Be honest, has lifting helped you get girls?
Whether it's in real life, or on tinder/whatever. Has getting /fit/ increased your success with the opposite sex?
>>37061432
lifting gave me confidence, confidence got me dates
The benefits from a psychological shift have far outweighed the benefits from any physical changes in my appearance.
>>37061432
I am in cocoon mode and havent tried to date a girl once.
But i've got a lot of matches on tinder and i often see girls mirin me, which has never happened to me before.
I think i should be ready to hit the clubs and get laid in autaumn this year.
Just a few things that i still need work on...
What those anons said about the confidence aspect. I have gotten a couple compliments though even though I'm DYEL mode. Old girlfriend mentioned my muscle when I ran into her, friend's cousin was drunk and talked about my arms and shoulders, and I got hit on by a gay black guy at the store.
Recovering autist here.
I called a girl cutie on tinder, then in her reply she reffered to me as "dude"
i just got friendzoned right?
Not really to be honest.
But I feel better about myself and my back pains are gone. So it's still good.
>>37061445
>>37061464
These.
Before lifting I was a skinny quiet porn addicted kid with absolutely no confidence. Now I am a /fit/ nationalist and my confidence is rising
>>37061519
Maybe. You shouldn't have called her cutie. girls on tinder don't need compliments, every match she has thinks she's "cute" she already knows that. You gotta stand out
>>37061537
>skinny
Enjoying hitting the natty limit within 4 years you permaskel
>>37061537
plan b it is then: autism speaks mode. i'll sure as hell stand out.
>>37061432
Yes it has. Most of the compliments i get from girls are about my body.
To be fair, lifting would probably be pretty useless looks wise if
1) you're pasty white
2) Shit face
3) Shit haircut
4) Can't dress yourself nicely
>>37061604
>youre pasty white
You mean if youre not white
>>37061604
1) normal color
2)shit face
3) good haircut
4)dress really good
3/4 points checked, can i still make it?
>>37061556
Not only is your post incorrect, but you also seem to think that's a bad thing.
If I hit this in only 4 years I'd be happy as hell
>>37061432
It does help with confidence to be fit but you shouldn't be lifting for girls. They're the ultimate gains goblins.
You should know this, OP
>>37061432
Yes, by giving me more attention
However it hasn't given me social competence, that has come from other areas
>>37061624
I'm talking about the "sickly" looking pasty white. As in, the type of neckbeard who's skin hasn't even touched sunlight.
>>37061629
Depends, what's wrong with your face? I have a friend who's 6'2, dresses really good, tan skin, even dances really good, but his face makes him get absolutely 0 pussy.
>>37061683
>but his face makes him get absolutely 0 pussy
I've seen some ugly fit fucks get pussy
Your friend is not even trying, mane
>>37061654
That's what you think. Lift for a couple of years and the body dysmorphia will eat you alive. In 4 years you'll think that kid in the picture is dyel.
>>37061432
No,but it will,once I stop being skinny fat and get all buff,all the ladies will like me right?
>>37061709
There's a ton of other factors ofc, but generally trying to get pussy with a face not even a mum could love is hard mode as fuck.
My ex hit me up because she liked my body.
>be me in 2008
>shirtless profile pic on myspace
>kid who I barely know messages me
>"hey my sis thnks ur hawt, msg her?"
>didn't even know he has a sister
>she's 2 years older
>date for 2 years, lose V card 2 months in
>fuck like bunnies, literally twice a day four days a week
>find out she's been cheating like literally the entire time
>most Red pilling experience I've ever had in my life
The women who want you strictly for your body are not the kind of women you want Inothing your life pal
>>37061629
It's
HEIGHT
FACE
FRAME
anon. You can miss 1, maybe, if you're rich as fuck. You already said your face is busted, so I hope you're tall with pockets also on swole.
>>37061683
I dont have any deformity if you mean that.
The thing that sucks about my face is my resting jerk face and my basement dwelling eyes, meaning they always look super tired and "pissed off". And i dont mean "cute" and tired, i mean actually fucking tired. I look like a mug unless i try really hard to look friendly.
I cant even buzz my head anymore because then i actually look like i rob people on a daily basis.
Basically 4-5/10, 6 if i tryhard.
One thing i NEED to know is, is your 6'2" friend DYEL or asthetic/jacked?
Note that i dont consider ottermode jacked and asthetic.
>>37061748
I'm past that phase. I'm realistic- you won't get bigger than the so long as you stay natty
>>37061792
>shirtless profile pic on myspace
That's some douchebag tier shit
>>37061432
I fucked a azn qt3.14, a model, and several other women falling somewhere in between all after getting /fit/. I wasn't an autist prior though just a bit socially retarded
>>37061859
It was 2008 dude I was a high school jock retard, I cringe about it to this day. The upside to the story though
>qt.14 wife
>doesn't give a fuck what I look like
>have tons of similar interests and our families go to the same church
>taught her to squat bench and deadlift
>4'11 for maximum rag doll sex
>>37061839
You won't want to stay natty forever. Trust me on this, I've been lifting for 8 years, and I'm about to hand in my natty card.
>>37061859
hahahaha
y-yeah
>>37061810
nice meme, but im poor as fuck and only 5'11" (so rather average, not tall).
Yeah just end it already.
>girl that i'm making out with starts grabbing my ass and compliments it
>as this is happening, her friend walks past and slaps my ass
Thanks Rippletoe
>>37061432
nope
being a neet the past 10 years still offers no opportunities to meet women unless im grocery shopping
>>37061537
>now i'm a /fit/ nationalist and i don't need to live in my extremely handsome brothers shadow anymore
>>37061902
Not gonna lie
I tried to do the same on Facebook once I got fit
I guess the Chad mentality comes along with the muscles
>>37061432
My confidence has certainly gone up and it shows in my interactions with all people.
Not pursuing a relationship though, I really don't think I have the mental health for it, that or I just need to keep working on getting myself together first.
>>37061432
Oh heavens, no. I'm too much of an awkward sperg to get girls, jacked or no.
>>37061748
body dismorphia? what
>>37061432
Nope. It's all about charisma and having an interesting personality...Which means you will all die virgins.
