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Not even baiting, just want to hear, why the fuck exactly are you guys not vegan?
Cause most likely, its ignorant shit
Come with it *popcorn*
>>37039539
I'm a fucking vegan myself and you should fucking off yourself.
Why do you even fucking care? who the fuck do you think fucking cares?
Meat, dairy, all that non vegan shit, this shit is fucking delicious, dont care what you say.
Food is the next great pleasure in life after sex, some people dont want to give that up, and its fucking fine, animals are fucking animals and they are not equal to humans in every way, killing them is fine, and if someone wants to trade their pleasure of taste to the pleasure of health and well being, that's their decision and that does not put them over others.
faggot.
>>37039667
Rekt
/thread
>>37039667
so, literally HAES?
>>37039539
Threadly reminder that there's no logical reason to be vegan.
>anon ur b8ing hurr durr
1) Despite their flaws animal products excel in certain nutritional areas, namely protein and fat, and no plant product will match that. With that being said, the logical conclusion is that as the most efficient sources of these macro nutrients they should be a part of your diet. The only reason to be vegan is if you really like animals in which case more power to you, but that is emotional and cannot be applied to everyone
AIcan already hear you faggots starting to say
>but meat is bad for you
2) Eat less meat then. Any argued benefit of a vegan diet can be applied just as easily to an omnivorous diet. Red meat is bad? Eat less. Soy beans are good? Eat more. There is no logical reason to cut animal products ENTIRELY from your diet. You are an adult. Adults can and should operate in moderation. Find the middle ground and craft a better diet from there. Only a fool codes himself off to available options on life. It's childish, silly, extreme, and obnoxious to eliminate essentially two thirds of all available food options so you can spout off about your superiority complex.
TL;DR Vegans are children who are incapable of acting in moderation and thus find their only option is to do the dietary equivalent of running away from home and then thinking they're cool for it
>>37039709
what?
>>37039539
Because fuck you, I love eating animal corpses.
Deal with it.
i like meat
so fuck you
My uncle is Vegan. He's a gay. Real talk.
>>37039740
Even minimal consumption of animal products causes health risks you cannot deny that.
>>37039804
There's minimal health risks involved with doing anything on your life, just pick your poison. Mine as it so happens is delicious and contains at least 3 preoteins
>>37039804
The longest lived populations in the world eat a primarily plant based diet but still indulge in animal products.
>>37039804
> implying regular exercise and not eating like a retard doesn't completely mitigate those health risks
Tried it for 2 weeks.
Felt dizzy after day 5.
Was hospitalized for a nutrient deficiency.
never again.
>>37039856
I'm referring a habitual occasional consumption, if you consume milk/dairy/eggs more often than once every 8 (+- 2 days dont remember the graph cited by a research) you are still in for dangerous effects.
>>37039874
Sedentary vegans have healthier cardiovascular health than animal product consuming marathon runners.
im looking for a citation right now.
>>37039774
>>37039775
3dgy as fukc
>>37039844
>3 preoteins
mah nigga
>>37039747
>and if someone wants to trade their pleasure of taste to the pleasure of health and well being, that's their decision and that does not put them over others.
literally fat acceptance
>>37039920
>you can still run marathons eating meat
Sounds like their cardiovascular systems are healthy enough to me
>>37039539
>it tastes disgusting
>it won't fit my macros
>it's expensive as fuck
You can only fix two out of these three eating a vegan diet. Eating chicken, fish and eggs fixes all of them.
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>>37039950
In a reasonable range of course.
>>37039958
I don't know why did i expect a normal debate on this dumbfuck board, no one dies instantly from a messed up nutrition.
a lot of long distance runners literally abuse antibiotics and painkillers because their knees/shins/ankles are fucked up
>but they can run a hundred kilometers in one go their body is surely in tip top shape.
>>37039950
(Not the anon you're responding to)
I see your point but I feel like the HAES version would be
> the pleasure of health and the pleasure of taste are in no way related and you are a white male cishet rapist shitlord if you and your well cited evidence says otherwise
>>37039920
m8 you better have a citation for that.
Cause that is one extraordinary claim.
>>37039889
W-why do you care if I poison myself?
You're not my friend... I don't even know you!
God I'm so lonely
>>37039950
Fat acceptance denies the link between over eating and obesity. What you're looking for is Paleo.
