1.html
>>37082709
Bearing in mind I've been lifting for 9-12 months.
>>37082709
unless you are naturally low test there is no reason to do 250mg a week
>>37082743
Except that you want to
>>37082749
you will be going barely above natty levels but risk fucking your natural production and having to rely on injections for the rest of your life.
very little benefit for the risk involved
>>37082749
What this guy said
>>37082765
>>37082765
>~1500ng/dl
>barely above average
>>37081049
You obviously ain't draining it right.
This needs to be done by a surgeon, if it's so deep.
Also, get on antibiotics ASAP. Azitromycin 500mg or sth like that.
>>37082789
did i use the word average retard? natural levels are ~300-1200
>>37082743
I am naturally low test. ~300ng/dl. But That's not the only reason I'm doing it.
And I keep getting different opinions on what I should take. I was told 250mg e3d is too much for cruising. Also, 125mg e3d is more than 250mg a week, it's averaging 291mg/week.
>>37082810
if you're low test then do at most 250mg a week, any more isn't good health wise.
if you're cruising on 250 just do an injection every 3/4 days, like monday and friday or something.
>>37082798
Most people sit around 400-600. I'm sorry tripling your test doesn't seem worth all the hassle on 2 injections a week
>>37082819
>if you're low test then do at most 250mg a week
to cruise i mean. blasting is different, but generally under 500mg test a week is pointless to "blast", and over 250mg a week to cruise is unhealthy
If I want to see how well my Test E is working, how long after I start pinning should I take my second blood test?
>>37082867
4 weeks
>>37082899
Right. I'm gonna be doing full bloodwork before I start, should I do full bloods every time?
>>37082908
Do bloods after a blast if you think you need to check health markers
No reason to test your test unless you're switching to a questionable lab and need verification.
>>37082793
He's already on antibiotics
I'm curious though what kind of damage a large abcess can cause
I imagine having a huge hole right in the middle of a muscle would have some kind of long term effects right?
>>37082930
I'm homebrewing. I want to make sure it's good, both for myself, and if I decide to share in the future.
So just test levels after 4 weeks cruising, yeah?
>>37082823
Your newfaggotry is showing
Test levels of high natty or slightly above provide no advantage to gains over average natty levels
My natty test is 786ng/dl and I did a full 16 week "blast" if 250 test
Know what happened? Jack shit
It was the same goddamn shit as natty, except I had a bit more energy
Stop spouting your bullshit guesstimates as facts
>>37082953
Yeah that's fine, to verify you didn't get bunk/underdosed raws. No need to test regularly since you're the one brewing and all
Takes 4 weeks for concentration levels to peak with enanthate
>>37082966
>
500-800 is no real difference
500-1500 is going to be significant. Brick is a fine example of cruise doses benefiting gains. I'm not the retard who wanted to blast 250 though, that's all you.
>>37082983
>500-800
>500-1500
Are we pulling numbers our our ass and calling it an argument now?
I blasted 250 because I wanted to put and end to the bullshit claims retards like you make every single day
You scared little faggots are just as bad as the SARMS guys
If you're too pussy to use gear properly go buy a tub of creatine for fuck sake
>>37082933
It can create a flegmona, which might be a good enough reason to amuputate.
Or the flegmona can cause sepsis, which might be a good enough reason to die.
Also yeah, huge hole right in the muscle is probably something, that's already happened. It generally doesn't cause any issues at all, if it heals well. Which it usually does.
on tren and test, have too high rbc and getting symptoms which of the worst is easy bruising
what do?
>>37082709
bumping my original question about routine
I get that I should do one with lots more volume, but I'm not sure which is the best.
>>37083018
Donate blood
>>37083147
https://www.t-nation.com/training/serge-nubret-pump-training
Will mast make the tren sides less noticible?
had minor dick issues on my last tren run, not 100% hard, but could fuck.
would proviron keep it functional? i cant find caber anywhere.
>>37083018
go off forever, if you are too stupid to use google you should not use any of these hormones
>>37080779
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypoglycemia
whoda thunk it
>>37083315
Proviron will increase libido not fix your dead dick
If you can find tren you can find caber
>>37083426
ive asked 3 different sources where i live and none of these fuckers ever even heard of it.
i aint ordering online fuck that, guess im screwed
>>37083419
>tfw dnp rash
When it leaves one body part it appears one another
I am 100% getting a stringer mad that say
>eat clen tren hard
Then wearing that fucker every day to the gym
Rustle some jimmies
>>37083459
antihistamines or just deal with it
they usually go away p quickly once you come off
>>37083446
>buying gear in person
Enjoy your overpriced gear and lack of ancillaries I guess
>>37083489
thanks senpai, 100usd for a vial of test is ok :)
>>37083419
yeah this is it, how the fuck do i prevent this? what's a good food to eat to prevent this? whenever I eat fruit it goes away for an hour or two but then comes back.
i've been sticking with it for a few weeks now but today I "binged" and only managed a 1100 deficit instead of 1700 because it's getting worse.
>>37083525
Jesus dude, I used to pay the same price here in Aus
You shouldn't be paying more than $30-$40 a vial
>>37083461
Doing that in your current town will get you arrested, jus' saying.
>>37083532
theres basically no way to keep your blood sugar levels high on DNP, thats kind of the point
you can either:
1. deal with it, like most people do
2. get stimmed out of your skull
3. go keto, will probably suck balls in the beginning and i havent tried it myself but it should work in theory and ive heard anecdotes that it does
>>37083583
i was merely pretending.
im paying 40 for test 50 for tren
adex is 35usd for 30mg
im ok with these prices.
a bit high but im not poor so its cool
>>37083612
how do you know that the oils contain what your dealer says they do? the biggest thing about ordering online is the accountability
>>37083525
>>37083583
Agreed
If 70-110 is the norm in Aus you shouldn't be paying that much in the US
>>37083585
nah doubt it
You can't be arrested for wearing a shirt
Besides I'm natty right now anyway
>>37083017
Hey Janos, is your Business already official with fancy Lab result sheets and stuff?