>>37061654
i swear i'm not into guys but i would fuck the shit out of him if given the chance familia
>>37061902
arent you afraid of manlet children
>>37062016
This is a latsbrah reference right?
>>37061432
Yes. I already had somewhat decent success with girls due to good financial standing, condo, cars, etc, but getting /fit/ greatly improved the quality of girls, and increased confidence allowed me to pursue girls I used to consider well above my league.
The downside, I got too redpilled and have hard time committing/settling down, and because I have a long way to go before I get as /fit/ as I plan, I can't shake off the thought that I could do bette once I get there.
>>37062385
Nah brah I'm probably good I'm 6'3 from a tall family and she's from a tall family as well, she's an anomalie
>>37061917
Tom Hardy is that you?
>>37061432
Yes
>>37061432
Yes. I've always been able to get girls, because I'm not afraid to look like a douche (aka a guy other guys hate for doing things girls like better than them).
I have a meme haircut, I dress like a hipster, I have a light beard, and I'm also ripped. On top of that I have a few hobbies that girls find attractive (I read, I've memorized some poetry, I drive a rally car). Girls have always liked me. Since I've gotten fit, I've attracted a new segment of the female population.
Yes. Used to be a fat turd with great social skills.
Now I'm moderately fit with even more confidence. Hung out with an old high school friend a week or so ago and she was all over me like shit through a goose.
We're all gonna make it.
I hate myself less and I can finally imagine that women could possible like me. It's nice to stand in front of a mirror and think, "This is a definite improvement from how I used to look. Progress has occurred."
Once I got over that hurdle, I met a cosmetologist MILF, quickly got the "I just want to be friends" line, but with persistence, a bottle of wine, & a couple of gabapentin, I escaped the dreaded friendzone. Weirdly, I wanted a relationship, and she wanted it to be purely a fuckbuddy situation. Disappointed, but she showed me how to dress better and convinced me to grow out my hair and cut it so it looks great. Suddenly, confidence, charisma, it all starts coming naturally.
I completely realized that I got ridiculously lucky to find this insane woman. Your results may vary.
>>37061432
yeah, i was not even dyel, had a little fat over my stomach and got compliments on my body (before and after sex) form like 14 girls when i was single.
but is not only my body, i have a big and beatiful smile, a haircut that fits my facial format, a good game and i'm a real good person to be with.
>>37061445
this
I recently had some success on tinder. Literally matched with a 9/10 and also a few cars honked at me when I was cycling home. I'm just a dyel, but when I was a skelly people quite literally looked through me.
>>37062824
how do you even fuck her?it would feel like fucking a child
>>37061432
no
but I enjoy it and I look a lot better so I keep doing it.
>>37063433
Not him, but similar situation. It feels like fucking a short woman, dipshit.
>>37061683
Is your 6'2" freind dyel or jacked?
tellle mmmeeeeeeeeeee
>>37061432
before getting /fit/
>virgin who has kissed some girls while drunk
after getting /fit/
>fucked 2 fat chicks who couldn't do any better about 6 months apart (both after several tries because, as I would later find out, I have chronic porn/masturbation addiction induced ED and can only maintain a penetration tier erection for a few seconds, making sex very difficult)
>both became obsessed with me and I was too beta to break it off so I just kept seeing them until they realised I wasnt Chad and stopped messaging me
>still get occasional messages when theyre reminded they still can't do better but nothing really ever comes of it
Feelsgood
>>37061482
As long as you re weird, having a hot body means shit man. If you are not a social person in general, just try to talk to "everyone". Try to make friends, make small talk etc. You and a girl arent just gonna say hi and go home to fuck. You gotta stay cool and get her comfortable and not spill all dem sphagettis meanwhile.
>>37063433
That's the point
>did SS+TM
>cut
>finally got a gf
>don't really want a gf
not sure how to feel
I just want a fwb
fuck dating, girls are a waste of time and energy
before /fit/
>super antisocial nerd, cant even hang out with vidya bro's without making screencap worthy greentext stories
after /fit/
>know a lot about lifting exercises, lifting and general health
>still super antisocial, spending weekends drinking alone, listening to music and browsing imageboards
it's kinda double hard if none of your hobbies include female humans
>>37063678
hello me
getting fit hasnt done anything for me socially, maybe im just oblivious to the signs girls are interested in
I just want to get really fit, fuck being average
>>37063678
> after /fit/
That only counts if you are actually asthetic, jacked and shredded.
Lifting alone doesnt do shit, its about the body mate.
And no, ottermode is not "making it" nore is it asthetic.
Im talking about actually being kinda heavy and jacked.
All the people who stay autistic after lifting is because they still look shit.
>>37063627
iktfb
I enjoy being alone too much to have a gf. I'm so tired of having to meet my daily text message quota to stop her from getting insecure and accusing me of avoiding her. I'm so tired of pretending I'm not a weeaboo.
It gets better, but the struggle never really ends.
>>37063694
>get into a helpdesk job after highschool ends
>system house so a lot of our customers are doctors offices with tons of female assistances or however mericans call them
>none are ever interested in me
>they're just happy they get their printer back quickly
>they dont even care that i carry the fucking thing alone
the manual says minimum 3 people
>>37063730
my problem is im kinda bitter after years of being ignored cause I was fat
so I dont even flirt/stare at girls, I tend to ignore them
meh, I just want to get shredded and it isnt for girls. girls wont make you happy, you have to be happy with yourself.
>>37063749
> you have to be happy with yourself.
i mean i am happy with myself, atleast when im drunk. It's just that my dad said that our neighbour talked about a coworker who died of heart attack at 64 with no preliminary signs of it and i noticed he hinted at him expecting me to deliver grandchildren within the next couple years
im only 22 years old and have never had a girlfriend and none of my activities include female people what the fuck
>>37061432
My story as a 40 year old.
>swimmer and football player in HS. 6 foot, 150 lbs. Never a problem getting dates.
>Graduate and settle in with the girl I was dating when I graduated HS. No college at the time. I landed a job at a factory, and was quickly promoted to supervisor.