>>37039539
meat tastes good
>>37039539
Veganism raped my mother and killed my father
>>37039804
I can deny that.
I'm doing it right now.
>>37040034
We weren't talking about their ankles and joints. Their hearts still seem to manage, especially powering through pain med abuse? Under those conditions they're probably better than normal!
In serious refutation, if as you've claimed soy beans can allow me on my bulk to "out-heart-health" a professional endurance athlete than maybe I'll look into a primarily vegan diet one day IF cardiovascular health becomes my focus. Since it's not my main concern though (and as my shitpost says you can still have great cardiovascular health on an omnivore diet) I'll continue to primarily eat animal products and eat vegan foods to supplement them because I'm not an extremist retard who gives up on flank steak and parmigiano (not together) because one study said Kale gives your dick super powers. Even if it turns out that it does, the LOGICAL solution is to ADD KALE not REMOVE HALF YOUR DIET
>>37039667
Seriously. If you're doing it because you think it will help you avoid death or because you feel bad for farm animals then fine. No one cares. But stop trying to push it on other people and acting like you aren't
>>37040053
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17518696
im
>>37040166
Why does it make you so uncomfortable?
>>37040181
> long term low-calorie low-protein vegan diet and endurance exercise
holy confounding factors batman
>>37039667
O SNAP
>>37040163
vegans are not removing animal products from their diets because they think that plant based foods are better.
we remove them from our diet because animal products have very adverse effects on our health.
>>37040166
First of all, it will help me delay my death, and make my living happier.
second of all, if i wasnt clear by now, who the fuck cares, eat meat, its fucking fun.
>>37040030
>fixed
>>37040181
This doesn't seem to back up your claim. All it suggests is
>People eating a healthy diet or engaging in cardiovascular exercise consuming mc donalds were healthier than sedentary people consuming mc donalds
Well no shit.
>>37040277
Sue your english teacher.
>>37039539
>itt leaf eaters
>>37039539
> The argument of all vegan "facts"
> correlary data
Oh but I took my very first science course and correlation does not equal causation.
If you took the correlary argument, alcohol, sugar, fat, and oil would also be completely removed from our diets.
BUT THEY ARE GOOD IN SMALL DOSES YOU FUCKIN IDIOT.
I like meat.
>>37040277
I think his point was that the sedentary vegan group were better than the marathon runners
I simply do not care enough not to eat meat. Not to say I don't care at all about the environment or animals. For example I mainly buy domestic meat and I don't eat anything marked as halal butchered.
What I don't understand is all these vegans who boycott meat for environmental and humanistic reasons, yet still go on vacations far away and order materialistic items built buy some six year old in bangladesh. That's far worse for the environment and arguably immoral.
>>37040181
>>37040277
Seriously. To say that vegan is healthy, they would have to compare their sample to an identical sample, only non-vegan. Do you know how science works?
>>37040304
>>37040333
The problem is "Western diet" isn't clearly defined. For all we know those people could've been eating fast food for their entire diet. And that is a real possibility, since many westerners do that.
It's not really fair to compare a Vegan diet optimized for health to a meat eating diet comprised of MickyD's.
>>37040532
shit breh I was on nofap
>>37039926
no i mean like that's my actual reason
with an added fuck you because your high horse is silly
>>37040532
I'm so hungry right now.
>Have vegetarian friend
>Likes to eat her pasta with parmezan regano type cheese
>Tell her parmezan isn't vegetarian, it's made with cow calf stomach enzymes.
>Upset with me that I told her the truth about her favourite pasta additive
>mfw
>>37039667
I am fucking a vegan and I want to kill myself
>>37040532
It's...beautiful.
>>37040532
BREHS
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>>37040532
i need to eat this
>>37039539
Because meat is tasty
/thread
>>37040532
>tfw vegitarian but love meat
I wish I was one of those cunts that didn't like the taste of meat. Would make this shit a lot easier.
>>37039539
Because I don't choose meals according to someone else's feels.
>going vegan for health reasons
kek, like you faggots even care about your health. you guys down shakes, preworkouts, multivitamins, supplements, and cycle (a few of you).
I don't eat any animal products for a couple of reasons, it's cheaper and it's not as harsh for the environment. That's it mayne, it's that simple.
Humans are designed (im not a creationist) to eat meat and vegatables
>>37040532
>would greedily eat everything and use the grease on my hands as lube to jack off in such an epic way that it gets posted on Wikipedia