Also whats your rate again for Test e and tren e.testing?
>>37083640
blood tests, i buy off a proffessional bodybuilder i know personally.
>>37083657
>Janos
He's jano, his leddit account is janoshik
>>37083670
you must have access to a really dope lab if you can test tren concentrations in your blood
seriously tho, hes just buying the shit online and selling it to you at a higher price
to each their own tho i guess
>>37083598
that's weird though because i am only doing 250mg this time. i have done up to 750mg in the past and it didn't ever happen before.
oh well fuck it i'll just suck it up and deal with it for a few more weeks
feels good to be back on the tren train faggots
>>37083683
obviously i cant test the tren, but i know its legit just from the sides.
i dont mind paying an extra 5-10 usd if that means not ordering it
>>37083742
how much do you pay for a vial of test? be honest
>>37083764
about 40 usd / 30 euros
>>37082669
I used 21g for my first cycle.
Was like sticking a scaffolding pole in your leg.
>>37083837
I've been pinning quads delts and VG for a few weeks with 20g, barely feel it
>10 pm
>only eaten 1200cals
Well boys, looks like today's a 3 large pizza day
hey /fit/, a friend has recently acquired 50x 50mg of stanozolol
hypothetically what would be the effects/side effects of taking one daily for 50 days?
would it be generally safe?
would there be significant risk of gynecomastia?
would he experience an increase in gains provided he worked out extremely hard and ate like crazy?
would there be a significant risk of him inflicting permanent damage upon himself?
>>37083983
>50x 50mg of stanozolol
forgot to mention, it's in pill form
>>37083983
>hypothetically what would be the effects/side effects of taking one daily for 50 days?
effects:
gains
(possible) side effects:
sore joints, broken dick, acne, balding, shutdown of natural testosterone production
>would it be generally safe?
depends on what you consider safe
>would there be significant risk of gynecomastia?
no
>would he experience an increase in gains provided he worked out extremely hard and ate like crazy?
yes
>would there be a significant risk of him inflicting permanent damage upon himself?
yes
>>37083917
thats what she said
>>37084010
thanks for the reply
with regards to the possible side effects, would they go away after he stopped taking it?
Wow that was a train wreck of a night.
Doggos you guys are cool. What's your favorite anabolic and why? I'd go toss up between eq or npp. Eq is so consistent in terms of expected results, but when npp is on point it's fire. You tweak carbs and sodium just right on npp and that thickness game is legit.
>>37083302
bump
also we have been talking a bit about test tren ratio lately, what is the consensus?
>>37084054
other than balding yeah, could take a while after he stops tho
i also forgot: liver damage is a very real risk with orals
>>37084060
i really liked the results i got from adrol, im on sdrol now and its comparable but without the same sensations of my face exploding
the thing about the sdrol is that the lethargy comes on much faster which is annoying af
tren is also gr8 obviously
feeling like trying eq for my next slow bulk blast, what dosage would you recommend? going for like 0.5-1 lb of weight gain/week for ~20 weeks or so
>>37084054
Winstrol is the single worst oral to try and bulk on
It fucks your joints to hell
Its a very unpleasant drug in general
>>37084108
There is no consensus its down to your rbodues response and personal preference
>>37080883
Jesus wtf. Why don't you have antibiotics on hand. Antibiotics are just as important to have on hand as an AI or caber or some other accessory drug. You can literally get like 50 100mg doxycycline pills for like $20 online.
>>37084112
Eq shines for at 800-1200mg. I've done 1500mg but it didn't seem any more potent than 1200mg.
800 is s nice sweet spot for consistent gains, and that eq vascularity without the anxiety. I never got panic attacks like some duders, but there's def a mild sense of discomfort that looms at over a gram.
Sdrol makes me go hypo way too often do I'll only use it as preworkout, when I know I'll be eating fast acting carbs.
>>37084187
He means he used up the antibiotics you retard
You can't keep using them or you become tolerant
L2readingcomprehension
>>37084193
i p much never ever go hypo, idk why
ill probably do 500 mg test 800 mg eq 50 mg drol 4 weeks on 4 weeks off or 20 mg sdrol 3 weeks on 4 weeks off or something
if i take 40mg dbol a day for 4 weeks, will i survive with basic liver supplements?
i can only get tudca if i order it online.
>>37084221
Just do 50mg Adrol preworkout consistently for the blast; run 250mg Tudca alongside if you're worried but 50mg adrol is hardly toxic and a great preworkout.
Finally finished the semester
Now I can finally fly home and get shredded again yeee
Fuaark I loved being this lean, I have more lean mass now so it should turn out a bit better.
Yolo cut cycle. Currently 200lbs 5'10" 12%
100mcg mod-grf1-29 100mcg ipam 5x daily
2iu greytops gh 2x daily
500mg test/tren/mast
200mcg t4
500mg DNP
Am fasted cardio
Low carb. Intermittent fasting. ~1500 cal
>>37084257
yeah thats a good idea actually, thanks m8
So I found a new Flat.
They advertised it for 500€ rent + 3000€ furniture Transfer.
Now in my signed contract it is listed as an empty Apartment without furniture.
I guess I don't have to pay 3000€
Already consulted an attorney about that. Law is on my side.
Guess I Invest in some raws then