>start getting fat dumb and happy.
>close to 300 lbs at age 23 when the relationship hit the rocks.
>decide my life needs to change after we break up.
>Diet hard and start hitting the gym again.
>get back down to around 200 and starting to look and feel good. Decide to go back and get a degree at a community college.
>Looking good enough and confident enough that I start bagging college girls left and right.
>settle down with one of them at age 26 after graduation.
>eventually get fat dumb and happy again. Close to 250 again by age 35.
>Split with the college cutie and settled down with an overweight bar slut about 5 years ago.
>39 I decide to get back into shape.
>at 40 now, and bar chick gets into legit brawls because women are starting to come onto me again.
I know that every time I got fat, it was my fault. I offer the above story to point out, that yes, when I was fit, I pulled decent girls. Things turned to shit every time I let myself go. Now my bar slut is motivated to get into shape as well. If she does, I'll stick with her. She's not bad company, but I'm not going to beat away hotter chicks with a stick for her.
tl;dr: greentexted anecdotal evidence of lifting getting you girls.
>>37063606
>tfw womanlets won't call you "daddy" in bed
>>37062968
you have literally become a living breathing meme
I'm proud of you.
>>37063824
I seek out girls with daddy issues. Never been a problem.
Nope. I'm an autist and I'm losing hope I'll ever achieve anything. People my age already have kids and I've never even had a girlfriend. I'm starting to feel like I've fallen too low to get back up at some point
>>37063824
She's got a woman's body, just scaled down to womanlet size
>>37063919
>marrying a dwarf
>>37061792
>>"hey my sis thnks ur hawt, msg her?"
what a cuck
>>37063928
Petite <> dwarfism
But I'd bang a dwarf too.
For a post sex workout, dwarf tossing.
>>37063945
look at her proportions though. Her legs are so short because her torso can't get any shorter to hold all the organs.
>>37061432
>be loser
>drink at a party
>confidence
>aqcuire gf
>once I break the ice I have no problem talking to them like regular humans, so I only needed to drink that night
>break up after two years
>confidence plummets
>lift and learn salsa in the meantime
>confidence higher than ever
>hit on legit Aryan 10/10 stuff of my dreams
>success
>break up after 6 months
>confidence reaches negative value, I legit could not get out of the bed for 2 weeks, as if I was sick with a fever and exhausted from strenuous manual labor
>life goes on, right now I am continuing my studies and lifting, want a gf but don't have the energy to "go out there and meet one"
Morals of my story/answers to your question:
1) yes, lifting does give you confidence
2) if you haven't been hardened enough, you will shatter easily (so 1) may be moot)
3) if you aim high, be prepared for a bad fall (but still, do aim high)
4) don't shit where you eat, unless you like eating shit (she frequents the same places I do, so I am forced to see her every week)
>>37063936
That was obviously her being too embarrassed to tell him herself or playing some kind of game so she could feign disinterest.
>>37063975
>like regular humans
you're way too deep man, autism has fully consumed you, i suggest becoming a pianist or chess master
>>37064013
"them" only refers to girls I want to hit on, not every single female. It is logical to be nervous when you feel judged, like someone is expecting something of you, like when you have to pass the test of "make this girl like me".
I am pretty certain I am making things worse for me by talking in that way, but that's not how I feel, it's how it is. It's the same whenever you meet a girl. You judge her appearance and way she talks, and if she ticks all the right boxes, you proceed to do your thing (making out, asking her out, whatever).
Not being nervous means either rejection doesn't affect you, or that you have studied a lot and acquired a lot of experience for the "test"
Although I'm sure I could use other words to sound less autistic.
By the way, give me a break. That was like 3 years ago. I am slightly better now.
No. It made them more nervous around me, or at least that's what I like to think.
No. They assume I'm gay because I take care of myself.
Nope. My social skills arent even that bad, i can easily make friends with new people inluding girls. But i have zero idea how to escalate from there or get them into bed. The whole concept is beyond me
>>37064124
>if she ticks all the right boxes, you proceed to do your thing
>implying people have standards
>>37064156
You should, anon. No amount of virginity or dry spell warrants fucking crazy, fat, slut or whatever else would normally be a turn off
>>37064227
Sure it does. get your rocks off, and move on. You'll be less fixated on finding the "perfect" girl. Oneitis is a bitch.
>>37064227
But I like crazy
>>37064277
>Sure it does. get your rocks off, and move on. You'll be less fixated on finding the "perfect" girl. Oneitis is a bitch.
The bane of my existence. How do i become more insensitive against girls? I would very much like to bone and dump. It is unhealthy to become attached and feel feels over every girl I "do something" with.
>dyel friend who does nothing but do speed all day has a gf
>I can't even get one after lifting for over a year
Why is life so unfair? I just want the loneliness to go away
>>37064406
>does speed all day
don't worry, he will be dead soon enough
>>37064227
I'd fuck them, but I personally have made a promise to not spend any fucking money on ugly girls. Wasted too much going on dates and falling for the "maybe they've got a cool personality" meme.
>>37064440
At least he's not alone. I wouldn't mind dying if it meant a few months with someone I enjoy
>>37064464
Seriously? The only thing I really miss about having a gf is regular sex. Other than that I'm better off alone.
>>37064362
Honestly, lower your standards a bit. Don't bang people you aren't attracted to, but you don't have to love their personality or anything for a hookup. Consider the hookups as "practice" girls. But my advice is don't shit where you eat. Pick up the girls you'll settle for at one place, and meet the girls you actually want to be around somewhere else completely. Never let the ones you're serious about know how many people you've fucked.
Be safe. an STD or a child will ruin the future. Practice girls tend to know that they aren't 10/10 bitches, so some of them are more than happy to get knocked up if they feel it will land them an attractive man.
>>37064464
speed
gf
how can people get an erection on speed?
>>37064480
I've been alone all my life. I would give anything to know love at least once. I can't even remember the last time I got a hug.
>>37064537
I do remember her complaining he was a boring fuck
>>37064495
>Honestly, lower your standards a bit.
My standards for a gf right now are:
>not fat
>not ugly
>not crazy
>not a slut
>not bitchy and naggy
>some things of common interest so that we can have a conversation
>wants sex more often than once a week
>wants cuddles and hugs at night
>smells nice
I don't think I have high standards. Do I?
>don't shit where you eat
M8 that's literally what I said to that other anon like 10 posts above
>practice
But that's the whole point
How do I into practice
I have to feel at least a bit of emotional attachment to make a move on a girl
How do I become more insensitive
Fuck, I'm 24 and I'm talking like I am 16
>>37064572
>hug
come on now, you are better than that. You don't miss much. First few months is cool, and then the drama begins and it lasts until one of you mans up and breaks up. Even sex starts being boring and mechanical.
Being single is great, but you need some friends and be able to get an ons/lover once so you don't go crazy.
>>37064601
It's about developing a "no fucks given" attitude. Realize you don't need an emotional connection to have sex. Sex is just a fun thing to do. Girls enjoy it too. Many are also looking for an uncomplicated fuck. Find them.
>>37064633
>How do thing?
>Do thing.
Thanks Yoda.
>>37064601
>I don't think I have high standards. Do I?
>not bitchy and naggy
this is the only hard part desu
>>37064633
Women are complete slaves to their biology. We act like they are so unpredictable but they arent. They are predictable as fuck if you realize theyre just mediators of evolution.
>>37064621
I dropped out of high school due to depression and isolated myself for like 5 years after that. I'm probably already crazy. The only friend I made in that time is this guy, and he's not much since he's always on speed anyway. I feel like I'm beyond desperate at this point. I'd tear my other arm off for a hug at this point
Im not strong or big by /fit/ standards but the answer is categorically yes.
>>37064653
Isn't that what we tell you about everything?
How do I get strong? Do the strong things.
You'll suck at it. That's why it's called training.
AThe biggest problem with this generation (yes I'm old) is that people are afraid to fail. Just go do the thing you want to do. Fail at it. Learn from the failure, and fail less next time.
I laid it out. Go to places where you will pull girls. If you are mildly fit, go to a townie bar. Bitches will come onto you. Fuck the ones you're okay with. As you confidence builds, go to better places.
When you're ready for the one, go to where you'll meet her. I don't care if it's a festival, a convention, the library, or whatever. Hell. go to those places now. try to meet her. You can always stop banging sluts when you meet her.
>>37061432
Eurofag here
Honestly, it hasn't helped a bit. If anything, my chances are lower with girls today than before. I've been with well over a hundred girls in my life (no epenis, the truth), most of them when I lived in Buenos Aires and Rio and worked at the Pub Crawl there. I was a skinny 21yo party faggot, but dressed well and had game. Now I snatch 220 but have grown more introverted and fuck maybe 2 girls a month.
Girls in my social class (students, artsy people, VICE-readers...) fucking HATE muscle, they think it's for primitive plebs. They'd much rather go for the skinnyfat poet type.
>mfw every girl I asked has told me having a (muscular) naked upper body pic anywhere on social media is an instant dealbreaker for them
>>37064692
Your main problem is that you are so desperate about it.
Even if you get that hug you crave so much, nothing will really change. You will still feel as empty as you feel right now, because you lack purpose. And it's OK and pretty common, but don't let it stop you from enjoying yourself.
Contemplating your misery is not helping, it's making you more miserable. Start going out, talking to strangers. Sometimes something will stick. And if it doesn't, at least you will cure your social anxiety. And then the chance of something sticking will increase.
Find a hobby, start doing something that takes your mind away from thinking about feeling bad.
I'd give you a hug, but I'm far away and a guy. No homo though.
>>37064764
>having a (muscular) naked upper body pic anywhere on social media
I'm inclined to agree. Having muscle is attractive, flaunting it isn't (unless in a very appropriate setting like a family photo at the water park or something.)
If you're actually fit, people know without you having to use overtly tight clothing or gym mirror flexing pics.
>>37064764
Hide your power levels. Wear shit that doesn't show it off, and watch them melt after they realize you don't fit the stereotype and are still fit as fuck.
>>37064811
Yep. That's what I'm trying to say in >>37064816
If you're showing it off, they think it's the only attractive quality you can share.
>>37064764
>fuck maybe 2 girls a month
>implying it's bad when people here are struggling with virginity
>>37061432
yes
100%
go fuck yourself
>>37061432
>yesterday
>walking by a starbucks
>grills start to turn their heads
>they are looking me
>anxiety starts
Now i have to deal with my anxiety problems, lots of friends say i have changed a lot and now im good looking, but i still think they are making fun of me
>>37064764
You fucked up, guy.
Those girls are actually attracted to you but are too far up their asses to admit it. It's egotism and pride that drives them to lie about being attracted to fit and muscular men. They bought into the leftist rhetoric that puts them on a pedestal. Your muscular body invalidates that rhetoric along with making them girls feel incredibly insecure about themselves, something the rhetoric says shouldn't happen. The girls are too prideful to admit it so they date men who also buy into that very same rhetoric and makes the girls feel good about themselves because the guys look like shit compared to the girls.
It is completely analogous to the "Dad bod" and why certain girls "prefer" it. Keep lifting guy, you'll find a cutie-pie keeper soon enough.
>>37064808
Thanks for all the kind words. I appreciate it. I definitely agree with you, I have literally no purpose in life right now. I like to think lifting is enough but it really isn't. I need to find something else
>>37065012
Most of us don't. Some are just so into their jobs and the every day grind that they don't think about it. But those people aren't really alive.
>>37064669
This.
It also helps that they're pretty much a hive mind.
>>37061519
you can't get friendzoned on Tinder. autist.
>>37061432
Lifting helped me get the confidence to approach women, I got rejected a lot less.
The intensity of the female gaze which I attract has intensified
>>37063627
perhaps you want a fellow tyrannosaur
>2016
>not wanting a terrible lizard qt3.14 to go on pedallos with
>>37063569
bad advice seriously.
you can absolutely say hi, and go home and fuck. It is just that easy in todays world, I've odne it many of times, and I'm not even /fit/
At this point I don't even believe this "women are straight" and "women enjoy sex" nonsense.
The more I improve my appearance the less women even notice me.
I don't want to commit suicide but I wish I could just get killed randomly.
>>37064933
>tfw women claim to not like guys who lift
>tfw they also claim to prefer chubby guys
Literally just egoism and "I'm special".
I'm pretty DYEL by /fit/ standards, but I've lost nearly 70lbs so far and still working at it.
Got this message today through my university's network and I'm not sure what to do. Been a beta for way too long senpai
>>37065557
Not many good pics and I've literally spoken to her like twice in the classroom setting.
All I know about her is that she plays rugby, so at least that's in the /fit/ direction.
She's pretty damn thick though, but give it to me straight fellas, how's the face?
>>37065629
I've banged many Rugby chicks. For some reason they all waitressed at a pizza pub I used to cook at. They are awesome. Thick but strong, and fun attitudes. Go for it.
>>37065629
The face looks definetely good.
She looks kinda chubby though.
>>37065806
High test, my nigga. Imagine all those gains by the test boost of just looking at them flabs, bby.
>>37063709
This. Everyone who says after getting shredded and still a NEET is not shredded nor aesthetic. It is almost impossible not to feel happy or confident after having a body of a greek God looking right back at you in the mirror knowing you achieved that through your own will.
>>37065806
hey well so am I right now, so I probably don't have much room to choose lol.
>>37065859
Can confirm she has a big ass and DD+ tits even though she dresses modestly, so that's probably a good sign famalam
>>37062198
Everyone forgets what actually looks good in the end and just keeps getting bigger, because size is the easiest objective measure of improvement.
>talking to three tinder girls
>suggest coffee/drinks
>all three just stop messaging
1/10 of the girls have agreed, so far in 2 weeks. sick of this bullshit. Too much work, too little gain.
How to filter these kinds of girls?
>going off to college soon
>been working out, running, and cutting
>body looks better than its ever been
>started browsing /fa/ so no longer dress like an autist
>but tfw
>strict parents barely let me hang out with freinds
>as a result never had freinds, went to party's, games, shows etc.
>had a shitty HS life, no activities just came home, smoked, did some drugs occasionally in my room and played vidya, and watched anime, netflix
>even though my body and clothes look better than ever I still lack the social skills to have a cool group of friends
>lmao I thought college would be my chance to bang chicks and have fun
>should I just commute to a different school and get a higher salary when I graduate (this school has a shit social scene because everyones a commuter and is in a shitty town but graduates make good money)
>>37065889
I agree with this.
Everyone who says " lifting didnt help me" always look SHIT.
Seriously never have i seen an asthetic swole guy saying this, its always the fags who dont make gains.
LIFTING DOESNT CURE AUTISM.
LOOKING LIKE A GREEK GOD CURES AUTISM.
>>37063627
Are you me??
I never realized how much I actually liked staying in my cozy clean room doing nothing but shitposting, watching anime, and playing vidya with the AC on high and a heavy blanket wrapped around me,
>>37061519
You did nothing wrong except for not being attractive enough. I call girls cutie all the time and they give me the blushing emoji. That shit gets old literally all girls are the same
>>37064764
Don't show it off, they should know that your fit, but shouldn't know how fucking swole you are until you take your shirt off in her bed,
I feel great about how I look im just shy
confidence in your body is different than talking to girls desu
oh well, at least im focused.
>>37066016
Yeah I get that but what other fucking pics am I supposed to use for fucking tinder? What do these bitches dig nowadays? I'm surely not posing with an infant or a goddamn guitar and I'm also not gonna get a fucking hipster haircut
any advice how to hide muscles and appeal to women on 5 tinder pics?
>>37066108
You don't need to hide it, maybe one shirtless pic at the beach is fine
Have pics of you wearing clothes, out with freinds, actually doing stuff, make it look like there's more to your life than lifting
>>37066108
Get a cut that isn't a buzz cut, and just because a haircut is fashionable and /fa/ likes it doesn't mean it's a hipster, there's a difference between acting alpha and trying to act alpha
>2015+1
>lifting for the girls
>>37061792
>The women who want you strictly for your body are not the kind of women you want.
Are you joking ?
I've seen girls/women lust for and get shy around fit/lean guys all the time.
I'm literally looking for a job just so I can finally got to a gym, get fit and get girls.
I get 100x more attention
>tfw 100×0 is still 0
>>37066147
well now that I think of it I do have a top knot...
>>37066130
I fucking hate group pictures on tinder, only ugly bitches use those to confuse people as who of the people on the pic they actually are... what are people "doing" besides lifting, working, eating, drinking with friends and sleeping? Should I use a goddamn pic of me practising calligraphy?
>>37066223
It shows that you have freinds and a social life and your not a basement dweller that just happens to look better than most basement dwellers, and make your first pic of just you, and unless it's your identical twin nobody's gonna get confused if your in a group in some of your pics
Yes it helps but you do actually need to interact with women to get better with them.
Tinder is the easiest way, if you're attractive and have good pictures, just go on as many dates as possible and look at it as practice, then you'll get social gains.
Don't be too picky at first, seriously, it's just practice and you don't have to talk to the girls again if you really don't want to.
If you're not used to being around girls, you're going to fall on your face. A lot. Every time you fail, though, you learn and get better.
Having girls disrespect you, lie to you, and act like cunts will do wonders for taking them off the pedestal you've placed them on for your whole life.
The things I've learned:
>Never get attached.
>Never take a woman for her word.
>Never get your hopes up.
>Never pay for the first meet up. Confidently split the tab when the time comes.
>Never tell her you're looking for a relationship. Say you're looking for something low pressure but you're open to taking it further with the right person. This makes her have to prove herself to you. You'll be surprised by how many women agree and say they only want something casual. They just want you to say it first so they don't look like a slut
>Smoothness is key and comes from experience and failing with lots of girls.
>When a girl says she's open to something casual, don't suggest meeting up for sex off the bat.
>Never be too eager.
>Never believe her when she says she's honest or not like other girls; she's lying.
>Be okay with the fact that she is talking to/fucking other guys at the same time she's talking to you.
>Once you're friendly with each other, flirt with her. Flattery works, but only if the girl is comfortable with you.
>Realize that it's all fake, all a game, and don't take anything personally if plans get cancelled or they make up excuses. Just say ok, nice talking to you, and move on.
>>37065930
Idk what to do man, I know I'm gonna embarrass myself or just stay in my dorm when I'm not working out or in class
Was skelly, attracted like 2 chiks from school. got jacked. Pussy follows me everywhere i can hear chiks giggle and check me out in secrecy. Made out with a bunch of chiks scince i got jacked. And I got 1 blowjob at a party. 16
>>37066218
Well I mean yea there fun to fuck, but not gf material duh
My muscles haven't helped (that I'm aware) but the confidence has
>tfw find out i dont have much time left where im living
>decide to nut up/go full retard and tell oneitis i'd like to hang out and spend some time with her before i leave because i might not ever see her again
>she agrees and says we'll hang out after finals week
>i completely regret this minutes later
>feel like she only accepted out of pity
To stay somewhat relevant, lifting has given me some confidence since I look 100x better, physically. I've only fallen for this one girl since I began lifting, and I even met her at the gym.
Did I fucking fuck the fuck up because I feel like I have. I feel like I've been needy and beta as fuck.
>>37061432
Nope.
>>37066550
Just hang out with her, even if u fuck up you'll probably never see her again
Back when I was more built and not a skinnyfat unhealthy addict looking I definitely had more and prettier girls give me bedroom eyes and flirt with me, not that I ever turned that into something like actual sex, khv as before. I thought they were just being friendly but now I'm convinced by the sheer difference in quantity and quality compared to now that lifting increased my attractiveness for real. That's all I ever wanted anyways, to feel like I'm worth someones attention. Now you guys don't even remember me. It's so beta and self loathing but honestly I felt better when people considered me the village idiot on here. In real life and on the internet I have become truly anonymous despite my flamboyant attention whoring ways. People steer clear of me and it hurts. At least I still have my family..
>>37063678
Stop drinking
>>37065930
Rush a GOOD frat. Yes, it's paying for friends, but it's worth it when you're this desperate.
>>37061432
Hodgetwins made a pretty good video about this lately
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Xv_EoziN74
>>37063975
>may be moot
>be moot
>moot
Who?
>>37066550
Dude, you got this. It'll make you feel better if you go, rather than not going at all and regretting it for the rest of your life.
>>37066860
Won't they just humiliate me and make me more depressed?
You're missing the point.
Getting in shape can't guarantee you girls, but it does guarantee better sex when you finally do get them.
>>37066372
>Never take a woman for her word.
man this is fucking true to the max. generally i find their emotions or reactions to tell more truth; that is to say what they feel in the moment.
>>37066860
But the frat bros will just bully me, or not let me in because I'm such a loser
>>37061836
I have resting jerk face with the tired eyes, but my face is like an 8. How's your cheekbones and jawline?
And no, my friend is DYEL as fuck. Won't say lanklet because he has a decent frame, but overall not much muscle mass.
Yes it has, but not nearly as much as I'd thought it would.
>>37066372
Screen capped your post my nigga
>>37061432
A little bit. I catch some mirin sometimes and my confidence grew a bit but I'm still an autist when it comes to talking.
>>37067177
>>37067544
Hazing, "bullying", pranks, shit like that is trial by fire. It's not great, but it's a rite of passage, you either survive the bullshit tailored to make you feel shitty and come out not giving a fuck about minor life issues that crushed you before, or you collapse into a pile of fragile snowflakes. It's not great, and it's not supposed to feel great.
Anyways, here's a protip: try to remember a time when somebody else spilled some spaghetti. Can you remember a qt3.14 spilling hers? Can you remember your own? Think about why and try to empathise with other people.
>>37064764
Plot twist: It has nothing to do with your gains, they just all want to fuck refugees now.
>>37067010
What this anon said.
I keep failing to even interact with anyone. Don't be like me. At least you can then say you made an effort.
Lifting gave me too much confidence
I think I'm more attractive than most of the women I meet
>>37061432
In short, no. A longer answer, still not sure if I need more time.
I've been mindful of staying fit, or lean, but never buff/swole for a long time, since i never really engaged a diet and workout. Was probably just slightly above DYEL//lean-fit status. Obviously this is where I'm setting my baseline.
Now that I've actively made an effort in the last couple months, I'm still technically underweight but I've added at least 20 lbs to my build, and I have a better physique and feel slightly better about myself and am performing better athletically than I have before in high school, but not enough to consider myself in the game of getting dates.
Then again I'm more or less a mess about talking to anyone I might feel attracted to, so I'm probably doomed to start. At least I can move my spaghetti.
>>37064764
>2 new girls a month
>bad
>>37065928
well, the solution is actually your problem, instead of asking them out for a drink or smth, why dont you go somewhere where this thing is already happening, girls drinking. If you had the guts to message them on tinder first, you gonna have the guts to talk to them irl too. Good luck Anon !
>>37063723
>gf gets clingy and psycho
>I inform her that I was busy and will not live by my phone when she's not around
>watch subbed animu at her house
>she doesn't like it but whatever
sounds like you need to be the fucking man and not let her walk all over you dood.
>>37063919
>that leg to torso length ratio
your kids are gonna have fucked genes you dumbass.
>>37061432
lifting has ruined my confidence desu because i can't lift heavy due to my spine
now i just look in the mirror and see a skinny faggot who's been lifting for too long and who has seen almost no gains
Kinda. Had some girls ask me to secks them, but I've always spaghettied out. This has happened about 6-8 times to me in the last 5 years.
I just can't get over my anxiety
>>37070513
>he doesn't want his child to be an olympic level swimmer
>before getting fit
>kissless virgin
>after getting fit
>regular virgin
>>37061432
I started to meet more girls because I went to the gym. The exposure is larger but other than that, no.
>Go to a club
>Start dancing
>QT3.14 starts dancing near me, she sort of backs in to start grinding on me, flicks her hair, exposes her neck, gives me the whole come hither eye contact
>she starts grinding on me pretty hard
>tfw hestitate to just pull her in, place my hand on her hip with like a really light, hesitant touch
>pull it away like a second later
>she turns and says something, can't hear her over the music but she's smiling
>I smile and nod, we sort of dance awkwardly for another minute until she leaves
>See her making out with chad 5 minutes later
>tfw I'm constantly being mistaken for chad
Yes. Lifting, combined with fashionable clothes, a decent hair cut & looking after my skin has made me way more attractive to the opposite sex, however due to my fucking autism, all it's really done is given me so many more opportunities to spill spaghetti everywhere. I used to spill spaghetti maybe once or twice a year, now it's every fucking weekend, I don't know why I even bother to keep trying desu :S.
Lifting doesn't cure autism, it just gives you more social opportunities to feel like shit because of your autism.
>>37061432
>Definitely yes.
Back in time I was that nice weird guy. Not ugly but not in shape and not so nice teeth. Had some girls, of course, but having dates was not that easy for me.
Then I fixed teeth and start lifting/running, tanning and dressing nice.
Today is Saturday. After gym I'll meet my gf. At night I'm visiting one girl just for sex. Tomorrow night I'm dating another girl(same neighborhood my gf).
So yes, lifting has changed my sex life. And I'm still that weird guy, but now, good looking.
Lift, diet, fix little aesthetic issues like teeth, eyebrows, etc.... Be confident. Rule the world, broh.
>>37061432
Yes it has, but not because they were impressed in my abs. Its funny, all my success with women suddenly came during winter when i was always wearing hoodies.
It was because, knowing i look good naked, i had gained enough confidence to just start conversations with random girls at uni/in the street/ at partys. Some of them were into me.
A while ago i got high and thought about how werd it is that i had to change my diet and start lifting to get grills, when in all this time i wasted crying about being a virgin i couldve just walked up to grills, talk to them and then have sex with some of them.
The human mind is weird. Even though they couldnt see my abs, the helped me so much.
>17 years old
>got my 1st car
>broke up with gf recently but still go with her, my bro and one of her friends to a theme park a 3 hour drive away
>when we're there I try being flirty (she had been implying for weeks that we were getting back together)
>she gives me a disgusted look, then laughs in my face, tells me we are over and she likes someone else
>her friend laughs and asks if I'm gonna cry
>after we get off the ride I say me & bro are going for food we will meet up later
>go back to car and drive home, leaving the two girls there
>mfw ignoring furious phone calls from her that evening
>>37070966
kek good job man
>>37070966
TOPKEK nice done anon
I once had this chick wanting to spend a night at my place sooo bad i thought i had gotten rich overnight or wtf
Turned out she just flirted with me to get a free room.
I invited her over, and just as she called me in front of my house i told her that forgot about her, have someone else over right now and watched her rage.
>>37061654
fuck if this is the natty limit for me i'd be fairly happy.
>>37070966
>be 19 years old
>coming home from college
>meet this 17 year old chick
>fall in love hard, but she has a bf
>decide to steal her from him
>make out with her one day
>next day she tells me she decided to stay with her bf, sorry anon :)
>send all of her snapchats i saved & several voicemessages she sent on whatsapp to her bf on facebook
>she shows up at my familys house in tears and ver aggressiv, my mother calls me on my mobile and lets her speak, i just fucking laugh at her and tell her not to fuck around with me anymore cause thats what happens
>>37061432
this is a retarded question. obviously making yourself look better will get you laid.
>>37065991
sounds cosy senpai
>>37071035
Doing god's work anon
>>37068555
Thanks thats all i wanted to know.
I feared your friend was jacked and still didnt get girls, because im the exact opposite.
Chin and jaw are normal, nothing special really.
>>37071035
uhm, you are a fucking asshole and i would have beaten the shit out of you.
YOu are a piece of shit, you have done nothing good and there is nothing to be proud of.
>>37071137
>Having love for these hoes
>making it
You know the drill
>>37071035
Damn senpai
She got it coming desu
what did ur mum say?
>>37061482
Dude wtf is coccoon mode.. how cringe are you
How the FUCK do you do it at a bar? Ever girl is cold as all hell and once I talk to them, it turns into an interview.
For OP, getting fit helped me a lot on tinder. Tons of dates and matches.
>>37071225
focusing on lifting, diet and sleep 24/7 and forget about anything else.
>>37065629
She has crazy eyes.
>>37065375
if you want to sleep with bulbasaur
>>37071049
It is breh
>>37061432
You can't lift autism away, but being jacked and autistic is better than being ugly/skelly and autistic.
Also if you do have more confidence in yourself talking to girls does get easier.
>>37063569
>Just make small talk bro!
>It's easy as fuck bro!
>>37071370
>after cocoon mode you will be...
>autistic
>lonely
>with big muscles and fluency in japanese
sounds like a plan
>>37064764
>2 girls a month.
>bad
I'm married and you get laid more than I. Fuck you.
>>37071846
I can confirm this is what actually happends
>>37071035
If this is not false you're fucking asshole. I would beat the shit out of you in front of your mom.
>>37061432
I just want to fuck trappy tb.h
I'm only homo for him
>>37061604
>tfw all 4 apply
I can change the last two but I scratched my pimples when I was 15 so now I've got scars and my genes stopped inches from me becoming albino. It's either Marshmallow Man or mr. Crabs.
How do you small talk with a girl without it turning into an interview of you asking her questions and she responding?
>>37063535
lmao so mad kys dumb fag lol
>>37061792
Next time try literally fucking 7 days a week 3 times a day, this way she literally won't have any time or energy to cheat.
>>37061432
I guess it could help: if you have a big dick and can last long you can present yourself as a perfect fucking machine and if you really believe in that some girls will surely bite.
For me, at the moment I have too many flaws that I consider critical and whenever I'm thinking about approaching a girl i feel like a scam artist and chicken out.
I was really skinny with some muscle no fat from doing mma growing up but what changed for me was going to Europe with a bunch of other students when I was 17 and the cute girls and cool kids adopted me into their group. I got back from that trip and just started talking to girls 1 on 1 and it was much easier. Most girls seemed interested in talking to me and one day a girl gave me her number and I said "Alright your going to be my booty call now" and she said ok let's do it. I was stunned because I've never said that before and was still a virgin but she snuck in a few days later and it was good I learned a lot from her and tried really hard to be good at sex and I think it went well. By the time I turned 22 I had sex with 44 girls. I was skinny with good muscle definition from the start and have been working out off and on since 15 but it definitely helps with my depression and in the end not being depressed makes you more fun to be around.
>>37061432
yes, it gave me more confidence and that helped attract a few dates. Then I got a gf for awhile as I got fitter. After that ended girls now approach me which is really kind of an odd feeling since it never really happened before.
>>37061432
>tfw 200 word blackboard response due by 11:59 tonight
>tfw can't formulate a coherent thought on MS word to copy and paste into blackboard
>>37072915
What's that got to do with girls?
Also,
>tfw only got 16/40 for one of my essays for uni
Stupid feminist slut of a lecturer desu
>>37066372
solid advice!
>>37072503
This so much
Yeah
>be fat
>stop being fat and get fit
>6'3, broad frame and handsome face so now get female attention
>lost virginity in a threesome
>date some other girl
>get a gf
I've gotten away with so much bullshit for being fit and good looking
soon my gf will hate me
>>37061445
Exactly fucking this. I got some good face gains too. And losing some weight helped me dress better because clothes fit. Lost my virginity a few months back. Dating another girl right now.
>>37064861
hahaha faggot
>>37072459
>him
>>37061432
Not really.
I've gotten compliments on how I look bigger and more manly. I was a literal auschwitz with bad acne. Two years later I've done accutane for the skin, buffed up (people have especially noticed my traps thank you based power cleans and deadlifts) and I also started wearing glasses that really fit and FRAME my face properly.
Haven't gotten laid yet though but at least I know I look better than I did. As a result I'm more confident and comfortable around other people so hopefully it'll happen one of these days.
>>37075124
6/10 for the effort
>>37061757
>that picture
Getting a girlfriend is all about how your face looks.
Unless you're on steroids or have incredibly good genetics your "physique" is not going to get noticed.
Girls like at my arms a lot at are a bit handsy round my triceps and shoulders, but I hve received zero compliments and zero pussy for my efforts.
I do think I look much mcuh better now though.
>>37075273
haha, didn't even try to make a "face, frame, height" bait
if the shoe fits, I guess
No, I feel better about myself and I get some positive comments regarding my looks from both men and women but I can't be assed to look for one.
Ironically I was making better social gains before I started working out. I don't feel any drive to actually date someone anymore.
>>37072503
> Went on a date with a grill (was my first date- at 22)
> she has nohobbies or interests to talk about
> it boils down to me asking (generic) questions and her answering
> she never asks me back, I don't start talking about myself without being asked becuase of I'm not and self-centered jerk
> at the end she tells me she feels like she did all the talking and she didn't learn anything about me
WTF? I also want to know the answer fr your question.
>sitting at dinner table with friends from school while on vacation
>talking about a play we saw
>roommate says, "yeah the main character was wearing the same kind of underwear as anon"
>anonette #1 says, "you looked at anon in his underwear?"
>roommate replies, "yeah its kind of hard not to, he's jacked."
>everyone starts laughing except for my onetits who is sitting across the table smiling at her plate
FUCKING ACKNOWLEDGE MEEEEEEE
>>37076628
Maybe stop referring to her as your onetits first you jerk
>>37076628
She wants the d too bad to laugh about it
any brit bro here, i have yet to see a girl hitting on a guy here (obviously not drunk) or even giving him the look
so do brit girls tend to not hit on guys or what's going on here ?
>>37065930
Do you live in the mid Atlantic? I know exactly what school you're talking about. Go to the school with the better social scene
>>37077712
NJ :/
I'll be making a fuckton of money if I graduate njit
I wish I did good enough to get into Rutgers new Brunswick
Getting fit has boosted my confidence. Going on /fit/ has abolished all of that and made me insecure for being 5'7.
>>37071370
Dude it's fucking cringe as fuck. Holy shit. Autists always have to take self improvement and make it embarrassing and take it too far. Stop being a loser and reading shit like this dude. Thing with 4chan is if you don't have self confidence or even an IQ above 20 you will believe in shit like this and actually do it. I feel sorry for you.
>>37077876
I would go Rutgers if possible. What's your major because engineering at both schools are good
>>37077712
You Stockton pleb
>Stockton alumni here, what a waste
>>37061432
No because men prefer chubby chicks to muscular ones. Ex bf used to bitch because I "stopped being soft".
I'm giving up on men and will instead live my life as a ripped spinster. It'll be great bruhs
>>37078052
I didn't get into Rutgers tho
>>37073079
who cares m8 it's alright. you won't remember that shit 1 year from today. fuck the lecturer
>>37061585
ABORT
the last mire i had was some fat girl 3/10 who was being hit by another desperate fag
she did the common move of touching your delts and saying lame jokes just to keep touching you
so yes, it gets you girls, but fat annoying ones
>18
>in last 2 months of HS
>Started lifting last summer, gotten a lot more confidence
>Girls actually pay attention to me, smile at me and shit now
>Hugless Kissless virgin
>Uninterested in casual sex (religious reasons, etc.)
Is it worth trying to get a gf in these last two months? Everybody is heading off to different Unis and Colleges next year, so getting with a girl younger than me is my only real option, almost all the girls in my grade are whores, and the one I'm enamored with lives far away and is going to school even further away. Should I approach some cute freshman or sophomore girls, or should I wait until next year?
>>37072911
How old are you?
>>37061432
Jury is still out on that.
It's helped me feel more human at least - back when I was 400 pounds I was invisible to everyone but bullies until I became the lovable class clown.
Down to 259 now - and what's weird is that the girls who used to joke around with me and smile have gone dead-silent and cold. We'll see how it goes 60 pounds from now.
Why bother when its all about
HEIGHT
FACE
FRAME
and PENIS SIZE?
>>37070724
Scoliosis?
Dat overhead press bruh...
